Is this all we expect from COD Zombies?

After seeing lots of praise for the final MWZ mission, I share an alternative view on the state of COD zombies as we leave MWZ.
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[@omarm3077]

We got English teacher roasting MWZ before GTA 6

[@zjsz4954]

An* english teacher

[@AhriisaShrimp]

This KZbinr obviously is a fan of the zombies mode in any COD

[@gaelfranco8411]

I made it. Playing the launch maps on bo4 today feels sad. Theyre great maps, but man, to think the mode was like that a couple of years ago makes the current games feel so empty and boring. Rewatching the intro cinematic for Classified and remembering how everyone just hated and a lot of people still hates that game... idk i feel like we owe the bo4 developers a huge apologie.

[@koshori3495]

The children yearn for destiny style raid mechanics

[@jonc1920]

I made it. I appreciate your honest opinion, you made some good points I mostly agree with. It was an interesting question, just what does Al Mazrah have to do with the story? It feels like revelations, cool concept reusing the assets anyway. But much of the content felt intentionally stretched out in MWZ, as if it were only designed for a few dlc seasons. Certainly a brand of this caliber can deliver richer content. I’m excited for BO6 though, and hope they bring it this time.

[@jaz97]

I made it!! I would be curious to see if the Twitter folks and other streamers that hyped MWZ, what they said about BO4 zombies? Because I remember in the zombies community, there was a lot of hate on BO4. I loved it and also feel that was the last creative zombies mode we had. Maybe due to Jason B leaving, I dunno?? I gave up on MWZ back in January, I haven't played it since. I laughed at the story equal to12-14 year old boys writing creativeness 😆

[@dacgringo3229]

I made it. Was watching a Big Zombie youtuber earlier (making content) and then said, mid stream, I can't be bother to test this aspect out because I'm not really bothered about this game.

[@NicEphesians611]

I made it. MWZ was alright, great for leveling up weapons, but the lack of putting content into this mode was pretty frustrating.

[@billymcintosh6384]

Soon as I heard say black ops 4 zombies was ur favourite I turned off the video

[@GeekyPastimes]

Yeah screw people with different opinions right? That's how to grow the zombies community!

[@gaelfranco8411]

@@billymcintosh6384 Bo4 is the peak of zombies mode, cry about it

[@Maexs115]

Chad video

[@archieb4956]

I made it l, I agree you you GP I'm fed up with how zombies is going coldwar was my first zombies and for me my most favourite since then just feels like they dont care anymore just put zombies in the game to sell it. The orbs on the final boss just reminds me of the large tempest EE from coldwar

[@MiniorDebry]

I made it. I really wish FPS boss design would evolve as much as MMO boss design has in recent years, Im just tired of bosses that are so bare bone on mechanica at this point. I know Ive been super spoiled on boss design frok FF14 sadly, but I would love if even half the effort of boss fight design was ever put into these zombie bosses, genuinely look up what some of the Savage mode raids have a full team do and think about how people figured out how to do these mechanics before guides. They basically their own little puzzles ontop of the fight, often with full on transformations mid fight that change the boss, its attacks, the arena you fight in, and even the music... I just want something that comes close to the itch that game scratches in an FPS.

[@GeekyPastimes]

Yeah, that's why I made the comparison to Destiny. I know it's a bit of an mmo style game but I'm sure other FPS games could learn a thing or two from having complex boss fights

[@lewis-mindscrambler987]

I made it. I don't buy battlepasses or store items anymore. Just the base game to play with friends.

[@holmesphillip]

Made it! I got sick of the repetition after a couple seasons, never went back. Honestly, I will shelve the Call of Duty franchise from my rotation.

[@GeekyPastimes]

Yeah increasingly I only really play for the updates then go do something else

[@yarghhargh9345]

the answer is sadly a resounding yes

[@jonaswest6993]

I made it and played mwz during the first public access and then never again

[@Elkatook666]

go and watch that games com reveal again, just for the first 15 seconds they coudnt even be bothered to render proper character models the first character in the back of the truck at the 11s mark if twitching like a crack head with withdrawal ridiculous, 11s into a reveal im already dis interested!

[@Radneykh]

lol was that a grav lift from halo?!???

[@GeekyPastimes]

The good old man cannon

[@jamesfilek4574]

Made it.

[@jesseveazey230]

It’s like a military Fortnite

[@TheLegend-qj7wh]

Black Ops 3 & 4 was peak Zombies. Because of Jason Blundell. Zombies is dead now.

[@ih8mondays57]

Dude no offense but if you think the story sucks and haven’t enjoyed the game in 6 years it might be time to move on to something else. Is MWZ the best mode ever made? No. But as a side mode spinoff while waiting for a real round based experience it’s totally serviceable. So many of your critiques here are unfair and based on personal opinions. Many of them come from a lack of knowledge on the mode and characters because you didn’t care for the majority of the game. The boss is good, do you think everyone else is lying about liking it? Is that more likely than you just falling out of love with a thing after years and years? You just gotta move on man

[@GeekyPastimes]

I don't think I said I haven't enjoyed the game in 6 years, I only started making content on COD 4 years ago and have obviously played thousands of hours since then, I just don't think a lot of the zombies mode is very good. The whole point of this video is that it seems the zombies community has incredibly low standards, as someone that plays a lot of games, its crazy to me what they get away with. The boss is a big giant 'off the map' enemy with glowing weak points. That's been made fun of in other games for over a decade now, but here people think it's great because the rest of the mode has been so bad. I don't think I fell out of love with a thing, I only seriously started playing zombies in Cold War, the map where I got worlds first was my first time trying a new map on release. I just don't think the mode has ever been great, there were some maps (Moon, DE, Shadows of Evil, IX) where I think they started moving in a cool direction, but now they've gone back to this minimum effort. I think the reason it's never got much better is because there's a small vocal fan base who lap up the most basic content because it's all they have and they don't play other games to realise how much better gaming can be.

[@ih8mondays57]

​@@GeekyPastimes My apologies, you said you think it has been downhill since BO4 so that's how I got the 6 year metric. I think maybe the "low standards" you are seeing is more so people encouraging something that you yourself admitted is an improvement. You may be biased against it, but as someone else who plays a lot of games, I had an absolute blast flying around on jump pads shooting the big cosmic entity to get a cutscene that builds up Liberty Falls. Since you started playing during Cold War, you may be lacking some context for zombies. Typically this is a mode that comes out every 3 years, and there have been conditions outside of the devs control preventing that in the latest installments. BO4 got ditched early because of poor reception (was a MESS at launch) and the need to work on Cold War after SHG fell apart. As a result Cold War had a shorter dev cycle, cut even shorter by the need to work on Vanguard and had to deal with the pandemic. MWZ launched in a state that many were pleasantly surprised to enjoy, but the lack of content was simply due to Treyarch moving on to BO6 and Sledgehammer taking the reigns. I think that rather than criticizing people for enjoying the current content it is better to show support of the improvements as we move into a new game that *finally* has the typical dev cycle. I also want to address your critiques of reusing locales. Firstly, this has simply always been a thing. Five, Ascension, Verruckt, even aspects of Gorod are blatantly taken from MP or Campaign and have no issue. BO4 was the first to fully branch off of this and it is likely a large reason the game was a mess. Making fully new assets to match a locale isn't really viable in a mode that to be blunt doesn't move copies like MP does and isn't easy to monetize. I can easily concede that Firebase was a rough map, but Die Maschine is entirely new, Mauer uses the same street layout as a brief segment of the campaign, but can you really be mad about the use of Berlin in a Cold War era game on a map about a secret Nazi army? It's totally fitting. As for Forsaken, people spent the entire year BEGGING for that exact facility to be a zombies map only to complain when they got it. I think its important to remember that at the end of the day MWZ is a spinoff mode that offered a vastly different zombies experience from the typical round based and was objectively a vast improvement over something like Vanguard that did not justify it's existence at all. It had an ending that most people found satisfying, and I don't understand why it's a bad thing that people are enjoying it. You can say that you think its lowering the standards, but compared to what has been happening the past few years it's certainly an improvement. Regardless, BO6 is looking very positive with unique locations, a main crew, supposedly harder easter eggs, etc., and as the first real zombies experience since Cold War, and the first to get a full dev cycle since BO3, I think its important to give that a chance and provide positive feedback rather than bashing people for enjoying something that you do not.

[@TheSilentgiant100]

MWZ was terrible.

[@zjsz4954]

MWZ was and is fun if you do a couple runs a week nothing more

[@guystokesable]

Exactly, it's totally addictive, but doing the s4 stuff to get schematic for the berret to do the s5 stuff is just like, nah fam

[@cadeconnors9637]

I’m sorry but mw zombies is not treyarch game the last one we have is black ops 4 and it have a lot and some good stuff and anyone said no Cold War is the last one no treyarch need to come In and save it for only for 2 years for a 2 year game 4 map that good for a 2 year game . And I hate it to but people not want new things people want old things to say and come back

[@lalter_]

can't say this is trash but praise cold war and look forward to bo6 with a straight face

[@GeekyPastimes]

I'm not allowed to have enjoyed Cold War and be excited for something new but not enjoyed MWZ? I'm so sorry.

[@Pnut123e4]

CoD going to shit overall...Had unique change to run with Dmz and Zombies but they ruined both.. Well done.

[@tbone6826]

I'm clicking off the video now but I just wanted to mention how unbelievably hypocritical it is to shame and bash the game while simultaneously playing the most recent update less than 24 hours after release is crazy work.

[@chrisj1265]

You gotta play it to see if it sucks

[@lalter_]

wait until this guy learns about how game reviews work