Is this the best small jointer/planer?

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RotarySMP

RotarySMP

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@martinu2725
@martinu2725 2 жыл бұрын
That fence certainly feels like a casting project in the future
@RotarySMP
@RotarySMP 2 жыл бұрын
I considered it now but decided to make the "temporary solution". :/
@RotarySMP
@RotarySMP 2 жыл бұрын
...for now!
@bernhard_derProtoTyp
@bernhard_derProtoTyp 2 жыл бұрын
I can borrow you the original if you want to use it as a master/template. Got the same machine at my workshop. Basically never use it and the motor overheats very quickly and the belt thing is just a stupid frustrating construction. Great Ideas with the stepper though! 🤔👍 I also still got the original dust extraction cover thingies if you need inspiration.
@dermozart80
@dermozart80 2 жыл бұрын
Yeaaaah!!! More casting videos!!!! Love those
@NavinBetamax
@NavinBetamax 2 жыл бұрын
@@bernhard_derProtoTyp ....borrow....???....Lend.....Loan.....??!!!
@UncySpam
@UncySpam 2 жыл бұрын
You know you’ve been hanging around too long when you recognize the piece of scrap he pulled out and can remember which episode it came from 🤣
@RotarySMP
@RotarySMP 2 жыл бұрын
:) Good call!
@AntonyBrotherton
@AntonyBrotherton 2 жыл бұрын
Perfectly dimensioned firewood stacks neatly😂
@RotarySMP
@RotarySMP 2 жыл бұрын
And is still cheaper than everything else this winter. :)
@JoseSilveira-newhandleforYT
@JoseSilveira-newhandleforYT 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this woodworking special 🙂 I knew there was something wrong with my firewood - now I need to get a thickness planer 🙂
@RotarySMP
@RotarySMP 2 жыл бұрын
Given the price of energy, precise firewood will look cheap :)
@JoseSilveira-newhandleforYT
@JoseSilveira-newhandleforYT 2 жыл бұрын
@@RotarySMP Absolutely! Another score for the planer 🙂
@Handskemager
@Handskemager 2 жыл бұрын
I literally laughed out loud when you threw the wood into the furnace! Ty that made my evening alot better!
@RotarySMP
@RotarySMP 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you stayed till the end :)
@millwrightrick1
@millwrightrick1 2 жыл бұрын
I used to repair those belts regularly. I still have the tool. You can get the belting with a hollow core and use little barbed pins as connectors. They work really well.
@RotarySMP
@RotarySMP 2 жыл бұрын
That is good to know. The third attempt came out really well.
@RambozoClown
@RambozoClown 2 жыл бұрын
I have a friend that was a packaging machine tech. He had some gizmo that melted them together like you did, but it made a strong joint. It was brass and built around what looked like an antique sheet metal soldering iron.
@RotarySMP
@RotarySMP 2 жыл бұрын
@@RambozoClown Thanks. I think that Aluminium as heat sink is not really helping. Although when it did the third one, really fast, it worked well.
@weaselbread
@weaselbread 2 жыл бұрын
I find those barbed connectors are no good for small pulleys. They struggle to go round the bend and cut through the belt
@RotarySMP
@RotarySMP 2 жыл бұрын
@@weaselbread Good to know. Thanks.
@vincei4252
@vincei4252 2 жыл бұрын
0:37 I like that is uses 0KW. Very green. Great Swiss attention to detail right there. It's so good it doen't need anywhere as much cleaning effort as that other name plate that will remain nameless. :)
@RotarySMP
@RotarySMP 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I noticed that as well. Inca quality control was off sick that day. :)
@WoLpH
@WoLpH 2 жыл бұрын
That's the best looking firewood I've seen in a long time!
@RotarySMP
@RotarySMP 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Given energy prices, I could probably burn Ebony cheaper than anything else this year.
@squelchstuff
@squelchstuff 2 жыл бұрын
Next week. Mark upgrades the Inca with a DRO, and conveyer for the ultimately precise and easy firewood maker... Thanks for the anecdote about the Queen btw. We are hearing so many humorous stories about her.
@RotarySMP
@RotarySMP 2 жыл бұрын
I am a little surprised that the Inca doesnt have a vernier scale for setting the thickness. It seems accurate enough to warrant it.
@lumotroph
@lumotroph 2 жыл бұрын
Great video as always, and good choice on the music! Really enjoyable this time.
@RotarySMP
@RotarySMP 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for the feedback.
@jster1963
@jster1963 2 жыл бұрын
I missed this one. I would have LOVED to have met the Queen!! Great video and machine.....
@RotarySMP
@RotarySMP 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jasper. It is a nice addition to the wood shop. Really opens up using raw timber. We are in Calif till Friday, and then Milwaukee over the weekend, and Chicago Mo, Tu before flying back to Vienna. Shame you left Chicago :)
@jster1963
@jster1963 2 жыл бұрын
@@RotarySMP I hope you're having a great time in the states! Sooooo close to my stamping grounds. Chicago is too expensive for a retired man, LOL. I hope you get back over here again......
@RotarySMP
@RotarySMP 2 жыл бұрын
@@jster1963 Amazing amount of aviation here in S.D. The Blue Angels were practicing over the city today for the Mirimar airshow this weekend.
@syabelman696
@syabelman696 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. I upgraded the planer feed drive on one of my 2 Inca jointer planers. It was pretty easy to do myself (as a novice) and has worked flawlessly for the last year and a half. Plus you get fully variable speed instead of the standard too fast and semi-slow
@RotarySMP
@RotarySMP 2 жыл бұрын
I will probably also do that mod, but there are a number of projects with higher priority before I get to it.
@gregwmanning
@gregwmanning 2 жыл бұрын
Your most welcome, do enjoy, all the best
@RotarySMP
@RotarySMP 2 жыл бұрын
You as well.
@syf13
@syf13 2 жыл бұрын
Nice edit to the intro, very smooth. Congrats on the Inca find!
@RotarySMP
@RotarySMP 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it! Thanks for the feedback.
@johnlemmey7698
@johnlemmey7698 2 жыл бұрын
O i wondered why my fire wasn't working properly. Not on the square. Thanks for the tip
@RotarySMP
@RotarySMP 2 жыл бұрын
Glad I could help
@MikelNaUsaCom
@MikelNaUsaCom 2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful new tool... one of the best use of time seems to be learning your new tools. I'm glad there is an internet to share these experiences with others. Think of all the knowledge and experience that has been lost or only been passed from parent to child in the past. Not much of this stuff is placed in books or stored in other ways to be shared with new tool owners. Happy Sunday!
@RotarySMP
@RotarySMP 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks 👍 I feel the same way. The reviews guys do on old machines are really helpful, as they are normally not a sales job, and talk of both strengths and weaknesses.
@alexscarbro796
@alexscarbro796 2 жыл бұрын
Years ago I used a block with a V shaped notch that the belt laid in. Made alignment easy and you could inspect the joint as the glue was curing.
@RotarySMP
@RotarySMP 2 жыл бұрын
Good idea. The aluminium block is such a heat sink, you have no second for adjustment.
@paulwomack5866
@paulwomack5866 2 жыл бұрын
@@RotarySMP A V-block, with a gap cut (drilled?) in the middle would align the two pieces of belt without touching them at the joint. A continuous V-block is going to be a bit of a heat-sink, and will not align correctly due to the flash around the joint.
@RotarySMP
@RotarySMP 2 жыл бұрын
@@paulwomack5866 True. I will try playing around with a couple of machinist V blocks next time I need to repair it. The third attempt worked really well though.
@robertsteinwandel6658
@robertsteinwandel6658 2 жыл бұрын
The twist was fantastic hahaha, that’s great glad it works for you
@RotarySMP
@RotarySMP 2 жыл бұрын
Me too!! Thanks for hanging through to the end.
@robertsteinwandel6658
@robertsteinwandel6658 2 жыл бұрын
@@RotarySMP I always do! Haha
@RotarySMP
@RotarySMP 2 жыл бұрын
@@robertsteinwandel6658 You are making great progress on both the lathe and the videos. I like the dry humor you are inserting. Keep it up.
@robertsteinwandel6658
@robertsteinwandel6658 2 жыл бұрын
@@RotarySMP thanks a ton I really appreciate it! Having a ton of fun with it so far
@LunchThyme
@LunchThyme Жыл бұрын
Scored one of those Emco 6 in 1 machines off a mate a few years back. Amazing what you can get done on even a tiny machine.
@RotarySMP
@RotarySMP Жыл бұрын
One of my workmates has an EmcoStar as well, and swears by it.
@bkoholliston
@bkoholliston 2 жыл бұрын
I have an Inca bandsaw that I bought new in the 80's and I love it. I always wanted the Inca jointer planer combo but the price was too high at the time (so I ended up with two machines 6" jointer/12" planer). Congratulations on a great find! They are quality machines. BTW, when you are jointing you want most of the pressure on the out feed table. If you can lock the height adjustment on the planer, that will help with the snipe, but snipe is a common problem to a greater or lesser extent on all planers. Some people use a large radius, short, round fence for ripping thick (resawing) parts. If you pencil in a line, you can just follow it pivoting the board against the rounded fence since every bandsaw has a different "drift". Search for "Kreg 4-1/2" Resaw Guide" for an example, but you could make it easily.
@RotarySMP
@RotarySMP 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tip on the resawing fence. I need to look for that thicknesser height lock.The system is pretty rigid even unlocked I got lucky with this one. Because the drive system was not working reliably, the seller only wanted €300 for it. Inca made really nice stuff.
@dekleinebozewolf
@dekleinebozewolf 2 жыл бұрын
That end just breaks my heart
@RotarySMP
@RotarySMP 2 жыл бұрын
Precision wood is still cheaper than gas this year. :)
@The_Unobtainium
@The_Unobtainium Жыл бұрын
1983 Mafell joiter/planner is pretty similar to this one. These old school machines are just awsome!
@RotarySMP
@RotarySMP Жыл бұрын
Yeah, these things are a dream to use.
@paulwomack5866
@paulwomack5866 2 жыл бұрын
Couple of woodworking tips: 1) Always cut the stock roughly to size before flattening/straightening. If you try to square up a large piece you'll lose much more waste (or it might even be impossible). 2) When ripping, find out which direction the blade wants to drift in (they normally drift, even good ones), and align your fence parallel to this direction. You can also use a "single point" ripping fence which doesn't really have a direction, but is a little harder to use.
@arthurjohnson3438
@arthurjohnson3438 2 жыл бұрын
yes to the single point
@RotarySMP
@RotarySMP 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tips, Paul. I am still in wood work kindegarten, and with all the playing around with Inca and bandsaw, I am rapidly turning all that left over cherry into sawdust. :)
@NavinBetamax
@NavinBetamax 2 жыл бұрын
@@RotarySMP ...and the Beer Helps !
@jimurrata6785
@jimurrata6785 2 жыл бұрын
I considered pointing these out as well as saying that when flattening to always have the bow up. (Noticed when Mark started that the wood passed well over the blades before engaging the cutterhead) But it seemed that he was getting a nice even rip with his new blade, and I'm not one to criticize unless it's something dangerous. A single point fence is much like using a cylindrical square, set with the blade teeth tangent to it. You can adjust your approach angle, and once cutting straight simply mark the table with a Sharpie rather than having to adjust a straight fence to that angle.
@RotarySMP
@RotarySMP 2 жыл бұрын
@@jimurrata6785 Good points. Since that test piece was short, I didn't look at which way it bowed. My bad. Those single point fences seem like a good future project. Pretty low on my project list right now though.
@jimurrata6785
@jimurrata6785 2 жыл бұрын
Ohhhh. Inca were the stuff of my young woodworking dreams in the late '70's - early '80's. Much like Sinctillia and your Shaublin, Swiss made was a full step above even the German tools that were so romanticized here in the States. (I ended up with a Makita combo jointer/planer back then)
@RotarySMP
@RotarySMP 2 жыл бұрын
It was certainly nicely made. I wonder what they spent for the castings dies? Would not have been cheap.
@Stefan_Van_pellicom
@Stefan_Van_pellicom Жыл бұрын
19:13 You’re gonne get hurt like this. It’s good practice to fold that protector out of your way for the planing. It’s there for when you’re NOT planing.
@RotarySMP
@RotarySMP Жыл бұрын
If that were the case, why the complicated parallelogram mechanism, to allow coverage of all bit a gap? Edit, I answered this on my phone. Just took a look at the time stamp you included, and I see what you mean. I dont normally do that. That is dumb! Thanks.
@Poppop-el3jc
@Poppop-el3jc 2 жыл бұрын
Good Job Son Good Job Awesome compact fire wood processor to keep the shop warm and toasty
@RotarySMP
@RotarySMP 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it.
@JesseSchoch
@JesseSchoch 2 жыл бұрын
for bandsaw resawing you can use a table saw to cut top/bottom and finish with the bandsaw. This helps avoid binding, the tree and how it grew determines how crooked they end up.
@RotarySMP
@RotarySMP 2 жыл бұрын
Good idea. I am pretty happy with how straight the DoAll cuts with the 3TPI blade. Once I got the hang of it.
@JesseSchoch
@JesseSchoch 2 жыл бұрын
@@RotarySMPA real resaw blade is very wide (search 'wadkin resaw power feed' to see one). The table saw method works well on the type of blade you have. the table saw kerf tends to keep the bandsaw blade in the cut but you have to take the time to setup your fence on the bandsaw to ensure the back of the bandsaw is perfectly centered in the kerf and this changes with tension and different blades (welds being different)
@RotarySMP
@RotarySMP 2 жыл бұрын
@@JesseSchoch Unfortunately I only have the single set of 1/2" blade guides. I do have a stick of 1.2842 (O2 tool steel) to mill up additional guides, for both thinner and thicker blades, but the pending project list is long.
@Andrew_Fernie
@Andrew_Fernie 2 жыл бұрын
If you use a nitrile belt you can just scarfe and super glue it. I have one on my toy wood lathe that was a cut-down long belt and glued together in an 'emergency' and it surprisingly never failed.
@RotarySMP
@RotarySMP 2 жыл бұрын
Good to know. I think I got the hang of this now.
@Z0mb13ta11ahase
@Z0mb13ta11ahase Жыл бұрын
Just snagged one of these thanks for the info!
@RotarySMP
@RotarySMP 11 ай бұрын
They are really nice jointers. I had to redo the planer feed mechanism, and still haven't got that working as well as I would like.
@AMillionInAOne
@AMillionInAOne 2 жыл бұрын
You have to admit, dimensionally perfect fire wood stacks nicely.
@RotarySMP
@RotarySMP 2 жыл бұрын
Good point.
@JCWren
@JCWren 2 жыл бұрын
The articulated arm on the planer may have been built by the Swiss, but it was designed by a German. You can tell because it's elegant yet complicated.
@RotarySMP
@RotarySMP 2 жыл бұрын
:)
@_Hanover_
@_Hanover_ 2 жыл бұрын
No only precision firewood but precision tinder also!
@RotarySMP
@RotarySMP 2 жыл бұрын
Very true. And this thing makes mountains of it.
@ADRIAAN1007
@ADRIAAN1007 2 жыл бұрын
Sweet a proper planer/jointer is one of those tools that gives you so much more freedom when choosing lumber
@RotarySMP
@RotarySMP 2 жыл бұрын
It really opens up the sources of wood. Dimensional timber availablity here is pretty tragic. Knotty pine, or beech glued together from small scraps.
@akfarmboy49
@akfarmboy49 2 жыл бұрын
Funny you mentioned NZ Air Force. Good friend of mine spent time there. I know NZ well because of 16 seasons in Antarctica.
@RotarySMP
@RotarySMP 2 жыл бұрын
I never got to Antarctica. Heard it was a really interesting posting.
@akfarmboy49
@akfarmboy49 2 жыл бұрын
@@RotarySMP I was a machinist in McMurdo years ago for a year. Now I am in building and designing equipment to use in Antarctica.
@LyallPearce
@LyallPearce 2 жыл бұрын
Final comment - totally unexpected - loved it. :)
@RotarySMP
@RotarySMP 2 жыл бұрын
:) Thanks for watching to the end.
@MarionMakarewicz
@MarionMakarewicz 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you have your priorities right with that Patreon $$$. Booze first, then tools.
@RotarySMP
@RotarySMP 2 жыл бұрын
I hope all the Patreons are okay with the joke :)
@RRINTHESHOP
@RRINTHESHOP 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent machine. I have 3 Inca machines. Nice review.
@RotarySMP
@RotarySMP 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for dropping by Randy. They are really well made machines, apart from that infeed drive.
@RRINTHESHOP
@RRINTHESHOP 2 жыл бұрын
@@RotarySMP I have a 10 cabinet table saw with mortice attachment, 8 in jointer and 20 in bandsaw. I bought them new in the mid 80's, all are very well made and have stood the test of time and heavy use. Yes that infeed drive seems to be a weak point but fixable/upgradable I think.
@jimurrata6785
@jimurrata6785 2 жыл бұрын
@@RRINTHESHOP One could hob a new high speed gear in a simple setup if they had a die matching the worm shaft....
@geordiecs
@geordiecs 2 жыл бұрын
Firewood bit about did me in Does your big band saw have a fence? I rip my last edge to width on a table saw or band saw and clean it up on the jointer, with one of my true faces up against the fence. Those big long rip cuts are tedious no matter which way you slice it, by hand or band. I’m trying to dream up an unsolicited chip collection scheme, but a crazy big shroud with a blower motor seems like a nightmare
@RotarySMP
@RotarySMP 2 жыл бұрын
:) glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for staying till the end. I dont have a fence for the DoAll. It is on my to do list, but pretty far down. Same with chip control. I use my little cyclone on most machines, but this one would fill it in a couple of cuts.
@wolfgangbalu1253
@wolfgangbalu1253 2 жыл бұрын
Congrats for thr machine, old but top quality. Ballistol Holzgleitspray will help you to feed the wood easier.
@RotarySMP
@RotarySMP 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tip! So far I have used wax.
@TheKnacklersWorkshop
@TheKnacklersWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
Hello Mark, Nice machine... I have been looking for the EMCO Star one... Cheers. Paul,,
@RotarySMP
@RotarySMP 2 жыл бұрын
Do you mean the Emco B20, or is there a special one for the star?
@TheKnacklersWorkshop
@TheKnacklersWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
@@RotarySMP There is a small one that fits on the Emco Star... it is powered by the Emco star motor
@RotarySMP
@RotarySMP 2 жыл бұрын
Have you set up an alert on Willhaben.at?
@TheKnacklersWorkshop
@TheKnacklersWorkshop 2 жыл бұрын
@@RotarySMP That's new to me... I will now, thanks.
@TheKaptainKernow
@TheKaptainKernow 2 жыл бұрын
I've a couple of the Inca bandsaws. If you can find one of the bigger 3-wheel saws (500 iirc), grab it with both hands and don't let it go. It's a bench-top(ish) saw, but it's stiff enough to cut metal, and the 3-wheel design gives it a massive throat for it's size.
@RotarySMP
@RotarySMP 2 жыл бұрын
I guess I haven't really looked at them, as I already own the DoAll, which is a really nice saw.
@TrPrecisionMachining
@TrPrecisionMachining 2 жыл бұрын
good video RotarySMP
@RotarySMP
@RotarySMP 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching as always.
@julias-shed
@julias-shed 2 жыл бұрын
Nice to get a decent new tool. I use those belts on the watchmaking lathes you do have to get the metal pretty hot and push them together hard so it mushrooms back on itself. It usually stretches quite a bit too so make slightly short....
@RotarySMP
@RotarySMP 2 жыл бұрын
The third attempt (which I didn't film) came out really good. That aluminum is a bit too much of a heat sink, you have to be really fast.
@Chris-kk8xg
@Chris-kk8xg 2 жыл бұрын
precision firewood, brilliant!
@RotarySMP
@RotarySMP 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching till the end.
@jimsvideos7201
@jimsvideos7201 2 жыл бұрын
This was an adventure and a half!
@RotarySMP
@RotarySMP 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching it. It is a pretty cool machine.
@steamfan7147
@steamfan7147 2 жыл бұрын
This is another one of those Swiss machines where they did a brilliant job on most of it, but that feed mechanism what were they smoking?? 🤣🤣🤣
@RotarySMP
@RotarySMP 2 жыл бұрын
You put that well. That mechanism was a good example of "Any fool can design complicated, it takes genius to design simple"
@624Dudley
@624Dudley 2 жыл бұрын
I’m no expert, but that spider looks like the so-called “hunter” that appeared in my shirt sleeve during a visit to Queensland. It was very fast - it ran off at Warp 9, somewhere under the bed where my wife was still asleep. I chose not to inform her of this chance encounter, as there was really nothing I could do about it…
@RotarySMP
@RotarySMP 2 жыл бұрын
I once got bitten by an Aussie import white tail spider. Really sore bite, which caused an infection biscuit under the skin which had to be drained by a Dr. This one buggered off under the DoAll. As long it stays there and eats fly and mosquitos, we will get along :)
@mikevdwerf
@mikevdwerf 2 жыл бұрын
A good old Austrian woodworking trick is to but some diesel on the metal surfaces to keep them slippery without any negative effects on the wood and keep it from rusting 😅
@RotarySMP
@RotarySMP 2 жыл бұрын
thanks for the tip. I have been using wax. Also seems to work well.
@mitsubishigenetech
@mitsubishigenetech 9 ай бұрын
I'm using an elektra beckum at work that is pretty much the same construction. In my experience it doesn't even come close to the DW 1150. (nothing really does). Fortunately I've managed to get my hand on an Emco Star that's like new, still having every single attachment to the last screw. I would still give it away for that old Dewalt.
@RotarySMP
@RotarySMP 9 ай бұрын
My only comparison is one of those really cheap chinese thicknessers, and this is way better :)
@iTeerRex
@iTeerRex 2 жыл бұрын
Restoring high end tools are the best choice. Not only get something at a fraction of the cost, but also the fun of fixing it. Congrats 👍
@RotarySMP
@RotarySMP 2 жыл бұрын
Right on. Much nicer machine to work with than the Zipper.
@mazchen
@mazchen 2 жыл бұрын
6:11 or maybe it wasn't.... very nice machine by the way. When you start seeing rip outs in the wood's surface look out if you can get your hands on a fitting spiral cutter.
@RotarySMP
@RotarySMP 2 жыл бұрын
Those spiral carbide insert cutters looks really nice, but are quite pricey.
@jimurrata6785
@jimurrata6785 2 жыл бұрын
@@RotarySMP They also require a bit more power, so if this .7kV machine is marginal flatting wider boards you'll definitely stall it with a spiral head. With wavering grain there are going to be times you can't avoid feeding grain into the blade. Best practices are to look for direction at the adjacent side and feed like you would be making a climb cut into that grain direction. If you have a piece that just doesn't want to behave, dampening the surface to be cut with a wet rag often helps because those sheared open cells get filled with water supporting the cell walls being cut. Obviously not soaking wet, and don't leave an iron machine table damp. I cringed a little when you set that frosty beer down on the bandsaw....
@RotarySMP
@RotarySMP 2 жыл бұрын
@@jimurrata6785 This is a 1.4kW three phase motor. It seems to have plenty of power, as I have planer cherry up to about 160mm wide so far. Thanks for the tip on moistening the wood surface.
@jimurrata6785
@jimurrata6785 2 жыл бұрын
@@RotarySMP ~2 horsepower sounds a lot better for a spiral cutterhead, but it seems to be working so well I don't think I'd mess with it. Sure is a little gem! I wish there were more in America but it seems they weren't widely sold except for a catalogue company.
@RotarySMP
@RotarySMP 2 жыл бұрын
@@jimurrata6785 Yeah, those sprial carbide cutters are quite pricey (like 2x what I paid for the whole machine) and the blades are nice and sharp and not dinged.
@MarkDennehy
@MarkDennehy 2 жыл бұрын
Ah, jointers. Table saws will just cut off your fingers so you have to sew them back on; you need a jointer to take your fingers and slice them off in half-millimetre slices so there's nothing left to sew back on. That guard is your very, very best friend with those things...
@RotarySMP
@RotarySMP 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I he I am using it correctly. Seems it bit weird to lift it and run boards under it for planing.
@HH-Machining
@HH-Machining 2 жыл бұрын
I have same machine. Have had it for like 6-7 years and never used it :D
@RotarySMP
@RotarySMP 2 жыл бұрын
Make sure you lube that infeed drive before your crank it up to make this winters fire wood.
@fz1fazer999
@fz1fazer999 Жыл бұрын
Great video. Very helpful as I have just purchased an old one to renovate. Can you possibly tell me the diameter of the green drive belt please. Thanks
@RotarySMP
@RotarySMP Жыл бұрын
It is 6mm diameter. I got it off amazon. Takes a bit of practice to get a decent weld, but you can try over and over.
@fz1fazer999
@fz1fazer999 Жыл бұрын
@@RotarySMP brilliant thank you
@fairstnaimelastenaime1346
@fairstnaimelastenaime1346 2 жыл бұрын
14:25 that digimatic looks pretty real (if insert batteries and it has four zeros blinking is real instead of going straight to a measurement number), i wonder if you had a certificate with it and from reputable vendor, I fell for a clone on amazon. They're really big biz as Clough42 demonstrated.. I've a Chinese bandsaw, the pulley was half hollow, and ironically hollow where the belt force was applied creating fulcrum/lever effect on the small portion in contact with shaft, munched itself AND the motor shaft.
@RotarySMP
@RotarySMP 2 жыл бұрын
It is an original Mitutoyo. The information on the clones has been available on the internet for years. I checked before I bought this one. It is annoying when a machine has such issues. My DoAll has a worn out gearbox, and I bypassed it with a 1:1 shaft through it, until I get around to fixing it.
@AL6S00740
@AL6S00740 2 жыл бұрын
hahah the end was the bomb ( making firewood :D ahhahaha )
@RotarySMP
@RotarySMP 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching till the end.
@theinfernalcraftsman
@theinfernalcraftsman 2 жыл бұрын
Very nice firewood manufacturing. Those Inca machines were very rare here in the US. I always enjoyed wood lathes. Great way to make expensive sawdust and chips and nothing usable in the end (in my case). A simple 90* gear motor and speedcontrol is how I would go after that feed screw fix. Oh and I had plane tickets ready to buy for Athens... But she didn't like the layover time in London and got pissy and didn't want to go... So My mom is finally getting her passport and once she has it in hand will plan on taking her to Athens and Naxos in late April. Maybe May depending on ticket prices. So yeah not in a good mood that we aren't going there on Sunday but may end up going twice next year. The flight loads coming back from Athens are full or near full on all flights and they are having too many cancellations due to mechanicals on 787s to even think about non revving there. And buying a one way ticket home costs more than a round trip...
@RotarySMP
@RotarySMP 2 жыл бұрын
Understandable. Flying standby sucks when the loads are full. We once got bumped three times in Kuala Lumpur with our 6M old. Had to show at midnight each time.
@theinfernalcraftsman
@theinfernalcraftsman 2 жыл бұрын
@@RotarySMP Ugh not fun. We watch the loads and will decide which one to get on. She will sometimes take the jump seat and last month on the way home from Cleveland they gave me a jump seat then the flight cancelled... I miss 5 years ago when I could usually fly somewhere and get a first class seat. Now with so many people flying and all the free miles, half the plane is on the upgrade list and you are just happy if you get on the plane. So for now on we are going to have to buy tickets like everyone else. We get a 20^ discount but... On international they give you the discount then they tack on a $1200 tax. So if you buy a ticket with an employee discount you pay way more than the average public would...
@RotarySMP
@RotarySMP 2 жыл бұрын
@@theinfernalcraftsman I was once on an ID00 standby staff ticket through IAD to Cincinatti on a business trip. The hop down from Chicago was overbooked, and they called for volunteers to give up their seat for a guaranteed seat on the next flight and 200 bucks. I volunteered and got the deal.- Thought it was hilarious as I had no guaranteed seat on any plane
@madguernseyboy
@madguernseyboy 2 жыл бұрын
Is the machine just as loud as the Chinese cheap thickness planers?
@RotarySMP
@RotarySMP 2 жыл бұрын
Yep. I wear ear defenders with both.
@syabelman696
@syabelman696 2 жыл бұрын
Not even close. The Inca uses an "induction" motor. A DeWalt or whatever uses a "universal" motor. The Inca is a million times quieter
@JMassengill
@JMassengill 2 жыл бұрын
Impressive tool. I thought your fence worked well.
@RotarySMP
@RotarySMP 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks 👍 It does.
@stellamcwick8455
@stellamcwick8455 2 жыл бұрын
Your story about the queen gave me flashbacks to This Old Tony’s “How I got fired on Christmas Eve” story. I kept waiting for you to say something like “and that’s how I got kicked out of the Air Force”. …. and that guard needs to go.
@RotarySMP
@RotarySMP 2 жыл бұрын
That Xmas yarn of my favourite TOT video of all time. :)
@Infrared73
@Infrared73 2 жыл бұрын
The best firewood! Had me laughing.
@RotarySMP
@RotarySMP 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you watched till the end :)
@kautzz
@kautzz 2 жыл бұрын
now that's some high precision firewood! ISO 5725 certified?
@RotarySMP
@RotarySMP 2 жыл бұрын
I have heard CNC is for mass producing precision scrap as well :)
@Rustinox
@Rustinox 2 жыл бұрын
That's a nice toy. A chips fountain!
@RotarySMP
@RotarySMP 2 жыл бұрын
It really is. I am using the chips as mulch so I dont have to weed the rose garden. This machine fills a bucket in no time.
@remybecker5201
@remybecker5201 Жыл бұрын
Hey, nice video I have the same model here and with the fence!! It can join well however not plane to thickness since the automatic feeders are not in line with the blades. The manual says to adjust the adjusting screws beneath both sides of the cutter head and loosen the locking screws in order to slide the whole thing down. I am guessing the locking screws refer to the 4 screws on each end But it is physically impossible to get to the screws on the right side (belt side) without disassembling all the gears and such. There must be a better way???!? If you have any idea that would be great! Thx
@RotarySMP
@RotarySMP Жыл бұрын
Mine cuts pretty even thickness, so the only issue has been the stupid feed mechanism breaking the belt if not perfectly happy. Please make a video on disassembly your one and fixing it :)
@remybecker5201
@remybecker5201 Жыл бұрын
@@RotarySMP yeah I managed to fix it, with allot of trust in my tools not breaking in weird angles. I lowered the entire cutterhead down like 2-4 mm, it's amazing now!
@RotarySMP
@RotarySMP Жыл бұрын
@@remybecker5201 Glad that worked out for you. I was using mine yesterday, and found it is thicknessing slightly out of parallel. About 0.1mm over 50mm wide strips. I'll have to look into to that at some stage.
@barry99705
@barry99705 2 жыл бұрын
-10 points for not adding a Wilhelm scream when the spider jumped.
@RotarySMP
@RotarySMP 2 жыл бұрын
I dropped the ruler, but edited that out. :)
@EddArmitage
@EddArmitage 2 жыл бұрын
Does the circular saw let you reduce the depth of cut so the motor clears shallow stuff? With my cheapo I have to do that if I want to run along a guide on the motor side.
@RotarySMP
@RotarySMP 2 жыл бұрын
Good point. I need to check that.
@HM-Projects
@HM-Projects 2 жыл бұрын
Squaring stock seems too complicated, glad I picked metal working.
@RotarySMP
@RotarySMP 2 жыл бұрын
At least it goes fast.
@HM-Projects
@HM-Projects 2 жыл бұрын
@@RotarySMP I'll give you that. I sucked at carpentry in school and the metal shop but wood shop power tools always scared the shit out of me.
@RotarySMP
@RotarySMP 2 жыл бұрын
@@HM-Projects I know what you mean. The skill saw, planer, router and band saw are all pretty evil machines. Scare the shit out of me as well.
@MRCNC1967
@MRCNC1967 2 жыл бұрын
I see a variable-speed DC motor drive adaptation project in our future to replace that sketchy power feed system on the INCA. Funny how the rest of the machine seems like a tank compared to the power feed drive. Nice story about you and your AF mates getting bombed after "meeting" the queen.
@RotarySMP
@RotarySMP 2 жыл бұрын
I will try to keep it running with maintenance, but if is too much of a PITA, it will get its own motor.
@briantaylor9266
@briantaylor9266 2 жыл бұрын
Over here in North America, jointers and planers are usually stand-alone units, whereas in Europe combo machines seem to be the norm. Any thoughts on why this might be so? Pros and cons?
@RotarySMP
@RotarySMP 2 жыл бұрын
I think in general, people here are less likely to have the space for such things, so you end up with more combined machines. Have you ever seen an EmcoStar?
@briantaylor9266
@briantaylor9266 2 жыл бұрын
@@RotarySMP In North America the rough equivalent to the EmcoStar is the Shopsmith (still in business).
@RotarySMP
@RotarySMP 2 жыл бұрын
@@briantaylor9266 Thanks. I didn't know that machine. I always wonder how much time you need to reconfigure those types of machine constantly.
@philip_fletcher
@philip_fletcher 2 жыл бұрын
Inca still make router lifts and stuff - not sure it's the same company though!
@RotarySMP
@RotarySMP 2 жыл бұрын
There is also a company under that name selling parts for these machines.
@syabelman696
@syabelman696 2 жыл бұрын
Incra vs Inca. Two different companies. incra still makes lots of stuff like miter gauges. Inca made woodworking machines til they went out of business around 2000.
@glennmoreland6457
@glennmoreland6457 2 жыл бұрын
Myford were doing it years ago... 🇬🇧😐
@RotarySMP
@RotarySMP 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info.
@stewartfrye
@stewartfrye 2 жыл бұрын
How to get square flames in your fire, use square wood
@RotarySMP
@RotarySMP 2 жыл бұрын
That is the plan. :)
@michaellinahan7740
@michaellinahan7740 2 жыл бұрын
I had a machine like that for years they work well for what they are BUT you will thank yourself (in reduced clean up) if you get dust collection hooked up to it. Mine had a simple scoop that clipped in either above the table or below depending on the function. However, after a decent tax return a couple of years ago I got a bigger one with carbide cutters and the difference between them is like chalk and cheese. Great shame about Her Majesty; she was the consummate states person King Charles III has some big shoes to fill. Rest in peace your Majesty.
@chrisstephens6673
@chrisstephens6673 2 жыл бұрын
But as one radio commentators said, he had the world's longest apprenticeship for the job.
@RotarySMP
@RotarySMP 2 жыл бұрын
I know what you mean. This thing generates huge amounts of chips. So far I am just sweeping it up, but I will make a collection system sooner or later.
@joell439
@joell439 2 жыл бұрын
@@RotarySMP - no disrespect here, but I vote for much later …… you’ve got a lot of other project needing a bit of attention 😂🤣😂
@RotarySMP
@RotarySMP 2 жыл бұрын
@@joell439 Hi Joel, Yeah, it only take a couple of minutes to sweep the floor, and I have to do that anyway. Schaublin gets priority.
@philipallard8026
@philipallard8026 2 жыл бұрын
A machinist in a wood shop is a scary thing. As a woodworker I never get as close as 0.1 millimeter. Wood has enough flex you can make it work even an eighth inch off.
@RotarySMP
@RotarySMP 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback. I was wonding what tolerances furniture makers work to.
@ferrumignis
@ferrumignis 2 жыл бұрын
Bit disappointed you didn't blue up the fence and hand scrape it to perfection 😁
@RotarySMP
@RotarySMP 2 жыл бұрын
This one is only temporary :)
@rokk8041
@rokk8041 2 жыл бұрын
Instead of fiddling with a belt use an o-ring. That's been working for me for years.
@RotarySMP
@RotarySMP 2 жыл бұрын
It would be a big O-ring, 6mm diameter and 450mm long.
@rhysgray1233
@rhysgray1233 2 жыл бұрын
Why isn't your vise in the bottom of the cook straight with the rest of them
@RotarySMP
@RotarySMP 2 жыл бұрын
...bottom of the cook... ???
@basvalkema4532
@basvalkema4532 2 жыл бұрын
Next video: Dust collection? 😁
@RotarySMP
@RotarySMP 2 жыл бұрын
Hopefully not. I need to make some Schaublin progress.
@onurjp
@onurjp 2 жыл бұрын
Hi I love the music choices. Btw, about belt, your setup is too hot for the material. Its losing material properties and getting hard and brakes on the joint. Love your videos.
@RotarySMP
@RotarySMP 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tips!
@HansFormerlyTraffer
@HansFormerlyTraffer 2 жыл бұрын
I didn't think you were after perfectly sized firewood. I thought you were creating chips for the wood smoker.
@RotarySMP
@RotarySMP 2 жыл бұрын
I already have bags of cherry chips for the next bacth of Chipotles. This thing provides an unlimited volume of chips.
@flikflak24
@flikflak24 2 жыл бұрын
just woundering are you gonna chance the blade out for one of those that with varbide inserts in ? and put a dio for the high instead of just the arrow ? ( i would put a dio on just because i can xD and give the the haters the middle finger / saying " its my machine i can do with it as i want xD )
@RotarySMP
@RotarySMP 2 жыл бұрын
Those helical carbide cutting heads look really nice, but are also quite expensive. I doubt I will be using it enough to justify the investment. What is a dio?
@flikflak24
@flikflak24 2 жыл бұрын
@@RotarySMP DIO = digital read output like meany have on there lathe and mill i would do it just because i can. annoy the haters. because its cool and i can make a plank the exact same thickness as one that i would already had made years earlier
@RotarySMP
@RotarySMP 2 жыл бұрын
@@flikflak24 Oh right. DRO. Yeah, I was also thinking that this deserves a more accurate scale. At least a Vernier.
@mathiasman
@mathiasman 2 жыл бұрын
Will you CNC the planer?
@RotarySMP
@RotarySMP 2 жыл бұрын
I sure hope not :)
@dowgy177
@dowgy177 2 жыл бұрын
Woah buddy, use two grip paddles when jointing. If that blade snags it's gonna yank that wood and your left hand directly towards the blades, and I'd hate to see you lose a finger.
@RotarySMP
@RotarySMP 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your safety input. I dont have a lot of wood working experience, and would kind of like to keep all fingers. I was not sure whether I am using that guide right for the first flattening cut. Is better to raise the guide, and pass the wood under it (like I showed), or better to move the guide sideways to expose the width like with jointing? When using two paddles for jointing, do you use both on top (how do you get force again fence), or did you make special "vee block" paddles for this?
@dowgy177
@dowgy177 2 жыл бұрын
@@RotarySMP I'm actually not a huge woodworker, so unfortunately I can't say exactly what the proper technique is for this type of jointer/planer. My best guess would be to raise the guide as you showed, but use two paddles thus keeping some type of guard between your hands and the blade. As for the type of paddles, I've seen both top paddles and v block paddles used when jointing so I'm guessing that is personal preference. Not trying to be the know it all here, hopefully a pro can chime in and correct me.
@RotarySMP
@RotarySMP 2 жыл бұрын
@@dowgy177 Thanks for the feedback on that.
@ericmorriscompany9648
@ericmorriscompany9648 2 жыл бұрын
Well, it’s not a lathe but it’s still a machine!
@RotarySMP
@RotarySMP 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I have had some issues with the Schaublin, which have cost me longer than expected.
@ericmorriscompany9648
@ericmorriscompany9648 2 жыл бұрын
@@RotarySMP I’m all on board with showing other machines. I don’t need all lathe all the time. 🤣
@RotarySMP
@RotarySMP 2 жыл бұрын
@@ericmorriscompany9648 Thanks for your loyalty to my content :) I was out visting a mate yesterday and did all the filming of a cool machine he just got. Watch this space :)
@ericmorriscompany9648
@ericmorriscompany9648 2 жыл бұрын
@@RotarySMP every single video… Great content and humor😃
@RotarySMP
@RotarySMP 2 жыл бұрын
@@ericmorriscompany9648 Thanks Eric. You feedback really helps.
@notsonominal
@notsonominal 2 жыл бұрын
Thats it, screw sustainability I'm switching to fuel oil - no way I am holding my firewood to this standard!!
@RotarySMP
@RotarySMP 2 жыл бұрын
This machine will get busy come heating season.
@T1nCh0
@T1nCh0 2 жыл бұрын
6:10 - Maybe it's dead! * It was not dead *
@RotarySMP
@RotarySMP 2 жыл бұрын
I certainly wasn't. I dropped the ruler when it jumped :)
@T1nCh0
@T1nCh0 2 жыл бұрын
@@RotarySMP I dropped my phone also haha
@RotarySMP
@RotarySMP 2 жыл бұрын
@@T1nCh0 I have never seen a spider that big in Vienna before, and not in my basement.
@T1nCh0
@T1nCh0 2 жыл бұрын
@@RotarySMP there's always a first time!
@RotarySMP
@RotarySMP 2 жыл бұрын
@@T1nCh0 I headed off under the DoAll. I am fine if it lives there. :)
@alexscarbro796
@alexscarbro796 2 жыл бұрын
It’s a wood linguini maker!
@RotarySMP
@RotarySMP 2 жыл бұрын
Kind of looks like that.
@jdmorgan82
@jdmorgan82 2 жыл бұрын
So no fence…. Seems like a lost pla casting project. I’ve been told it’s quite a bit easier than the other methods.
@RotarySMP
@RotarySMP 2 жыл бұрын
Not sure who told you that, but take a look at my Beatles statue casting videos, and decide for yourself :)
@Reman1975
@Reman1975 2 жыл бұрын
If you pack all your wood shavings into old cereal boxes with a tiny bit of used cooking oil poured on it to soak in, they not only burn for a time that's pretty comparable to an equivalent sized block of wood, but also give off the vauge aroma of what was cooked in the oil. :) Just out of interest, in your years as an aircraft mechanic, I'm guessing you get a pretty lenient allowance on baggage when going to smaller airports, so you can take a few specialist tools that may not be instantly available on site. Does that lead a unhealthy habit of scouring international eBay for interesting tools to...... erm...... "Supplement" your returning luggage? I used to be a long distance courier here in the UK, and it was unreal the times I won bargains on eBay because the item was something too big for someone in a hatchback car to collect, too out of the way for most people to want to go, and too bulky to ship. If I had a large chunk of the planet to buy kit from and free reign to say "It's just work equipment, plus spares" when handing crates to the check in desk, I'm not sure I'd have been able to control myself. :D
@RotarySMP
@RotarySMP 2 жыл бұрын
So far I have been using the chips to bury the weeds in my rose garden. But with energy prices the way they are, your suggestion might be necessary this winter. I have no special baggage allowance. Bummer. I is really expensive to ship machines long distance. I paid 50% of the Schaublin's purchase price for the delivery.
@Reman1975
@Reman1975 2 жыл бұрын
@@RotarySMP bleed in hell, either you got the lathe really cheap, or it came a ruddy long way ! :D
@RotarySMP
@RotarySMP 2 жыл бұрын
@@Reman1975 I live in Austria. The lathe was transported on a truck from Switzeland. Was still a good find :)
@ceesweerheim990
@ceesweerheim990 2 жыл бұрын
and where exactly does this bolt to the lathe??😂😂
@RotarySMP
@RotarySMP 2 жыл бұрын
I will be able to make the nicest bed board to protect it when changing chucks you have every seen. :)
@helmutzollner5496
@helmutzollner5496 2 жыл бұрын
If you keep collecting machines like that you will have to put a second understory under your cellar! 😄 (don't you just hate auto'correction'!)
@RotarySMP
@RotarySMP 2 жыл бұрын
Or knock down walls (can't they are structural).
@jesseservice7828
@jesseservice7828 2 жыл бұрын
Perfeito !
@RotarySMP
@RotarySMP 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks.
@StubbyPhillips
@StubbyPhillips 2 жыл бұрын
Dude!
@RotarySMP
@RotarySMP 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks.
@rrroootttaaa
@rrroootttaaa 2 жыл бұрын
The edges seems too sharp for my taste of firewood
@RotarySMP
@RotarySMP 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching till the end.
@donsundberg5730
@donsundberg5730 2 жыл бұрын
Throw some film finish on it and that fence will probably last you forever.
@RotarySMP
@RotarySMP 2 жыл бұрын
So far I waxed it.
@donsundberg5730
@donsundberg5730 2 жыл бұрын
@@RotarySMP That may be enough. In my climate, I generally put one coat of film finish on all sides to stabilize the wood. Two is better. Don't want your reference surfaces to move on you. Love the channel!
@RotarySMP
@RotarySMP 2 жыл бұрын
@@donsundberg5730 Thanks Don. I figured since I will be regularly waxing the in, out and thicknesser tables, I will just keep waxing the fence at the same time.
@chichcnc
@chichcnc 2 жыл бұрын
0.02 to 0.05 will burn a lot hotter.
@RotarySMP
@RotarySMP 2 жыл бұрын
:)
@3dkiwi920
@3dkiwi920 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah nah aren't new/old machines just the best? Jesus Christ @ 6:12 I just had a minor heart attack...
@RotarySMP
@RotarySMP 2 жыл бұрын
They really are. This is so much nicer to use than a cheap knock off. My wife didn't like the spider bit either. :)
@JMassengill
@JMassengill 2 жыл бұрын
Let’s see. Important party + military guys untrained for the task + alcohol = what could go wrong!
@RotarySMP
@RotarySMP 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, seemed like a good idea at the time. :)
@RambozoClown
@RambozoClown 2 жыл бұрын
That guard has to go. All that stopping and starting and having to change your grip on the stock is asking for trouble. Even the pork chops are better than that. Maybe you can come up with a new design that really works?
@AndyOlney
@AndyOlney 2 жыл бұрын
Mine works fine, it's very thin and easy to transfer pressure. Andy
@RotarySMP
@RotarySMP 2 жыл бұрын
I have too many open projects, so this will stay for now.
@anxiousmerchant4129
@anxiousmerchant4129 2 жыл бұрын
that guard is pretty much state of the art. swing style or chain segment for example were phased out in germany years ago, dont know about our neighbors thou
@RotarySMP
@RotarySMP 2 жыл бұрын
@@anxiousmerchant4129 Nice to know. Now I just need to use it correctly.
@anxiousmerchant4129
@anxiousmerchant4129 2 жыл бұрын
@@RotarySMP look up heiko rechs video series on safe operation of those machines
@claeswikberg8958
@claeswikberg8958 2 жыл бұрын
20:25 must... resist... joke... arrrrrrhhhhhhh
@RotarySMP
@RotarySMP 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry about the Dad pun :)
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