Is This The Most Accurate CCW | KDS9c | Navy SEAL

[@frogmantactical]

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[@nomore8042]

Have you ever shot a F&N FNX45 Tactical ??? I used to be a 1911A1 Government Model EDC guy. Until I bought the other.

[@BLACKWOLF-1911]

From an older man, your explanation on manipulating the thumb saftey was spot on. I thumb it off as soon as I clear the holster. People shouldn't fear 1911s/ 2011s because of the saftey.

[@tngtacticalmiata1219]

Same here.... I've been carrying this type for so long I'd feel weird without that safety on the draw. It's just part of the motion, now....

[@jcfindley380]

Maybe. They shouldn't fear it, but they better be willing to put in the training reps if they haven't been carrying one for a while. It took me six months of daily work to be 100% subconsciously competent flipping it off every single time I drew the weapon.

[@ryanfirst9761]

Yes. Depending on what I’m doing, I’ll usually carry either an Sig 320, 365 XL, or a Colt LWC. The 365XL and the LWC thumb safety operates in the same manner. My 320 doesn’t have a safety, but I use the same draw for all my handguns. 7:58 My thumb is always high on the slide when I draw, and I easily slide it downward to take it off safety. I use the same position no matter whether there is a safety or not. One day I would love to own a double stack 1911A1, but they are out of reach right now.

[@Justin7Wooden]

Same from a “younger guy”. I’ve been carrying a 1911 style handgun for a long time. I mainly carry a P365 simply because of the size and capacity. Before I rotate between the 2 I get familiar with the thumb safety again but I’ve never had a problem with a 1911 style safety. If my handgun has to have a safety, I prefer it to be 1911 style

[@corynelson4512]

Everybody hates on Kimber, 😂 I own several and I have personally never had even one mechanical problem with my weapons. Perfect in every way. I do not own a KDS9C at the moment but I plan to change that. They're made in Alabama now so there is a good chance that the added Southern craftsmanship will add even more reliability to these beautiful 1911s.

[@I_Might_B_Wrong]

Cohen did a number on their reputation in the few years he was CEO and cutting corners on the quality. Kimber's reputation before Cohen was golden, they were considered an absolute top quality maker. Post Cohen, they're still trying to get that reputation back. When Cohen was CEO, a Kimber that had problems was more common than one that ran well - no exaggeration. They've been quality again for years now, but it's hard to come back from the damage Cohen did to their reputation.

[@jonn8163]

My wife carries a little kimber 380 1911ish pistol. I cringe and suggest something better with a little more ummfff but I can’t complain bc she’s so accurate with it and it’s held up with a crazy high round count for what it is. Better then a shape stick

[@kengroat7992]

Probably a bel air….. nice little pistol.

[@PsychoBeast017]

380 can be pretty stout nowadays with the right ammo

[@davidpatrick3591]

I must have gotten a lemon! I sent mine back.i couldn’t get through 100 rounds,I have many failure to feed issues

[@REYisKING]

Frogmen from Texas and 1911's, like trucks and muscle cars are peak Americana. 👍

[@jclinthicum3058]

I met girl once, her name was Kimber, I asked if she was a pistol. She said Yes. I will never forget that woman.

[@markreed2576]

Love my Raptor. FYI Kimber manual says do not slam the slide Forward on an empty chamber or drop the hammer on an empty chamber..

[@tedbou]

No reason yo do either on any pistol.

[@jeffstahl1318]

I own and shoot many 1911s Kimber products are top shelf you shoot it pretty well for a Glock guy lol

[@jeffw4942]

I own this and I'm very happy with it. No issues at any time with any ammo. Very accurate. I own 5 Kimbers and I have absolutely no issues. Not sure why someone would hate on Kimber. Thanks for the video

[@tw4143]

Well, if the Frogman likes it. I guess I better start looking for some OT.

[@richardthomas6602]

When holstering, applying upward pressure on the thumb safety reduces the chances unintentional discharges to zero.

[@scottydoo330]

thank you for your service. ive ran my springfield TRP .45 for 10 years as a sheriffs deputy. i changed the extractor to a Aftec seff adjusting extractor and a tooless guidrod. other than range ammo problems its quite the smoke wagon....

[@jamesstockton3777]

Colt Defender, best 1911 compact carry

[@johnfowler6297]

Great video, hoping to get out training more when I get back from San Antonio for a month at JBSA.

[@kahunaal1631]

Good video. If you do another, add “decocking”. Always a good thing to understand imo.

[@ahiraband3939]

Kimbers specifically the several ive shot did not lfunction so hot. Have multiple 45 acp 1911 that have never been an issue other then 1 that came with a real gritty 7lb trigger that was easily resolved.

[@llend07]

I train in the exact manner you’ve explained. Thank you for education

[@tommybenford9891]

Have had more issues with my kimbers more then any other gun I ever had. I’d trust a hi point before I’d trust a kimber.

[@danclas5983]

Thanks for showing the KDS9c to us, glad you like it. I'm definitely gonna check it out, been wanting a DS 9 for a long time. The fact it's a Kimber doesn't bother me a bit, I have five of their 1911's with thousands of rounds of factory and reloaded LRN and SWC ammo and have never experienced the unreliability problems I've heard on the internet. 100% on what you said about carrying a 1911/2011, cocked, locked and ready to rock!!!

[@cnclife2739]

People seem to have a love/hate relationship with Kimber.

[@rayswiatek5948]

Wilson or Staccato is the way to go.

[@robertsalyers1351]

Way more expensive for the same thing

[@RayEvangelista70]

You should do a top 5 list for handguns, ar-15, ar-10, and maybe others.

[@BoeriuEdward]

Yes, pleaseeee

[@jamesdelong6401]

Very nice pistol. Love the bobtail design. Yes, practice, practice, practice. 💯. On how to carry a 1911. Cocked and lock

[@-RONNIE]

Thanks for the review it looks & performs nice👍🏻 I probably said before I do not have a designated primary EDC I carry 7 different sidearms however I do carry the same ankle backup everyday. My Monday gun is a 2011 model the STI DVC Tactical 5.0 with a light. Ever since I bought that it's been going strong.

[@ItsGoodintheWoods]

I want one of these......

[@JessSmith69999]

Wilson combat mags with the advanced plastic follower +p rated.... no other mag is the same its the only one for a kimber worth buying

[@jclinthicum3058]

Thank you Brother. JESUS LIVES

[@scottysupermoto69]

Great review! Love my kimber KDS9C in stainless. I appendix carry it everyday and I am a smaller framed guy, 5'7 145lbs. Had failure to load issues out of the box, sent it in, 2 weeks later I had a flawlessly operating gun. I was disappointed, now I couldn't be more happy. I have around 2,000 rounds through it now, not one single fail to feed/fire or other issue. I shoot Speer Lawman 124gr tmj.

[@Texze]

Do you have a non rail or railed model?

[@scottysupermoto69]

@@Texze non rail. Was never set on running a light and I'm a sucker for shiny objects

[@scottysupermoto69]

I forgot to mention what kimber did for service. They replaced the extractor, polished the breach face, disconnector track, and further polished the feed ramp.

[@georgezener9527]

Does it have a firing pin block? I would be a little nervous carrying a gun AIWB with nothing but a thumb safety.

[@Texze]

@@georgezener9527 they have a titanium firing pin, and are drop tested. Not enough weight/momentum for the firing pin to ignite round.

[@SubUrbanNinja-EDC]

Thank you for a thorough review.

[@jeffmcclure4995]

Rost Martin Gun Co. has come out with a 9mm, RM1C at a more reasonable price than some. I'm wondering if you would check it out and let us know you think.

[@robdunham7398]

A Kimber that actually worked reliably? It’s a unicorn!

[@williammatthews2948]

I've owned three Kimber 1911's that were absolute junk. I'll never own another one.

[@ShepherdsSheepdog]

Kimber? Nyet. Glock is fine.

[@Vester1one]

@@ShepherdsSheepdogI bought one sent it to kimber, got it back and sold it within a month. trying tons of different brands and grains, still no luck. In my personal opinion and experience, I have not met a person who says they have had a good experience with Kimber.

[@rdh5961]

​@@Vester1one I got a Kimber Custom about 8 years ago and although I've only shot around 500 rounds with it, I've never had an issue with it. It seems to be very well built

[@gregmikk]

What? I guess you do not clean your gun before you use it. I have had issues with every gun I have owned coming out of the box(besides a revolver). Always clean and lube a gun before you shoot it for the first time. Gun makers are in the biz of making money, they will spray a gun with anti-rust(who knows what they use) and ship! I bet if you clean/lube with what you like they will work.

[@eddieweigel9490]

My buddy just got a Kimber KHX Ultra 9mm $1300 it’s a really nice weapon but it’s to much my Glock 43X and G23 will do the same thing these Kimbers do they are nice looking definitely thought feel good in hand

[@dennisl4000]

Thanks, nice review. I am not a fan of 3 dot sights and much prefer blacked-out rear sights. Over all it seems to be a lot of gun for the money. The Humble Marksman in his review of the gun said none of the internals were MIM. Two of the reviews have noted mounting screws stripping so that maybe of note. I did particularly enjoy watching your manner of draw and presentation. I have shot 1911s for decades with 3.5 pound triggers so light triggers are not an issue but they do require obtaining the proper feel to safely run them. I have owned Kimbers in the past, some good and some not so good. This one looks like it is going to be a winner if their QC is consistent.

[@frogmantactical]

Me too. I run blacked out front and back on most guns now.

[@MajorGrandpa]

I have the KDS9c and it worked well the first 100 rounds or more -- but after that, I've been having a lot of issues with failure to chamber, feed, and or failure to eject brass. It is definitely ammo brand finicky. Accuracy-wise, it's exceptional and that's with my tremors. My doctor/neurologist attributes that to the weight of the gun: the heavier the better. I will remove and tune the extractor because that is the most common failure. Hopefully, that remedies, at least, the extraction and possibly feed failures.

[@frogmantactical]

I’d suspect it would be ammo finicky as tight as it is. It’s going to like the better most common brands I’d assume.

[@jamesfischer4813]

You are better served with the Platypus or. Wilson Combat EDC X9

[@eddieweigel9490]

Jayson you can put some lead down range

[@Dive-Deeper]

Jason, for your money, the Bul or the Kimber? I've got a bet going.

[@Drizo41]

God bless you brother. Would love to have that one day.

[@joelclark2130]

Talk to me after five thousand rounds has been put through three or four pistol You have owned. Thanks kimber for making me scared.

[@EaglePass-w5n]

Hope kimber finally made a good1.. in all fairness and transparency is there any sponsorship or financial gain from Kimber or a special relationship with this channel or its creators for this review. Just a question to help make a decision.

[@frogmantactical]

No sponsorship. No relationship.

[@Dadx03]

I am envious of your Kimber. I just bought the same gun and it simply does not work. More than 50% of the rounds got stuck feeding into the chamber and jammed the gun. The gun simply does not feed from either of the magazines provided. thinking it might be the ammo I put several different brands through the gun. All brands had the same jam. Both magazines were fairly loose so maybe the mags are bad. I do not know the cause, but I do know I spent a lot of money to have a gun that simply does not work. This is probably the worst gun I have ever purchased. Really makes me sorry I bought a Kimber. I watched a lot for reviews and never say this issue, but while I was at the range some random dude walked up, said he just bought one (he had it there), and said he had the same problem. Really makes me wonder about the integrity of the gun reviews. How can all the review say the gun is great when two random guys at a range on a Friday afternoon, both with new Kimbers, have the same problem and not a single review caught this issue.

[@frogmantactical]

You can see the results on the videos of us shooting. What we find is most issues come from shooter error. 1911’s are very finicky and need to be stabilized as much as possible due to tight tolerances. If your grip isn’t what it needs to be or as you said possibly certain ammo which is extremely common, you will have the same issues. Now I don’t agree with that being ok. A firearm should fire, period. First issue when troubleshooting is always shooter error and because most don’t understand certain aspects of a 1911, the only place to turn is the gun or ammo. Send it this way and we will put it on video and see if it’s the gun or shooter error. Send an email to [e-mail]

[@YouDontKnowMe2011.9]

I don't understand when people talk about 1911s and malfunctions being prevalent. I've been carrying 1911s for almost 30 years, in one form or another. I've carried Kimbers, Sigs, Springfield, Staccato, and even a full custom and I've never had issues with malfunctions. Again, I don't get where you people are coming from.

[@rickkennedy5470]

Got 1 I love it

[@Neltonimo1017]

Hello sir, I saw one of your videos a while back and I was curious what attachments you ran on your rifle including the sling were?

[@tangoyankee7521]

Glock! perfection

[@georgboone6086]

Nice piece but I think I'd rather have the Bul Armory pistol you just reviewed.

[@joshuawashburn8157]

I love my canik

[@rodvan-zeller6360]

Jason, off topic question, have you done simunition pistol scenario training drills with a red dot and a flashlight mounted on the simunition pistol? Based on my similar training experience the brain ignores ant type of sights and point shooting reigns. What is your experience/opinion on this? Thank you in advance for sharing info.

[@frogmantactical]

I agree. It’s hard under low light/no light conditions to focus on the sights as they are not the dominant source. That is why red dots work so well but close quarters I point shoot all day long. Within 15’-20’.

[@rodvan-zeller6360]

@@frogmantactical Thank you for the reply. I have a lot of respect for you as a valid source of information.

[@justjoe34]

thanks for the great video ordered same gun few weeks ago cant wait for it to get here im glad you gave it a good review for pistol i have my glock 19 and been shooting 1911 lately and this goes with my kimber collection thanks again but still not trading in my glock 19 its always got place on me

[@frogmantactical]

Let us know how it works for you. 🙏

[@DRPaulk]

From my perspective as a long-time 1911 shooter (since the 50's) I don't think I would care to have one without the grip safety. All my 1911's are highly tuned, very light trigger. Occasionally, the pistols with ambi safeties will get bumped to off safe. With a really light trigger that's real bad... As to.the sight issue, I typically point shoot and have been running 1911's so long I get baseball size groups at 25 yds or less just from muscle memory. I'm sure you can do the same with your favorite piece. A double stack might be handy, though. Even though I'm very confident about putting a threat down at a reasonable range, engaging multiple threats that are moving with cover added mag capacity would be nice. I do count my rounds and practice mag drops at 8rnds (8+1) edc. That way I never have an empty firearm, and font have to take the time to run the slide unless I have a malfunction and need to taprackabang. As I said, my guns are highly tuned, and I have a malfunction very, very seldom. By the way, you can hit a man size steel in the chest at 100yds by aiming 10 inches over the head with a .45acp lol.

[@Bodaduchee]

45 acp is great but 8+1 is not enough ammo . Even if you carried3 mags thats 25 rounds. I gotta mag that holds 26 .

[@Bodaduchee]

I bought this gun and it shoots 5 inch low at 15 yards. I also brought 3 sigs and 2 springfield . I hit dead nutts bullseye with 2 1/2 inch groups with all guns except the kimber. Im gonna make adjustments on the elevation I guess. I think it should come sighted in at that price. $1400

[@markdentoneagles5909]

Great video brother!!! Semper Fi

[@thomasshoe92]

A Kimber that works ? Confusing times

[@williamtoney2599]

Jason, are you still gonna do a video on switching shoulders vs switching sides with a AR?

[@frogmantactical]

Too simple for a video. Just switch and practice. If you aren’t willing to practice, don’t switch. You’re better off sticking to strong side and just getting into the fight faster.

[@justinriley8651]

what do you think of the staccatos? cs? i shot one and it was pretty sweet.

[@BLACKNIGHT8990]

I just bought this gun and I love it

[@frogmantactical]

I really like it.

[@Chrispy89Chreme]

I wish I had time to care for a dog... til i do, my 10mm is my bf. Not very practical as a CCW for most, but ive become accustomed to it. As far as CCW, Still not practical as its very hard to fully conceale. But if you're like me, carry specifically for self-defense, and are willing to cooperate with police, it wont be a problem. Edit- In my state (Illinois) allows "reasonable concealment." Meaning you can actually have the grip of the pistol readily available. Meaning you can have your pistol sticking out of your waistband, legally. But it also means you're going to be confronted by police at some point because someone will freakout when they see the pistols under your shirt.

[@Chrispy89Chreme]

Just comply at that point. All you know is that they know you have a deadly weapon. Don't give those shakies a reason.

[@benmarks3669]

I have the Tac II

[@armyranger4403]

Count me in AWESOME performance

[@armyranger4403]

@ClickOnProfile1245 sorry can't accept prize. Please pass it on. Much appreciated .always watching and listening

[@RepentorPerish77]

This or the Bul Armory SAS II UL? 🤔

[@knightingale9833]

Is it even a 1911 if you can’t put 1911 grips on it

[@timtripp-e9x]

wilson sfx9

[@michaell397]

A Kimber performing flawlessly shocking? A Kimber performing flawlessly would shock a lot of people. Kimber has the worst Rep. of any mid tier 1911 platform. Beautiful on the outside, lacking on the inside. The silk Purse out of a pig's ear in full bloom.

[@SeanMatson]

Sticcatto c2 end of story

[@ML-bf7vw]

Is it better than the bul armory sas tac ii ?

[@willmallory9085]

Thank you. I'm a Canik Man, but will consider it.

[@Bodaduchee]

Canik sucks though

[@willmallory9085]

@@Bodaduchee WHAT!!! My shot group at 45 yards is 4 inches.

[@davidcleveland9815]

That is squared away 😎👍🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

[@johnnyc8065]

Give bul armory a try

[@robertgonzalez6159]

I’m on decided on a Kimber KDS 9C or Tisas BR9 carry

[@frogmantactical]

The KDS was surprisingly a very nice firearm. I’d carry it.

[@rob7635]

Definitely looks like you get a lot of gun for $1300 pretty cheap for a 2011

[@rodvan-zeller6360]

Under the adrenal stress of a surprise attack, as you lose fine and complex motor skills there is a chance of fumbling the safety?

[@frogmantactical]

If you don’t have it engrained in your mind, 💯 you will most likely fail.

[@rodvan-zeller6360]

@@frogmantactical Thank you for the reply.

[@Texze]

My non rail KDS9c in Black will be here next week, couldn’t justify the extra 300-400 for the railed version. This is my first Kimber, and honestly the only one that has ever caught my eye. Please don’t disappoint Kimber…

[@frogmantactical]

Let us know how it works. 🙏

[@Texze]

@@frogmantacticalgot my non rail KDS9c today, and after a thorough cleaning, I put 100 rounds of 124gr American Eagle through it. Flawless. Going to put a few hundred more rounds through it this weekend. Pleased with my decision, first Kimber, glad I gave them a go. If I had to nitpick, I’d say the Kimpro finish could be a bit more durable.

[@Smile-hp1xg]

Every kimber I own is amazing but this new kds9 is a pos, straight out the box jammed every other round, mags fall out, grips coming loose and it even knocked the sights off itself around hundred rounds in

[@frogmantactical]

Worked perfect for us. Not a single issue.

[@KnivesSurvival]

Wait you dont like 1911's why they shoot great.

[@PnP-td1mt]

Yeah my grand pappy’s kimber wasn’t a pos 😂

[@sambenge9140]

Never support Kimber. Kimber (at the yonkers location) was ensuring all ballistics were recorded for each firearm before it left factory. Kimber has never proven that this isnt the case at the Alabama location.

[@frogmantactical]

What does ballistics have to do with a firearm functioning? It fires, it fires. Ballistics is a cartridge concern not a firearm concern.

[@BravoJulietAlpha]

Shocked?

[@JohnDoe-i3q]

My Dan Wesson Specialist Commander. Kimbers stink.

[@jamesfischer4813]

Your experience with 1911's has been a joke. Buy garbage, get garbage.

[@itsmyownfreakshow]

This is a paid promotion...?

[@frogmantactical]

No.

[@itsmyownfreakshow]

@@frogmantactical Awesome! Thanks

[@zachaument]

Great content but it’s only grandpappys still carrying a 1911.

[@johnbuntin7188]

Haha, nope!

[@whatsup24_7]

1st

[@karateboy9089]

First 🤯

[@Treadstone-C.I.A.]

H&K only....

[@Johnsmosby33]

A 9mm is not a 1911. You can call a shit sandwich gourmet. It isn’t. A 1911 is 45acp, period, end of discussion. No crap, it will double stack, it is a puny 9 mil.

[@Danbae69]

Get a retirement home you boomer its 2024, fk you mean .45 acp over a 9mm