Is This Saturated Fat Really an Essential Nutrient? 15 Fast Facts About C15

[@cynthiahelmich3762]

My integrative APN told me to stop eating dairy and gave me an anti-inflammatory protein supplement …when I stopped, my gut got worse. The protein supplement gave me heartburn. Added back my butter cheese and kefir, yum! My gut feels better. So glad I can tolerate dairy!

[@homomorphic]

Lol, this inspired me to break gemini. I directly asked gemini how much c15 was in half and half and it insisted that there is absolutely no c15 in half and half. I then did a google search asking how much c15 is in full fat dairy and the AI summary feature (which is also gemini) said that full fat dairy is indeed a source of c15. I then copied that response and pasted it directly into gemini and pointed out that the same model (i.e. itself) produced a different result as a search summary and I asked it to explain the self inconsistency. It never answered and if i repeat the question it consistently states "something went wrong" 😂

[@jeffrey4577]

Fyi one of the dolphins with diabetes, Dotty, lives at SeaWorld San Diego CA. I visit her often.

[@ultramiddle4991]

Course in Miracles says sometimes no defense is the best defense of all 😅

[@rtay0311]

😂😂😂😂

[@sabine8419]

AI is stupid, to say the least.😂

[@Mrs.TJTaylor]

But, “something went wrong” is the correct answer.

[@beardumaw24]

4 years ago I stopped my low fat plant based diet with worsening health and switch to a full fat low carb Animal based foods diet with lots of raw small farm raised dairy foods andy health now is way better! I'm.much healthier, stronger and feel much better !

[@nicknorwitzPhD]

Happy for you 🥹

[@Tanya-lp6rq]

I am considering this without going keto. How low are your carbs now?

[@nicknorwitzPhD]

@@Tanya-lp6rq Me? Usually

[@Fearzero]

Short term gain, long term pain. A whole plant diet w tons of PUFAs is a superior diet long term. Get your apo b checked.

[@cleoburrows]

@@Fearzero My APB b was elevated on a plant based diet. I'm trying low carb now.

[@carlr2837]

I have two anecdotes. I am taking C15, and a lady friend in taking C15. I typically eat full fat Irish (pasture raised) butter, but not very much. She is lactose intolerant, and eats no dairy at all. I am very healthy. She has many medical issues, including type 2 diabetes. I noticed no change, but when I looked carefully, my liver enzyme tests (ALT, AST, alkaline phosphatase) all dropped to where they were 7 years ago. Her changes could be a coincidence, so don't confuse anecdotes with data, but here goes: Her health in general improved. Her liver enzymes dropped back into normal range. Her A1C dropped from diabetes range to pre-diabetes range. Her doctor has had to reduce her daily insulin intake 5 times, and it is now about 20% of what she used to take daily. Remember, these are just anecdotes from some random guy on the internet, and don't prove anything. Trust the random studies, not random people. Edit- I need to add a supplemental note. It is now October, the peak of my usual allergies. Normally, at this point, I am checking the daily weather forecast, hoping for the first hard freeze to kill all the pollen. This year? No seasonal allergies at all. Related to C15? Idk, but this is definitely not normal for me, and nothing else has changed.

[@here_for_the]

Interesting read, Carl. Thanks for sharing that about your own personal experience & hers. 😊

[@carlr2837]

@@here_for_the Here's another update. I remembered that a month ago, I made another change. After hearing that the active form of C15 is pentadecanoylcarnitine, which is C15+carnitine, I started taking some acetyle L-carnitine. Perhaps that made the C15 more effective?

[@orionxtc1119]

I LOVE dairy cream

[@henrytang2203]

Being lactose intolerant doesn't mean you can't have dairy. I can have about 1 cup of milk or yoghurt daily without issues despite being diagnosed with mild lactose intolerance. The only catch is that I need to avoid certain aggravating foods like cereal, otherwise, the 'lactose intolerance symptoms' come back.

[@carlr2837]

@@henrytang2203 As a practical matter, she has chosen not to eat any dairy at all. My son has a different problem, an allergy to whey, so he can't have milk, though butter is not problem for him.

[@brookstorm9789]

Great review. Pecerino is made from milk of free range sheep in Sardinia and the milk is collected once a year. The sheep are never given hormones to artificially extend the lactation. This cheese fed the Roman legions.2000 years ago.

[@GlynWilliams1950]

You mean 2,000 years ago?

[@brookstorm9789]

@@GlynWilliams1950 Right Glyn. Typo corrected. Thank you. Now I'll look smarter!🥲pecerino

[@GlynWilliams1950]

@@brookstorm9789 you are fine. I actually didn't know that about Romans

[@DrSizbang]

You're doing the Lords work out here, Nick. Keep it up. Subscribed.

[@nicknorwitzPhD]

🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

[@2006evita]

Great video. I want to add that In Spain we have MANCHEGO CHEESE. Manchego is a very similar cheese to Pecorino as it is made from sheep’s milk, aged for a certain amount of time, and has a salty, strong flavor and a crumble texture if you choose the aged version. The only difference between Pecorino and Manchego is the region in which they are made and when you eat them it is very difficult to notice any difference.

[@nicknorwitzPhD]

I love Manchego. Literally eat daily. Have a ref for C15 content?

[@2006evita]

@@nicknorwitzPhD No I dont know but I made a query to some manchego cheese producers and if I get a reply I will post it here.

[@fingersm]

Manchego is much different taste

[@janeslater8004]

Graviera in crete tastes similar to manchega

[@1truthseeking8]

​@@nicknorwitzPhD I tried looking for info on Salmon, and every where claims it does and says how great it is,but no body is comparing with actual numbers... ? Also, what impact is there from eating species of fish that contain thiaminASE? I stumbled on a website about caring for "garden snakes" and they had a massive list and tons of research about the history of thiaminASE and the role it played in "scurvy" ....but I have yet to find anyone talking about it...? Even Carnivore channels won't speak about it???

[@DocSiders]

3 Months on 200mg of Fatty15 (C15:0 Supplement)... decades of joint and muscular pain is fading (90% improvement so far). RDW Red Blood Cell turnover rate is normalizing. Sleep improved. Weight loss resumed. Energy (motivation to be active) increased. Better blood sugar control (postprandial spikes decreased in amplitude). If this is all placebo....I'm still all for it.

[@wocket42]

How much dairy fat and other animals fats were you consuming per day before? 200mg is probably in 20g of dairy fat/25g butter.

[@williamlee6079]

Did you try fish oil omega 3 also ? I had body pains all over,but mostly muscles pains. After I took 6 to 8 grams of omega 3 for a few days, my pains reduced by a lot until it's doesn't bother much. Then cat's claw and 5 to 10 mg vit K2 mk4 remove most of the remaining pains.

[@not_sure...]

Same, I'm only a month in and I can actually tell a huuuuuge difference. It's really rare when a supplement is this noticeable. Been on carnivore for over a year and this literally took it to the next level. If it is placebo, I'm all for it too. I thought it was expensive for what it is at first especially since I was "getting enough" from food sources, but nah, this is well worth it. I actually cut down on some dairy products as they have become less appetizing since I started taking the supplement. I wonder if my body craved those dairy products for this specific fat? 🤔

[@donnazavitz1095]

so enjoy listening to your lectures Nick! Keep up the good work and all the puns!! Cheers from Ontario, Canada

[@nicknorwitzPhD]

Cheers from Boston!

[@aprilek6003]

Awesome review and breakdown Nick. And Yes, bring back full fat dairy to school lunches!!!!!!

[@nicknorwitzPhD]

You got it… bye bye Fat free chocolate milk, pizza bagels and 15 minutes of physical activity… hello full fair dairy, adequate protein and a proper recess (with dodgeball please 🙏🏻)

[@helenahandkart1857]

We used to get free full cream milk at primary school recess. (South Australia, 50 years ago).

[@JMK-vo8pv]

You mentioned the importance of C15 fatty acids for cell membrane integrity. How about doing a presentation on the importance of cholesterol in the structure and FUNCTION of human cell membranes (including neuronal tissues) and why it might NOT be a good idea to lower blood and brain cholesterol.

[@carolinegrant7924]

yes!

[@myronrayevasco2344]

i was two months pf c15 supplemnt and my result cameback yesterday ldl, uric, cholesterol im shocked went back to optimal range!

[@SkedgySky]

This guy made me drive to the store to buy and eat a piece of cheese ive never heard of.

[@nicknorwitzPhD]

Love it 🥰

[@jaro6985]

Whats the taste like

[@helenahandkart1857]

​@@jaro6985a bit like parmesan.

[@cathiemcginnis3997]

It's also called Peccorino Romano or just Romano. My Sicilian grandparents ate it all the time.

[@elinino5275]

​@@cathiemcginnis3997 yep! I love it!! I buy Galli. They sponsored an Italian Olympian 😄

[@marcuscarter]

Another great vid Nick, congrats on the 100k, here comes that plaque 👏(pd. you have to apply for it, it's not automatic 👍)

[@nicknorwitzPhD]

Thanks for the info

[@marcuscarter]

You're welcome 🙏

[@PremVijayVelMani]

Nice video! I would like to add that beef tallow is a equally good source of C15 as dairy fat and hence even in paleo for example, one can get good amount of C15 through fatty cuts of beef and lamb!

[@dorjedrakpo2573]

Yes. Meat is a superior source except for butter. Lactose is for babies, meat is for children.

[@rumproast5159]

Decades ago if you read anything by Dr Sherry Roger’s news letter, she always said eat full fat milk, yogurt and the like. Low fat was unhealthy. She’s just stopped writhing her news letter as she is in her late 80’s now.

[@nicknorwitzPhD]

In the words of a kid I know "Low-fat is sus"

[@toni4729]

You've made my day, I guzzle milk, I add cream to my coffee and consume as much butter as possible too. I'm only sorry to say that cheese seriously affects me to the point where, if I consume it, it practically cripples me. Weird isn't it? I really love milk and go through about ten litres a week.

[@MsSharondenadel]

Science and detailed facts are very interesting. I was lucky enough to see my grand parents and great grand parents consuming fresh and whole dairies among other healrhy foods and live more than hundred year, in good shape and brain fully functional to understand that i would do the same, and for my kids too 😊

[@nicknorwitzPhD]

Lovely

[@alexr6114]

My father's parents had a dairy farm in Wisconsin. Dairy was always a major part of our diet. I am a ketovore, but I cannot give up dairy. I eat more cream now than milk.

[@marilynflannery2152]

THANK YOU! I'm happy to hear your opinion on the subject. That's a nice plus for dairy, especially cheese!!

[@nicknorwitzPhD]

It really is!

[@aurapopescu1875]

@@nicknorwitzPhD Talking about dairy... I wonder what you think about the Neu5Gc research? Dr. Steven Gundry has made a big deal out of it...

[@karensprings4237]

​@@nicknorwitzPhDyou made my daughter's day. Cheese is her favorite food group. ❤😂

[@untio]

Perhaps better butter than cheese? For this I mean

[@meriksen_]

Is C15 in butter and ghee? I'm so sorry if that's a dumb question. I know some people that can't tolerate dairy can use butter. Thanks so much!

[@nicknorwitzPhD]

Yes.

[@petermadany2779]

@@nicknorwitzPhD Thanks for *clarifying* this.

[@polibm6510]

​@@nicknorwitzPhD And how much in the comparison of pecorino for example?

[@Gengh13]

​@@petermadany2779he just ghee'd it.

[@lindapestridge3073]

​@@petermadany2779Clarified butter Ha Ha .

[@aurapopescu1875]

The sheer IRONY..... after convincing us for decades not to eat dairy fat, now they are selling it to us as an expensive supplement 🤣

[@mowthpeece1]

Nah. It's probably deliberate. They removed fiber from foods only to sell it back separately. It's the commercial model. By accident or design.

[@nicknorwitzPhD]

I think you're confusing different "they"

[@aurapopescu1875]

@@nicknorwitzPhD I know... but just for once I was not being pedantic 😉 The fact remains that we are being offered expensive supplements for deficiencies acquired due to the official "nutrition recommendations" of the past 50 years... as you pointed out yourself in the video.

[@24bellers20]

Can we not just eat butter?🤷🏻‍♂️

[@carlr2837]

@@24bellers20 Yes, you can eat butter (and cheese), but not just any butter. There is much more C15 in milk from cows than feed on grass. The problem is more than just that "they" told us to stop drinking full fat milk. The other side is that, to save money, the dairy industry stopped letting cows graze on grass. If you want adequate C15, you need to eat butter (or cheese) from pasture raised animals. You can still find it, if you buy Irish butter, or butter from New Zealand, and sometimes Germany, but I have not seen any pasture raised butter of US origin at all. Do not, by the way, confuse "organic" milk with "pasture raised" milk. Organic only means that the feed was raised organically. A cow could be fed "organically raised corn", and it would be organic, but it would not contain much C15.

[@rnancyp7986]

thank you for the confirmation about C15

[@chensally3]

Nick's presentation has been easier to understand for lay person like me. In other words he is less 'nerdy' now. Thanks Nick!

[@nicknorwitzPhD]

I'm trying to provide content at multiple levels of depth to make my overall intellectual ecosystem more accessible.

[@davidzaharik5408]

Your closing joke cracked me up... very interesting topic... gotta do a Costco run in the next few days... they sell pecorino!

[@nicknorwitzPhD]

Glad you appreciate the puns and didn't think "how Dare He"

[@truthseeker9701]

Ahhhh… so glad you’re talking about C15! Been reading about it recently! 👍

[@nicknorwitzPhD]

Glad you enjoyed

[@melissawitherspoon9094]

Thanks for this breakdown. It will be interesting to see where the science goes on c15. Nice video.

[@nicknorwitzPhD]

Thanks. It will

[@generalfishcake]

It's interesting to test if there's a correlation between lactose intolerance (lack of lactase) and C15 deficiency, and also fatty liver & diabetes.

[@nicknorwitzPhD]

You may be interested in this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/amOao6yXe9Cilac

[@carsonwhitney4100]

@@nicknorwitzPhD C15 deficiency leads to fragile cellular syndrome.

[@hiraijo1582]

Actually lactose intolerant people can eat fermented dairy without problems. The fermentation process predigests lactose. So they can eat fatty cheeses that have aged longer than 6 weeks and mostly they also have no problems with sour cream, heavy cream and butter( almost pure fat)

[@steshaw6510]

@@hiraijo1582 can they also drink kefir?

[@hiraijo1582]

@@steshaw6510 most people with lactose intolerance tolerate lactose in very small amounts.Kefir is 3.5-6.0g/100g lactose. For some this may be fine for others it might be to much.Better choice: High fat Greek Yoghurt( 10% fat) has only 2.5g/100g lactose. Just try if you can tolerate it.

[@Mom0fTwins]

I hope to find out if heating milk (i.e. pasteurization or even UHT) would damage C-15 as it damages other nutrients. Thanks for the heads up.

[@matthewfarrell317]

Interesting, here in Australia, one of our milk brands has a cold pressed milk, treats the milk, but doesn't cause the heat damage pasteurisation causes. Would love to know the effects on C15.

[@EduardQualls]

It doesn't look like it, given how SFAs act in "vegetable oils": _During the heating process the polyunsaturated fatty acid (PUFA) content of vegetable oils decreases while that of saturated fatty acids (SFAs) usually increases._ => "Effects of Repeated Heating on Fatty Acid Composition" NIH PMC8774349.

[@nicknorwitzPhD]

I wouldn't think so.

[@miklimecat9636]

​@@matthewfarrell317 oh, which Aus brand is that, please?

[@liciniooliveira-becas3618]

If it does, it should also destroy the nutrients on cooked meat...

[@johnbemery7922]

i am surprised pasture raised butter is not listed as a good source, butter is all fat. Excellent video, i like the format, and your narrative is logical and very easy to follow.

[@MrLibranda]

Ghee is more concentrated as butter is melted to remove its water content. It has the protein content as well. So, it is not all fat.

[@grazynangg322]

Thank you for this video. It explains a lot. We've got a great scientist in Poland, who is encouring people to eat full-fat dairy, prof. Grażyna Cichosz. I really appreciate your brilliant sense of humour!

[@joannar5471]

ok wait- so we should eat full fat dairy during our carnivore/ egg mealtimes? Got it.

[@nicknorwitzPhD]

I personally do. I think cheese can be a great health food, as can yogurt and kefir. I always go full fat if given the choice

[@polibm6510]

@@nicknorwitzPhD What about butter?

[@BeefNEggs057]

@@polibm6510 Of course. Always.

[@polibm6510]

@@BeefNEggs057 Probably. But what good good source is it?

[@PudgyCurmudgeon]

@@polibm6510 It's Better With Butter So Long As It Is Not "I Can't Believe It's Not Butter" which is actually toxins a tub.

[@ivanrosemusic]

Great walkthrough on this topic! By the way, what's your opinion on coffee?

[@chris7brook]

Black Coffee (no sugar)☕ & Butter 🧈 good

[@nicknorwitzPhD]

As an medical trainee, I'm a fan.

[@chris7brook]

@@nicknorwitzPhD have you tried butter in your coffee yet? Of course grass fed unsalted

[@carrdoug99]

Great video. I would like to see some examples of other cheeses (dairy in general) and how little consumption is needed. Pecorino Romano is the only example ever given in videos on C15. I googled cheddar cheese out of curiosity, and it seemed to my novice brain that it also was very high in C15.

[@cdramafan]

I am going to guess that you can find Pecorino Romano unpasteurized-so hard to find unpasteurized cheeses in the US. Costco has a couple.

[@Crumbling]

Interesting, useful and crisp. Great video

[@nicknorwitzPhD]

Many thanks!

[@saraha6237]

This is all so good, Nick. Your content confirms again and again what my nutritionist recommends for my situation (while I experience my doctors and peers still so judgmental and derogatory about her suggestions). My nutritionist is stunning - so are you!

[@nicknorwitzPhD]

So glad!

[@Darwin973]

Great information presented with professionalism and humour. Love your videos.

[@nicknorwitzPhD]

Glad you like them!

[@karenbuchert3377]

Thanks, Dr Nick!!! Great video!! Beautiful communication skills!! Awesome. Pecorino cheese daily! Great idea.

[@nicknorwitzPhD]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@mindofown]

Great explanation thankyou from the most Isolated city in the world, Perth Western Australia

[@vuotava11]

Excellent videos Nick!! Keep up the good work! I've been involved in food safety (but not dietary value) all my professional life. When I started to discover the absolute disaster hidden in the dietary recommendations, I basically lost my confidence in science in general. We have a very long road ahead to crawl out of this black hole called "dietary recommendations".

[@TrishTruitt]

Article "Health Conscious? Here’s Why You Should Skip the Skim Milk" profiles a study from 2016 of interest "according to a new study published in the American Heart Association journal Circulation, people who regularly consume full-fat dairy weigh less and are less likely to develop diabetes than those who consume low-fat dairy products."

[@nicknorwitzPhD]

Quite a few studies like this, yes.

[@sharpgarden8675]

Nick, please discuss the idea that the “unnatural” high levels of stored omega 6 in modern man`s viceral fat can be protected from oxidation by C15. If modern man demand quite a lot of certain antioxidants to prevent the stored PUFA from going rancid, will this take away limited antioxidant resources from the cell membranes and intracell membranes (as around miticondrias)? Limited intake of omega 3 will then be less critical when protected by C15 because the cell membranes themselves will last longer (less demand of omega 3). Thank you for interesting presentations. Best regards Mr. Helge

[@nicknorwitzPhD]

Send me citation for that hypothesis?

[@sharpgarden8675]

@@nicknorwitzPhD Dear Nick, It is my own hypothesis based on the information that C15 integrated in the membranes makes them "stronger"/"stiffer"/"more resistant". It is established knowledge that modern man often got 3 times more stored omega 6 than the palioman. It is also established that half life of stored omega 6 is 2 years. When it takes about 4 years to get rid of excess omega 6, longer than mouse life span. I do belive mouse experiments are of less value. It is reasonable to belive that PUFAS stored at 37C for 4 years will go rancid without the right amount of antioxidants. Best regards Mr Helge

[@bigcat9977]

USDA dietary recommendation is a joke.

[@nicknorwitzPhD]

Not a funny one

[@-astrangerontheinternet6687]

We gettin pranked

[@BeefNEggs057]

Psychotic Joker joke where everyone 😵. At least the joker gives a good laugh first.

[@Hertz2laugh]

USDA is a joke. Buncha' do-nothing nothings who've sold out to lobbiests. The epitome of toxic bureucracy.

[@mhpjii]

@@bigcat9977_a joke_ . . . on us

[@sunshinemama9143]

I'M NOT THAT SHELLFISH!!! OMG LOLOL!!! Thank you for this video!!!! Could you do a deep dive video on the randle cycle, especially regarding how fast the switch is between fatty acid and glucose utilization when the diet is mostly protein and fats, plus a little bit of glucose from plants(under 25-50 total carbs)?

[@nicknorwitzPhD]

Glad you liked the pun.

[@karenbuchert3377]

Thanks, Dr Nick!!! Great video!! Beautiful communication skills!! Awesome.

[@nicknorwitzPhD]

My pleasure!

[@carolp5039]

I love my full fat dairy!

[@nicknorwitzPhD]

Me too

[@joshydillens148]

@@nicknorwitzPhDDon‘t you think dairy is a problem an apoe4 + carrier?

[@fronniebealer7808]

​I see content creators using reduced far cream cheese and cottage cheese. I worry about that. I wish dairy in this country had an even higher percentage of fat. Thanks for this great video.

[@petermadany2779]

@@fronniebealer7808 I combine water, half-and-half, and heavy cream when making my chai or matcha latte to get a super fatty milk substitute. For the sake of frothiness, the more lactose, the better, so using just heavy cream and water wouldn't be as fun to drink. At cafes, I order an unsweetened matcha latte, "breve," which means half-and-half instead of milk.

[@clovermark39]

What’s wrong with full fat milk?

[@zamfirtoth6441]

Unfortunately, associative studies are why we can have so many influencers give us completely opposite information, and have both sound plausible.

[@nicknorwitzPhD]

Need to be taken in context of other data. Often best for hypothesis testing. But not all questions can be answered with RCTs.

[@zamfirtoth6441]

It puts us in the position of having to research the integrity of the messenger before we even look at the message.

[@leonpetersen7346]

There yer go!! We can never be sure of the effect of confounders....fatty meat, fatty fish....nature's best, no argument

[@emilee_7265]

Pecorino is sheep cheese, and this milk is high in saturated fats, mct also. I drink sheep milk with coffee, soooo good...

[@dcnike820]

Another brilliant and highly educational video. Keep them coming please (despite 4th year med school!). My partner, a Pediatrician, will love the whole milk in school recommendation.

[@nicknorwitzPhD]

Fantastic! And GO your partner!!

[@seahog32]

I've always loved dairy and consumed it exclusively in its full-fat version in large quantities, to the hell with the proclaimed consequences. Nevertheless, I always felt marginalized by both the vegan and the carnivore camps. Thanks for the vindication!

[@StarNumbers]

...not the carnivore camp

[@thewrightoknow]

Thank you, very helpful with my insulin resistance!

[@nicknorwitzPhD]

Very welcome!

[@mtvcop1366]

I'll be checking the price of Peccorino cheese locally - fyi, Fatty 15 sells for $40/month for a daily 100 mg dose. Thanks for the good review, balanced and informative.

[@nicknorwitzPhD]

I get more than that from cheese for sure, hehe

[@Spyrit2011]

I am lactase persistent, I drink grassfed Cream top whole milk. It is small batch VAT pasteurized dairy.

[@edithh6779]

I second the question about the effect of pasteurization, whether it's low temperature, high temperature, or ultra high temperature? Thanks

[@andrewmoonbeam321]

I've always liked dolphins, they're good people.

[@nicknorwitzPhD]

Haha... I agree.

[@jaym9846]

Flipper?

[@andrewmoonbeam321]

@@jaym9846 No thanks, I've just eaten.

[@ryansturdivant387]

​@@andrewmoonbeam321 LMAO 😂

[@BeatrixBetwixt]

I’m glad I found your channel. So informative! I just recently switched to a grass fed greek yogurt. Great timing!

[@nicknorwitzPhD]

Indeed! Welcome!

[@howmoneyworks2024]

Great video Nick, to the point, good coverage of the studies and points! Much appreciated! :)

[@funkeelaine]

Thanks for clarifying about omegs-3. Omega-3 is the balm for my dry eye syndrome.

[@PieraB]

Awesome vid! Viva il pecorino! Im Italian and Pecorino has been on the table my whole life. Thank you for this lovely confirmation! Blessings and health to all! Mangia Mangia :D

[@carnivore_for_future]

Saturated fat is important for hormones and brainhealth

[@patis3305]

Hi Nick. New subscriber. I've been doing Carnivore for almost 6 weeks, and FEEL so much better physically. But I need some help and encouragement to keep going. I ate dairy at the beginning of this journey, but after a 10 or 11 lb loss, I hit a plateau so I removed dairy. 😢 It doesn't seem to be making that much difference at all. I lose a bit, gain a bit, but haven't lost all week. I'd like to lose another 25ish lbs as I have a 31% BMI. I really miss dairy. It makes carnivore SO much better! Would you have any advice?

[@dr.joannegordon155]

Love the video! What do you recommend c15 if dairy intolerant? Are supplements the way to go?

[@jakehayes1345]

That made my day, I love pecorino!! great tangy taste..... thanks Nick!!

[@nicknorwitzPhD]

Very welcome 🙏🏻:)

[@karilockremwellness8123]

Thank you for covering this. I recently learned about C15 for weight loss. Is there any testing for deficiency? Like the omega quant test for omega 3.

[@agnesbfenoli]

I make everything from raw dairy and keep it raw when I make kefir, yogurt and cheese. Good stuff!❤❤❤

[@rumproast5159]

Thank you Dr Nick Norwitz for your incredible channel.

[@MAGNUM2F]

Great lecture Doc. I learned some stuff here.

[@nicknorwitzPhD]

Glad it was helpful!

[@milantoth2045]

Stunning content, thanks a lot 🙏

[@nicknorwitzPhD]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@hinglemccringleberry1824]

Thank you for covering this!!! You’re the man!!!

[@nicknorwitzPhD]

Thank you. Glad you appreciated the material

[@robertsemenoff4970]

But all the foods with c15 are also high in c16. We know how much c15 is enough, but how much additional c16 is safe ?

[@jimw6801]

Thanks. Another excellent video and love your work!!

[@nicknorwitzPhD]

Thanks 🙏🏻

[@simonmorrison8570]

And here’s me, in the UK as a LMHR in his 50’s following a low carb eating protocol being told by my doctor that I need to eat less fat particularly dairy due to my ‘worryingly’ high LDL cholesterol. He doesn’t know what a LMHR is firstly and was somewhat taken aback when I asked for my HDL and triglyceride numbers in conjunction with my LDL. I suppose as a patient my ‘dunning-Kruger’ is in effect when conversing with a medical professional so it’s hard to know which way to go. I feel the statins conversation is looming. Now, where did I put those Oreos 😂

[@nicknorwitzPhD]

Your reference to Dinning-Kruger alone reveals your insight and open-mindedness. I think if someone doesn’t appear to be coming to the table believing they have something to learn from you - including a doctor - that’s a problem.

[@fiorenzo6301]

Hi Nick, I am following you very strictly because I am very, very ill. My immune system is really upside down, and I have many different symptoms at the same time that make me suffer a lot. Crohn's disease and also the connected rheumatic implications have really debilitated my body in the last 20 years. 2 months ago, I have taken the road of the Lion diet but I have encountered many difficulties. At the moment, many problems are solved and my body is healing in some way because I feel better and I have less pain in the joints. I would like to ask you a question as follows: Do you suggest I integrate dairy and eggs? Because I struggle on only cow meat and also I have lost a lot of weight and I am lean. Of course, I am doing my best to eat as much as possible but with only meat, it is difficult. I really like cheese etc., so it is not a problem. Through your experience with Crohn's disease, do you find that having also something else than meat is good for our healing? Please reply, it is very important for me and also I believe in your competence.

[@PeterDMayr]

Try natto in flavoured natural soup. It is the best value for c15.

[@nicknorwitzPhD]

I'm sorry for your struggles, and I'm sorry I can't provide you personal medical advice. That wouldn't be appropriate. But I'm glad you're feeling better. I think the best course is to be careful and observant about what triggers your symptoms. Nobody can tell you better than that. When I've tried carnivore, I include fish and lamb, not just beef. I also included eggs and A2 dairy. But that's me.

[@OldRoadFarm-ck3mj]

​@@PeterDMayr Soy is not going to help and natto causes gastric distress for some people.

[@fiorenzo6301]

Thank you for your advices. I am not seeking a medical advice but I am looking to understand what path did you followed. Now what are you doing for your crohn disease? Are you on medication or what "kind" of diet are you following? Thanks ​@@nicknorwitzPhD

[@PeterDMayr]

@@OldRoadFarm-ck3mj Some people. I hope it doesn't for you. I'm trying to ascertain if natto has c15. Maybe? Research/review on: Update on food sources and biological activity of odd-chain, branched and cyclic fatty acids -- A review

[@brendabowers2320]

Great news! Looking up the studies too! ❤

[@nicknorwitzPhD]

Wonderful!

[@kenguidry1369]

Excellent as always! And thanks for the shout-out to @Physionic, both of you are my primary sources for helping me digest the journals I read... My brain candy!😁

[@nicknorwitzPhD]

Cheers 😊😊

[@nancieamethyst2541]

I followed keto for 6 months and developed super high LDL and cholesterol. I had no energy and put on 10lbs. I felt terrible. I really wanted it to work! Feeling so much better now. I’m APoE4. No Sat fat for me.

[@mettejensen8653]

yes, as miraculous as many say, it is. It does not have that effect on everyone.

[@gloriagiorgi1026]

Maybe you can try carnivore with moderate fat and up the fat gradually. If you want to try it again by any chance..

[@revansland]

You may have that backwards, avoid seed oils 100%, Carnivore diet 80% Fat, 20% Protein and supplement with choline.

[@LakeOuachita]

Wow! Great video. Granny here, loves her full fat dairy!! Congrats on the subs, getting close to 100k 👏👏👏

[@nicknorwitzPhD]

Thank you 🙏🏻… yes it’s going well… thanks to all of you

[@michael-qp9xd]

Hello - thanks for review. You mention medical researcher for podcast Physonic. His review overall saying data very weak statistically for any benefits for c15 for all studies in humans. Please could comment more on his review? More studies ongoing with c15 but seems with high cost of supplement not really justified at this point. Just so many supplements out there and all produces claiming there’s is vital so what to believe best? Good you mention how can get c15 in foods so best in case just get via foods. Great anymore on your thinking if you would use supplement?

[@MFR03]

you make really good content.keep it on!

[@nicknorwitzPhD]

I appreciate that!

[@twiggyfitness]

Always appreciate your videos. I'm animal based nutrition for life.

[@nicknorwitzPhD]

Glad you enjoy them :):)

[@joetrolo7076]

Curious how grass-fed English cheddar measures up on that. I really grew to love that and replaced potato chips or fries with healthy cheese as a side with meals, once I found out those are super poisonous. I've been on a healthy track for 3 and 1/2 years now. Really appreciate how you inform us in a way that's understandable and fun. Our journey of good health and sustaining it is definitely assisted by videos like yours and you are now my favorite to watch. Thanks, Nick!😉

[@dcartier1692]

Cheddar comes out as a high C15 source on most lists I have come across - grass fed, all the better!

[@joetrolo7076]

@@dcartier1692 thanks, that's great to hear. My tastes have shifted and I really enjoy that cheese now.

[@createnotconsume7721]

I heard a recent talk on C15 and this video is very timely! The veterinarian that discovered the role of c15 mentioned dairy animals that live at higher altitudes produce more c15. So, the best full fat would come from high altitude dairy. Yak milk or reindeer milk??? Not only do these animals typically live at a higher altitude but it their milk has an overall higher fat percentage.

[@TasFirinErkegi]

mountain goats

[@saeedgnu]

I love heavy creams, preferrably unpasturized. Specially half-frozen. Best replacement for ice cream.

[@nicknorwitzPhD]

Sounds great

[@nancysmith-baker1813]

More great healthy info thankyou .

[@theodorntiniozosmarinis6883]

Cows feeding regime affecting C15:0 concentrations in milk probably has more to do about the fact that it affects the bacteria in the rumen. Whille the mammary gland can synthesize C15:0 from proprionate, bacterial cell walls are also a source of C15:0. Diets rich in grains like corn can significantly reduce rumens ph, thus affecting the bacterial populations.

[@goodcat1982]

So i'm still good drinking double cream straight out the tub? :)

[@Pascal270]

Ah you too? 😁

[@nicknorwitzPhD]

I'm not your doctor... but as I have a habit of eating pecorino dipped in macadamia butter by the block and jar... can't criticize

[@goodcat1982]

@@nicknorwitzPhD 😉😉

[@goodcat1982]

@@Pascal270 I lift heavier weights the more soluble fat i consume! It's like steroids to me :)

[@miklimecat9636]

​@@nicknorwitzPhD 😆 I put salted Kerrygold butter on my cheese sometimes.

[@fredsmit3481]

Nick, where did you find the information ranking the amount of c15 in cheese and hopefully other dairy? I performed a search, but could not find anything.

[@samuelcakar174]

Finally, great video!

[@nicknorwitzPhD]

Thanks!

[@MarkThomasMedia]

And the same source, Google AI on C15 and butter. I had just also asked about cheddar cheese. "C15 fatty acids in butter Similarly to Cheddar cheese, C15 fatty acids, specifically pentadecanoic acid (C15:0), are also present in butter. They are a part of the milk fat composition, contributing to the overall fatty acid profile of the butter. Key points about C15 fatty acids in butter: * Presence: They are naturally occurring components of butter, derived from the milk fat. * Type: Pentadecanoic acid (C15:0) is the primary C15 fatty acid found in butter. * Amount: The exact amount can vary depending on factors like the type of milk used and processing methods. * Role: They contribute to the overall flavor, texture, and nutritional profile of butter. Would you like to know more about C15 fatty acids or their role in butter?" So, maybe Google has been listening to Nick?

[@TrishTruitt]

OMG, I got so excited when I saw that you were digging into this. I think C15 is the real deal, and should be considered an EFA. I've been drinking whole (raw) milk for 20+ years from farmers that grass-feed their heritage breed cows (usually A2). In cases where I was unable to get to one of these farms (the only way to buy it in my state), my health deteriorated, in a noticeable way. It's my medicine.

[@nicknorwitzPhD]

I'm glad you found something that works for you and that you're enthusiastic about this topic

[@mattsumpter3497]

Guys, there’s a massive difference between being deficient in key nutrients, supplementing those nutrients, and getting those nutrients through unhealthy sources. Just because under-nourished people and old people benefit from more C15, and supplementing works, doesn’t mean you should start pounding whole-fat dairy. It’s disappointing that Nick doesn’t make these distinctions, and he doesn’t talk about the large body of literature behind dietary recommendations to minimize saturated fat from dairy. I would expect more rounded discourse from a professional researcher, not a keto stan account.

[@RussRasmussen]

You need to get educated your a idiot if you think low fat is healthy your very uneducated

[@Trahloc]

Justin from the Thought Emporium could totally make Dolphin cheese if he really wanted too ... Great video Nick!

[@nicknorwitzPhD]

I'd taste it, tbh... provided it was ethically produced.

[@Trahloc]

@@nicknorwitzPhD He has a series during covid where he was copying the genes to make various species milk into various bacteria or yeast (too many years forgot which). He did it so that it could be used as prior art and not patentable and show folks how genetic engineering can be done.

[@ngana8755]

14:28 min mark: Pecorino cheese has highest C15 content.

[@trap7196]

Fuck you. You just wasted a minute of my time.

[@yurinator4411]

My grandmother used to tell me that nobody needs to drink milk (in her time it was whole milk) by the time we became teenagers. She used to say that a cow's milk was not intended for humans but for calves and that milk was meant to make the calf grow strong quickly. She speculated that it may contain growth hormones or steroids to help the calf put on weight/muscle fast and be independent as soon as possible. As soon as the calf reached a certain age, the cow would wean the calf off of its milk and onto grass. If the calf need not drink milk anymore, neither do we, after a certain age. She also speculated that the growth hormones and steroids in the milk can't tell the difference between a calf and a cancer tumor in us. Maybe that applies only to raw milk...

[@OldRoadFarm-ck3mj]

Calves must be forced to wean. Many cows won't do this themselves, even at the expense of the calf they are pregnant with. For many cultures dairy was the only reason they survived. Horses, sheep, cattle, goats, water buffalo, camels, yaks, reindeer, all have been utilised for their milk by different cultures, for adults as well as children. If any of what your grandmother believed was true those cultures would have died out.

[@yurinator4411]

@@OldRoadFarm-ck3mj They are forced to wean early by farmers in order to keep the cow economically feasible. It is usually done about 6 to 8 months after birth. Left to nature, calves are naturally weaned by their mothers about 10 months after birth, on the average. The heifers naturally wean after about 9 months and the bulls after about 11 months.

[@OldRoadFarm-ck3mj]

​@@yurinator4411 Often they don't. I've had some very difficult calves that required weaning rings as adults to stop them nursing off their mother, and that was after a span of separation. We only have a small herd on 11 acres. Calves are actually weaned to preserve the condition of the mother so she has the reserves built up to support her next calf. She must have time to build up good quality colostrum and that requires good body condition. If there's a drought calves are weaned even earlier. It's all about the health of the mother because the financial future of the farm rests on her.

[@HakuCell]

hey Nick is it true that on keto one never feels hungry? if that's the case, ketosis could make weight loss easy.

[@nicknorwitzPhD]

No... you can still feel hunger on keto. But ketones ca reduce hunger and a ketogenic diet can reduce hunger. But it would be pretty awful if hunger drive went away entirely without carbs.

[@Helen-nv8el]

I find keto, and even more, Carnivore reduces my food cravings and makes it easier to avoid binge eating.

[@tammyellison735]

I do use full-fat dairy products, including milk. What is your opinion on adults who drink milk and dairy?

[@Retler39]

I’m in Sicily and I just bought Pecorino when I arrived yesterday. Love it!

[@williamhightower4940]

Ok I had to watch this again. I'll check out the other video. I am curious on if c15 would be helpful to a diabetic working on putting their disease into remission while on a keto style diet. When I first heard about this during an interview with the biologist I was skeptical when she plugged a C15 pill. Watched the recommended video. I am still skeptical. I'd like to try some sheep cheese though.

[@ImaJunkyoBell]

If C15 is actually essential then shouldn't we see large numbers of older vegans with deficiencies and specific symptoms or diseases associated with the deficiency?

[@LifeIsThePrayer]

Any of the older vegans I’ve seen do not look healthy at all. And something like 85% of vegans give it up within the first 3 years. Their level of C15 may depend on how much they had stored in their body before they chose the vegan diet.

[@zenamatthews9380]

I mean... We do. In fact, very few vegans become old vegans. I just can't prove to you that it's because of C15 specifically.

[@ImaJunkyoBell]

@@zenamatthews9380 Then cite the studies and statistics that irrefutably show that vegans and vegetarians don't live as long as omnivores and explain what specific causes of death are responsible for the lower longevity.

[@tomunderwood4283]

6:40

[@zenamatthews9380]

@@ImaJunkyoBell I mean they quit being vegan due to bad health outcomes from their diet.

[@BrendannKellyy]

This is so interesting. Nick, would ghee butter have less C-15 since the dairy content is lower? And also, is pecarino cheese your primary source of C-15? Wondering how best to incorporate in my keto diet. :)

[@wocket42]

Ghee is concentrated milk fat. Does not change the profile. You can make ghee yourself from heavy cream.

[@nicknorwitzPhD]

Ghee/butter will have C15 since it's dairy fat. Pecorino is great. Good just on it's own... making keto pesto... making dressings... on salads... anywhere you use parmesan you can use pecorino.

[@cdinaz]

We've been consuming quite a lot of homemade full fat kefir and yogurt. Pecorino, parmesan and other imported cheeses are staples. This is largely due to the fact that Italian cheeses are still made with real rennet instead of the Pfizer microbial enzymes made from GMO grain. Thanks for this video, it was very interesting and informative.