IS THIS TANK WORTH IT IN 2024???

[@garyd4804]

The armor on the T-57 is far superior, its very troll as well. The 50B is complete paper

[@MichaelHTaylor08]

T57 armor is actually pretty good especially on the turret after it got buffed.

[@scottsacoustica4792]

Yeah, T57 armor is a leeeeetle better but not enough to make a huge difference. The biggest thing is having to hit all 4 shots to get the 1520 damage per drum vs 1200 damage per 3 shots from the T57. 50B has a better ability to get out of trouble faster but I play both second line, so it doesn't matter as much.

[@ChellPatrascan]

Both tanks struggle against skilled opponents. Both tanks have the same playstyle. You will NOT bounce shells in the T57 heavy, hull down or otherwise. You will get HEd in the side in the amx 50b. Keep away from actual fire and only poke to shoot when you're certain you won't bleed HP. You know what other tanks have this playstyle? MEDIUMS AND LIGHTS. Just get one of those and if you want a real heavy, grind the Maus, 60tp, E100 or IS 7.

[@HenAnt]

Those autoloading meds don't have nearly as much turret armor, HP, and especially pen, also the 57 Turret is still good and trollish against gold shells, you seem to forget that Autoloaders literally counter skilled players by being super punishing in nature. Anyone who's remotely good at the game also knows both the 57 and AMX 50 B can crush most Meds and Heavs if played correctly, if the Strv K can find a place in the meta those two tanks will too, True Heavy tank players dread trying to play against competent players in those tanks.

[@ChellPatrascan]

@@HenAnt lol what, who the hell feels dread at the thought of a t57 heavy or amx 50b? When I'm playing in the maus, I'm scared of tank destroyers like the jag or 183, because i know they actually have the pen needed to eat me regardless of the angle i put my tank in. I am NOT scared of dumbass "heavy" autoloaders that will bounce every shot on my lower plate or turret cheeks (happens every time). An exception is the Kranvagn, which idk why you'd ever play any other heavy autoloader when that thing exists. Literally does everything the t57 heavy does but better. One of the best tanks in the game, even competitive. Have you ever seen a 50b or 57 in tournaments? Me neither, because they're awful as heavies and most solid players just play the bat chat and kran instead if they want a punishing autoloader. So what if you have HP? you're a heavy with no armor (no, t57 does not have armor, you can pen the turret with Maus AP and that is very sad) so obviously the HP will get eaten the moment you peak to dump your clip. And no, the difference in pen is negligible because they have bad pen for heavies anyway (see: bouncing lower plate on maus). And how are they good at "punishing skilled players"? They can be a pain if you just yolo in without regards of what can shoot you or if you literally are unable to read the damn lineup of the enemy team, see an autoloader and think "okay shouldn't go and rush or i might get clipped". Like, I'm sitting here flabbergasted because you consider yourself a good player but manage to get clipped by heavies 😭 like i understand getting clipped by the TVP or bat chat or like, hull down Kran or something but t57 and 50b? 💀 ☠️ 💀 ☠️

[@HenAnt]

@@ChellPatrascan Lol you never played against a competent 57 nor 50 B player and it shows 🗿 Yes, in Asia and sometimes in EU they're being used, Kran is great rn but it's slow as a slug and relies too much not getting pushed, both the 57 and 50 B are far more flexible and have more carrying potential in Pubs and Ratings. Also, what's the point of using tournament usage for your argument? Mino, E100, and Super Conqueror are amongst the best tanks in the Meta rn, yet seldomly seen in Comp, the 57 and AMX 50 B are in the middle of the pack as far as winrate is concerned across the board, even low winrate players do well in it, and funny how you're completely ignoring their capabilities when you drive one of the most brain dead tanks in the game lmao, ofc you're afraid of TD pen in Maus. Yes, 57 has armor and both have HP, it matters, having 400 to 800 more HP than Mediums especially in Autoloaders, it matters, having more Heat Pen and Alpha, especially with Calibrated, it matters. Lol, calling yourself good while playing the Maus is laughable, I don't yolo nor play super aggressively, however it doesn't matter, a good 57 and 50 B player will always find a good opportunity to clip your Maus, same as why people hate fighting good fv 4005 players, not everyone is a dumbass relying on the Maus to bounce shots 🤡

[@ChellPatrascan]

@@HenAnt okay you're actually mentally disabled if you think maus is a no brain tank and it completely discredits any argument you have, especially after saying "even low winrate players do well in T57 and amx 50b". Also, no it doesn't matter. On a heavy, the armor and holding/pushing potential matters. T57 and amx 50b have neither. I'd like to see you try holding against a "no brain maus" or an E100. Kran can do that, and ofc you can push it, but I'd like to see you push me and get obliterated by every other teammate around me. Bro you literally said those tanks are mid. "Middle of the pack" and you didn't even try debating any of the points i made, because you know I'm right. And of course, me in my 4k games never played against a "competent" t57 or 50b player. Bro, you're just trying to cope grinding tanks that aren't worth grinding for. Touch green plant

[@HenAnt]

@@ChellPatrascan Lmao, a tank with more armor than the rest of the British Tech tree combined, 3k HP, 2.7k DPM, and a decent gun, followed by having the highest winrate in every single tier 10 tank all across the board with the exception of 65%+ Winrate players, is every bit a dummy tank as you are a dumbass lol. And they also have anti pushing potential, that's literally why they're good, Kran cannot push unless it's winning the flank, the 57 and 50B does at will and can get away with it, Kran is better rn as a Tourney tank as it can rely on its supporting tanks to back it up, 57 and 50 B does not rely too much on teammates. Lmao, all across the board, bad players do well with it, however it seems like you lack any intellect to think for yourself so let's take a look at the stats again, it shows that both tanks are well within the middle winrate territory in RELATIVE WINRATE, all brackets except the 65%+ winrate players that only exclusively use the FV215b, IS7, E100, Chief, VK 72, and E5. But being in the middle relative winrate isn't exactly "mid", it just means you're at a point where you break positive. The 57 and AMX 50 B, relatively speaking, are better than 60% of the Heavy tank roster by breaking beyond positives, you want to know the no.1? Maus by a 5% margin, yes, really fcking hard tank to play 😂🤡

[@AL-TAYEB-y8d]

U forgot about turret troll armor.. That alone make it better in many positions

[@ayushman42069]

it used to be your favourite

[@Ketty_Woo]

But shooting 3 shell is easier than shooting 4 shell right 😅

[@Aless6996]

For me it's still worth it.

[@MaoZedowner]

dude doesnt even use intraclip boost and use the turret armor and says 50b is better when 50b is one of the largest dinky unarmored mediums in the game so hard to hide and slow for a med

[@kelvisshandei]

A ,,Medium" with alot of HP. And 4 Shells for only 2 sec.longer relaod time. And it s still faster then the most heavys. So it has His points

[@ilikeswedishmeatballs]

@@kelvisshandeibut when you go against meds that can play decently, you end up getting clapped after dumping your clip. i think there is a good reason why i don’t go up against amx 50b players often on the red team

[@yashwantsingh8141]

Bad pen

[@user-noelismywife]

t57 is easy to deal 4k