Is this Stupidity? 2 Wheel Drive, Steep Slope and No ROPS!

[@midwayfarms]

Another thing people that's not from our area don't understand the type of ground that we have to work on and have worked on all of our lives anything can happen but you pay more attention on steep ground than you do flat ground I've been on a tractor since a 5-year-old great video

[@khtractors]

You’re right, around here we have to learn to be good operators and more aware of the equipment capabilities because of the terrain! Thank you!

[@coalminersdaughter]

Truth!

[@ShannonTilman]

Ben, I’ve watched your channel for years. And you can tell how you run your equipment you’ve had years of experience. You don’t ram stuff, you over rev your engine, you let the tool do the work. Your channel is one of the best on learning proper ways to use your equipment to get the most out of it.

[@khtractors]

Thank you!!

[@curtisking2962]

My comment from last week stands. You are one of the best operators on hills and grade work as I've seen. There's no replacement for experience. Be careful, enjoyed the video.

[@khtractors]

That means a ton! Thank you so much!

[@harlonlantz4094]

Great video Ben.That sure was a steep hill,the 245 pulled the hill without any problems.I wouldn't worry about what other people say, you have been around tractors all your life and you know what you are doing.Take care my friend,be safe and have a blessed and beautiful day.🚜👍👏❤️🙏

[@khtractors]

Thanks Harlon, hope all is well!

[@mikedobson2988]

Nice work Ben, I've been on some steep ones myself, on tracks and tires. Best advice like said, know your machine, experience and don't panic.

[@khtractors]

Yes good advice! Thanks for sharing!

[@rtundlt1]

Ben you are correct that many, if not most people do not know how to “operate “ a tractor. These lightweight compact tractors have their place but they are no match at all for a purpose built agricultural utility tractor. I would dare say your 245 will outweigh and out work nearly any compact 4 wheel drive out there. The weight and low center of gravity along with the range of gearing in your 8 speed gearbox make any of those 200 series Masseys ideal the work you do with it. I’m my opinion, and that’s not worth much I know, any of the Masseys from the old 35 up through the 135/150 and on up to the 245-255 tractors and the Ford 2000/3000 and 4000SU are perfect for any farm in the 50 acre and under category. I enjoy your videos like this and always admire your skill and the respect you show the tractor while you operate them.

[@khtractors]

Thank you so much! I really enjoyed the comment and agree with you on that selection of tractors!

[@joutdoorsmen23]

Awesome Ben, you’re knowledge and experience really shows in your videos of operating tractors and as a matter of fact everything you’re doing and yes i agree with you about a lot people on KZbin really don’t understand how to operate tractors and I’m glad they have all safety equipment on there tractors, God Bless

[@khtractors]

Thanks so much!!

[@RCAFpolarexpress]

My Friend You Are The Best Tractor Driver Living On The Edge Of Gravity 👍😇👌Ouff that soil contains a lots of rocks 🥴Cheers 🍻

[@khtractors]

Yes lots of rock! Hopefully it will eventually grow grass. I’ll put some hay down over it this week. Thanks for watching

[@robertstewart5838]

Good afternoon Ben! Been watching your channel for awhile through all the seasons of the year. You grew up in the area and know the land and the equipment that you are working with. Your people there have worked two wheel drive equipment for ages. I know from watching your videos that the MF 245 is set up with proper ballast and weight balance for the jobs that you do and your experience through the years of running that tractor. I consider you a master at skillfully operating your equipment. Just my 2 cents. Love your videos!

[@khtractors]

Thank you so much!

[@careyward3405]

You are the man!! I wish I had 1/4 of your experience! You always do a fantastic job!

[@khtractors]

I appreciate that!

[@km4fsi827]

Its the same way around here, don't panic and hold her straight! Looks good.

[@khtractors]

Yes sir! Thanks for watching

[@markpowell762]

I kept the backside of our pond dam mowed with a bush hog behind our MF 235 for quite a few years. I always went downhill only & minimized my turning & didn't touch the clutch until I got to the bottom. Sometimes you gotta do what ya gotta do 😉 😁

[@markpowell762]

Nice job Ben!

[@khtractors]

Thank you!!

[@markpowell762]

Skipping down the hill a few times like that can definitely get heart rate up 😅. But just as said, you have to stay calm. ​​@khtractors

[@Chris-tc8ox]

Your right most people think they know how to run equipment and want to judge every one else experience makes all the difference things can still go very wrong but you can't panic only thing I would mention is would a chain drag been any better and I also understand use what you have lol

[@khtractors]

Yeah I just scratched the surface, didn’t let the tiller all the way down. A good aggressive drag would be nice. Thanks for watching

[@MitchellPack-zw4vu]

Great advice Ben, I have a bar on my Kubota but even then I still try to have a plan, if something goes wrong. As I have stated about you before, you always take your time and don’t rush a job.

[@khtractors]

Thank you very much!

[@botabob]

A little known fact about farmers. They collect rocks as a hobby. Enjoy The Journey - Cheers

[@khtractors]

Bob there is no shortage of rocks here! Thanks for watching

[@LesFermeduQuebec-]

Hi Ben Another Great Vidéo and that Massey still at the work they are the best No Électronic just Mécanic that's the best thanks for the Vidéo and Have a Nice Day Ben . Dave 🙂

[@khtractors]

Yes sir! Thank you!

[@RobertBrothersJr-dc7nr]

You know how to operate the Massey and feel comfortable about your ability to operate it on steep slopes. I know what you mean I have had my 8N Ford for 44 years and have the same confidence operating it. I grew up on tractors as you did and was taught and learned how to be a safe cautious operator. Those tractors didn’t have the safety features that today’s tractors do. Over grew up being careful and having respect for what could happen. Great video Ben. Thanks

[@khtractors]

I think not having the safety features makes you think more about the process. Yes it’s not as safe but by knowing that you more aware of the what if’s, no false sense of security. Thanks for watching

[@stephenneat4277]

I know you have talked in past videos about how that 245 is heavier than most normal 245’s. With a few extra weights on the front it would be a beast on hills.

[@khtractors]

Yeah it needs some extra front weight or maybe just fluid filled front tires. Thanks for watching

[@David-rl3uk]

Person has to own and run a 200 series massey to fully appreciate thier stability and predictability. Great video, late wife and I did a similar slope facing southward, which triggered me to ask if folks there ever seed out oats heavy with the grass seed, obviously to let the oats have there head start and then mow them as if there grass until fall. Like getting semi shade for the lawn and picking up green manure?

[@khtractors]

We have done that in the past. Thanks for watching

[@andrewanderson1436]

Well the hillside looks good now. That dirt sure got hard set in quickly. Didn't look like that tiller was hurting it much. Should look good when the grass comes in.

[@khtractors]

I was just barely skimming it with the tiller, I didn’t let it all the way down. Thanks for watching

[@bw3368]

Looks good it's the same way around here. It's not real flat so we learned from a early age how to operate equipment and what we could and couldn't do with it. Back when I first started running tractors we didn't own one that had a roll over bar. But if you have been on one long enough you pretty much know what it can and can't do great videos buddy

[@khtractors]

Yeah you learn it, things can still happen though. Having a plan and knowing what might happen is worth keeping in your mind. Thanks for watching

[@bw3368]

Yes you always have to have a plan of action if something was to happen. And always expect for something to change at anytime

[@loggerjohn01]

It's whatever you are comfortable with buddy. It likely wouldn't hurt to throw a few weights on the front of it. I feel pretty safe on my old Massey hauling logs out of the bush. But things can happen fast. Take care

[@khtractors]

Yeah they can. I should fluid fill the front tires probably. Thanks for watching

[@joeyrector1015]

If you ask me. You done a great job. I wouldn't have done that myself. But I don't have as much experience as you do

[@khtractors]

Thank you!!

[@joeyrector1015]

@@khtractors you're welcome

[@Dan-qy1rg]

I hear what you're saying about people's comments. I'm sure they mean well and are only thinking of your best interest. I think you did just fine and looked like you had everything under control. Thanks and have a great week.

[@khtractors]

Some do mean well but some are pretty aggressive. Thanks for watching

[@Dan-qy1rg]

@@khtractors Yeah, I know what you're saying, have some replies to comments on other subs that was negative. Too bad for them, a lot of negativity out there.

[@raywhite1442]

Holbrook's Kubota in Campton ky has a mx 111 cob tractor with 0% financing I think

[@alfredstaude3955]

Hi, ... more Time on a Tractor as on YT... That`s great! Good Work. Best Regards, Alfred

[@khtractors]

Thank you!

[@raywhite1442]

Holbrook's in Campton ky.

[@crpfarm7011]

Them old two wheel drive Ferguson kept a lot of ground clean that is now growing up today

[@khtractors]

You’re exactly correct! Thanks for watching

[@ralphkanagy4602]

Nice. Video

[@khtractors]

Appreciate that!

[@whommee]

Good job. You know we are now living in an age where most folks can not operate a piece of equipment , no experience, or no common sense. Maybe a generation or two had no desire to learn, became "soft", or maybe we failed as teachers to teach them.. It would do a lot of these KZbinrs good to watch you and maybe learn something about respecting the situation you may be in and respecting the piece of equipment.

[@khtractors]

I really appreciate this comment! Take care!

[@ro-yg8km]

When you have a place to land it's not bad but when you don't that's a different story.

[@khtractors]

Yes I agree 100%! Thanks for watching

[@Pat2317]

I feel ya on the picking rocks. Haha I think they grow pretty good up our way too! Sound advice on your tractor. Don’t panic, have a plan, and have a place picked out to land the thing if she takes off sliding. Great video!

[@khtractors]

Rocks here grow better than weeds! Thanks for watching

[@rcguy18]

Impressive handling on clutched tractor. Dang sure some hard ground ur tilling.

[@khtractors]

Hard and rock mixed in! Thanks for watching

[@bradphillips1588]

There’s no denying your operator skill, but I think us mountain people got a little crazy in us too. 😂

[@ABMFARM]

There ain't no denying the crazy we definitely got it too! we just hate to admit it.

[@khtractors]

Yeah I’d agree with that! Thanks for watching

[@ABMFARM]

Good Video Ben, as a side note, Black RTV sealant makes good gaskets on those tillers LOL... I have already done both sides of mine because of the beating up ground like that over and over ... Again Great Video. By the way this was not that scary of a tractor video, the videos of those guys across the pond driving those tractors on two wheels pulling those sugar cane wagons and flipping backwards... and climbing and digging out from under the tractor and the wagon ....now that is scary to watch...

[@khtractors]

Yeah some of those guys are crazy, probably pulling 100 tons with a tractor this size. I love watching them videos. Thanks for watching buddy!

[@willardnicholson8026]

Looked fun great video buddy 👍

[@khtractors]

Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks

[@jonlangille918]

How do you find the gearing on that combination. I am using a maschio tiller with my mf 135. I feel the gearing isn't the best #1 on the 6 speed at pto speed seems to be have too fast a ground speed to chew up the ground. Any thoughts would be appreciated.

[@khtractors]

I use 2nd gear low usually but this is an 8 speed with 24” rear wheels. I can’t remember what gear I used with the 135. Thanks for watching

[@GreenMtnTractor]

Braver man than I lol. That’s just part of living in the mountains though. Enjoyed the video Ben.

[@khtractors]

Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks

[@eckythump6429]

Coming down that hill with a forward spinning tiller was a brave choice. Gotta do what you gotta do with the kit you have. You’re a big boy and can make your own decisions. Too many arm chair experts in the KZbin comments sections 😊

[@khtractors]

Yeah the tiller definitely pushes you down a hill. But I had a good stopping spot. Coulda used the 4 wheel drive tractor but what’s the fun in that. Thanks for watching

[@codymccauly349]

Hi ❤

[@joeystidham1580]

Looks like fun ride what is the reason for titering the hill

[@khtractors]

To sow grass seed! Thanks for watching

[@raywhite1442]

Me again and that is a m5111

[@outdoorswithlarryrobin]

Hello Ben, Ridem cowboy😂🇺🇸

[@khtractors]

😂😂 Thanks Larry!

[@jda1961]

now see, we don't need no stinkin rollbars or 4wheel drive tractors, tractors did not come with those fancy things when i was younger, and the karens would scream thier panties off if they watched where i raked and baled hay in these west virginia hills.and what you are doing is perfectly safe, short steep place with a flat longer bottom, as far as going straight up, the tiller will keep tractor from coming up on you, like a wheely bar. so karens just shut it,

[@khtractors]

You get it! Thanks for watching

[@ABMFARM]

There is no down pressure on the tiller with this tractor, so it will not stop him from flipping backwards, if it wanted to. It was just plain ole knowing how steep he could take the tractor up and keeping the tiller on the ground and not overweighting the rear end...

[@tucksmith8300]

I know that ground is tough where you’re at

[@khtractors]

Yeah it sure is! Thanks for watching

[@raywhite1442]

And I still don't have any idea what year this video was done in

[@khtractors]

If I was guessing this year most likely! Thanks for watching

[@bennykennedy1786]

April 2024

[@codymccauly349]

Good morning how are you doing today ok oh ❤

[@khtractors]

Good!

[@codymccauly349]

@@khtractors how come are you not posting anything on video ok

[@khtractors]

@@codymccauly349 I just haven’t had time to do anything recently.

[@codymccauly349]

@@khtractors ok I'm sorry ok

[@khtractors]

@@codymccauly349 I appreciate you checking though.

[@raywhite1442]

Ben you don't have to tell me why you don't have to worry about driving your tractor you are like my father well he's gone now but he didn't see any danger in anything

[@khtractors]

Thank you!!

[@TNYankee2020]

Get R Done.

[@khtractors]

Thanks for watching!

[@raywhite1442]

Just because I'm a chicken don't mean everyone has to be

[@allenduff1597]

B-B-B!

[@codymccauly349]

Hi

[@khtractors]

Hey Cody!

[@codymccauly349]

@@khtractors I am trying to watch a video but I got back in Action up herebok

[@codymccauly349]

@@khtractors I am trying about your video but I got bad connection up here ok

[@codymccauly349]

@@khtractors hey khtractors

[@codymccauly349]

@@khtractors hi

[@roycebraman4311]

I would call this stupid, not because you were being dangerous, and, you really seem to know how to operate on the sides of the hills, what was stupid is you have other options, you had no reason to even put yourself into a possible problematic situation, endangering yourself and your family. Sound judgement is to survive as long as possible, that is where experience comes into play, so you can pass on your knowledge, Not to pass on knowledge by example, ie... "don't do what I did to kill yourself".

[@khtractors]

I get what you’re saying. But regardless of a video on KZbin or not it would have still been done with this Massey. Thanks for watching!