Is this the Last Time we see Wesley Bryan on the PGA Tour? | Rough Cut Golf Podcast 102

[@NextFairwayNorm]

Elvis Smylie won the Australian PGA. His Mum was a tennis star. He is one of the young Aussie golfers Cam Smith has supported through junior golf

[@chriswallace4402]

Enjoyed the pod. Just a heads up, but by finishing between Nos.126-150 on the points list, Wesley will have conditional status on Tour next year. He also has Past Champion status that will get him into some events, and he can use sponsor invites to get into events as well. He'll get as many Tour starts next year as he did this year, if not more. He also has the option to play Q School final stage in a few weeks, where the top five earn Tour cards. I haven't seen if he'll play but I would guess he will. He did last year. Anyway, his PGA Tour situation for 2025 is far less dire than you guys made it out to be.

[@BrianBowman-mw9vt]

Exactly, I’ve seen several podcasts making it sound like the #126 player loses all of his playing privileges and is completely out of a job! How do they think he got into all the events this that he did this season?? The downside to having conditional status is it makes it harder to plan a schedule. He won’t be able to pick and choose which weeks he wants to play, but he’ll get 15-20 starts at least.

[@kellisfh]

Thanks for clearing this up for a new fan!

[@Jamii.pages.]

I have been watching Peter and Rick right from the beginning. I have always hopes and wished that someone from the KZbin Golf Community comes out here to South Africa! I am sooo excited about Peter coming over! We have amazing courses, view and of course wine! Let's GO!!

[@Gordon-and-Ambers-Walks]

Kieran with his favourite jumper on AGAIN 😂😂😂 hope the washing machine gets fixed soon, love the shows 👍👍👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

[@jaysteveo9632]

He's just a hawk Tua(h) enjoyer.

[@roberthiggs9105]

Quality once again lads.... and Manhunt UNAbomber top series! Haha

[@RoughCutGolfPodcast]

Glad someone got the reference!

[@fanieroos7756]

From South Africa, you are going to love it. You have to go play Skukuza!

[@emilespamer]

SOUTH AFRICA!!! Finally! Please play De Zalze when wine tasting and let us know would love to come watch 🎉🎉. Some of the best courses in the world you are going to love it!

[@emilespamer]

At least let us know when and where 😉

[@steveputland4324]

Might be the number 1 Golf Podcast “across the world” but the show is the number 1 laxative when Mick’s on !

[@RoughCutGolfPodcast]

Thanks Steve! We love it when you comment.

[@steveputland4324]

@@RoughCutGolfPodcast 🤣🙏👍

[@grahambrown7720]

Really enjoyed that!

[@davidmitchell7624]

Would love to see a slow mo vid of Peter and Rick running to the theme of Chariots of Fire....Queue up the short!!

[@garymiller4616]

You will love the golf courses in South Africa, especially if you're playing something next to a national park like Leopard Creek

[@RussellRen]

🇿🇦🙌🏽🙌🏽 Spoilt for choice with sooo many Top world class courses over here! And yep, so many other great things to do! 🍷🍻☀️🦁🌊

[@aullendebruin9286]

PETER FINCH!!! I am in South-Africa and I would absolutely LOVE to meet you guys somewhere. Are you planning on playing any golf course in Johannesburg during your time here?

[@BillytheCon]

Elvis Smylie was the young Australian golfer who won the Australasian PGA Championship. He is also leading the Order of Merit for the season.

[@danscowtrap5252]

For ideas, you could do a tournament with the big KZbinrs of England. You could do a break 60 from the forward tees. You can do a series with famous soccer players. You could do a break 75 with old sets of clubs. You could a ran and play so you play a game as fast as you can. You could do a series where you play in the worst weather but no lighting play safe. Just a few ideas I hope they help and if you take a idea I would not mind a shout-out.

[@DrPatenaude]

Spot on. As an American, I hate that we made money. Part of it. Tried an honor are way more than enough keep this event special. The ticket prices suck, but it is the market so I’m not really sure what you do with that.

[@TbMcB]

Idea for content. Years ago there was a twitch channel that had the chat controlling the game, it was enitely based on comments. Twitch plays pokemon. Pete plays live, poll during him walking between shots, most popular choice on club he uses, can't use the same club twice on the same hole. Break 90

[@3nCounting]

(16:10) Wesley has conditional status for the 2025 PGA TOUR Season because he finished 128. Finishing 125 through 150 qualifies you for "conditional status" which means he has "Special Temporary Membership by earning equivalent non-member FedExCup points to No. 150 on the prior year’s standings. Special Temporary Members then can accept unlimited sponsor exemptions through the remainder of the PGA TOUR calendar including the fall portion, upon crossing the STM threshold (non-members can accept up to seven sponsor exemptions in a season). Players who earn Special Temporary Membership also secure a spot in a conditional category on that season’s TOUR Priority Ranking". Plus... as a past winner, he will play in the RBC Heritage too. So he will have more chances this coming year (2025) than last to improve and secure his spot for 2026 (despite the new changes) since he finished OUTSIDE the 150 in 2023. It will only become MORE difficult after next season because only the top 100 will keep their tour cards... so another 50 players will lose their tour cards and NONE of them have a KZbin career to fall back on!

[@bhorstmann86]

Legend! You'll love South Africa. The courses are amazing. The food and drink is great. The people will make you feel very welcome.

[@gerardsmyth1258]

Idea for a Bryson type video .. Do a forfeit ..like have to jump in the sea ..example .. However to avoid this you start of with 20 golf balls to hit a target x amount of metres away ..next day 19 next 18 ..so it's a countdown .. If you succeed ..redo another different forfeit ..different amount of golf balls start with 10 ??

[@calross7143]

About the DP Tour golfers and how they feel about LIV players back on DP Tour and the Ryder Cup participation: How does the DP Tour golfers feel about the top 10 golfers every year going to the PGA and still have all the benefits of being a DP Tour golfer...? Sounds like 6 of one and half a dozen of the other. Golfers work is golf...and they should be able to play where they can earn the best money. If one doesn't join or isn't invited to join, what gives that one the right to criticize and sanction the ones that do...? PS: Cam went back to Australia and placed in top 3 in the 3 events he played so far. Dean Burmester went to South Africa, played 1 and won 1 (Last year he won 2 and Louis Oosthuizen won 2)...so obviously LIV golfers are still as good and even better than the golfers on other tours...even playing on LIV where some people money and winning doesn't matter...just saying

[@sabianmcleod]

Pete and gang, do some sort of wild golfing challenge. How about the Peak District, par 500. Getting from one village to another?

[@galaxy-1969]

I thought you were doing a major cut video with the boys. Do another with Rick when they are there? Done 🙌

[@geoffanderson7911]

According to the Interweb, the Showdown ‘thingy’ doesn’t take place until Dec 17th.

[@ryandemorney319]

Oh wow!! Coming to come visit us in South Africa 🇿🇦 can’t wait!!! Legit really hope to see you even if in the passing…how do we follow or support your tour or trip…

[@ryandemorney319]

10-11 cases in this heat is going to be interesting 😂…by the sounds of things you’re going to be in the Paarl or Stellenbosch…maybe even the Steenberg/Constantia area…excited for you!!! I’m thinking of sick leave jist to “happen” into you 😅

[@angelarichards3588]

Love you lot making a liv team. 😂 . You really would make a great team😂😂

[@stevenjenkins3882]

400k. Yeah I need my money 💰

[@antonk27]

You will love South Africa! Just don’t leave any valuables out of site at any time or at least make sure your insurance is up to date

[@tazire]

The big problem I have with the Ryder Cup is someone is getting paid.... and getting paid a hell of a lot of money. I mean think about it... its got the highest income of any golf tournament with the lowest cost. 0 player cost.... 0 prize money.... I mean if the millionaires (players) arent making the money then the billionaires (tv executive etc) are making ALL the money!!! I know who I'd rather see get the money. I dont like making it about money but there is too much of it involved for it to be ignored too.

[@altie29]

Wes didn't "lose" his card, he didn't even have one in 2024. He just missed out on securing it for 2025. He basically had 0 status to begin 2024 but got a sponsor's invite in the Dominican Republic and finished 2nd which gave him access to a bunch more events and the fall series.

[@BrianBowman-mw9vt]

Exactly, and next year he’ll have conditional status for being 126-150 which will get him into a dozen or so events and also allows him to accept unlimited sponsors exemptions. And if he plays well early next season it’ll open up more chances to play if he wants to. These guys make it sound like if you finish 126th you’re out of a job completely!

[@craigvn1]

@@BrianBowman-mw9vt Yes. With 50 events, and most guys playing around 28-30 a year, it make sense that they are going to have to fill out a lot of fields with guys 126+ on the OOM. Wes could probably quite easily play 20 events next year if he wants.

[@jamesbrennan3449]

Just watching Pete covering his eyes has given me an idea a la Bryson. Blind 30 foot putt? You’re only allowed to see the hole whilst walking up to the ball to take the putt then must hit the stroke without visual reference to the hole. No assessing the lie, either. Thoughts? 🤷‍♂️

[@krynauwcoomans9312]

Lekker Pieter Fiens, share your schedule for SA so we can teach you some words in the taal like what Ernie uses on the course.

[@Kid_Senekal]

Hope you enjoy our amazing country 🇿🇦 pack enough sunscreen and a wide brim hat!

[@ericjencson9489]

The beard looks good when it's trimmed up Peter.

[@garethshepperson523]

South Africa 🥳😊

[@mikebrownphotography2784]

You are going to love South Africa!! 🇿🇦 where are you going to play?

[@woburnwoes]

South Africa 🇿🇦 should be fun, try not to get eaten boys 😂

[@Jackdale101]

You didn't mention Wedgely shot a course record 61 in Bermuda and was in contention ! Unfortunately the next, final, day, he blew up and shot a 77 ?? That cost him his PGA card.

[@raymondmassie4898]

South Africa is a golfing Mecca. So many fabulous courses and at reasonable prices. You’ve got to attend a braai and get meat straight off the coals

[@jonathan_howevideography]

you should hit a shot from Dunvegan to 18th hole at st andrews

[@wadepreston3401]

I’ve been waiting for Bryson to shank one and take out a big expensive window😂

[@Tiyokb]

I might watch LIV if there’s a KZbin team! Do it!

[@enemyvirus]

Footballers do get paid for playing for England (about £2000 a game), but they generally pass all pass these payments to charity and have done since 2007.

[@mistercal]

Pete and the gang, I lived in South Africa for 5 years as an outdoor instructor, spent my time travelling across the entire country. I'd do anything to go back, simply the most amazing place in the world and the people are incredible. Don't let the media paint a horrible picture of this place due to crime, it is magnificent.

[@christopherwilkinson8796]

We’ve conquered all of Europe! We’re never gunna stop We’ve got big Shane lowery flying the shamrock! We’re coming to New York To win the fucking lot We’ve got Jonny Rahmbo and Tommy’s lushes locks Allez! Allez! Allez!

[@mekan0001]

Um... World Cup Players do get paid to play. By their federations.

[@kennethmckinney2532]

I hope Wes gets signed by Jon Rahm's team since they are good friends. If not once some big names sign with LIV in the next couple months Wes will move up inside the top 125 anyway...

[@sc0rtch]

Yay Peter! My fav youtube golfer coming to my country and home (cape town). You will so enjoy the golf courses here.

[@chrisgolfer7528]

It's very simple to understand the situation with the Ryder Cup. The Europeans turn up with a bonded team playing for the pride of the competition, the USA turn with a bunch individuals.

[@marklayfield5213]

Where are you heading in SA?

[@Deadhorseflogger]

International footballers do get appearance fees but England has an unwritten rule that the money goes to charity

[@greggrappoport1101]

Pete you coming to my home country....how i would love to meet you. What courses are you playing?

[@jasonvaneck4689]

Where in South Africa are you coming?

[@grahamsmith8267]

Are you playing Durban Country Club while in South Africa? Host of the 2025 SA Open

[@jonte8748]

To loose your card you have to have one in the first place. Or am I missing something?

[@quickgaming4792]

Man I am South African as well. Man would be great to see you here, you are so going to love it!!

[@ianh2295]

LIV players is good for the DP World but also within the rules so hey it is fine

[@jeffleuthard7000]

I see that PC' protest last year (not wearing a hat) was true. I also believe the PGA is worried about losing players to LIV, so is finding ways to pay the top players more money.

[@sfdutoit1]

What courses are you playing in South Africa?

[@howardkennerley4679]

He'll get plenty of starts next season , a full card will be a formality

[@camden1977]

He’d be more valued and earn more of a living if he joined LIV. It would also allow him an opportunity to shoot more KZbin vids with a less taxing schedule than the PGA Tour.

[@Freespeechmedia-r2x]

Liv would benefit so much in terms of viewership. Wesley would bring in so many new eyeballs to Liv that are very much needed!

[@PIP-zf9yb]

​@@Freespeechmedia-r2xhe wouldn't do much for liv and I'm a fan of Wes and a fan of liv. Love is doing very well outside of the US which is where they are focused on. They will be bringing in more big names for 2025. Wes could still get his full card if enough people leve otherwise he will play basically the same schedule this year as last

[@inb4230]

by "be more valued " you mean getting sht for nothing,for having a KZbin channel(it exists thanks to George, wesley put as much effort into that as his tour card tbh)?? He was valued on the pga tour, his level of golf WASN'T, ya'll crack me tfu "pga tour is so mean took a youtubers card because he couldn't keep it. foh with the handout mentality, his brother's been taking enough handouts by playing in these tournaments taking a spot from someone that is grinding spending their own money on the feeder tours all year. Wesley bryan lost his card because he didn't grind enough to keep it,too good to go to the gym according to himself (guess what,rory and scheffler still work out every day),practice rounds every single time "zero warm up as per usual ",GOOD LUCK keeping your card against guys WAY more sharp and talented than you doing that. One thing I do give you, he's liv material no doubt about that, that's his level

[@PIP-zf9yb]

@inb4230 he played very well this year with the limited opportunity's he has. Him getting his card isn't a big deal as he will play roughly the same amount of events next year. He just shows up and plays and doesn't want to grind like others do nor does he need to as he does so well outside of the pga tour. People are truly ignorant on his situation he isn't the average joe

[@inb4230]

​@@PIP-zf9ybthat is exactly my point, wesley got his card and after that he didn't want to grind on his fitness/game and people keep saying he should be "more valued ",wtf does that even mean,they should just give him a permanent card over the guys that grind 7 days a week on their game?Doesn't work like that, FORTUNATELY it doesn't. By playing exemptions only his game should've been AT LEAST as sharp as some of the guys living off a suitcase playing weekly he had nothing but time to raise his level, he simply didn't and he paid the price and there's all there is to it,implying the tour should give wesley bryan preferential treatment because his brother maintained a KZbin channel (because wesley was well over it for several years he was in a couple videos a year at best)is ridiculous, we have enough of athletes taking someone's spot/racing seat because of who their relatives are.If I heard wesley bragging about how much he worked on his body and game I would be gutted for him, I only saw him bragging about how he hasn't set foot on the gym in years, barely practices and never warms up, so I'm not, you take out what you put in unfortunately..

[@briantulloch7222]

Talking about shoes, im the opposite, shoes for hiking better golf shoes thsn fj etc, goretex, strength, stability, comfy, hard wearing and often half the price.

[@JBC20111]

As a South African, SA has to be one of the best golf destinations in the world and it's so overlooked. Especially if you're coming to my home town, George, the courses around here are incredible. Hope you've got some of them on your radar! 🇿🇦

[@marioreetz3957]

I'm not Peter Finch but still planning a trip to George. Your top3 courses?

[@timo31zz]

I you or your golf sim facility has GSPRO, play The BAD Challenge and hit balls over Bryson's house.

[@johnjoseph9536]

I’m prettt certain GSPRO has created a mock up of brysons house for the challenge.

[@nicholaslang8032]

Buzzing you off to South Africa. Can’t wait to see the courses you play!

[@Lliam439]

You're going to have a great time in SA.. check out simola, pinacle point, goose valley and of course fancourt.. you'll never look at uk golfing the same again

[@raymondmassie4898]

Pinnacle point is in my top 5 courses I’ve ever played - love the place

[@JVlife22]

The crazy part of all this, is I can NEVER get to see Wesley Bryan on tour. He has a million followers. When he’s playing I know the tour gets a boost because of all his KZbin followers. Yet the tour won’t show anything. Remember George’s Debut and eagles a shot NO ONE saw (live). Wes you are awesome F the tour I know you from your channel. Through your channel I have seen and gained respect for all the pros that have come on Bryan bros channel. Honestly in my opinion, the tour doesn’t present golf to the public as good as you guys do. Keep it going, really to all you guys. You bring golf content that is purely amazing. Shout outs Ric George Wes Grant Peter Good good guys Busta n Jack Yep even DOD NOT Micah 😂😂😂 he sucks. I just don’t like that he talks like a tour player. My guy, play your lane and you will get more followers.

[@grantadamson]

A KZbin Ryder cup needs sorting

[@ianh2295]

Payment for playing for your Nation does not feel right but other tournaments such as the world cup or Olympics pay based on performance so reaching quarters etc or getting on the podium.

[@travishensberg8399]

Pete you are going to love South Africa. Take you a bet you wont want to leave...

[@JBC20111]

Reading through the comments, and you've got a lot of South African subscribers!

[@shaneskinner8722]

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE let us know your planned itinerary while you're here in SA!!!!

[@travisbeard9394]

Nicks takes on LIV are terrible. Who says Cam Smith isn’t playing well? He hasn’t won a major in a couple years, but I don’t think he has missed a cut either.

[@mattburman7288]

Yeah poor take. Lots of tour players haven't won majors either.

[@Hudnut52]

Wes is currently the main part of the PGA that I follow besides the majors. Gutted.

[@boganpainter1638]

Wesley Bryan didn't "lose his card." He didn't have a card this season to lose. He was playing on past champion conditional status which he will continue to have next season. Had he finished in the top 125, he would have earned a card, but that would have only got him into a couple of additional events next year. Considering he will need to finish in the top 100 next year, it is unlikely that he will finish that high with the few events that he would get in with full status or conditional status.

[@BrianBowman-mw9vt]

He’ll actually have a better status at the start of next season by finishing 126-150 this season, it’s a notch above the “Past champions and veteran members” category. However, he needs to play well at the start of the season because after 4 events all of the players in the 126-150, Past champs and veteran members and special temporary members get shuffled into a single category and ranked based on their current FedEx Cup points. And after every 4 events that list gets reshuffled. The higher on the list you are, the more events you get into. If he plays well to start the season he should be able to get close to 20 starts, assuming he gets some sponsors exemptions also.

[@christopherwilkinson8796]

Pete to use a new putter everyday until he holes a 10ft put for anything that isn’t Par 😅

[@antonyhemsley1516]

On the Ryder Cup thing, what does The PGA of America do with the money? If they don’t plough all the profits into grass roots/growing the game, then the players deserve it more than a corporation

[@duncanbush453]

Go Tubers 🤣

[@lancehancock6900]

You do get paid for an England or France call up for football FYI

[@peglegjohnson2377]

Tony Finau rumors already swirling and he won't potentially be the last. I can see enough top 125 guys going to LIV that Wes could get his card back.

[@fintanneville1859]

It's turning the Ryder Cup into LIV, all about money which destroys the tournament

[@mistercal]

Ludicrous idea for Pete - How many drives (1 a day) does it take Pete to hit a golf ball around the world (other smaller distances are available, country, county..... town....)

[@mikeprytherch8875]

The argument about footballers not getting paid is sadly incorrect, almost all top teams pay the players, some give the money to charities, but they still get paid.

[@rortys.kierkegaard9980]

If the pga tour reduces the number of exemptions down from 125, I doubt it…

[@thbrucigames1345]

A penny dropped when Pete said he was a news journalist. Always thought he had particular witt.

[@natethegreat3602]

And the reason the players want paid is because tv and the tours are making sooooo much cash off the backs of those players on the teams

[@markschulte-b4f]

Khashoggi

[@aussie5941]

I would not go to SA if my life depended on it. Good luck.

[@thishex]

Unpopular opinion? Break 50/60 scramble/best ball/course record is the McDonalds of golf content. The consequence for poor shots and the player's ability to negotiate trouble are severely diminished, leaving a bastardized shell of a game.

[@diegodicannio]

The part about football players not getting paid to play for their countries, are outright wrong. Each player is getting several hundreds of thousinds to get selection for the Euros or World cup squads.

[@TheBoothy111]

You say that but England team all give the money they get to charity, if they don’t it’s a very bad look on them from the rest of the team.

[@ddeboy002]

eh Won't be back-he's said his thank you to PGA and knows YT pro golf is here.

[@Golfin.d]

If Wesley has a desire to be on the professional golf stage he should go after his dream. My perspective of Wesley and George they should create more Creator Classic type tournaments for KZbin but have a live element with live mics and rise through the popularity of you tube something the PGA or Liv is not going all in on. You tube is more relevant to everyday people and the pro tours are just becoming more of an elitist club. Have creators that are going all in on KZbin and rising tides raises all ships.

[@lutonclaret]

$750 a ticket, perfectly reasonable for players being paid

[@stevenmclean2698]

American Ryder Cup players should be ashamed if this is the case, Make them donate the money to golf development in there local areas

[@squarehat]

Ryder Cup money should not go to the players but to promote golf to the younger generation rather than the players

[@robertmasson9074]

they are not waiting for bryson to get the hole in one theyre waiting for him to shank it into his living room

[@ianstoddart8587]

It was something stupid...obviously! 🤣🤣🤣

[@christophermeggison2986]

Bryson SPOILER ALERT!!

[@bustinya2240]

Wes has been vocal about just doing youtube vids. He don't want the grind of the tour.