Is this game still epic in 2023? GSL Finals 2012 - MVP vs Squirtle - StarCraft 2

[@aabrightlove]

Your face in the thumbnail frightens me on a level I do not clearly understand, Winter

[@andrewrose6380]

I would love to see a pro player now be transported to the past to play in one of these tournaments. Hearing the casters reaction to every player getting steamrolled by a medivac drop from Byun

[@lagg1e]

One Byun would change the history of patchnotes.

[@wuschu5563]

That would be amazing. Altough, i would more like just a good master's player and see how the game understanding changes everything. All of the tricks that now are standard, but then were revolutionary. "just block the ramp bro", the maco-racks and many more

[@echostarling84]

Ah yes, time to sit in Grandpa Winter's lap and listen to old stories of championships long since past. I'm ready Grandpa

[@WinterStarcraft]

Honestly, I feel this game/series held up over time (a lot more than the disastrous 2011 Blizzcon Finals of Nestea vs MVP lol). What series/game from Wings of Liberty/Heart of the Swarm do you remember most strongly? The real nostalgia is hearing the Korean casters/audience nearly drowning out Tastosis over the cast 😂

[@lucamckenn5932]

I really liked that one moment. We all know it ... I wasn't there. You're right though, it does hold up. Dota 2 had a really bad couple world finals, like I can not believe how badly aged and anti climactic they are.

[@Kashakunaki]

There's a game I've been trying to find for a long time that I thought was incredible. It was TvP, it's older (maybe Heart of the Swarm), it was a tournament set (I don't remember the players), and it was on a map with exposed mineral lines on high ground. The Terran had a disgusting contain and it looked like the Protoss was 100% dead, but he kept sneaking out of the base with a warp prism and storming dropping those exposed mineral lines. It was great and if anyone knows the game from such a weak description please tell me.

[@leviticus8310]

I remember an extremely old game on Metalopolis where Spanishiwa leapfrogged spine crawlers across the map, but I can't find the game T.T

[@1ntelligentDiscourse]

MMA vs DRG 2011 Blizzard Cup Finals Game 7 on Shakuras Plateau is still my favorite game

[@joshgoulash4889]

Kiwikaki vs Stephano

[@arandomperson8336]

I've never seen this game before. But I was never into esports, I just like Winter's casting. Also when this game was played I was a senior in college and was a bit preoccupied! "Yamado cannon", "Zel-ot", this guy is a meme machine xD

[@Rws4Life]

Between Yamoto, angry person screaming into their phone in the background and too much confetti (and losing your cursor), this was an amazing blast to the past Hope to see more of the past in the future! Love your commentary, Winter :)

[@eskurian8565]

You think Yamoto is bad, Artosis has been saying Layer instead of Lair to this day. :p

[@LifeCodeGame]

The epic battles between MVP and Squirtle show why StarCraft 2 is still one of the greatest esports of all time!

[@CasualCosta]

"What's a Yamoto?" "Nothing! What's the Yamoto with you?"

[@kmurphy0620]

Endless POOGERS from Tastetosis was hilarious.

[@ShorePlain]

I did indeed check my quality settings right before you mentioned it. Surreal 2012 moment.

[@xJupy]

game 7 proxy rax is the most chad moment in sc2 history

[@Gredddfe]

As you said it's just like watching diamond players, except on a weird custom map with half the game disabled.

[@RYXPfan]

Winter's casting of the casting is actually more entertaining than I expected once the fighting started xd

[@ManDuderGuy]

I forgot about island bases. Man we need more stupid stuff nowadays.

[@lukesdewhurst]

Islands bases are pointless though. They too hard to colonise and once a terran does they are impossible for Protoss to destroy... apparently

[@ManDuderGuy]

@@lukesdewhurst Well I did say it was stupid ;p

[@lukesdewhurst]

@@ManDuderGuy haha just quoting the casters

[@Chauzuvoy]

@@lukesdewhurst I wouldn't say impossible. You can just make a mother ship, then recall a quarter of your army to the island and leave it there forever!

[@Manadar123]

Protoss now got Tempests. Easy way to handle island bases now.

[@Burred11]

I love that the observer is clicking on (specifically terran) buildings that are upgrading and just spam clicking on the upgrade for no reason

[@mechaman7818]

Whenever I think of WoL, I think of the Jinro laugh. That or Naniwa's walk after the DRG "handshake". Peak Starcraft was peak Starcraft.

[@TheAmazingCowpig]

You know that poll earlier asking what series we want more videos of? This sorta-ish counts as pro-casting, but I'd love way more pre-LotV games now that I think of it. We need more old SC2!

[@Ole_Rasmussen]

"Consummate the win" 😭 Thank you Winter, MVP was my oshi even until several years after he left the scene and Maru made himself worthy, and this series is what I remember the most about his reign

[@FinoClips]

Awesome! I love this retrospectives. Makes me looks like a Grand Master in comparison jajsjs

[@d.l.3807]

Fin = maybe better known as ForGG. You should search for a short clip of ForGG vs Stephano. That clip is a classic.

[@lobster838]

It's cool to see players who are still around, like Maru, Gumiho, and to some extent Parting

[@vanyel_etc8695]

i have a similar experience with rocket league, RLCS season 2 was my first real introduction to esports and watching flipside demolish for the entirety of sunday while in the lower bracket was insane. Thank you for sharing these amazing games and for supporting esports. You're one of the reasons that starcraft grows to this day Winter

[@perniciousthought9173]

Its insanse how these players were the best at the time and now ~10 years later, top pros like Byun, Serralm, Maru, or others would just STOMP them

[@FinoClips]

So painful to watch. All he needed to do was sending an Adept to the other base, and he could have ravaged the whole SCV line

[@vags1234]

@@FinoClips Adepts didn't exist...

[@pmenown]

Idra being in a winning position and not realising Huks colossus were all hallucinations was pretty memberable

[@Daniel-yy3ty]

Nah it's not nostalgia, it's just that we were used to it and what we had before was worse... I have a 120p movie somewhere and I remember understanding what was going on in there 🤣

[@WolfGangDealers]

Man, what a blast to the past. I never really partook in watching the eSports scene for WoL or HotS, but its good to see what it was like back then.

[@michaelknapp677]

I thought "man, I know it's been a while since I've watched winter but has it really been that long?"

[@gushlergushler]

This was a really really impressive thumbnail.

[@elbarto9356]

I'm really loving this series, seeing how much the game has changed.

[@lamasticot3885]

1:34 correct, i was checking the quality settings while you said this haha

[@joshuasmith5289]

Love this winter. Keep revisiting the old games.

[@Helix5370]

What a trip down memory lane. That was a fun watch

[@12crenshaw]

Proxy double rax is a panicle of terran's strategic capabilities through SC2 history that remains the definition of terran gameplay

[@IsaacFNghost]

I remember playing the game on one monitor and looking up strategies while watching live pro matches between like idra and Huk on my other monitor and talking in the chat lol … man I miss those days when the game was HUGE

[@wilshireanasurimbor3068]

Well I'm just glad games start faster than this now. And also Winter, your casting is much better than those two commentating.

[@elijahgilbert6620]

LOL! I literally did check my quality like 2 minutes before winter called me out for it

[@cabobs2000]

Wow you can see their supply on this recording

[@dustinyager11]

the mother ship popped out of the 3 O-Clock base. the moment it popped and started moving toward the battle no the observer didn't know it was there. it snuck up on EVERYONE

[@johnnguyen6224]

ah, so this is where Bronze League Heroes's strategy guide came from.

[@oddwolf4601]

I am glad LotV turned out like it did. If this game still was like WoL or even HotS...

[@dahveedperez4987]

"I'm sure we'll never see another Terran dominate like this again" -Winter FUCKING LMAO !

[@MrCreed145]

I just miss infested terran. Make infesters great again.

[@petercriscuola]

The golden age of sc2!! So epic!

[@JollyGreenWizard]

If you're going to keep doing these throwback games, I'd love to see a dramatic match involving BCs right after the patch that have them tactical jump.

[@leerollins7555]

"THE GREATEST MOMENT IN STARCRAFT 2 HISTORY"

[@vox5505]

Watching this is so validating to a younger me trying to ladder in 2010 as Zerg. Looking back with 15 years of changes to compare to, yeah the entire game WAS unwittingly designed from the ground up for Terran to win every game. Every time Terran lost it genuinely felt like a bug,,, because it almost was. How wonderful we have it now...... Where they're still broken and every match takes 45 minutes because we just buffed everything else in the game to avoid having to listen to the unparalelled maelstrom of baby tears that is Terrans when they get nerfed.

[@lukesdewhurst]

His mouth was open so far in that last game, clear sign of victory

[@healingroot365]

More of these please.

[@IsaacFNghost]

It’s crazy to see how little multi tasking there is with drops and stuff from the past lol 😂 nowadays there’s 4 drops happening at once while the main army pushes while the opponent pushes with their main army lol

[@Tang0Fox1]

This historic review was awesome.

[@lumburgapalooza]

I thought it would make me feel old to calculate how young I was when this game was played and that I would get a chuckle out of it. Instead I realized that even then I was well into adulthood and I did feel old but I did not chuckle about it.

[@Chauzuvoy]

If you really want to share the WoL experience you need to find a game where one player just gets 4-gated and just up and dies. I'm loving these nostalgia trips.

[@dakotasummers]

Thanks Winter!

[@Dwarfgrinder]

Have you covered anything with Nestea?

[@DrewMiller1]

I really wish SC2 let you zoom out more. We’re not playing in 720p anymore. I watch Winter cast and I can see so much, then I play a game and it’s disappointing because I can’t fit the action on my screen.

[@ЯрославПятницкий-к5с]

Hello! Beatifull games) When will the new patch come out in the game?

[@112Vbobby]

this is great! more wings of liberty pro game casting!!!!

[@friedaiceborn1663]

Would it be possible to obtain replay files for games this old? Would be cool to see you cast them first hand.

[@dhelsel89]

In the original Star Craft I used to pronounce zealot as Z-Lot

[@mechaman7818]

I love Space Battleship Yomoto.

[@dragoskocibusic]

Can you please review the blizzcon finals sOs vs Jedong (hart of the swarm)

[@GriMRe4PeR360]

For sure MLG Finals I think with the one and only - PROTOSS PRESIDENT SK_MC. God, I miss that dude.

[@ShaunYCheng]

The SVC pull was the right move

[@munkydI3]

See this is when I could probably win a tournament but now I’ll just go sit in the corner and cry lol

[@MrFancyGamer]

loving the d3 gameplay lol

[@Tryptic214]

You know I never thought about it much, but technically it isn't "yaMAto" either. It should be "YAMA-to"

[@kungpochopedtuna]

Yamoto made my day hahaha

[@MrkBO8]

Probably at the time places 4-6 picked up measly BTC prizes of between 25 and 50 BTC's .

[@Zetimenvec]

Before I even started playing this video I asked myself, "It was TvT, right?"

[@isuke01]

I'm watching in 2k the game in 720p. The future is now!

[@GrippeeTV]

Am I insane or was this map named Metalocalypse(or something like this)and not metropolis??

[@WinterStarcraft]

There was another similar city themed map called Metalopolis that was played in many of the early matches. Terrans constantly floated to the gold in the center liquipedia.net/starcraft2/Metalopolis

[@GrippeeTV]

@@WinterStarcraft AHHHH okay so I’m not crazy hahah

[@rbmore3]

Confetti game top notch.

[@CynderDragoneye]

could we get 2013 mvp vs stephano?

[@chickenlittle0093]

All i can do is imagine if modern maru, serral, or just about any pro timetravelled and played in these tournaments they would just destroy everybody with there micro alone.

[@ChayChay0510]

THE ZEALOUGHTS

[@VORP125]

That's some bronze league heroes content !

[@kuma9239]

Compared to today this feels so bad, lol. I think I've watched Winter play better games.

[@TheZealo]

YOMODO CANNON

[@mattmbx5472]

forgot how Boxer started his on team 😶

[@TheNerdForAllSeasons]

MVP the GOAT.

[@justincronkright5025]

Tomato, Winter... Tomato!

[@sleshkatgcmc1382]

YES, IT IS A LEGENDARY GAME!!!!!

[@fablesenpai8609]

Winter best!

[@Fiasc0Z0rus]

that was awesome!!! hahahahaha i want more! LOLLL THE most stressful game like casters said!!! mhahahah

[@joshsblee]

Good times

[@bovinepro8075]

ah yes, the game as it was meant to be played. with no widow memes, an actual early game, no flying siege tanks. Back when ghosts could actually snipe volley. Back before MULES were nerfed into the ground. Back when I could actually go toe to toe with my masters protoss mate without getting my shit pushed in 5 seconds flat. Back when Lurkers were where they belonged, stuck in the brood war. Back when bunker rushes were an actual threat and reapers weren't sent to byunblivion. Simpler, better times

[@jkkim6928]

Terran tears are the saltiest i gotta say

[@Goobie_gg]

Terrans literally cry any platform

[@asdfasdf-mn8iu]

Yeah, no flying siege tanks, for sure. Also, you mean back when T was just OP? Nice one.

[@LiD777]

YAMOTO!

[@valentinotto88]

Feels like bronze league

[@FinoClips]

6:50 jajajajjjs xD

[@vikingghost117]

classic

[@SquintyGears]

Mules... Still total bs enablers over a decade later

[@12321dantheman]

cursed thumbnail

[@jptailor616]

Yomoto Cannon lo/

[@filthcauldron2441]

hard to watch with big baby artosis in the background lol

[@andrewjones198]

You looks so old in that tile haha Your name is making my bones ache looking at you! I suggest a beard. If you can't grow one, build a toupee (spelling) using your neck and pubic hairs. Live that you're still steaming man, just joshing

[@sworntoavenge]

Early riser gang 🙌

[@doublecrossedswine112]

wow the modern players are so much better

[@RiccardoPala]

Because... "Yamato is BETTER" 🤣

[@asdfasdf-mn8iu]

Man, the game was unbalanced. And pros were so bad. I'm happy we are in a better place today, but some of those problems persist to this very day, wow.