Is This Heli-Plane The Most Dangerous Aircraft In The US Military? | True Cost | Business Insider

[@Semper_Iratus]

Is it built by boeing?

[@paulsteaven]

Boeing and Bell

[@ZombaEdits]

@@paulsteavenI feel like bell is pretty reliable though

[@paulsteaven]

@@ZombaEdits it is. Even Boeing is reliable when it comes to military aircrafts, it's just that Osprey is really complex due to US military's unique requirements.

[@NicoBiko-v3m]

Crazy comment fr

[@markedis5902]

It was developed is 1988 when Boeing were still working as a team. It was post the 1997 merger with McDonnell Douglas that Boeing’s management valued stock prices over anything else.

[@JarheadCrayonEater]

I lost several friends that I went to Marine Corps Boot Camp with in 1999. Shortly after that, they went down in a Osprey crash. USMC 1999-2007

[@salimmachila5736]

How many killed by US soldiers in Iraq?

[@JarheadCrayonEater]

@@salimmachila5736, not enough, apparently. You get zero sympathy from me, since you have no idea what was actually happening.

[@theadchefer]

@@JarheadCrayonEateryes no idea cause it certainly wasn’t weapons of mass destruction. government dog

[@JarheadCrayonEater]

@@theadchefer, I totally agree about the BS of us going over there. What you seem to have forgotten, or aren't old enough to remember, is none of us commoners knew what was really going on. "government dog" is such a stupid thing to say. Notice, I didn't say ignorant. I'm no fan of the government, politically, but I do support my country and what we (as in citizens) actually believe in. We don't want war, but we do need a military, because without one we're just going to allow an invasion. Save the drama for your momma, because it's going to get you nowhere with me, son.

[@cameronhermann9400]

Sorry for your loss. Thank you for service

[@ronaryel6445]

The title of this video is clickbait. The Osprey does have a persistent problem with its clutch that has never been satisfactorily addressed and so more frequent parts replacements are needed. A new 2nd generation production tiltrotor has been selected to equip the armed forces, and the new tiltrotor will not be plagued with the same issues. The death and injury rate justifies continued use of the V-22, because beyond the accident picture, the V-22 does not remain in a hot fire zone for as long as a conventional helicopter, meaning it will get troops out of range of hostile fire faster than a helicopter. This video did not point out that the very first tiltrotor was developed and flown by Bell Aircraft in 1955. t was the XV-3, and its overall appearance resembles that of the German Focke-Achgelis Model 61 helicopter of World War II. Bell is a partner in the V-22.

[@gssbcvegancat2345]

Have you ever been one of those devils running out of one? It's not like you think honestly I would rather go in ground dismount and move to position. I know we're just dumb Marines and we don't really get a choice but I wish somebody would ask us what we prefer. We're the ones about to die, at least let us feel comfortable before we do it

[@IonorRea]

@@gssbcvegancat2345 Ok, you are probably just random internet troll but anyway... Osprey is also used for the US president, it can fly above MANPADs, so that's likely behind the reason together with his speed which gives the enemy little time to react but it is overly complex and unable to safely land while experiencing complete loss of engine power which can do even Vietnam era Chinook. The upcoming Blackhawk replacement using a similar but simplified configuration to Osprey likely not win any survivability records while experiencing major technical failure or battle damage for that reason either but his performance may save marine's a$$ on the battlefield by avoiding being hit in the first place. However, it's unlikely that the US will replace Blackhawk with next-gen Valor completely as was the case of the F-35 simply because Blackhawk is good enough in many less demanding scenarios, and likely for a fraction of the total service life cost while Blackhawk due to ability to autorotate upon complete loss of power improving probability of Blackhawk's crew to survive a crash due to higher attrition ratio near the end of service life compared to a VTOL intended to replace it...

[@ANIMOUS8]

​@@IonorRea the osprey is not used for the president. Secret service won't allow the president to fly in it because of its reputation. The ospreys that are assigned to his helicopter detail are used for support staff and guests like the media.

[@AllAboutMe-cy9xj]

@@ANIMOUS8 Correct the Green-Side V-22's do not carry the President.

[@ZaiFuchigami]

3:11 That's not the actual wreckage of the crash in Yakushima in 2023. That's an image from the Okinawa crash in 2016. I was there in Yakushima during the crash, saw the search and rescue ops being executed everyday for weeks in person.

[@gssbcvegancat2345]

Semper Fi brother. Don't give in to the 22

[@ZaiFuchigami]

@@gssbcvegancat2345 I should clarify I wasn't part of the search operation. Just a civ. I did talk to a couple of the guys who were though. Solid dudes.

[@RhysoTV]

Definitely the coolest aircraft I've ever seen. Looks like something you'd see in a futuristic videogame. Actually, it's kinda like the Vertibird from Fallout!

[@DarkMan1290]

6000hp engines? Can it fit in a Miata?

[@wurdig9224]

😂sure

[@joegraziadei7895]

I am a retired marine corpse osprey pilot. It is a fine piece of machinery and never let myself or any service members I know down.

[@Meekoid]

key words here "I know"

[@johnd9000]

I watched another video that analyzed the Japan crash report. The pilots ignored multiple gearbox warnings (5+) prior to the final failure. They could have aborted the mission and landed at other fields. I suspect adjustments to SOP were made after that.

[@isaac-vb1ng]

2:40 I didn’t know they made m240s in 50 cal?

[@LanceBeckman]

Get a real job

[@isaac-vb1ng]

@@LanceBeckman found the writer who made the script

[@Pseudomonasa]

Lol thought the exact same, even though I'm not in the military and I'm not from the US

[@LanceBeckman]

@arjunhundal2698 get a life

[@nomercyinc6783]

@arjunhundal2698 people who smoke weed are better people that those who live off pharmaceutical pills. pill poppers are peoples society doesnt need

[@Seawolf44]

As a retired US Navy helicopter Test Pilot (8,200 hours, total time, UH-1, AH-1, CH/RH/MH-53, SH-2, C-12M), I have observed the long, difficult development of the V-22. Although V-22s (all variants) have had a number of accidents that shouldn’t have happened … since USMC IOC in 2007, “the military has experienced roughly the same number of fatal H-53 helicopter accidents, twice as many fatal H-47 Chinook accidents and scores of fatal H-60 Black Hawk helicopter accidents. Experts who have looked at the statistics in further detail have noted that when examining mishap rates per flying hour (statistics that are hard to pin down), the V-22 safety record is virtually indistinguishable from other aircraft flown by the U.S. military.” Having said that, however, some of the earlier issues (that still impact the V-22 reputation and pilot confidence) relate back to DoD making the decision to skip 6.4 R&D to save time and money (resulted in at least two fatal loss of aircraft accidents in the mid-80s/early 90’s. One by Military Test Pilots and one early accident, after premature Fleet introduction, was related to the bad assumption that using fleet pilots, not fully aware of V-22 power-settling characteristics, to conduct Test Pilot appropriate flight envelop expansion (steep descent approaches to landing with full load) resulted in a USMC accident near Yuma with loss of a full load of troops. Also, there have more recently been a rash of V-22 accidents that were clearly pilot error, or more precisely, very survivable incidents that became fatal accidents due to pilot errors/operational pressures/inadequate training/poor command-level decisions.

[@johnadams8445]

Doesn't make the Aircraft a POS. You get it. It been rough in the community over here.

[@raywhitehead730]

As reported under congressional questioning, this year, by the head of Naval Air Systems Command, Vice Admiral Carl Chebi: the V22 Osprey, has a Class A mishap "rate" about Twice as High as the Blackhawk helicopter. It was noted that the rate was compared to the Blackhawks' rate because it is the most appropriate comparison. Helicopter, maintenance, door gunner, Worked in every AV8A Harrier squadron the Marines ever had, became Navy Officer Aviator, HC16, H46 and Huey Helicopter November, Attack Helicopter Squadron Hal-5, HSL 35 anti- submarine, Seaprite, VXE6 Antarctica. The V22 should Never have been built. Too many, important parts under stress that would be catastrophic if it should fail. It does Not carry any meaningful weapons. Expensive to buy, very expensive to maintain. And it is very vulnerable to survive to air missiles. Also, I pioneered night vision flying along with a few of my squadron mates, years before the Army or Marines even started. Retired 1994. PhD engineering. For a year they have been flying the Osprey under much reduced flight parameters. (2024) Now very old and fly only in my dreams.

[@ltrocola2740]

Enjoyed my time flying on the Osprey, never personally had a mishap, never once had doubts for my or the rest of the crews safety. Everyone has an opinion on something which is fine, but the only opinions I personally care for are from those who have logged flight hours.

[@cwr8618]

Do you need to have smoked crack to prove it’s destructive?

[@Sexynes]

What about the opinions of those who died from it?

[@Sefert79]

@@cwr8618 Because researchers and engineers have no valid opinions on it.

[@cwr8618]

@@Sefert79 or anyone who can read mishap data. It's really weird to have that perspective when your life is the chip on the table. I've lost quite a few friends or colleagues to aircraft mishaps. Once someone is gone, that's it. Leaves a big hole with their family and friends.

[@Altiveda]

everyone says that until they're at their buddys funeral

[@autofocus211]

Amazing engineering ❤

[@macgyver5108]

It's like trying to claim Ford F-150 trucks are "the most deadly" simply because they're the most common use truck on the road and as such have more people's butts in them per hour on the road. 12:27 Look deeper and the V-22 Osprey has a _WAY BETTER_ lifetime service record "per hour" of flight time than even the Blackhawk. The Osprey flies _way_ more hours in a smaller fleet of craft and also carries _twice_ as many people if something does go sideways...

[@dougcfrary]

An amazing aircraft. Excellent military ingenuity. Look at the facts.

[@ucruci]

Ingenuity that costs $80,000 per flight hour. That's more than another flying technical white elephant F35 fighter which costs nearly $40,000. Tax dollars by the way.

[@urbanstrencan]

For me it's still one of the best development in military aircraft industry

[@qhughes4555]

you go fly in it then...

[@DiggerPrints0814]

I still cant believe they use the same engines as a C-130 (An engine not designed for vertical use) Still a fun Aircraft to fly in.

[@mendodsoregonbackroads6632]

About 76 percent of parts are common between the T406 and the AE 2100 (C-130J engine) the AE 2100 is based on the T56 C130 engine.

[@honkeykong9563]

Thumbnail looks like the Osprey is flipping the double Bird.

[@ebridgewater]

Does 😆

[@sageakporherhe783]

i see what you mean

[@lazurusknight2724]

For those who are getting twitchy, yes that is a M240 shown at the first, but around 9:23 shows a Ma Deuce. Can't mistake that butterfly trigger for anything else.

[@sevegarza]

I didn’t realize this until now, but the Osprey throws up gang signs when it’s blades are stored.

[@john_in_phoenix]

New technology has growing pains. This is not the first aircraft nicknamed "the widow maker", and it won't be the last. Unique capabilities come with risks, but the bugs will be worked out.

[@asdfghjkl92213]

Except it’s not new, it is quite old

[@john_in_phoenix]

@@asdfghjkl92213 Still the first production version.

[@cruisinguy6024]

Well said. The V-280 will undoubtedly have its own learning curve paved in blood and will inevitably be compared to the Osprey as those events happen My big issue with it is the insane pricing difference between the variants. How did we end up with the special operations version being TWENTY MILLION cheaper than the straightforward CV-22 which is FORTY million more than than the Marine variant. This is madness.

[@drewcanton235]

In answer to the question the headline asks: Ans: for the aircraft crew it is !!!

[@JasonB808]

New design? The V22 was being developed since 1986. 😒 See how people just generate their own “facts”, to suit their own biased opinions.

[@hunterscott3000]

When the title makes you wonder: for the people in it or the people near it? 😂

[@mrgarland5210]

For the other infamous widow maker, the F104, the main problem was pilot training. When Germany grounded the fleet and implemented a strict training protocol, accidents in the F104 in Germany decreased massively.

[@tz8785]

And another part was Germany forcing an interceptor into roles it never was meant to fill.

[@MadDog8932]

The problem with the Osprey is not with the pilot training but within the aircraft itself.

[@coreyschafer8397]

I absolutely love these machines and all things engineering but damn bruh 80 racks per hour per osprey 😂 shit cray

[@tunafish4557]

The parts are expensive but it's not just that there fuel hogs to

[@tommypain]

What language are you using? You should try English.

[@coreyschafer8397]

Its my second language eye don know I sorry for offense ❤

[@tommypain]

@@coreyschafer8397 Oh, not only do you choose to speak poorly, Corey, but you’re a liar, too.

[@coreyschafer8397]

@@tommypain i like ur screen name ❤️

[@programmer437]

It’s certainly the coolest

[@mdarks4117]

The scary reality of military service isn’t the fact that one could be seriously injured or killed in combat, it’s the fact that both can occur while training or travelling. 🧐

[@Saeids-z7l]

So that’s why I see these on flight radar and irl passing over my house because it’s inline with the airport in North Carolina

[@Nicksonian]

Osprey fly over every day. I live and work in Annapolis, Maryland, and almost every morning, I see two Osprey fly off to East, and in the late afternoon, they return. This has been going on for months. IDK where they come from, perhaps Andrews, or where they go.

[@NiteAtTheFort]

that is not a 50 cal that was a 7.62 mm aka not a 50 cal

[@Ragondarknes]

Yeah i'm just a shut-in gamer and i instantly noticed that too, there's no way that's EVER an M2. Honestly i wouldn't be surprised if it was a 249 5.56, but i can't tell.

[@75THRANGER1]

You can put 50s on the back. It just showed a 240

[@Ragondarknes]

@@75THRANGER1 Right i'm sure you can, but you get it.

[@RoyalDog214]

@@Ragondarknes Get what? You can still mount the .50 on the back, the video just happens to show a 240

[@smharmon21]

It was clearly a newer model. Small, lighter, smaller diameter, ".50 cal." It's like U.S. Army tanks. M113, D9 Dozer, Abrams, Bradley, M577, etc., all mighty fine tanks. Haha

[@SHEEPS_123]

Im a v22 crew chief...

[@kennethhoffman8845]

Has to be the most mechanically complex flying machine ever. The mechanism for transition to horizontal flight and back, the folding props and the rotating storage. Lot of moving parts, lots of places for wear and fatigue.

[@laramfol]

In Germany the F-104 is the plane known as widow maker. They got over 900 planes and almost 300 crashed! 116 pilots died.

[@Phantazmay]

this helicopter must kick major ass because it keeps coming back.

[@nomercyinc6783]

it took years for the blackhawk to be reliable and durable. brand new airframes arent immediately impervious to issues. people who arent in the military arent capable of being anywhere remotely close to being called an expert on military aircraft. opinions dont make anyone professional

[@TheRealSoldatmesteren]

Oh my god! Complicated military equipment is expensive and ehh complicated. Revelation of the millennia!

[@tste6759]

What is the number of people that have been carried since the nineties.

[@John_Doe3]

Are the prices for maintenance being inflated by the companies that make the parts artificially inflating their prices?

[@SC_XOLOs]

Of course !! If you want parts for it, you can’t go to auto zone

[@John_Doe3]

@@SC_XOLOs I also think that we, as tax payers, shouldn't be paying $90,000 for the military to buy a bag of bushings from a company that's gouging the military for parts just because they can.

[@SoftHeartHuman]

Capitalism and human greed don’t work.

[@adamanderson3042]

@@John_Doe3 No, 95% of the cost of maintenance cost for aircraft and ships is the army-side labour costs associated with the amount of maintainers required per unit of that thing. Specifically for aircraft, the cost of spare parts is paid in the purchase of the aircraft for the entire lifetime of the aircraft.

[@John_Doe3]

​@@adamanderson3042The inflation I'm talking about has to deal with the prices of the parts. Are they charging more than they should for the parts? I'm not concerned about the labor because they shouldn't be inflating those prices.

[@WYSEEWIG]

H-60: Death = 1.2 per 100k FH V-22: Death = 3.61 per 100k FH CH-53: Death = 5.96 per 100k FH you're welcome. :D

[@dougcfrary]

Yep, exactly

[@mackenziehauger1642]

So freaking cool

[@kz03jd]

The 2000 V22 crash was in Marana, AZ not in Yuma. 7:14

[@Seawolf44]

@@kz03jd Thanks, you are correct. It was based in Yuma, but the accident was, in fact as you say, in Marana!

[@ncrncr6574]

This beast is magestic, i hope they find solutions to secure it :/

[@cameronhermann9400]

Hope the issues, parts and training, get worked out. Still seems like a useful aircraft

[@radrcer]

I watched 5 osprey come in and land at Falcon in Mesa AZ from LA. Perfect landing….fuel… and take off to their next destination. They are majestic when changing from 200mph fixed wing to 50mph heli.

[@Hyperb2002]

2:40 - "A .50 caliber machine gun sits an the back ..." as the video shows an M240, a 7.62x51mm machine gun (Note: .50 cal, .50 BMG in this case, is 12.7x99mm. The M240 is nothing like the .50 cals used in aircraft.).

[@andrewthomas695]

If it can go wrong, it will. And there is a lot to go wrong in the Osprey.

[@nimaiiikun]

as a military man, I prefer working around and riding a traditional helicopter

[@blaskoxx4954]

I remember the one that crashed in Marana, but yeah they were training.

[@AA-xo9uw]

Pilot error. Blatant deliberate violations of the 800/40 rule don't end well.

[@katana2k]

Im 4 minutes in, and its clear to me that Business Insider has time to fill and little to say. How many times can you cut to a guy on his macbook without saying the first thing about his findings? Im about to block this channel

[@tommypain]

Then, when he finally opened his mouth, he knows nothing about statistics or data analysis. It’s just a bunch of hype to prove their premise.

[@verdebusterAP]

False The Osprey safety record exceeds the aircraft they replaced

[@kevcole3333]

this aircraft was taken out of commission today. i remember back in early 90's or late 80's when this was being tested there were numerous service men killed just in test flights. probably never should have left the drawing board.

[@mauri9289]

5:30 Boeing 🙄

[@aidancreager4095]

Of course it’s made by Boeing lol

[@reggiefurlow1]

Been reading about these things going down

[@AnonymousYouTubeconsumer]

Tl;dw the Osprey is not the most dangerous aircraft in the US Military’s arsenal.

[@BoMemphis]

Yr right it's the chinook

[@FloofyMinari]

@@BoMemphis I'm wondering why they didn't include the Chinook. The Osprey was built to replace it.

[@gssbcvegancat2345]

It's whatever they stick us Marines in, but to be fair we know the score. We're expected to do the most with the absolute least and we'll get it done. Semper Fi

[@ryanreedgibson]

It makes it hard for me as an American to take seriously a program that uses a foreigners "UK" voice to talk about our hardware. And cost is impossible to put in relative terms. It comes down to TROOP SAFTY! Children shouldn't lose their mothers and fathers to preventable crashes.

It's obvious that the amazing versatility of this aircraft comes with a very high cost : more accidents/mechanical failures and sky high maintenance costs. So many complex moving parts compared to a regular helicopter.

[@Gravitys-NOT-a-force]

Say you're "the enemy" and an Osprey lands 50 yards away. You have a 50 cal. sniper rifle and one round in the chamber. What do you aim at? One of its proprotors, NOT one of its engines. If one of the Osprey's composite-fiber proprotors is shattered, the Osprey cannot take off. I hope I'm wrong.

[@Theshrubbshow]

Couldn’t pay me a million dollars to get in this

[@Siegefya]

We had to fly from habinyah Iraq to COP rahawah(sp) in one of these, it was fine except we got a rocket shot at us on the way when we got closer to rahawah. Honestly though, i get it... it's not the pilots fault or anything i don't think, they do well...but the aircraft feels weird weird to fly in. I flew on a couple other things when I was in and this aircraft was the strangest feeling to ride in. Its a really cool aircraft but its dangerous... and you can feel it, something very odd about riding in it.

[@chocolat-kun8689]

This was actually Boeing foreshadowing their manufacturing.

[@HDSME]

Most dangerous aircraft we have

[@AA-xo9uw]

"Is The Osprey The Most Dangerous Aircraft In The US Military?" Nope

[@Pepe-dq2ib]

F104 for jet and Chinook for helicopter takes the cake

[@AA-xo9uw]

@@Pepe-dq2ib CH-53 and H-60 as well.

[@floydwegienka6582]

The Deadliest crash was in Marana (near Tucson)Arizona,not Yuma

[@7415_Gamer]

Too many transformation for a plane. We are not ready for transformers yet.

[@ResearchPapers1]

Dick cheney had to be involved? Dang

[@Bucketroo]

Nobody calls it a "heliplane", it's a tiltrotor.

[@128am1]

The narrator sounds like the dude from PBS Spacetime

[@Pedroaramburo]

If my car crashes due to a mechanical failure of the car maker and there is a recall they are liable. Why doesn't the same apply to whoever built the aircraft?

[@One_Daily45]

very cool, I like it. guys, let's stop by, there are cool and good things too, of course very useful.

[@cosmicpebble-s7z]

It's too cool a machine to be done away with.

[@markkeller8915]

sort of weak on any meaning metric, a loose collection of disjointed sound bites-- similar to those drive in screen that change before you can read and decide what your choice is.

[@EdwinSemidey]

Great Aircraft just need updating improvements

[@aeromtb2468]

and the army had order thousands of a similar type to replace the blackhawks

[@joshuamikus1516]

You can tell it’s made by boeing when it has the nickname “widow maker”

[@marclaaq]

The more complexed a system, the higher probability for failure.

[@purplex_purple7717]

East coast baby

[@kumardigvijaymishra5945]

Osprey V-22 is no less than an engineering marvel.

[@ForeverTheWar]

yes!

[@DaviAlex8]

messi, hat trick in eleven minutes, yesterday. 🎉🎉🎉

[@brapgabslab7336]

2:40 7.62 machine gun not a .50

[@timbrelane]

How many pilots/planes (P39s and P-47s) were lost from Paine Field, Everett WA during WWII? Don't even ask. It's the cost of doing business!

[@lofu32]

That's weird. I call the Boeing 787 max the widow maker.

[@Seawolf44]

@@lofu32 That’s strange, in that the 787 has had zero fatal accidents, and zero loss-of-aircraft accident.

[@Sefert79]

To compare its safety to the SH-53 is really fortunate.

[@raypitts4880]

seems like crew (BOLD BUT NOT OLD) are above others more clever we are god seems they dont stop when osprey says land me now i know im dying

[@lenitypious6579]

Boeing did it again 😱😱

[@Slcm02]

Whose congressional district is this built in ?

[@panda17284]

And the pilot of the one that crashed in Japan of fired all three warnings that came up in the aircraft. They are told to ignore the first warning and land on the second. That’s the problem. And rogue pilots who think they know it all

[@spacebuhl]

It’s because it’s made in delco YEEERRP

[@jdkgcp]

That guy giving the numbers making it seem like the Black Hawk or Stallions are somehow worse based on the number of deaths, sort of "forgot" to factor in the sheer number of the amount of aircraft and flight times compared to the Osprey. Like bro... that's simple math. OBVIOUSLY the Osprey is the deadliest aircraft in the military. Everyone knows this. Here's the short layman's version with made up numbers for example. If there's 3,000 Blackhawks flying everyday and 15 people die a year and there's 30 Ospreys flying and 8 people die a year. Which do you think is statistically more dangerous? Noticed he neglected to mention that part.

[@BobBombadil]

You beat me to it. Spot on

[@tjroelsma]

You forget that the Black Hawk and Stallion are the product of many decades of development. The first helicopters also had big problems, but by now they've been solved and therefore they have become much more reliable. The Osprey still has a long way to go, but then it's been in use for not even 2 decades, making a comparison between the Osprey and the Black Hawk and Stallion an unfair one in my opinion. As the saying goes "Rome wasn't built in a day", meaning the Osprey simply needs more time to develop.

[@BobBombadil]

@@tjroelsma They osprey has been in use since like 1989...

[@qwill8254]

Exactly 24 accidents in 35 yrs with a new helicopter and low inventory is actually low .... Sure it carries more people and the fatalities rate is high per aircraft. But to call it a widow maker . Is just stupid .... Like here in India we have mig -21 been tagged as a widowmaker. We had more 1000+ airframes which flew for 60+ yrs , imagine the sheer number of flights , out which 400+ aircraft failed or had an issues.... The ratio is actually better than six Sigma and the general public know nothing abt aircraft operations least of all so called youtuber 😅😅😅

[@bierhoff15]

There are a few hundred operational Ospreys in the Marine Corps alone, not to mention all of the Air Force's inventory as well. Marine Corps has more Ospreys than Ch-53. Your assumptions are not correct.

[@GordCurry-it4xo]

Uve flown Boeing, 75 & 72, never better aircraft, take care & be good!!

[@auro1986]

can't you replace rotors with jet engines?

[@Boomkokogamez]

It can but there will be major issue, new engines will need to be developed to give out the same or better power than the current turboprop and there is down wash issue that is still there.

[@cruisinguy6024]

They are powered by jet engines, specifically turboprops. If you’re thinking of a turbofan then no, that wouldn’t work for this application

[@ricecakeFTW]

Those number losses are low. They aren't counting thesouls and units thagwere lost during the decepticon invasions.

[@bestshorts2875]

Miata car??

[@planewire2153]

From my standpoint I say we keep it around. Has it killed way more people than it’s saved, yes, but there is no other aircraft today that scores a 10:10 on the fun scale

[@nocancelcultureaccepted9316]

To stabilize the plane, they need to add thrust at the end of each engine of the propeller. So the propeller provides lift, while the thrust provides control and additional lift

[@ZS1736]

The thrust coming from the engine is completely null and does basically nothing to the flight profile. Everything is controlled by the rotors

[@nocancelcultureaccepted9316]

@@ZS1736 Well, that’s why the Osprey isn’t a success, is it? They should try with the thrust…

[@ZS1736]

@@nocancelcultureaccepted9316 no you jack wagon…youd be redesigning the whole aircraft. Also that much jet exhaust in the ground will melt the belly. Its a turboprop aircraft.

[@June-1980]

The Avenger

[@Bofia817]

Don’t forget the one who fell in 2022 in Europe

[@Tiggaknock]

One fell in San Diego in 2022 as well if I remember correctly.

[@oquendo0021]

Narrator sounds like the youtube channel ahoy

[@jchukss]

just bought this on GTA V

[@Zyzyx442]

Gotta go fast 😂

[@saysay_unique]

The Average on GTA 😅

[@prizefighter8699]

Fun fact an Russia engineer Igor Sikorsky who relocated to usa is the founder of one of the military aircraft helicopters