Meta is an issue that often comes with the power creep, that players instead of getting Creative they come with the most efficient solution, making multiplayers games/modes feel a bit samey.
@TwilightChomperEnthusiast9 ай бұрын
As an idea person and a TCG player, I think that the best way to go about fixing stale metas in online games is through weekly bans on certain things. For example, during one week, you cannot use Pea vine, Cold Snapdragon, or Ent, while week two you can use them, but not Monkiwi, Chest Nut, or Hot Date. The same would go for zombies, with attention being paid to make sure the only checks for certain zombies aren’t banned at the same time. (Another example: Plantern and Hot Date would never be banned in the same week that Bandit Zombie isn’t.)
@CuriousNeon9 ай бұрын
They could add banning either by force through their system or chosen by your opponent.
@Springtime5629 ай бұрын
I'm glad there's not much but of a meta in Crk kingdom
@TheUltimateCancerCell9 ай бұрын
@@TwilightChomperEnthusiastIrrelevant to your comment but I always thought that TCG meant 'The Card Game.' So whenever someone asked me, for example, if I play the 'Yugioh TCG,' my head instantly thinks 'Ohh... Yugioh The Card Game!' Yeah... I'm dumb. Sorry to intrude on your time, I thought I'd comment something that's also dumb. But have a nice day!
@dangng70799 ай бұрын
@@TwilightChomperEnthusiastisn't that just push them to the next most effective strategy ? and everything is the same again
@kingsuperbobboy9 ай бұрын
Unironically I find flags chinese pvp videos very entertaining so seeing a new one is a treat.
@flagzombie9 ай бұрын
I'm glad you enjoy them :)
@Spineless_I9 ай бұрын
Me too!
@Reactivity7609 ай бұрын
I mean most of his content is the chinese version and he has a platform with this honestly dying game hell even im watching it this is the only pvz content i watch
@DaNoob14859 ай бұрын
I actually managed to get Pea Vine on the random roulette it was featured on…. I can officially ruin the lives of every single PVZ2 China PVP player with this dangerous information you have given me. Thank you Flag Zombie >:)
@flagzombie9 ай бұрын
O_O
@theYeastBoi13329 ай бұрын
oh no
@thepotassiumgamer21379 ай бұрын
@@flagzombiefrom now on no pvp lawns are safe
@victoryking76889 ай бұрын
@@flagzombie, where's the fifth and final new zombie?
@DaNoob14859 ай бұрын
@@victoryking7688 the five zombies added are Troglobite. Glitter Zombie. Gentlemen Zombie. Robo Cone. And Turquoise Skull Zombie.
@TwilightChomperEnthusiast9 ай бұрын
I love the PvZ2C online mode in all of its broken, stupid glory. Looks like the Pea Vine Virus has made its way to Asia as well…
@Helukfar9 ай бұрын
I love PvP mode videos. I don’t know why it’s so entertaining. The best series after overanalyzing. Again, great video flag!
@Leothecat2way9 ай бұрын
If Monkeyfruit, Ent, Primal Peashooter and all the Vines were Banned, then it would make the mode at least 80% more enjoyable.
@IH8Reflorished9 ай бұрын
That would make offense way too strong
@Leothecat2way9 ай бұрын
@@IH8Reflorished Well, nerf the OP Zombies.
@buffete37539 ай бұрын
Yoooo another vs pvz chinese video , I missed those , amazing video as usual flag , keep the good work ^^
@NotQuartz9 ай бұрын
I have no idea why I keep watching thee pvp videos since I’ve never touched the Chinese version of PvZ myself, but I keep coming back every upload. Keep up the great work!
@ms.muffin75929 ай бұрын
Babe, wake up! New Flag Zombie video dropped!
@RambunctiousPerson9 ай бұрын
I wish arena was more like this in international version.
@sebastianalcones80189 ай бұрын
Fr, way more entertaining.
@Alt-q8r9 ай бұрын
Chinese arena is boring as hell
@deringjosuegarcia15319 ай бұрын
@@Alt-q8r Still better than international's
@TheFlame90108 ай бұрын
Hell naw
@larrymantic26359 ай бұрын
15:30 Adweck moment
@zellexy9 ай бұрын
when im in a balancing competition and my opponent is pvz2c (its an easy win)
@ShadowPeashooterEnjoyer9 ай бұрын
I am genuinely hurt by talkweb that Trog, one of my favorite zombies is this bad in multiplayer. I have an idea for a massive buff for him, so he starts at turn 6 and pushes a random number of ice blocks that each contain one of your turn 1-4 zombies in them
@Greengam-nk4vk5 ай бұрын
Wouldn't that be Underpowered?
@ShadowPeashooterEnjoyer5 ай бұрын
@@Greengam-nk4vk still better than the actual ability
@Greengam-nk4vk5 ай бұрын
@@ShadowPeashooterEnjoyer Sure,I Accept That.
@Greengam-nk4vk2 ай бұрын
@@ShadowPeashooterEnjoyer Fair,it would be more viable than what it is now
@DeliriousPersona9 ай бұрын
>"new pvz2c meta" >look inside >old pvz2 international meta
@tasertag75139 ай бұрын
Hide that powerlevel.
@saltysalt8449 ай бұрын
2:35 is it just me or the monkey fruit sound is unoticable? The music is very loud and i don't want blast my ear to hear the sound
@flagzombie9 ай бұрын
I lowered the in-game audio by quite a bit to not annoy everyone with Monkey's sounds.
@mctogo0019 ай бұрын
*You know it's a BIG update when the video is 1 hour long.*
@pea-c9 ай бұрын
Bruh every update is big 🧠
@sharktheguy32659 ай бұрын
22:45 the gentlemen are plentiful
@nisreenwarda35229 ай бұрын
I find all of these chinese pvz2 arena vids really entertaining because of how diffrent it is from the International pvz2 arena. So seeing another one after 3 months is nice.
@pedromartins68109 ай бұрын
Sir biffs theme is the literal perfect theme to put over such a chaotic match
@someguy32679 ай бұрын
As awesome as this video is, I have a shitton of repsect for the last opponet you showed off. Their hustle was nothing short of respectable, doubly impressive considering the shoddy deck and surviving till round/wave 17; godspeed that lad, godspeed
@ishowspeedplug28458 ай бұрын
if i could just watch you play this all day, my day would be the best ever
@penguinimptheinsane7749 ай бұрын
42:25 hang on, did this guy have 7 plants?
@Greengam-nk4vk5 ай бұрын
Pokra, Torchwood,Pumpkin,Pea vine,Aloe And Primal Peashooter, It's 6 Seed Slots for these
@hovinhhao5235Ай бұрын
@@Greengam-nk4vk You missed Mangosteen.
@Greengam-nk4vkАй бұрын
@@hovinhhao5235 sorry about that,i think i forgot it existed in the video,should have rewatched it more
@3cne8 ай бұрын
Sometimes the opponent aren't playing in the later part is because of that they already won on their own device, but not on the server(which still count as a win), which is a notorious win-win bug
@BobmiZeBobmi9 ай бұрын
No way it zombie flag upload video?!?!
@MuffinTheStudent8 ай бұрын
If they buffed troglobite to actually spawn anything OTHER THAN YETI IMP, he might be atleast somewhat decent Like give his ice cubes an order, first two spawn blockheads, the 3rd a weasel and the 4th a hunter and the 5th to 6th dodo's or so That would not only make him somewhat unique, it would also allow for a variety of attacks making it possibly harder for the enemy to defend all of that at once
@errorsans55288 ай бұрын
Why did potato mine spawn in the middle row in flags side on 35:14
@Vlyg118 ай бұрын
levelled explode-O-nut has a 10% chance to spawn potato mine upon death at level 2, and that percentage becomes 20% once it reaches level 3
@alechandro8926 күн бұрын
57:54 yeah. After a lot of re-thinking I feel like their idea was for him to be like , a long-term shield , where you spawn him early before a push and he keeps constantly moving things in front of your support without ever moving too far ahead and no longer being a wall for them They failed at that But i feel like they at least had some sort of idea with that
@alechandro8926 күн бұрын
59:57 wait , why is she especially pointless against primal peashooters? I mean , you get the immunity buff like VERY quickly after her so i don't think that's the issue What is it then? Does her special protection rainbow not protect against the lava or something like that?
@TheMistermastermario9 ай бұрын
they call it Pea V Pea mode because this is the meta
@Springtime5629 ай бұрын
28:37 wait wouldnt Digger break through easily i don't see any backwards firing plants
@LeoSinha-r6j9 ай бұрын
Can you do overanalyzing artifacts next?
@larrymantic26359 ай бұрын
Wow, new lawns! (I meant terrains)
@larrymantic26359 ай бұрын
What do you mean they announced new zombies? What are they? (Is that dreaded horse one of them?) (this is regarding the end of the video) (A user on the Reflourished server said that Swordman, torch monk, chicken wrangler, jester, & punk will be coming)
@larrymantic26359 ай бұрын
My predictions on where they’ll go on the ranking: Swordsman: Definitely F tier. Bro has a slow attack, and his only upside is not eating plants… but defensive plants is abundant (Explode-O-Nut, Hot Date, Ent), so he’s literally doomed out there. Torch Monk: probably same rank as Explorer (if not better) if they’re in the same slot. It’s a slightly faster Explorer with a bigger burn radius. Chicken Wrangler: Between B and D. Only thing going for him is unleashing chickens when damaged enough. Jester: B or C. I thought he’d be perfect to deal with the dreaded Pea Vine, but this is Chinese Jester. He’d be overwhelmed by the Primal Peashooters. Literally Nunchaku or Hammer would be much better. Punk: B? Sure, he’s a weaker Toy Car Imp, but I bet he’d do just fine.
@cn53-grantmichaellaurensma749 ай бұрын
I have a suggestion for a new video series! you can make videos about the levels in worlds that are not in the international version like renaissance, steam ages, etc that you find interesting or horrible, If there are new levels in international worlds you should also include those!
@grapesofwrath48629 ай бұрын
So as far as I can tell, it seems like gentlemen zombie stops gliding after it hops two plants…? Which is weird, because I’m not sure they do that on the normal game
@randomprotag93299 ай бұрын
I dont think they limited his total number of glides, its just past a certain closeness to the end he no longer glides.
@tombraiserzombie25819 ай бұрын
Maybe if the upgrades for weaker, F tier zombies increased all stats than just one, it would help?
@alechandro897 ай бұрын
honestly , if troglobite is to stay at it's spot then i'd say it would need to spawn AT LEAST buckethead (or blockhead) zombies instead of the imps to have at least SOME tankiness with the frozen zombies also having ALL of the upgrades you give him once they unfreeze , ig you could call it a long term investement and even then i'd be mid probably , but it would be better than shell still nowhere near glider , glider is THE win condition of the mode , it carries so many offensives whilst troglobite can only tank although it could at least be useful in SOME way
@JeromeShark9 ай бұрын
Hell nah I love pea vine and all but if pea vine is doing this shit to Robo-Cones 27:52 , then we need some balancing💀
@ACRocker9 ай бұрын
Wait till they add zombies that can reflect projectiles, that would absolutely counter any projectile firing plant
@JeromeShark9 ай бұрын
@@ACRocker Fair point, but considering how hard Excavator gets destroyed, I don’t have high hopes.
@Ahmedstrong-sp4kk9 ай бұрын
Seriously we need more uploads brother c'mon we know you can do it and we find your videos very entertaining so why not(also you are a champ , so never stop❤)
@maglev07899 ай бұрын
And yet, despite how much of a mess the history of this mode has been, the meta still focuses heavily on Monkeyfruit and Primal Peashooter
@ilikepurper11609 ай бұрын
Flag zombie Chinese videos go crazy
@ChinaResidence9 ай бұрын
1h video? We eating good tonight
@tadihotado35189 ай бұрын
A whole hour binge watch, yes!
@dullicecream9 ай бұрын
Also, I think the coming back after a few rounds might be a connection thing unfortunately…
@splitsee25269 ай бұрын
i only watch your videos specifically for the music
@Raphael._Souza1119 ай бұрын
Vai jogar o evento do zumbi sortudo do Reflo❓️❓️❓️
@tarakmandal36143 ай бұрын
My strategy is weasel bucket or robo cone Gentleman glider and ballon which works somehow although they can just bring tall nut but who bringstall nut?
@VitorgabrielMouraoGoncal-iq7wz28 күн бұрын
pizza Tower musics calzonification 30:52
@boukawa65539 ай бұрын
YEAH FLAG ZOMBIE !!!!
@kirbyhasn90479 ай бұрын
I hope they fix the pea vine problem Where it doesn't count with max plant limit to be counted as plant and not be exploited and be stupidly overpowered Perhaps it becomes much fairer plant instead of getting banned
@larrymantic26359 ай бұрын
If it counts as a plant, that means Level 5 Pea Vines are off the menu!
@kirbyhasn90479 ай бұрын
@@larrymantic2635 what do you mean? Flag zombie said that pea vine doesn't count as plant
@larrymantic26359 ай бұрын
@@kirbyhasn9047I’m meaning when they make it count AS a plant (if possible) to limit the dangers as shown during the few matches the dreaded Pea Vine did.
@WhynotTheTheory9 ай бұрын
I don't have cold snap what I can use to substitute? Also no Goo pea
@larrymantic26359 ай бұрын
You could use Snow Pea to deal with the explorers?
@WhynotTheTheory9 ай бұрын
@@larrymantic2635 Ye but it's not a good starter pick
@WhynotTheTheory9 ай бұрын
@@larrymantic2635 I'm using as lvl 1 Monkeyfruit and Hot date
@larrymantic26359 ай бұрын
@@WhynotTheTheoryoh. Not sure.
@WhynotTheTheory9 ай бұрын
Because snow pea get countered to Newspaper
@ishowspeedplug28458 ай бұрын
you say you play this mode all the time, is there anywhere I can watch sessions of that. I would legit watch you play for hours lol
@maxwellfine6999 ай бұрын
flag zombie I have a question for you what kind of plant is gluttony dragon based off of?
@venillacone9 ай бұрын
The last strat is just a mustache deck with a random garg
@Nojima688 ай бұрын
I would like to ask whether the Jurassic Bully can counter the pea vine meta, because I remembered in the third video about this pvp mode, you once said he can counter Primal Peashooter very well.
@TheToastBunnyProductions7 ай бұрын
No shot Have you seen how fast those Robo-cones died
@PixelZomboss9 ай бұрын
Hah tenth comment! Hi flag zombie! It’s me alternate universe zombie who’s pixels and actually relatively nice to associates! Hope you’re doing good and love your videos! Much better than “makeup monkeys”!
@Alt-q8r9 ай бұрын
The fact that F tear has the most zombies in it just confirms how bad talkweb is at doing their job.
@larrymantic26359 ай бұрын
And they’re literally bringing in ANOTHER F Tier zombie soon (Swordsman)
@UserNotFounf10101.9 ай бұрын
Can I ask how did u get Chinese pvz2 I never knew I wanna play it on my laptop
@Dwayne_LaFontant9 ай бұрын
What’s next? They add mega Gatling pea primal peashooter hybrid?
@larrymantic26359 ай бұрын
They do have Gatling Pea as a plant, sure not as broken as the International version
@Dwayne_LaFontant9 ай бұрын
I meant image if they added the mega Gatling pea that shoots primal peas
@larrymantic26359 ай бұрын
@@Dwayne_LaFontantoh god.
@tarakmandal36143 ай бұрын
Where peavine part :( I’m just watching right now
@CoralReaper7079 ай бұрын
Looks like not even china can escape pea vine
@InfiniteWater_9 ай бұрын
Won't Onmyoji Zombie still be a good counter to pea vine?
@Randish9 ай бұрын
He has too little health and way to slow and expensive
@randomprotag93299 ай бұрын
PV2C should not add vines to vs mode, its just not a good idea to add no limit cost plants
@neuralstrings80159 ай бұрын
flag zombie making this video to avoid thinking about the new realm:
@larrymantic26359 ай бұрын
What new realm? I’m curious to hear?
@neuralstrings80159 ай бұрын
@@larrymantic2635 he had a hard time with it you'll see when he makes the video
@larrymantic26359 ай бұрын
@@neuralstrings8015oh ok.
@whatswrongwithme9 ай бұрын
Just replace primal peashooter with mega Gatling Pea and BOOM! Just like the international version!
@mulitpower88279 ай бұрын
Welp I’m calling that the next update will basically kill this mode
@larrymantic26359 ай бұрын
Yeah, they’re calling the Cavalry
@vegiqvxqdgixdqgbqdxe1xgixv33t9 ай бұрын
Yes this is meta
@William_Jackson9 ай бұрын
nice pizzatower music btw
@Zs_dude9 ай бұрын
Hey @flagzombie sorry to bother you but your tutorial to install chinese pvz got deleted and i got the game from your method and i wanna update it but i cant a find a tutorial thats same as yours to install it if you can put it back or paste the update link here i would be thankfull have a nice day or night
@flagzombie9 ай бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/hWKyYWt5fdmYnac
@Zs_dude8 ай бұрын
Thanks for linking the video by the way did you pirvate the video becuse it no longer works or something?
@Andy_ShunRed9 ай бұрын
The next update going to add torchlight and then they'll be the most broken zombie in the mode....
@Mo2theSos9 ай бұрын
four minutes into the video i realized i was looking at the wrong half of the screen... yikes
@Herra_K9 ай бұрын
One hour of flag zombie's chinese pvz2? Dont mind if i do!
@joziboomanft9 ай бұрын
Anybody knows how to get this in America
@jacobg62995 ай бұрын
22:56 flag out of contact
@pandad3439 ай бұрын
HOW DO I PLAY THIS VERSION!
@huydezus56338 ай бұрын
Atleast this game mode was fun, look at the international, where is my i zombie mode 😢
@hanyuee11609 ай бұрын
I dont get it, how do you win?
@enderdudebruh82709 ай бұрын
reducing the opponent's health to 0 by letting zombies go through the opponent's flags thats on the end of their lawns
@hanyuee11609 ай бұрын
@@enderdudebruh8270 Oh I see! Thanks
@purplejc069 ай бұрын
5:39 LMAOO
@NotTochilkaIncCorp.9 ай бұрын
You get so much value from skill and put him at C? That's a steal.
@chaosjakeatron9 ай бұрын
Me when I see Pea Vine: I immediately watch the vid
@Ninja_grasshoar4 ай бұрын
Chinese people he playin against be like: why is this man’s name a foreign language
@thisisflexie9 ай бұрын
owie
@hanf-dive11619 ай бұрын
2 Questions: (1)Can you actually read chinese (2)why do you sound indian in your short but come from canada?or is that just how you speak?