Is This The End Of European Basketball?

EuroLeague, EuroCup, Champions League and many domestic leagues in Europe face the same problem - lack of young talent. These players rather choose NCAA, G-League or other leagues, which offer better financial situation. Could this lead to the extinction of European basketball? Watch and find out.
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[@maikotter9945]

ein Beitrag des Mittwoches, 19. Juni 2024 Moin = Hello! Compare your face to Jonathan Frakes (US American citizen; Star Trek; X Factor), please!

[@pif7923]

For most fans euroleague will die the day dubai gets in

[@user-bu6dk1er9p]

nah they gonna increase the level i believe

[@Makaronis99]

Simple question: Why?

[@dextrane715]

Nah, they have plenty of money, but that isnt nearly enough to be a true contender team.

[@Yinon776]

Dubai would increase the EL's financial strength, why would Euroleague fans be bothered by it?

[@panicjova31210pozega]

Nonsense. Why?

[@andius88]

Euroleague needs cash? Start selling EL media rights for what it’s worth, not some pocket change that’s so low that raises eyebrows - that’s 50M per year like wtf??

[@andrijapfc]

If they could sell them for more, they would...look at the attendance numbers. Basketball is most popular in countries which are not very wealthy. In the countries that are wealthy, it's not that popular...

[@lokeijak]

Basketball has the potential to reach football level money in Europe

[@JohnDoe-fi2ot]

Euroleague is not doomed, but the win now mentality is terrible for a club, as rosters change massively every season and makes it impossible to integrate young talent. Coaches need to work in an environment where they can built for multiple years, just like in soccer.

[@andrijapfc]

European clubs don't play in the Euroleague only...they also play their national leagues. It is in these national leagues that they have more room to develop young players. However the Euroleague with their system of making national leagues mostly irrelevant because winning a national championship has no effect on Euroleague participation (unlike in football with the UCL) has done a lot to starve the national leagues of cash and prestige. There needs to be a proper agreement between the Euroleague and the national leagues because the Euroleague can't survive on its own. It's the glittering roof not the foundation. The foundation are their national leagues and not just the top divisions but also the 2nd, 3rd division...

[@user-oi1fx6oc1n]

Thats also in nba

[@adamorumcek]

Nothing to worry. As long as the teams in Europe stays at a comparable level to other European teams, fans will still watch the games. E.g. Serbian and Lithuanian teams are clearly not the best of Europe but they are playing in front of big crowds.

[@user-oi1fx6oc1n]

Nah,euroleague is far behind

[@gloopdogg1145]

Serbian clubs will not even play Euroleague if Russian clubs wasn't under sanctions,we in Serbia know that.Euroleague do everything to destroy small and poor markets,thay made BB just for Rich clubs,Serbian club can made 10 Nikola Jokic and next year Rich clubs will just buy all them,in NBA nobody can do that,just how in Usa thay dont go and buy young talents age 10,11 how in Ex Jugoslavia do clubs from Spaine for example,what thay do in football in South America,thay do that in bb...

[@NauarchosHere]

Since the entire situation can be summarized as "Euroleague teams are not investing in their youth teams", Euroleague itself needs to establish either rules or a foundation for young players to emerge into the starting rosters. For example, mandate that a minimum of X players under the age of 21 must play a minimum of Y minutes each season. Or create a youth Euroleague championship (like UEFA has its youth league) where all Euroleague teams must play players under the age of 21. There clearly are ways around this, it's up to the people in charge to make the necessary changes to fix this issue.

[@bobosmrade1950]

That is a very problematic rule. I was a U16 player when I started playing for the senior team in Croatia Second Division. The rule at the time stated that atleast one U18 player had to be on the court at all times for both teams. The rule led to alot of talented players taking it easy with their training because they were guaranteed playing time no matter what. Plus it lead to bad basketball (“Leave the kid to shoot and help” or “Always attack the kid on defense”). The rule was abolished in 2016 I belive, and even though Croatian basketball is ridiculously bad, disorganized, under financed and having less and less players and teams by the year, young players have to earn their playing time. I belive even the first division had the same rule, though it wasnt U18 but U20.

[@fabulist4205]

​@@bobosmrade1950well said neighbor.

[@Makaronis99]

Its just student years, how is it end for Europe? They just go leave the family, and most of them will come back. There is no space for everyone in NBA, so they just gonna get better and come back, i dont see any problem with that. And the ageing is it really the problem? Euroleague is still TOP quality basketball, and many veterans who will finish career soon or later, dont worry its not the end.

[@masterm155]

I'm not so sure. Does really half quality players from college or development clubs in Europe really have some great talent to save us.For exempl Wemby played in Asvel one or two seasons,and he left to Metropolitan 92 and increase his value.Similiar with Risacher.Topic was in Mega and after going to the Crvena zvezda his value dropped from top 3 picks to top 8 or even top 11 pick.Plus is there any club who is wiling to give a young prospect 1 milion plus dolars or euros? I think not and I hope basketball will do better marketing with some addition of the euro players who are in their 24-28 years and boost competition. I hope you are alright but I'm really scared beacous Bartomeu,Glikman and Paulius are not some great owners beacous vice president of NBA is Joe Dummars and some other players who are successful in business.

[@RokasAndriuskevicius-zl6rd]

G lygue is also raising their wages. And some young players that can't play in the NBA can stay in the G league, especially Americans that are also needed in Europe.

[@Makaronis99]

@@RokasAndriuskevicius-zl6rd oh man… Ok, first of all thats already happening for years that most of USA players that cant get to nba staying to G instead of Europe. Second thing, Europe is not going downwards, its going UP too. Tv contracts and all things are changing, even withour that wages is raising in Europe too. And the main thing, there is players who play for money, and who play basketball, idk how to explain it more. But euroleague always been toughest and real basketball not show. And its rising up, not going down. So this is just cowshait all those talks. Money over basketball? Ok, go to America. But there always gonna be players that want to play in Euroleague, and those who will choose Basketball over money. And money difference isn’t that big, and wi get better for Euroleague, so everything gonna be alright, and dont worry be happy.

[@Makaronis99]

@@masterm155 Paulius is the one i believe in from all of those. He can make it, he made Zalgiris great again, he can do it with Euroleague too.

[@jecapeca]

Most of them will come back. Those who don't make it in the NBA, because of lack of talent. That's what's waiting European clubs - the lack of talented youth.

[@rtaparauskas]

Young talents dont get any playing time in EL, so there is the problem if they will play and get paid in ncaa and later come back to El? Yes, domestic clubs lower then EL will have a bit lower quality

[@TsampoukasG]

Why 3 French teams and Greece remains at 2 representatives? Who sets these rules?

[@parsifal40]

France has almost 7 times the population of Greece bro

[@andrijapfc]

@@parsifal40 Yeah and Greece has 10 Euroleague championships and another 8 finals, while France has 1 champion (Limoges in 92-93) and not a single other finals appearance. 2 different Greek clubs have won titles and 3 different have appeared in finals, whereas France has just the one (Limoges). France may have 7 times the population but it's club basketball and basketball league is way less developed than Greece's. Greek clubs have won 19 European trophies, the majority (10) being top-tier, while French clubs have won 11, only 1 top-tier, 3 2nd-tier and the rest 3rd and 4th-tier. So the idea that some French team created yesterday should get preference over AEK or PAOK is indeed silly.

[@DYMLikeABaws]

There is no 3rd big team in Greece. The 2 representatives, Olympiakos and Panathinaikos, are miles ahead of the rest, in budget and success.

[@andrijapfc]

@@DYMLikeABaws and how many "big teams" are there in France? PAOK would have higher attendance numbers than Lyon

[@tsops22]

@@parsifal40But that’s exactly the point: Greek basketball fans are 10 times more than French fans for any of the teams mentioned; country size does not matter in this case.

[@Eppu_Paranormaali]

All these examples of basketball growing globally and increasing opportunities (also) for European players to develop and make career as a player are inevitably increasing the talent pool as long as basketball appears as an appealing option for kids to play and invest their time in. In short term, there might be setbacks in recruitment, but I don't think European basketball can regress as a whole in a time when the player production is this good. The clubs, leagues, associations and less organised basketball communities just have to cherish the culture we have, because the opportunities are still huge and the club culture is still our biggest asset. Pretty much like how South American football is still strong, competitive and culturally unique even if Libertadores has been facing similar stagnation for decades when compared to club competitions of other continents.

[@thanasistagaras3256]

You don t understand. It s pro European Basketball. Because... 1) More European will reach Americans-Nba Level. So the Global Pool of NBA Level player will become bigger .So more Nba level players wil play overseas in Europe. It doenst matter the nationality. Maybe Europeam teams have more Americans and American teams have more Europeans..So the gap between Euroleague n Nba will be closer as it goes the last 10 years .. The only problem Euroleague would have is if another League like CBA or somewhere else become more competitive financially and stole players ...That is unlikely and will become more unlikely when dubai become part of Euroleague

[@truthhearer6323]

Bruh, there are a lot of NBA players who aren't even NBA level

[@FuckYouYoutubCall911]

@@truthhearer6323one of them is THE GOAT , the one and only THANASIS

[@Imjustbored2023]

Most Nba dudes domt even want to play in Europe now

[@panicjova31210pozega]

America is destroying Europe in all segments - from sports to economy. We look incompetent. Something must be done to protect the players and for them to see a future in playing basketball in Europe. Allowances to clubs for the departure of young players to America should be astronomical!

[@demonofpurgatory5188]

Which economy is american destroying?

[@panicjova31210pozega]

@@demonofpurgatory5188 .....

[@panicjova31210pozega]

@@demonofpurgatory5188 Well, I already wrote to you... Germany primarily, and all others as well.

[@demonofpurgatory5188]

@@panicjova31210pozega americas dollar is dying rn

[@Omerkosar]

Yeah. Apple, Amazon, Instagram, KZbin, Twitter. Europeans consume american product. Europeans needs their own companies. Otherwise it is not looking good economically

[@kakiz1982]

Excellent content, well done gang!

[@Yannis1980]

From my point of view you are posing a legitimate set of argues and scepticism regarding euroleague context and future. But as far as I can see, euroleague will expand in terms of prestige and geography, euroleague is escalating and so does european basket, fusing material from abroad, integrating without losing its identity. In our continent basket preserves its team-effort character, without spoiling any excessive personal talent. Finally, as you already mentioned in your video, in european basketball, as in any other renowned team sport, there is a major x factor; its fan base. Neither in the NBA nor anywhere else such a major factor exists and I believe will never appear. Team sports are its fans, without them the outcome is closer to ceremony rather than actual game. PAO fan!

[@archer_twentytwo]

Ridiculous video. Every year the European basketball is dying, every year it's the last good year. Enough, can't you see that this was the best season we had in a while? And why did this happen? Because a lot of teams invested and got talent. Euroleague shouldn't be afraid of NCAA or CBA or even NBL. They are competitors and of course, they may narrow the player pool but Euroleague should just retain its prestige and the whole conversation is over. Euroleague MVPs almost every year for the last decade were leaving for the NBA, that's not new. Players do age, but people also come back to Euroleague (Hezonja, Satoransky, Abrines, Mirotic, etc) The "win now" mentality is one of the biggest factors that help European basketball stay at this level, every fucking game matters, hell every play matters. That's the intensity we bring out here, and if that is too much for any player they shouldn't be here, LaMelo Ball for example, wouldn't last a week in a club like Red Star or Zalgiris (and not because of their skill level). Bottom-line, Euroleague's on the right path, and if it needs to do something, is just create a plan to expand locally and increase the budgets of the teams. No NBAzation is required. Stop catastrophizing.

[@ema2kolfiz828]

I agree almost 100%. Competitor to EL is NBA, because the salary gap is absurd, but let’s not forget that NBA rules incentivise to collect top talents in top bodies, but not necessarily they get the top 450 skilled players of the world. De Colo for example to me is/was one of those, as Spanoulis, among best basketball players of the world but trailing in NBA because of physical limitations (and not will to be a just another rotation player). The only concern I have is on current EL administration that is looking to big markets like NBA (Paris, London, Dubai), but with 0 basketball tradition; this is an epic fail because at this game NBA will always win. So EL should instead be the DAC for audiophiles in basketball, rather than Spotify

[@archer_twentytwo]

@@ema2kolfiz828 Well said! Really good remark regarding the difference between skilled players and NBA material players. Truth is that EL admins try to compete with the NBA but it's hopeless, we can't and shouldn't try winning them on marketing. Let's stick to our own product and culture. It is clear that the heart of europe's basketball is its passion. Neither fancy cities nor fancy individual plays.

[@fumeknight2354]

To add to this, they are hypothesizing that all the new spots will attract the best European talent. But the US is huge and there are many hoopers that would also compete for those spots and if they did not get spots in college or g-league, they'd come to Europe so at the end of the day, its all good. Euroleague has aging players cause they can afford to do so. For example, PAO and OLY compete in EL but they also compete in the Greek Domestic League. Most of their young players are loaned to other teams within Greece to get playtime. Whoever shows promising results, they bring them back and give them minutes to play in the Greek Domestic League. If they show progress, they will give them EL game time. That is literally how Sasa Venzenkov got devoloped, Dinos Mitoglou, Kalaitzakis, etc. The league is fine, it will always be competitive since there is a huge fanbase behind most teams.

[@jadalhajj4533]

The B-League champ was beaten by 20+ by the Lebanese League champ in the BCL Asia semis.

[@nervewracking4971]

This is funny. Do you really think the BCL Asia semis is really important? Maybe if you're a Lebanese league fan.

[@tainanking]

Japan beat Finland in the last World Cup. What did Lebanon do?

[@gabepizza]

@@tainanking they beat the Ivory Coast

[@h.u.t.9677]

i agree mostly, some 20 years ago every major european team had some nba level players. remember d.wilkins, bob mc adoo, josh childress (no6 draft), roy tarpley etc while also most european talents stayed in europe. only a few like kukoc divac petrovic made a career in the usa. now the level has dropeed significantly (EL teams wait till all NBA contracts are closed and then buy the leftovers, and the thing is that these leftovers are so good compared to EL players that make actually a difference. and if NCAA start to pays then its game over. Also its true that all big names are now over 30. No young players and if one appears once in while the next year goes to the NBA. EL has real problems, due to poor management and lack of interest (only serbs, some greeks, and lithuanians watch). In big europeans countries noone is interested.

[@Anka777anka]

EL needs better marketing. Euro has the potential to compete with at least gleage and ncaa in short-mid term. Good marketing brings more broadcasting rights, more businessman buying euro clubs. Marketing for the masses and marketing for B2B could create a virtuous cycle.

[@chrismill85]

it's not like every college basketballer will make this amounts of money, or at all. But whining that the EL will suffer, we put our needs and desires in front of those of the players. Maybe the EL should make better offers to young players instead of letting them rot either on the bench or some backwater club.

[@vatoslocos1109]

Yes it is doomed because the game cannot attract funds the way it is. In euroleague the regulation is too old for the new fan base around the world. In the nba the players are above everything, in Europe we re having a fan base coming from football. 3” on defence in the paint must change and also bigger courts more open spaces. Euroleague must change also the final four competition to a 3 or 4 wins to get the title, the best wins

[@bahalytsports7049]

Still, European Basketball has more quality. Upsets Team USA, Blow-Outs Asian Teams in World Cups and becomes world champions.

[@gabepizza]

European basketball is different then Euroleague. Most of the best players on the good European national teams are NBA players.

[@urosbanjesevic]

it's sad to hear an interview with the Euroleague ceo and figure out he didn't mention basketball a single time, while he said the word "market" 15 times in a row.

[@NereoSal]

This is on the EL management. Always afraid to make clear choices and rules. Make it difficult for Ncaa to grab European players as they like. But no!We have a league that simply care about prestige until that abstract concept won't mean shit. I mean we don't even know how much a EL team truly spends! This is the last year I spent money to watch EL games.And I hope people will follow.

[@perkelegenda]

You got the point...PAO received a milion euro as a Cjampion?!? What a joke...and teams below 15. spot on the table received 0 euro?!? Null, nothing😂😂😂 In Fiba CL you can make samo cash...EL is absurd- thers 11 clubs with secure businessmen/footbal clubs affi financing, they holding A licence and their goal is measuring who has a bigger... Mannagment is only seeking a candidates to buy wild cards and F4 tournaments...

[@3llement]

There are always unforseen factors that will make it all workout, though very differently than anticipated.

[@stan2kay]

If competition keeps high in the EL it will always be the best NBA prep. Once playoffs come around, EL skills are required.

[@ThatNBAguy123]

I think there should be a Global Club Cup in basketball. 64 teams from over 30 countries, March Madness style. Would draw tons of profit and it would be held in one country. Absolute genius to me

[@ThatNBAguy123]

also the issue with the euroleague is the closed system. There should be a place in european comps for teams who play well domestically. Theres no incentive for most european teams to win if they know they wont make it to the Euroleague anyway. The Euroleague should suspend all licenses and be fully willing to let smaller clubs in if they win. If the big teams cant win it only motivates them to improve their team more.

[@brakmaster]

No what could happen is get the NBA champion, the Euroleague champion, the NBL champion and the JBL champion to play against each other and then name the winner champion of the world!

[@mcfuckinanotheraccount808]

@@brakmaster it's an interesting concept but what would the rules be? NBA or FIBA? It's completely different and you enter a discussion of what "real" basketball is?

[@mic_gen]

legit concerns for Euro basketball as you state in the video, but as an American living in Asia and watching Euroleague, NBA, Asia leagues, etc. I feel the systems for development are so much more established in Europe at the moment. The next crop of players might look at NIL in the NCAA as an opportunity, but as been pointed out by people in the US less and less college players from the NCAA are league ready. The system and rule set of the NCAA are far from the NBA or of FIBA which has always been their weakness. Long story short going to the NCAA can give short term monetary gains, but might actually harm young player's overall trajectory if they are elite.

[@guillermofernandez529]

With Euroleague being a semi closed league, the relevance of each national championship has decreased significally. That's where youth talent has a better place to shine

[@2ez4kitty]

It doesn't even matter. With Euroleague's win now mentality, they don't even bother developing young talents. It's better if young talents go to NCAA, and if they won't get drafted in the NBA, they are bound to go to Europe anyway.

[@rinza9760]

they will get the bag and go back to europe if they dont get drafted, what afterwards? some of them wont even adapt to pro ball cuz most of them dont have the experience playing with older guys

[@TheTsannel]

European basketball holds a major advantage that we "inexplicably" overlook (cause we have come, and some have found it convenient, to believe that there is no alternative), and this neglect is the root of all our problems: an incredible, vast network of teams and leagues that has fueled the sport for years with abundant talent and passionate fans. Clinging to a traditional closed league model spells certain decline, if not outright disaster. We're simply shooting ourselves in the foot (especially in countries like Lithuania, Greece, and the former Yugoslavia, which lack the robust school systems and financial resources of powerhouses like Spain or France)

[@MsNerdsRevenge]

It could be. FIBA. NIL and NCAA the division splits. Illinois when everyone has distain for Angel Reese and Chicago? That's Rockerfeller all day long.

[@perkelegenda]

Great analysis...been speaking about this subject with my friends/basketball.adicts and the guys dont understand the menace for eurohoops that is approaching...so I send them this vid, thanks❤ I can add only this- the number of 2way NBA-G league contract player is also raising=20+ good players are staying in US... K league, China, Puerto Rico and Philipines are also good leagues for Americans...nice cash, little effort... Main reason for declining of EL is EL itself...They are incapable of making EL a profitable product, their top managment dont know/want/care to make EL a competition in which club can earn cash...If it crumbles, that completly normal...

[@mynamedenis]

My understanding of NIL was abit different. It allows for college players to sign contracts with brands like Nike or Pepsi and receive commercial revenue from such deals. From Jakucionis example it sounds more like contract with university, but not the brand. Can someone explain how it works?

[@riccardoahonoukoun1930]

im agree with all! Also Mike james (eurolegue mvp) says that there aren't young players in the league, and he specified that after this era, so in 5 year or less, if the eurolegue and the domestic cup hasn't new dominant player... the european basket will die

[@lyubenpetrov6430]

Euroleague should try to learn a thing or two from the nba. I never understood why our courts are smaller. Make them nba size. Give players more freedom to make plays, dunks, etc. That is why people watch basketball. Tradition will be the end of us here in Europe. If you want to attract new fans, then definitely some of the old ones will not be satisfied. But thats how it goes.

[@Kazbasketball]

750K in NIL sounds crazy to me, whos paying that??? Can you do a separate NIL video? It's a bit confusing, to be honest...

[@josephperez4602]

I appreciate the Euroleague, but now you guys are getting to know what MLS fans in the US are dealing with.🤦🏾‍♂️

[@Nazihhallouda-c8v]

I think euroleague teams should have more local players to engage the fans and the community. And with this limitation there will be more opportunities for young players and the win now mentality will loosen a bit

[@kambge]

Some teams who do not challenge for the title develop players. Everybody is saying Berlin is a bad club but they developed two local prospects the Warner’s brothers who play at very high level now. Also olympiakos who has win now mentality but also a low budget develops a lot of young players, papanikolaou was developed from young. Panathinaikos last season played a lot of young players when they were losing like kalaitzakis, kostas ante and papagiannis. So it is possible but difficult to win the title with youth

[@babiskounadis3755]

Excellent video and thorough analysis! Well done! EL is indeed aging and the win mentality can destroy this championship. For example, my team Panathinaikos 100% succesful this year with EL and Greek title, has "destroyed" his best prospect, Lefteris Mantzoukas, who couldnt find even 5 minutes to play in EL

[@greekveteran2715]

Αυτό ίσχυε ανέκαθεν για όλες τις ομάδες που έκαναν Πρωταθλητισμό. Ο Μαντζούκας πρέπει να δωθεί δανεικός,όπως κάνουν πάντα σε τέτοιες περιπτώσεις, για να πάρει παιχνίδια.Αν δεν τον δώσουν, πιστεύω ότι αν τον πάρει χαμπάρι ο Αταμάν τι παικταράς είναι, θα τον βάζει στο Ελληνικό πρωτάθλημα έστω να πάρει παιχνίδια.

[@leaomarinho5023]

I guess EuroLeague will go through it's south american football arc.

[@tptp3143]

Greek fan here, In greece we have regulations that limit the number of foreign players in a club. This means that all teams are forced to have greek players or at least players with greek heritage and some of them are pretty young. HOWEVER these players especially in the big clubs like oly and pao consistently fail to perform, their counterparts on smaller clubs play much better than them. Why is that? Does it happen on other countries as well? Is it the pressure from the win now mentality? For example zougris from peristeri although short for a center is much better than tanoulis from oly...

[@thetalker.7304]

Sweden we have that to 2 American 1 European

[@CrazyMadafaka96]

I agree with most of your points but you didn't factor in the passion for a club, not only from the fans, but from the domestic players as well. Money is surely important, but it's still a big decision to move overseas, for players that aren't considered young talents at least. And something that euroleague should implement is a play-in tournament between some of the bottom teams of euroleague and some of the top team of eurocup, so each country can earn more spots and keep the competition more live than ever.

[@jairlevy]

Is hard to find a way to milk the money into other teams that may have space to develop young talent.

[@Bouzoukistudent]

i would preferred if there were a euroleague and the same teams participate on the year , they had a second team with their youths from their academies . Maybe from 16 years of age until 19 - 20 . and only kids from the country of the team .Spain ? Only kid from Spain in their academies . Italy ? only kids from Italy . We fans will love it and support it . But also they will give an extra incentive to the teams to invest more in local youth . That will also evolve the basket , their skills , experiences , they will gain more battle time. And being battled in such level ? they will be ready for the big teams when they grow up . That way you have an extra product you can capitalize , but also setting the foundations all those players every country produces actually getting their chances and play and not discarded or stay on the bench , or given loan to a smaller league until they make a name for them selfs or the team have no money to buy good players and they call them back .

[@LucianoCantabruel]

If there aren’t players younger than 25, then what’s the complaining about young players going away. Only few of those in NCAA will pass the draft stage. The rest can eventually be hired in euroligue, and if they push good money to entice the players, euro teams could have many of these players before 25 years old.

[@Deadshot1956]

Me as a nbl fan but I also love the euro league but man if the nbl got bigger than the euro league it’s my dream

[@Yinon776]

Euroleague has great basketball and crowds, but it doesn't have the explosive marketing power that American sports do (or European football, for that matter). These days even the WNBA is possibly becoming more popular than the Euroleague, because of the explosive marketing power of Caitlin Clark. I guess that's the advantage of a superstar-focused sports culture - it translates to finacial success, and therefore to more stability and a more certain future.

[@jaddjhenyx6557]

Make it "Eurasia league" merging bleague into euroleage + the opportunity to incorporate middle east into the mix.

[@AIexOut-A-Magic]

The difference between the bigger money in the NBA and the lesser money in the European leagues, is basically that NBA is an entertainment business company with franchises and the European basketball is (still) a sports competition with basic business attached to it order to pay the players, but it is obvious that the NBA entertainment business strategy is far more lucrative so in order to avoid all great European players to leave the European competitions, Europe needs to reinvent itself and make the product more attractive on the market. For instance by adding a dinosaur show for the kids at the beginning of games, maybe some weird musical ritualistic show like the Super Bowl, or players could arrive in the hall using motor bikes, or maybe they should play with female shoes with high heels, or play without a sweater, only pants (that would make girls fill the halls for sure), etc, you name it... or an All Star game with East Europe vs Western Europe and a 3 point competition and also a dunk competition etc... anything goes really if you want it to be more entertaintaing. Anyuthing except real competition because in the eyes of the USA fans, pure and rpugh sports competition is boring.

[@gabepizza]

you're joking but there is something about the NBA that you can bring your family to (not for the prices, I mean if you are rich or upper middle class). I've seen some of these arenas in Greece, etc.. and while the passion in there it is not a place I would like to bring my wife and kids. Can opposing fans even sit next to each other? When it comes down to it, it is still a game, meant to have fun, not a life and death situation with hooligan fan base like they're actually street gangs or something. You think these millionaire players care about you?

[@AIexOut-A-Magic]

@@gabepizza Bro, I was not really joking. Maybe I did exaggerate.. yes. But the idea is that pure and rough competition is actually not good for betting companies. In the NBA, games almost always end with a very small margin which is great for the betting industry. The franchises know this so they always let the other team get back from a 20+ pts lead, so that the game ends with a small margin. A big margin in lets say the 3rd quarter makes a lot of betters stop betting, it makes no sense anymore to gamble your money. Betting is part of the reason there is an entertainment strategy. We the people call it "rigging" games by the NBA calls it "entertainment strategy" so my proposal to make a dinosaur show for kids is maybe not such a bad idea but let the game stay real, don't rig it but add external stuff that are spectacular to make it more fun for the fans that come to the arena or watch on TV.

[@liniokas]

Just a reflection of societal-economical changes in the world. Europe itself got and is still getting older and smaller compared to the rest of the world. In terms of economy other regions are catching up.

[@Skyshadow1]

I like how we pretend that having the more aged (experienced) players being at the top is somehow a catastrophe. It could very well mean that an athlete is no longer told that you either do everything until you are 30 cause after that your carreer is only going down. Science+medical advancements+ better way of life is obviously expanding a players lifespan which is excellent. It provides stability and room for growth to the teams, and is less dooming for young talent showing them experience matters and time is more on their side than it used to. I like it and i find it good for the sport.

[@sly_andy]

Hi, you are right about most of the things you said. However I think the solution will come from emerging and new market like Saudi Arabia or Asia. I think if the ECA succeed to market their product better they will conquer a lot of fans around the world with great basketball plays such a we can find during Euroleagues Games. Internationals TV rights are the key for them.

[@Bouzoukistudent]

Lets set this subject once and forever ! Euroleague as many names has change and evolve through out the years for us European fans is like our first love . And as a Greek advertise slogan says . You first love is forever ! Now there may be other girls out there , more fancy , more beautiful , definitely with less substance , and as men our eyes may check them when they pass over , but our love is unique and only for one ! And i will finish with question that deserves someone to check and show us the stats ( Augustas :D). How many players that came over the atlantic and when they feel the atmosphere of the countries championship finals and win it , but most important when they tasted the nectar of holding the European trophy stayed ? And how many left ? .

[@thetalker.7304]

You can only use 2 American player and 1 from European in Swedish basketball. More is against the rules in Swedish basketball

[@Svendrys]

Glad to see that the boy with the striped pajamas doing well 🤗🥲

[@lordjayvideos]

As an Australian fan looking into European basketball I wouldn’t be pessimistic about its future prospects. It’s still the second strongest collection of leagues in the world behind the NBA. And it will still attract players and fans. It’s great for international basketball with the growth of leagues like the NBL in Australia & B-League in Japan. And it spurs competition worldwide for talent which will ultimately spur the further growth & development of players from grassroots to elite levels.

[@TheRoseBoy11]

The NBA & NCAA are catching up to the European players...

[@copet7]

I think the NCAA might actually be good for europe. Young talent will leave yes but in average it will grow more than in euroleague exactly because they will have more playing time and either way almost no youngster actually plays at the moment. they will then come back at 23/24 and have played in duke or florida instead of some random third league in turkey

[@adrrda6091]

The Euroleague needs to drastically restrict the number of players from outside the countries in the Euroleague. This would be similar to the Bosman rules, which existed long ago. This way, young European talent wouldn't have to compete with mature American players. Most fans love their local players.

[@dtikvxcdgjbv7975]

Expensive financial venture in USA. Will thathold for long? Too ambitious.

[@thatdudefromthatvapeshop]

while i can see top prospects going to ncaa for the money ( lol basketball students gettin paid while the normal us students go into cripling debt just to study) , euro basketball will never die , we have the passion that united states dont have , watched lkl final game , and the other day nba finals the atmosphere is like light and day we have it better . I think the level of overall basketball will improve but nba is not for everyone , and kids after college will eather go to the g league (kuz rarely a top tier tallent stays in ncaa for longer than 2 years) , plan b is euroleague or any other league debending on the offers , plan c they fell off and the money they got from ncaa broke a few screws loose (it is a possibily , remember liangelio ball and china situation , you dont have to be smart to play basketball in collage) While yes developing young players in top euroleague teams is a problem with them not gettin enough playing time and experience , the mid and lower teams could do that and develop they're players nicely , sure they wont stay for long , but the team will get more exposure bringin team some money from endorsments . Overall opion it will impact where young players will go to develop their game , but only strong and detirment will survive , the rest will really have to stay humble and take classes on how to not be stupid with all that money they will be getting. And EuroBall will never die , and top stars that do go to nba wont mean they will be a good fit (too much to name but sasha vezenkov is a recent example) and eventually come back to europe

[@kmj1459]

You are definitely making a point but even though with all that talent in the nba the euroleague is stii much more fun to watch

[@youcantalwaysgetwhatyouwan6687]

everytime Europe produced a top young basketball talent. it's obvious that he's seeking an NBA career

[@strelov1520]

Economy of EU is in big trouble, so I guess this trend will be more and more continuing to grow

[@AlexandruAlex-yj2es]

why not make euroleague same format as NBA ? I want to see a Berlin Wursts vs Paris Baguettes matchup

[@TORVSTV]

Euro basketball will never die bcoz they are simple players not to hype like in US and theres a lot of players in europe D1 and D2. #bounce400

[@euroleague2ktv]

Actually its end of nba the last years...

[@yorgis13]

My friend It’s not only Lithuanian players in basketball….

[@benjaminzollitsch2408]

Maybe Alba´s way is not so bad afterall. They are one of the few teams who develop young players and making actual money in the end.

[@SimonDoer]

did I miss something? I thought it was against NCAA rules for colleges to pay for student athletes?

[@Linksmakalnietis]

NCAA deleted this rule.

[@isimsoyad4474]

even before NIL, players like Emanuel Mudiay who wanted to make some cash while waiting for the NBA draft eligibility chose to play in China instead of Europe after high school graduation. Same goes for Alex Sarr. I mean, Alex Sarr? Why on earth would a french player play in the Australian League for West Bumblefuck Wildcats? Is the NBL for sure more competitive than the French League or the Euroleague? Do NBA scouts pay more attention to the NBL or China than the Euroleague? Or are the Euroleague teams making it prohibitively difficult for young and talented players to enter the NBA draft and leave the team. in numerical terms, it's very easy to position the Euroleague as an alternative to college. Euroleague viewership ratings are on par with the NCAA and light years ahead of the NBL and CBL. If the Euroleague could force the participating teams to stop making it prohibitively difficult for players to leave for NBA, we would see top tier young talent that would normally play in the NCAA Men's Division 1 playing instead for Barcelona or Real Madrid. I mean, "We pay you 3 million dollars for one year, you get to tour around Europe, you train, you play basketball, you'll get seen by hundreds of NBA scouts on a weekly basis where they'll get to evaluate your skills against grown men that are professional basketball players instead of college kids, you don't have to sacrifice the NIL money anyway and we'll completely support your one and done aspirations" is a very good offer. I can see 10 high school grads who would be lottery picks in the NBA draft taking up this offer every year. If Euroleague manages to position itself as a college alternative for top tier NBA draft prospects, we might even see a surge in Euroleague's viewership ratings.

[@BasketNews_com]

And then the reality of the EuroLeague hits, where clubs are investing money with almost no return and thus expect to win now instead of developing talent

[@isimsoyad4474]

@@BasketNews_com that doesn't matter at all. Division 1 colleges are no charity organizations either, they are also in a perpetual win now mode. That's why, young and talented players who otherwise would go one and done in the NCAA can still contribute in the win now environment of the Euroleague.

[@demonofpurgatory5188]

Euroleague should focus on chinese viewership an its own european viewership

[@vlad4you]

I dont know man. I see more underated (in the NBA) talent leaking into the EU rather than top-tier level europeans leaving for the US. I mean, the NBA is killing the euroleague in a way that a level player in the NBA will leave for europe due to many factors ( ego, play time, legal issues ) and become a 35-minute-double-double beast, which leads to some dude getting 2minutes of playing time instead of 7. My honest opinion is that the US is producing many more athletes than the rest of the world, which leads to NBAish level talents flooding the rest of the world (primary EU). Which in turn impacts the growth of local talent. Do not forget that EU players that left for NBA, are LEGENDS. On the other hand players that came to Europe, are just good (you know, in the average case)

[@Babiniotakis]

hm one thing no this can't happen us first of all we have seen thousands of times tons of young insanely skilled european athletes cant succed in america and players in general even if they go to ncaa 75 present of them will be back and have a succesful career in the euroleauge

[@ivanverunica2435]

It's not a bad video, but 18-22 year olds don't get minutes in the Euroleague anyway since the league is too competitive. If they can get paid in the NCAA, become better players, and then return four years later (since most won't make it to the NBA) - it's a better situation for the Euroleague than having young players sitting on the bench and rotting away. And of course there is the win-now mentality in the Euroleague: it's the apex European club competition and clubs put down serious money to be a part of it. It's not a development league. As long as the clubs can keep up this level of budgetary standards, I see no reason for concern. There will always be good, seasoned, basketball-savvy players on the rosters.

[@andriyyakubenko7429]

Bs , everyone understand that playing against big man is way important than playing against boys,moreover ,when you playing in Turkey or Greece - it's improve youre psychology on another level ,because of fan pressure at every away arena. Every smart player understand that.

[@gehtdichnichtsan2477]

Bro watch the crack Baby basketball episode from South Park ! They explain why it’s wrong not to pay the players in college…

[@stefmyh9099]

European basketball must grow together and not differentiate itself into 4 different competitions. This development is ridiculous. FIBA and Euroleague must settle their dispute and a national championship must once again be linked to the right to start in the highest european Competition. For example, FIBA could link the country points for places in international competitions (World Cup, Olympics, etc.) with the slots in European club basketball. For example: Best European Country in the FIBA World Ranking = 4-5 Slots in the highest European Club Competition. We also need a functioning and healthy financial fair play. Sure, thats probably just stupid ideas. But any idea is better than an expansion to Dubai. ❤️🏀

The should build an ENBA - Euro NBA - select the 30 best European clubs, organize salary caps, drafts, NBA rules, etc. They could play against each other in a specific tournament, that would be fun.

[@zaigrice2719]

There is Euro league

[@clockworkfrustration]

You are catastrophizing indeed. I mean, sure the best prospects will always choose the NBA and maybe a few more draftable but not quite lottery-worthy players might move to NCAA, but I think that there is plenty of talent remaining in Europe and most importantly, what makes European players great is not just the talent itself, but, also, the high stakes' experience in title contention and that winning mentality which you exclusively feature as a negative. I think we'll be fine.

[@danteessa3062]

5:12 Las Vegas 100% confirmed, Mexico City fight a spot to be a part o NBA

[@matthewdeheus3124]

I've felt for a long time that European Basketball and the NBA should come to an agreement, whether it is an acquisition or a merger. Champs from the NBA and Europe would play off for a Championship. It's a way easier thing to implement than placing NBA teams abroad. It might take a few years for Euro club to win the Final, but I bet that happens quicker than people think.

[@gabepizza]

Too many games. The NBA season is already 82 games then another 16-28 in the playoffs. Then almost every summer is national teams (Olympics, World Cup, Eurobasket).The Finals just ended and we only have 2 weeks until the Olympic qualifying tournament, and that's with the finals only going 5 games. When would this "world championship" take place? We have those exhibition games, like the McDonald's Championship, between 1987-1999

[@matthewdeheus3124]

@@gabepizza None of those things would be as powerful as a successful, NBA led championship. Even 82 games might go out the window. The economics of this are pretty easy to see.

[@chachol3ptico190]

Seeing the other side It definatly Will drop the quality but also open more spots for kids to make a living of basketball, i mean players Who would not promote for european basketball teams Will now be neccesary? At the end european leagues are not so much about players quality.

[@thetalker.7304]

18 is nba lowest age you can play , Europe 16.

[@bezzog]

euroleague can create a u21 league to develop young talents

[@rafa_il]

euroleague is aging because the last two mvps are 34 years old. terrible math. no causation or correlation my friend.

[@thekidlivesnow]

Euro league is the second best pro league in the world, I doubt that will ever change. Yes the best young players will and should be in the nba, but many do not have the athleticism to warrant staying in the us vs over seas and offensive talents like Luka from Europe are very rare. Youth will look for nba but the reality is most will end up in Europe. Euroleague just moves down on the list of options since it’s more opportunities to use to try to make the nba. Give it 3-5 years and most of a draft will be in europe

[@thetalker.7304]

Manu, Tony Parker, Peja Turkalow. Dirk, Giannis, Luka, Vlad Divac, Bogdan Bogdanovic. Ricky Rubio, so rare 😅

[@thekidlivesnow]

@@thetalker.7304 now name all the nba stars and role players from the us that they played with and against

[@user-ir7zd9li9d]

Euroleague should take advantage of its aspects! so, full courts with the most passionate fans, good tactics and coach basketball and the most antagonistic teams! So, Euroleague..... has the worst referees giving advantage to the same teams (spanish, turkish and pao), let's rich teams to pay big amount of money and is ready to bring a team from Qatar...... has new teams from countries with no basketball history (like Paris etc) and doesn't try to help the old teams become better (giving more money to them) .....and .........the fans cannot feel the courts because of the ticket prices and F4 ticket policy! Corrupt members like bodiroga and bertomeu taking care of themselves and their money and all that kind of sh)t! Disgusting!

[@warhund]

I just dont watch EL anymore.. Maybe a few hot games here and there but thats it.. If it wasnt for 2 greek, 2 turkish and 2 serbian clubs there wouldnt be anything to watch unless it is your own home team playing. If I want quality I will watch NBA and not Madrid for sure. I dont want a cheap replica of the NBA "atmosphere" so I will watch warzone like games and just skip the rest.

[@syrup-man6704]

Euroleague needs more money.

[@przemeko]

Threat yes, deady threat - no way. US is getting talent without a large fan base - they will have to spend money on contracts and marketing for these players. Then they will return to Europe with a buildup fan base. Other leagues are no threat at all. See football - sport celebs went to Saudi Arabia... no body misses them. We already forgot about them

[@thabiggestkilla]

football is biggest sport in the world you can't compare basketball to that

[@oikopedo1]

so what? make it a circus like nba so that young people play? we prefer the winning mentality and not the "show" thats what is different from all other leagues..and thats what we need to keep intact..next step is to find more money so the 500.000 for the ncca not to be a factor to take europeans there..

[@thabiggestkilla]

nba have created basketball league with fiba the bal in africa

[@Eggstuff.]

i will choose euroleauge over nba or any money

[@glaucogandini8401]

Clickbait

[@steliosioannou2800]

Is this the end of your programme..? The title text it's so rong (free tip)

[@john_DT]

Playing a sport to win! Outrageous....shame on you Europe!!!!

[@thetalker.7304]

Say that to Lakers they can’t even win 500% two last years they missed the playoffs in tournament.

[@rataplan2997]

Dude, 4 real... Australia and Japan are like playing football in QATAR or the UAEs...

[@shadow8492]

Simple solution : Give the players more money..

[@ViktorMorawitz]

I think its a little overreactive. The NIL will benefit maybe 10% of the European talent and they would go probably D1 anyway in majority of the cases. G League is trash and mostly Americans will occupy the best paid spots. Australia is not concern, Ball and Sarr were exemption not rule. Level of competition there is so much lower than in Europe as well as the salaries. Japan and China might be different story. They can attract the US talent that is not NBA material through money and exposure. Yet there is still many highly talented players playing around the world or leaving college, that will be attracted by playing in Euroleague. Also there is a lot of talent within the national leagues itself in countries like Spain, Italy, Greece, Germany. Euroleague teams just have to figure out how to more effectively develop talent while maintaining the win now mentality and reliance on experienced players (nothing wrong with that).