Is this too much? I Newjeans - ILLIT similarities?

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Everyday WIZBIT

Everyday WIZBIT

Ай бұрын

Illit coping Newjeans?
#newjeans #뉴진스 #kpop

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@user-qm8ux8oj4h
@user-qm8ux8oj4h Ай бұрын
At this she is also right that its not illit fault but its company fault no hate to illit
@YunhelloYun
@YunhelloYun Ай бұрын
She’s not right. Not at all. You could say that she copied that concept from other groups, but has anybody ever said it? No. And the straight hair thing is just obsessive, more than half of the population has straight hair!! And about the concept, this is a minor group was she expecting a sexy concept? And these two concepts are completely different. I’ll it’s concept is dreamy while new jeans’ concept is y2k. And about the chirographies, all chirographies have AT LEAST one thing in common. It’s not identical at all, since when is copying called having a business? I’m glad that HYBE picked that concept for I’ll it. Couldn’t have picked a more suitable concept
@aliyatavares2972
@aliyatavares2972 Ай бұрын
​@@YunhelloYun who do u think is gon read ur big ah story
@aliyatavares2972
@aliyatavares2972 Ай бұрын
​@@YunhelloYunbut honestly I don't stand new jeans nor illit the concept is normal bc it is a concept but the dance moves are too much in one illit song they abou 5 or more dance moves that new jeans created
@hanakoanime157
@hanakoanime157 Ай бұрын
​​@@aliyatavares2972yeah I'm on your side
@motaharesadat525
@motaharesadat525 Ай бұрын
Did you even watch the video?!!!​@@YunhelloYun
@gazzakeh26
@gazzakeh26 Ай бұрын
She's right, everyone can do the y2k concept, NJ might introduce it to K-pop but it's not something completely new. But when everything is similar, from the outfit, poster concept, fonts, hairstyle, photoshoot angle, season's greeting concept to choreo's key point, not just once but many times. Then it's not a coincidence or inspired, it's targeted and it's embarrassing
@knightsky4438
@knightsky4438 Ай бұрын
"introduce" they made it popular in kpop but a lot of other goups have done that concept LUL
@cova5187
@cova5187 Ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣
@weridsiht
@weridsiht Ай бұрын
@@knightsky4438then reintroduce in their own way or repopularize because undoubtedly it’s after newjeans came with the y2k concept that it got even more popular
@actlepsy
@actlepsy Ай бұрын
newjeans literally copied a jpop group
@jintapatku
@jintapatku Ай бұрын
⁠@@actlepsydid u mean that one group in the ‘90s with the only similarity is the mv shooting spot? also that’s why it’s called Y2K concept like being inspired by the ‘90s…
@wonysung
@wonysung Ай бұрын
Stop trying to ignore the fact that she is right, this is too much to be just a coincidence.
@zehr_A_rmy_FREE_PALESTINE
@zehr_A_rmy_FREE_PALESTINE Ай бұрын
right? I guess you forgot why we see this women, oeps sorry, evil, eveywhere.. HYBE detected her plans to end BTS a few weeks ago, and now she tries to defend herself by talking about random lies. it is PROVED that she used BTS' money to promote her band, that she made plans to ruin BTS image when they are on military servoce, that she was the cause of the problems during the last few years. She joined hybe a few years ago, after working 16 years for SM! so OR you are blind to see this, OR you are like everyone and say "BTS enemy is my friend".
@Haruka_is_here
@Haruka_is_here Ай бұрын
GIRL ILY
@user-ns3sm5ll1d
@user-ns3sm5ll1d 29 күн бұрын
Fr everyone is blowing her up when she is right and now the public knows from the videos and pictures it is not illits fault it is there company who does this to them
@YUQIxIDLE
@YUQIxIDLE 29 күн бұрын
Real. They with hybe cause of bts, I'm with min hee jin cause she's saying the truth!!
@sunghoonlover12
@sunghoonlover12 27 күн бұрын
newjeans and jeans comparison now, it might be similar but min heejin is a hypocrite who has done the exact same thing
@deqthpunk
@deqthpunk Ай бұрын
“Dances can be similar in nature but it should NOT be INDENTICAL” so real omg. Thank you so much for the likes omg 😭
@peachydubu9755
@peachydubu9755 Ай бұрын
but thats the thing theyre not identical 😭😭
@cat12345678910ify
@cat12345678910ify Ай бұрын
@@peachydubu9755please rewatch the video. it clearly shows illit using new jeans specific dance moves across their entire discography. no shade to illit members as their doing their job.
@deqthpunk
@deqthpunk Ай бұрын
@@peachydubu9755 they kinda are tho and I’m personally a fan of both groups and I think they are copied
@Santia5a
@Santia5a Ай бұрын
​@@deqthpunknj with their "specific moves" is copying the previous groups choreography. And most important, why all this clips of "copying" 2 second long maximum?
@deqthpunk
@deqthpunk Ай бұрын
@@Santia5a they copied them with multiple things not just one dance 🤣 keep up bro
@ador_uu
@ador_uu Ай бұрын
I think most people are blinded by heejin's past controversies but she's right on this one.
@suhtoru8017
@suhtoru8017 Ай бұрын
Yea were in the present notthe past...I hate when people bring up past mistakes
@vizioned9135
@vizioned9135 Ай бұрын
How about present mistakes where she's leaking personal info to outside investors and looking to separate ADOR. It's because NJ is already so popular and successful, she doesn't want to be under Hybe anymore
@nickorlando1219
@nickorlando1219 Ай бұрын
@@vizioned9135Her some of the past controversies were wrong, but I do feel this time it’s right. Like How would you feel when your company using your own formula to bring the other artist more success and ignoring the original creators. Even In the first appearance of IILIT on the fashion week there Hairstyles were literally same as the all of New jeans members
@amnaa9305
@amnaa9305 Ай бұрын
@@vizioned9135has that even been proven, hybe said she did this but they didn’t release any evidence
@amnaa9305
@amnaa9305 Ай бұрын
@@vizioned9135also it would quite literally be impossible for her to try to separate hybe from ador since they own 80% she wouldn’t be able to buy them out even if she wanted to
@s1ren.0
@s1ren.0 Ай бұрын
the similarities isn't even an inspiration atp. hybe didnt even support nj's concept before their debut cus they thought this concept wouldnt bring more money but instead got proven wrong. after this specific concept got popular they debuted another group with literally everything the same. every company knows that debuting groups w same concept is a no go. now when mhj pointed it out,they are trying to bash her and snatch her position. hybe is a money hungry company.
@Sonny818
@Sonny818 Ай бұрын
And they didn’t like that they don’t have 💯 % control and profit. So now they are trying to disband NJ so the copycat group can take the spotlight. They aren’t even trying to hide it.
@Vor567tez
@Vor567tez Ай бұрын
I think that's where MHJ is upset. Hybe didn't support NJs at first. But now after seeing their success tried to replicate it through Illit.
@eggiemybaby
@eggiemybaby Ай бұрын
​​@@fosked6124 tbf, it was hyein's idea to have no promotion and Min Hee Jin think it's cool so they went with it and just dropped Attention like a bomb that even Bang Si Hyuk did not see it's popularity coming and making waves 😅
@ROBLOX_GAMES230
@ROBLOX_GAMES230 Ай бұрын
I agree😊
@omee9598
@omee9598 Ай бұрын
​@@fosked6124it was Hyein idea to debut without any teasers..
@Hhet1y_
@Hhet1y_ Ай бұрын
She’s right, everyone is making fun of her but she’s literally right about this.
@Haruka_is_here
@Haruka_is_here Ай бұрын
finally someone said that
@trulyvlogsxoxo
@trulyvlogsxoxo 27 күн бұрын
right. im not siding with HYBE or min hee jin, but nwjs and illit do look the same.
@Hhet1y_
@Hhet1y_ 27 күн бұрын
@@trulyvlogsxoxo RIGHT
@geekyourlikeslulu
@geekyourlikeslulu 27 күн бұрын
not everyone.. only non-koreans make fun of her....................
@Hhet1y_
@Hhet1y_ 27 күн бұрын
@@geekyourlikeslulu you dont have to be korean to side with a person. Some koreans side with her and others dont.
@maiissheart
@maiissheart Ай бұрын
this is the one time i will agree with her. ive been thinking this since they debuted and everyone thought i was crazy
@SOCHIQ
@SOCHIQ Ай бұрын
I LOVE how she defended illit from any other future backlash and directly called out the company only. I have mad respect for that
@royal_bee4534
@royal_bee4534 Ай бұрын
Except that NJ fans have been going after the ILLIT girls with hate since then.
@fyori7376
@fyori7376 Ай бұрын
​@@royal_bee4534she can't control their actions. Also ILLIT fans are also hating on the New jeans members. Every other hybe stans are hating on New jeans. Army's especially
@shutyoasssup
@shutyoasssup Ай бұрын
​@@fyori7376hybe was really sh"tty for bringing up BTS. Like it made no sense for her to say bts copied her etc etc. It's very obvious he's using this to gain Armys support and surprisingly (not) it's working. Everyone including Armys are against her wow
@peachydubu9755
@peachydubu9755 Ай бұрын
@@fyori7376but every single fandom in KPOP is hating on illit…. the small amount of hate njs is receiving is literally nothing compared to illit
@RachelMilktea
@RachelMilktea Ай бұрын
⁠@@peachydubu9755they both received so many hate, I support them both, it’s not their fault
@RedCherry365
@RedCherry365 Ай бұрын
I was shocked when illit debuted about the similarities with newjeans but never saw a comment that pointed out this situation so I thought this might happen to me only.
@aranu157
@aranu157 Ай бұрын
Never saw a comment? There were countless comments on their teasers alone and ppl kept saying no they aren’t similar, the hard core fans are delusional
@chesiresays
@chesiresays Ай бұрын
Be so Fr🤡
@mcape9490
@mcape9490 Ай бұрын
Me too. I thought it was only me. first glance in the vid and thumbnail i actually thought it was newjeans and i thought they made a comeback w/o any promotional activities. I felt something was off and i thought it was malicious copying not inspiration like baemon with Bp. Im not sure if mhj is just capitalizing on nj fans sentiment but definitely i felt theres a problem with the Illit debut.
@Foreshadow7
@Foreshadow7 Ай бұрын
Ah yes here comes the 'I KNEW IT'
@RedCherry365
@RedCherry365 Ай бұрын
@@Foreshadow7 I was stating what I felt.
@pablomuerta9452
@pablomuerta9452 Ай бұрын
Forget the choreo, the color theme, the concept, the first time i saw photo of ILLIT, i 100% thought it was New Jeans coz of the makeup, hair style, hair band and similar clothing
@indranibhattacharyaviiib6380
@indranibhattacharyaviiib6380 Ай бұрын
Many ARMYs are hating her. They are saying that she is lying, she is delusional and she hates BTS. But, she is not wrong. ILLIT is literally a copy of NewJeans! Everything feels the same. Even though it isn't ILLIT's fault, but they are copying NewJeans' concept. This will really bring a lot of hate to ILLIT. So, please don't hate Min Hee Jin Ma'am. Even though I am ARMY, but it's not right to hate like this. To all the ARMYs it's my humble request that don't drag BTS into this problem.
@SuL-tp9sy
@SuL-tp9sy Ай бұрын
이런 말도 안되는 잘못된 헛소문을 퍼트리지마세요!! 하이브가 언론플레이나 사이버렉카들을 이용한 트릭이라는것을 알아야합니다 명심하세요 민희진은 방탄을 싫어하지않습니다
@just.kazuhaa
@just.kazuhaa Ай бұрын
I never saw the similarities between ILLIT and New Jeans but the choreography proved me wrong, it's exactly the same
@itzrachei
@itzrachei Ай бұрын
literally tho when I first watched there magnetic video for illit the mv just gave me newjeans vibes cause some scenes and stuff for some reason but I wasn’t hating cause maybe I’m just thinking of it but now seeing this then yeah
@Kpopmultifan3147
@Kpopmultifan3147 Ай бұрын
⁠I agree illiterate choreography and new jeans choreography was pretty similar at some parts but it wasn’t illit member’s fault
@EdwinaLiybaa
@EdwinaLiybaa Ай бұрын
Me too.. I listened to their song and I was just.. Oh they sing the same range. But that's it. I thought they went for cutesy concept like gfriend. I haven't seen the clip yet but if it is like what shown in this clip lol.. No wonder she is mad.
@eggiemybaby
@eggiemybaby Ай бұрын
The promotional pictures and cartoon design even the fonts 😅 wtf is hybe doing even other companies make gaps for their ggs with similar concept.
@ssev4026
@ssev4026 Ай бұрын
And even new jeans choreo is a copy
@GigiKim93
@GigiKim93 Ай бұрын
I think people continuously villainize Min, but don’t realize that she’s looking out for both groups. Hybe doesn’t really care about either.
@averyvery18
@averyvery18 Ай бұрын
Yes. If hybe truly cared about new jeans, they wouldnt do this when they are about to comeback. Bang pd is a spiteful man it seems
@pepepan-cv6ug
@pepepan-cv6ug Ай бұрын
@@averyvery18bfr min heejin is the one causing problems, hybe was the one who didnt want to sue her due to newjeans comeback but she kept doing ILLEGAL THINGS so of course they have to sue her now
@ttomttomyam
@ttomttomyam Ай бұрын
funny that company like hybe only can claim "MHJ doing illegal things" but never show the proof while MHJ can show us real personality of BSH just from as screenshot of their chat 😂😂😂​@@pepepan-cv6ug
@ttomttomyam
@ttomttomyam Ай бұрын
​@@pepepan-cv6uganyway how much hybe paid you? i also need side job for money 😂😂
@hoonie359
@hoonie359 Ай бұрын
@@pepepan-cv6ug source: “trust me bro” 😂
@nana1987
@nana1987 Ай бұрын
She is 100% correct..& she's d only one who is looking out for both illit & newjeans....ppl or hybe is just trying to prove her wrong...
@jlmk23
@jlmk23 Ай бұрын
She’s right tho. The company is at fault not the artist.
@HazLight4426
@HazLight4426 Ай бұрын
HYBE don't like NewJeans/Ador success and they created ILLIT to undermine them. Don't support HYBE on this one.
@hanakoanime157
@hanakoanime157 Ай бұрын
yeah me too
@apikasangtam430
@apikasangtam430 Ай бұрын
Yup💯
@nwjnshannipham
@nwjnshannipham Ай бұрын
Finally a person who has a brain
@fvjxznvueaepd8u
@fvjxznvueaepd8u Ай бұрын
This doesn't make sense, I'm just a casual reader about this issue but isn't HYBE owns most of the shares of ADOR? Why would they hope for their own business to fail? LOL
@anthonyjudepael417
@anthonyjudepael417 Ай бұрын
Spot on
@hyuckenthusiast
@hyuckenthusiast Ай бұрын
Actually, when I first heard Magnetic, I checked New Jeans to see if they had released a new song, but it was ILLIT. The similarity is uncanny with the music and concept.
@ave0latte
@ave0latte Ай бұрын
did yall not check the groups name which is written write beside the title? and the members don't even look like newjeans how can y'all even bruhhh ☠️ i find this quite disrespectful
@-toriizaka46
@-toriizaka46 Ай бұрын
​@ave0latte I first saw an ad that illit did for some fashion brand, I thought it was new jeans at first so when I fully watched the video, I went "huh where's new jeans" and only found out later that illit is a new group. the resemblance is too much, if a member of the general public who's not into kpop thinks they are new jeans, is that not a problem? especially for illit! they should have a strong concept for themselves that portrays them best, not be toeing the lines of "its copied but not really"
@Santia5a
@Santia5a Ай бұрын
​@@-toriizaka46for general public, 5 years ago, all K-pop was "some Chinese songs". Second. By your logic EVERY group with 5 black haired asian girls is New Jeans.
@-toriizaka46
@-toriizaka46 Ай бұрын
@user-lt1qx3me1i you think I'm talking about America or smth? the place where they make the most money and care abt the most is always Korea, it matters what the Korean gp think
@Milkywayzxca
@Milkywayzxca 17 күн бұрын
@@Santia5a아닙니다
@lalalopsy5966
@lalalopsy5966 Ай бұрын
1 time, mistake 2 times, coincidence 3 times, a pattern. The public is not blind or dumb. Illit is a carbon copy of nj.
@terra-xoxo
@terra-xoxo Ай бұрын
Can't agree more
@MadKuraKura
@MadKuraKura Ай бұрын
Funfact, magnetic has the same beat as “shot on iphone” theme
@LuckyCl0ver
@LuckyCl0ver 12 күн бұрын
Cus everyone apart from hybe stans say it's similar
@fyori7376
@fyori7376 Ай бұрын
Now HYBE is trying to put Newjeans on a "vocation" of 1 year and 6 month. Under the guise of vocation, they're putting them on hiatus. After the hiatus, they'll probably disband them. And i think they're trying to replace ILLIT with Newjeans by doing this. Using newjeans concept for illit just to replace Newjeans. I get why she is mad. Because her creativity is being used without permission, and not just her hardwork also the Newjeans members and the choreographers hard work isn't being respected. This is very unfair for them. Even for illit members because everything could have been so much better for them if Hybe wasn't so greedy and making them the face of plagiarism. They could have had debuted with a different concept and everything would have been good for them, after all no matter anything, they're under hybe. They could have been popular in their own right with their own concept. Hybe is so disgusting
@always_with_tu
@always_with_tu Ай бұрын
there is a fine line between inspiration and copying. ik nobody owns any choreography but it's straight up copied.
@milli3377
@milli3377 Ай бұрын
It isn't, they showed very simple moves from different choreographies. Those same moves can be found in a ton of other groups. NewJeans choreographies aren't original either if moves can't be repeated.
@mivey_
@mivey_ Ай бұрын
​@@milli3377 "can be found in other groups", can you give me an example? any other group using that many similar steps in one song?
@LeiStydjik
@LeiStydjik Ай бұрын
​@@milli3377ILLITéráte have some shame😂
@midapita
@midapita Ай бұрын
@@mivey_LSF on the feet kicking floor movement, the leg swaying move was done in boy group dances but I forgot which one, etc
@midapita
@midapita Ай бұрын
@@mivey_also LSF has the same move of NWJN/Illit on their most recent comeback. this leads me to suspect that HYBE shares choreographers among subsidiaries or something like that.
@str3wb3rrysoda
@str3wb3rrysoda Ай бұрын
Wow at first I used to agree with people saying it's just a concept, Min heejin should not take it too personal. But now I agree with her the production seems too familiar, choreos, ablum designs, hairstyles and everything like it's not even subtle.
@Zoom03352
@Zoom03352 Ай бұрын
Same
@chesiresays
@chesiresays Ай бұрын
Imagine thinking anything min hee Jin does is invented by her💀 as if any of those things didn’t exist before her
@kitkat3990
@kitkat3990 Ай бұрын
​@chesiresays That's not what anyone is saying. Yes, anyone can use similar choreography, yes anyone can use similar hairstyles and aesthetics, yes anyone can use a similar music concept, but when you put it all together and almost everything is similar, its stepping a bit too far past the line
@mcape9490
@mcape9490 Ай бұрын
@@chesiresaysit was just that everything was similar, it cannot be even considered “inspiration” its pure copying..
@astayas4858
@astayas4858 Ай бұрын
Feel so bad for the girls. They're the victims of so arogant adults
@Sailorsun_moon
@Sailorsun_moon Ай бұрын
She is the group mama she’s gonna defend her kids,I am glad people are finally seeing her side .
@user-og8cm7cz2u
@user-og8cm7cz2u Ай бұрын
At this point i agree with her
@GigiKim93
@GigiKim93 Ай бұрын
It’s so insane to see the choreography similarities. Even down to the formations, it’s basically the same.
@triplejeanS
@triplejeanS Ай бұрын
in kpop loads of choreographys and formations are very similar bcs there really arent that many steps or formations for 5 members
@hoonie359
@hoonie359 Ай бұрын
@@triplejeanSyo the fact that when you see ILLIT you think of NJ, but if you see NJ you dont see ILLIT is already very telling. lets be objective about this and not see everything she says as crazy person talk because she truly makes sense rn
@GigiKim93
@GigiKim93 Ай бұрын
@@triplejeanS Not like this. All of their choreographic high points were used. It's evident.
@triplejeanS
@triplejeanS Ай бұрын
@@hoonie359 idk personally i dont see nwjns when i see illit i only see illit
@yashmitasharma4041
@yashmitasharma4041 Ай бұрын
Yah every kpop groups have hook parts or signature dance of their songs And they are using those signature part of Newjeans songs So, at the end whatever hybe lovers say.... It's totally unfair for Newjeans
@mchanelle
@mchanelle Ай бұрын
Illit has more budget but their production can't think of their formula
@ishay5414
@ishay5414 Ай бұрын
Because it is intentional. Meant to replace nj.
@betxengi5388
@betxengi5388 Ай бұрын
You figured out they had a bigger budget because of what? ILLIT only got 2 MVs while New Jeans Hype Boy alone got 4 MV and 2+ different choreography version. Each of their songs from the album has an MV. New Jeans recorded thousands of MV versions and illit made a showcase for the same money
@kimjess4313
@kimjess4313 Ай бұрын
​@betxengi5388 Its a fact that they spent around 150 mil on Illit while NJ got around 1.5 mil for production.
@hivev1326
@hivev1326 Ай бұрын
​@@kimjess4313Those 150 mil are not for ILLIT themselves. That price is what HYBE payed for the BELIFT lab shares that CJ owned. They had over 50% of shares so it was quite expensive. But is is not the budget for ILLIT's debut.
@OrvinReyes
@OrvinReyes Ай бұрын
spend money talentless idiots, great strategy hybe
@_ericreations
@_ericreations Ай бұрын
She is right tho. She is mad because of the lack of originality from Illit's creative team.. if I am her, i'd be pissed too
@user-cs1uu5bn6k
@user-cs1uu5bn6k Ай бұрын
That is not a mistake clearly , such coioncidences don't happen 100 times, she is right
@giselle9429
@giselle9429 Ай бұрын
I don’t even get how Illit Debuted when the girls are clearly not trained enough 😭
@triplejeanS
@triplejeanS Ай бұрын
they had a survival show before so the debut was already planned and the girls did great with everything
@preciouscinderella1920
@preciouscinderella1920 Ай бұрын
agree. they should be trained enough to actually hold a note during an encore
@Pham_hanie
@Pham_hanie Ай бұрын
@@triplejeanS No hate to illit, but they do need to practice more on their vocals 😅
@simransingh8467
@simransingh8467 Ай бұрын
Yup that show which was highly rigid , Let's be honest that survival show was not for selecting deserving people but only for selecting good looking people. And the prime example of that is wohee .
@thatweirdfangirl15
@thatweirdfangirl15 Ай бұрын
they're not even that bad, some of the girls are talented and they're still young. I've heard way worse.
@Daineah
@Daineah Ай бұрын
These evidences clearly prove it's plagiarism. And I can tell, HYBE feels threatened with MHJ.
@milli3377
@milli3377 Ай бұрын
It seems it's the other way around. Illit had a more successful debut than New Jeans. If they hadn't that much popularity MHJ wouldn't have brought that up in the first place. On top of that, most of the "copying" is literally the most basic thing.
@sophiady4319
@sophiady4319 Ай бұрын
Speaking of plagiarism, not sure if illit’s lucky girl syndrome song is fine since it sounds the same with hallucinating by elohim.
@FeelTehPOWA
@FeelTehPOWA Ай бұрын
​@@milli3377yeah, success they got from copying the entire formula from ador
@dilovean13
@dilovean13 Ай бұрын
Why hybe? Why not Belift? Adore is under Hybe
@Nicole-of4qq
@Nicole-of4qq Ай бұрын
​@@milli3377do u have braincells?
@Lily78921
@Lily78921 Ай бұрын
I support Heejin imagine you created everything with your blood sweat and tears and someone took it away I understand her frustration
@zehr_A_rmy_FREE_PALESTINE
@zehr_A_rmy_FREE_PALESTINE Ай бұрын
blood sweat and tears? yes, we are also talking about that right now, BTS also made HYBE with their own blood sweat and tears, but this fool, evil ashh... please don't act like you don't know anything, didn't you heard anything she planned about BTS? her plans to end BTS? all the rumours she was about to start, all the hate? if hybe woudn't be aware, now nobody would now about her and one by one she would poisen all of us. OR you guys are blind, OR you hate the mentioned idols that much that you are happy about what this women does so you're playing 🙈🙉🙊
@GraceEkoe
@GraceEkoe Ай бұрын
@@zehr_A_rmy_FREE_PALESTINEhow old are you
@zehr_A_rmy_FREE_PALESTINE
@zehr_A_rmy_FREE_PALESTINE Ай бұрын
@@GraceEkoe 20, studying law :) you? a girl of 5 years old getting all her informations on youtube shorts? when the facts are hard, just accept them okay, instead of humiliating others.
@GraceEkoe
@GraceEkoe Ай бұрын
@@zehr_A_rmy_FREE_PALESTINE really I would of thought you were 10 lol and ESPECIALLY bc of your corny ahh display name you should act your age and I’m not 5 fyi
@GraceEkoe
@GraceEkoe Ай бұрын
@@zehr_A_rmy_FREE_PALESTINE if I did get all my info off of shorts trust me I wouldn’t have any brain cells
@joemama_k
@joemama_k Ай бұрын
tf!!!! exactly my point!!! everyone else was acting like she was the villain brooo!! i agreed so much! i like hybe artists like svt, bts, txt, ehyp, nj, so i was excited about the new girl group (cause they rarely debuts one) and checked their instagram, saw their concept photos for the first time (i didn’t watch r u next) and was flabbergasted broo like 👁️👁️ ehh??? they looked like fans cosplaying nj members and sorry but i was done with them!! and i remember that everyone was saying the same like hybe should’ve given comebacks to nj instead of giving the literal concept of nj songs to illit… 👄wtf gosh then i was so frustrated with the mhj and hybe controversy and spoke nothing about it cause the literal victims were nj members like theu work their ass off just to be copy pasted by their juniors of their same damn company!!! i would cryy like broo who wouldn’t
@mebibibi
@mebibibi Ай бұрын
she’s so right.
@Angela-un8fh
@Angela-un8fh Ай бұрын
Not to mention, it was the legal guardians of New Jeans that first forwarded the issue to Minji. The treatment New Jeans is going through because of the CEO of Hybe is unfair, and is affecting not only New Jeans but Illit as well. These children shouldn't go through so much bcs of adults who wish to maximize profit. This is outright plagarism. It's difficult bcs I wish to support New Jeans without supporting Hybe...
@averyvery18
@averyvery18 Ай бұрын
Bang pd is a spiteful man taking out his personal issues with mhj on new jeans
@liv143
@liv143 Ай бұрын
People are blind *if they can't see the similarities, the choreography its what hits the hardest for me, everything is TOO MUCH ALIKE!!
@angelvasayllaje1413
@angelvasayllaje1413 Ай бұрын
I think there's also a part in attention mv and magnetic mv that looks similar. The one in the dressing room. The first time I saw magnetic I knew it looks like NJ mv.
@winx1388
@winx1388 Ай бұрын
back then , a friend said illit looks too much like newjeans so she couldn't indulge in their music... but looking at it now, my God they're literally copy pasting newjeans 😂
@DarrenMelvine
@DarrenMelvine Ай бұрын
It's really cunning if you have a lot of money you can do anything for justice
@betxengi5388
@betxengi5388 Ай бұрын
It looks like you haven't even listened to their album but you speak out loud about them because it's popular
@winx1388
@winx1388 Ай бұрын
@@betxengi5388 girlypop it don't matter.. they're a copy paste of newjeans .. even the locals think so
@joemama_k
@joemama_k Ай бұрын
lol i love your friend!! same reaction as me !! i straight off said no to them when i saw their first ever concept photos being copy pasted of nj
@joemama_k
@joemama_k Ай бұрын
@@betxengi5388it’s not about just their song sista!! it’s the whole thing!! like the essence of nj are copied and pasted to illit
@rongneilajamir1351
@rongneilajamir1351 Ай бұрын
You know what's so frustrating? People are just going to ignore this video and never yry to see the problem through MHJ's lense cause she's the new punching bag of kpop. The problem is not NJ or Illit but between a creative director who feels like she has been wrong by het boss. She's basically looking out for both the jobs. Its better to have distinct individual colour then to be constantly compared to each other throughout btgeir careers
@shrustibarlota9238
@shrustibarlota9238 Ай бұрын
Mhj is manipulating if she loved newjeans she would have never dragged them along in suit knowing it could cost them their career ... Illit can copy newjeans but they can't copy newjeans impact ... And she didn't even adress serious allegations against her just kept on pulling the topic with newjeans and illit copying
@erikaisabella2651
@erikaisabella2651 Ай бұрын
​@@shrustibarlota9238 can't you see why she's "dragging" newjeans along? because with hybe pushing illit's popularity, they're going to put newjeans in a backseat because if they were to do performances separately, the similarities will be way more egregious than it already is and the comparisons would only get worse. hybe already doesn't care for newjeans when they were debuting and Mhj knows this. now they want to debut another similar group under a different leadership. also, why is Mhj being pressured to respond to allegations when hybe throws stones and hide their hands, pretending all their actions were pure?
@sushimobile
@sushimobile Ай бұрын
Don’t be fooled these are business men and women fighting about their money and assets don’t let MHJ’s ‘I’m just looking out for my girls 🥺’ fool u. She’s just as malicious as Bang Pd and Hybe
@imthecoolest50
@imthecoolest50 Ай бұрын
At least MHJ is out here doing conference trying to prove herself. Bang PD is sitting around shaking his leg, hoping money solves everything.
@shrustibarlota9238
@shrustibarlota9238 Ай бұрын
@@imthecoolest50 mhj doing conference was not professional at all that is not how you solve things someone who is right won't try to get sympathy and keep saying i am right that someone will be behind and let the court order show that what was right ... Bang pd not replying is professional coz he will directly show evidence in court this is between company and thier employee mhj you can't help press con
@borahaebts1227
@borahaebts1227 Ай бұрын
I’m siding with Heejin on this one.🥺
@That_Adult_Writer
@That_Adult_Writer Ай бұрын
The first time I heard and saw illit I thought of newjeans.
@Cats-cm4hk
@Cats-cm4hk Ай бұрын
For the people who still said, "nj is not the first y2k concept group" or "mhj is not the creator of the concept" Yeah exactly. Mhj never said that. Its the mindblowing similiarities, the production, the dance moves, the photos, etc. In fact, Its never a good idea having the same concept group in the same time under the same group company. Its not good for both ILLIT and NEWJEANS. They will competing with each other. In this matter, you should support mhj bcs bsh only cares for money, he never cares about their artists.
@annyasousasilva
@annyasousasilva Ай бұрын
yep, every active GG under big 3 for example within close debut dates has their own concept. SNSD and f(x) was drastically different same with Nmix ans ITZY. ps. even with 7 years gap I'm waiting to see how and if YG will differentiate BM and BP.
@joycea.7332
@joycea.7332 Ай бұрын
​@@annyasousasilva YG also faced criticism for giving BabyMonster similar songs with BP. But it's not that big issue because of the 7 year gap and BP is currently not active. I wish BabyMonster will have better songs tho.
@omee9598
@omee9598 Ай бұрын
Actually Bsh isn't that bad like mhj supporters try to portrait him
@gumoa2866
@gumoa2866 Ай бұрын
But ILLIT doesn't follow Y2K concept. Their outfits aren't even similar nor the dance moves. Idk if ya'll are professional dancers but I've danced both nwjs and illit choreographies and it isn't identical. Illit choreos is probably more similar to le SSERAFIM.
@mivey_
@mivey_ Ай бұрын
​@@gumoa2866 the dance move is not similar? girl be fr did you watch the video? i get it one or two basic dance move can be similar but that many similarities on just one song? do you know about ateez and vata dance controversy? this is just like that but 100 times worse
@spookyshark632
@spookyshark632 Ай бұрын
I didn't realize the pictures were alternating between NewJeans and Illit until the second time around.
@ree3197
@ree3197 Ай бұрын
Ikr!!!
@Amruhi24
@Amruhi24 Ай бұрын
She is soo right . Her reaction is so normal ,if someone copy all your efforts . What a shame .
@saryaemadd6106
@saryaemadd6106 Ай бұрын
efforts? She copied Newgies from a Mexican band, and she didn't even bother to change the name lol. She copied everything, the posters, the album designs, and even the dances.
@Amruhi24
@Amruhi24 Ай бұрын
@@saryaemadd6106 they bring old scenerio of different regions and culture to kpop . If new jeans don't adopt this , kpop can never had this western side in kpop world .but but what hybe is doing is copie paste . They and people like you just want to drag new jeans down . If kpop is getting something unique and mixture of western and own how is it copied . Reaches and collection different ideas from the world is not totally copied ,who knows if new jeans don't be this famous ,but now because they succeeded, hybe wanted to drag them down . Please understand if hybe what any concept ,go search ,look out in the world and adopt .not like new jeans idea is in trending ,now they want illit to have same .
@Amruhi24
@Amruhi24 Ай бұрын
@@saryaemadd6106 and also please try to understand ,kpop is not a competation ,it's music .we want good music ,nice concept that we can enjoy . Don't take it so serious .and I think you are BTS army ,so let me tell you don't think hybe soo good because once they just tried dynamite ENG song , and it got good view and Grammy nominations ,what they did ,they were so blind for Grammy ,they totally forgot the identity of BTS (self love and meaningful songs and Korean language ) they again and again gived they butter etc . Just for for that Grammy .hybe is really getting devil .so please don't think it as compensation , love good music and great singers . And new jeans girls has great voices ,at least support those little girls .
@saryaemadd6106
@saryaemadd6106 Ай бұрын
@Amruhi24 grillllll you are contradicting yourself lol💀 you say she is right and at the same time you say that kpop is not a competition? So, why she was mad she also copied someone else's concepts and efforts
@softeuph3974
@softeuph3974 Ай бұрын
Bruh MHJ is a copycat and hypocrite herself.
@joujamneihsial9408
@joujamneihsial9408 Ай бұрын
"I cant help but it reminds me of new jeans" SO TRUE OMG
@apikasangtam430
@apikasangtam430 Ай бұрын
At this point if we think deeply she is kind of right at least 80%. Because i feel like hype could have just give illit different concept but didn't because hybe wanted illit to take over new jeans. And didnt focuse much on new jeans . And for illit even though their debut song was a hit one ,i see no potential in future ( poor girls) For new jeans thy have ao much potential but because hybe 🤦🏻( justice for new jeans ) Just because for hybe greed the girls of both group had to suffer alot💔🤧
@betxengi5388
@betxengi5388 Ай бұрын
Both groups have a different concept
@imthecoolest50
@imthecoolest50 Ай бұрын
HYBE better not do to NJ what they did to GFRIEND. HYBE is ridiculous when it comes to managing their GGs. Wish HYBE would care about their GGs as good as they take care of their BGs.
@apikasangtam430
@apikasangtam430 Ай бұрын
@@betxengi5388let me guess u are a hybe fan
@rouroume7085
@rouroume7085 Ай бұрын
It's their thing to do debuting new group and ignoring other one like GFriend
@MainRapperAsahiIsBack
@MainRapperAsahiIsBack Ай бұрын
I can't even see Illithandling their own concert.
@ninjagamer1359
@ninjagamer1359 Ай бұрын
Glad to see other international fans finally beginning to realize Min Hee-jin was right 😂 I’ve been on her side for a while now, but even I didn’t realize how blatant and truly non-exaggerated the copying was until this video. You really put it together wonderfully. Wow. Thanks so much 👏🏻
@joycea.7332
@joycea.7332 Ай бұрын
Just looking at Illit's teaser posters, they remind me of NJ. And watching this video made me think that I missed so much similarities in the choreo.
@RosieRetro345
@RosieRetro345 Ай бұрын
Because international fans only had access to misinformed shorts. They did not have access primary sources like the full MHJ interview or news articles. This made it really easy to sway them.
@FeelTehPOWA
@FeelTehPOWA Ай бұрын
Yeah, in my home country everyone ate the witch hunting from hybe :/ theres so much missinformation
@Lovelicky27
@Lovelicky27 Ай бұрын
Exactly omg 😭
@shrustibarlota9238
@shrustibarlota9238 Ай бұрын
Mhj successfully manipulated you all
@bontigogoi9199
@bontigogoi9199 Ай бұрын
On this point i say she's right, its not illit fault but the companies , yes i know newjeans didn't made yk2 concept, but think how will it feel like when someone copy everything step by step from u. Its same in her case, i don't hate illit even tho i don't stan the gg cuz ik its their company behind it.. That's all i wanted say, if u gonna hate me for it u can
@Soya_loves_Jisoo.minxyw
@Soya_loves_Jisoo.minxyw Ай бұрын
This time I actually agree with her because there is difference between inspiration and copying
@TapongMarkio
@TapongMarkio Ай бұрын
She is right
@Gachalover-sk8su
@Gachalover-sk8su Ай бұрын
To be honest before the video I thought she was the problem but after this video I realize she wasn't trying to bring new jeans down but look out for them and state facts I like how she didn't just staight up blame the illit but the company it self
@MayaHajjo-ip1hn
@MayaHajjo-ip1hn Ай бұрын
Same
@Narvella
@Narvella Ай бұрын
Welcome to the club.
@generevmadlos258
@generevmadlos258 Ай бұрын
True, I got so fed up with hybe
@bmqkai
@bmqkai Ай бұрын
she’s right, it was NEVER the girls’ fault i’m sick and tired of seeing some immature “fans” hating on the groups when they’re clearly just following what the company asked them to do
@user-rm3ih9jd3o
@user-rm3ih9jd3o Ай бұрын
this first time i heard illit's song was like, is this newjeans? 😂 and then all those similar dance moves went viral and I'm shook 😂
@mchanelle
@mchanelle Ай бұрын
it's saddening that this happened right before their comeback. I feel bad for them :(
@averyvery18
@averyvery18 Ай бұрын
Yeah. Clearly it was intentional from hybe side.
@betxengi5388
@betxengi5388 Ай бұрын
But of course you don't feel bad anymore because the rookie group has been hated since day one and can't promote itself in peace? Pity is a special privilege for New Jeans
@puppyjakeu
@puppyjakeu Ай бұрын
⁠@@betxengi5388i was and i still being sad bc of that. Since illit debuted i hoped they sucess, but at least it didnt happened. 😭 they just get hated and nctizens just support nwjns. I mean, both ggs have the same age, why do they get hate?😭😭😭😭 none of them deserve it.
@mchanelle
@mchanelle 28 күн бұрын
​@@betxengi5388what's wrong with u? Who gave u the right to invalidate our feelings? NewJeans have been hated since day 1 too especially Hyein because of her age. My point is why do hybe do audit right before their comeback? Is it wrong to be sad about that?
@justbb1415
@justbb1415 Ай бұрын
It's so crazy how bang sihyuk was sooo careful not to have a clash in concepts between bts n txt, talking abt how he doesn't want a fandom/concept clash between his groups cos that would not be beneficial for both the groups n even the company. But now all those talk r just swept in the drain when it comes to nj. They could give illit their own color with no similarity to newjeans but they chose to give a green pass to all the similarities. I am. Not saying they straight up copy nj but the similarities r glaring to the point that people r still mistaking illit for nj. It's not about being a hater but the truth. Hybe did it on purpose bcs they were afraid of min heejin as they were unable to control her as they had expected. They did it as a fail safe to have their own 'nj' n to atleast knock down minheejin by a few metre. That is basically it.
@imthecoolest50
@imthecoolest50 Ай бұрын
HYBE has a record of destroying GGs. If they like BGs so much, stick to BGs. But they force themselves to debut GGs anyway seeing as GGs dominate the current market. They have no choice but to follow market demands. But this is what happens when you half-bake your GGs; lots of copying and stealing. If only HYBE could put as much care and effort into GGs like they always do to BGs, this wouldn’t happen. There’s no copying or skills issues among the BGs. Not because boys are better, but because they’re well-managed compared to their neglected GG counterparts.
@user-qr3oq3il1r
@user-qr3oq3il1r Ай бұрын
it’s obvious, boy groups in hybe are important, now compare lsfrm to enhypen or bts, their vocals!? are you fr rn? it’s cuz they knew bts and txt we’re gonna be a big success, they don’t fucking care about gfriend, fromis_9, lsfrm, ILLIT or newjeans, all they care is about their fucking greedy money and they just want their girl groups to be shown bad, it’s not fucking ILLITS fault that they sing bad, every idol is not perfect before auditioning, that’s why they get trained? But does it look like hybe trained their girl groups? MHJ is not wrong, she might be doing illegal things and armies might be hating on her, but, the point is she is actually looking out for both of the groups, ILLIT and newjeans, and she is right, how would u feel if someone promised you to debut your group first but then they ended up debuting another group? her feelings for lesserafim debuting first were right cuz they could tell her to wait, but the point is they fucking promised, and oh cmon hybe stans talk now. did you see what chats MHJ showed with the ceo of hybe, this is completely messed up, I feel bad for newjeans, they don’t deserve this.
@novthirty3249
@novthirty3249 Ай бұрын
i think the problem is when people hyperfocus on a single aspect. “newjeans doesn’t own that choreography move” “oh so no one else is allowed to do straight hair or those fonts?” no, the issue is when its all combined together. separately it is not plagiarism; but when you put all the similarities together its clear that it is at the very least, complete imitation, especially given that they are from the same company, have the same target audience, and their sounds are very alike (i understand they’re diff. subgenres but it doesn’t matter when to the audience that isnt an expert on this, it sounds very similar)
@crishagarcia246
@crishagarcia246 Ай бұрын
Its not either of these groups faults. These girls are all innocent but the adults shouldn't be dragging these young ladies in it. I really love both groups but id be lying if i didnt say that both groups' management teams copied other groups dances and concepts. These girls just followed what they were told to do. Now both groups are suffering from the decisions these grown adults made. Please dont show hate to these two groups because thats not going to fix anything. They both need everyone's support.
@TootiFry
@TootiFry Ай бұрын
I don’t blame her if she’s allegedly trying to leave HYBE illegally to be independent. Why would you stay with an unprofessional label that copies your formulas and concepts?? Yes, she is an absolute crazy woman who had done AND said crazy things, but there’s no denying that she is a true genius. It’s kinda sad seeing her THIS frustrated and desperate for the public to get where she’s coming from. I side with her idc what yall say.
@averyvery18
@averyvery18 Ай бұрын
Those were allegations not proven yet. Its not clear if she illegally tried to do that.
@JenHen-di6rc
@JenHen-di6rc Ай бұрын
bc supposely she sold illegal stuff to other people out of hybe
@user-ti9ix7hi8l
@user-ti9ix7hi8l Ай бұрын
send solid proof, it's not even proven yet.
@-NWJNS-
@-NWJNS- Ай бұрын
atp the similarities are beyond coincidence hybe is not only destroying newjeans but also destroying illit as well! only an evil cultist company would do such deliberate irresponsible act destroying their own artists!
@pipsqueak3296
@pipsqueak3296 Ай бұрын
it is a cult ... those elite army supporting and sustaining the cult itself.
@imthecoolest50
@imthecoolest50 Ай бұрын
HYBE has a record of destroying GGs. If they like BGs so much, stick to BGs. But they force themselves to debut GGs anyway seeing as GGs dominate the current market. They have no choice but to follow market demands. But this is what happens when you half-bake your GGs; lots of copying and stealing. If only HYBE could put as much care and effort into GGs like they always do to BGs, this wouldn’t happen. There’s no copying or skills issues among the BGs. Not because boys are better, but because they’re well-managed compared to their neglected GG counterparts.
@user-ov1gv1tx2k
@user-ov1gv1tx2k Ай бұрын
I'm glad that she mentioned that it was not the members fault, and that they are js kids who can't control what outfits they wear on stage, or hair, or choreo they have to dance to, or concept photos, and things like that. They don't get to decide that stuff. It's their CEO, the choreographer, stylists, and others. ❤
@17dino
@17dino Ай бұрын
It’s too much to be a coincidence.
@neyitaggu3150
@neyitaggu3150 Ай бұрын
We will be with newjeans always ❤
@hanakoanime157
@hanakoanime157 Ай бұрын
yeah always❤
@haeslays
@haeslays Ай бұрын
BUNNIES REPORT
@user-zm2sh1cm5u
@user-zm2sh1cm5u Ай бұрын
Always ❤
@Pham_hanie
@Pham_hanie Ай бұрын
Bunnies 💙💗🥹
@HiU-kt5ow
@HiU-kt5ow Ай бұрын
New jeans and illit ❤️ they are the victims 😔
@maneesa4979
@maneesa4979 Ай бұрын
I don't think people actually understand the situation. Like yes the junior group can have similar concepts or production to their seniors there is nothing wrong in it. But not when the senior group ( new jeans ) themselves are just debuted and gaining foothold in the indistry. But hearing the issues btw Min hee jin and Bang pd it seems like he created the grp to rival nj. So now they have created issues and even if newjeans doesn't exist anymore hybe wouldn't lose any money coz they have illit with similar vibe. You can see in illit that they need more training but their debut was rushed like what is the need for new grp when the other girl grps in the conpany actually debuted only recently. It seems like bang pd is actually pushing his personal ego issues in this.
@0101_winterpii
@0101_winterpii Ай бұрын
Its funny how illit fans were so convinced and fighting all over internet saying illit doesn't have a concept like new jeans
@Dxodxo738
@Dxodxo738 Ай бұрын
What she said id correct .. what those kids will do for it they're getting hated unwantedly it's a problem between the adults this will affect the future of both groups I'm worried for new jeans and illit 🙁
@JC-kr2es
@JC-kr2es Ай бұрын
Really, the evidence of Illit copying NJ in this shorts is only a tip of an iceberg.. It’s frustrating to see Hybe showing no repect to creativity and the company is shattering the whole Kpop industry
@Yen-dc7nn
@Yen-dc7nn Ай бұрын
see, min heejin previously worked with SM. have you all seen an SM group with overlapping concepts from the previous groups? not at all. TVXQ, SuJu, Shinee, EXO, NCT have their own formula and marketing. same with their ggs SES, SNSD, f(x), Red Velvet and now Aespa. because their philosophy has to always come up with something new, even if its way too ahead of the game. you can tell its still very ingrained with mhj. just something hybe and their stans does not get.
@scoobylinny
@scoobylinny Ай бұрын
then I'm gonna need some explanation on Kwangya
@mamamememoo
@mamamememoo Ай бұрын
Kwangya is their universe. Like how Marvel has an over-arcing universe.
@scoobylinny
@scoobylinny Ай бұрын
@@mamamememoo aren't the concepts in marvel similar though-
@Yen-dc7nn
@Yen-dc7nn Ай бұрын
@@scoobylinny so?? thats just a metaverse technology they pushed to combine all their artists together, whatever that means. the groups still have their own branding. and mhj left 2019 before the kwangya happened.
@lhingneihoihangsing2606
@lhingneihoihangsing2606 Ай бұрын
She's absolutely right on this one its straight up copying
@user-fj8vb2wy4b
@user-fj8vb2wy4b Ай бұрын
Isn’t this way too much hybe ? Ghosting them ? Ignoring them? Being mean to them ? Replacing them? Not letting them promote there album? COPYING THERE HARD WORK FROM TOP TO BOTTOM AND TRYING NOT TO GET CAUGHT? If i stay writing the list won’t end ISNT THIS WAY TOO MUCH TO YOUNG GIRLS?! Mhj was always right but they kept making false rumors about her and now the whole industry is like “ the women who thought the whole world is copying her” IF YOU DIDNT WANT NEWJEANS IN THE FIRST PLACE JS TELL THEM STAY WITH YOUR TALENTLESS GGS they won’t be considered as idols to me EVER they dont even have the basics of idols they dont even dance well they sing like grasshoppers jumping around (and by that i dont mean froms9) hybe is such a cruel company mhj should take all the groups with her and leave lsrfm and illit with them if thats what they want? INSTEAD OF COPYING PPLS HARD WORK AND PAIN LEARN HOW TO TRAIN SOMEONE FIRST
@bobturtle1935
@bobturtle1935 Ай бұрын
Bang pd is smart. He made it subtle enough to not be good evidence but obvious that everyone calls illit new jeans. He doesnt want nj at the top cause that just gives min heejin a lot of power in the industry with trends. For example minheejin made short songs without bridges more normalized in the industry.
@azadice3534
@azadice3534 Ай бұрын
I mean.... she does seem like a crazy auntie losing her marbles......... That said , Hybe creating a GG with identical asthetics and members with very similar appearances ( the music and themes are very self similar) it does sound like Hybe wants to throw away New Jeans, and they hope they can just subtly replace them with their new replacements. That's so cruel. It's not about the girls, it's the horrible board members who think fans will follow anything if it's shaped like the " product " they have brought in to.... We need to punish Hybe for this direction and protect New Jeans and Illit . Both are wonderful idols.
@Jazzfreak7501
@Jazzfreak7501 Ай бұрын
You're talking about a CEO who disbanded popular GFriend before Le Serrafim's debut. Nothing is impossible for him. He got powerful off BTS and does whatever he wants in the industry.
@Sistarhyo
@Sistarhyo Ай бұрын
@@Jazzfreak7501For real. Mans became a billionaire and shifted from humble to evil business man💀.
@kiwaa
@kiwaa Ай бұрын
Heyo - “crazy auntie”? Misogynistic much - Bang Sihyuk’s the greedy one here☠️
@aenia
@aenia Ай бұрын
@@kiwaa they’re misogynistic because they don’t side with the woman?
@imthecoolest50
@imthecoolest50 Ай бұрын
@@aenia because no one’s calling Bang PD names, meanwhile MHJ is getting called all sorts of things. Can’t list them down or KZbin will delete my comment.
@rinnniiiii
@rinnniiiii Ай бұрын
I found the fact that ILLIT debuted with such a cutesy concept quite suspicious. The most popular and memorable performances on RUNEXT had girl crush type concepts like Bad Girl Good Girl, Given-Taken, Bad Boy, Shut Down and the song Desperate which was made especially for the show had me convinced that that was the kind of song they'd debut with. The fact that the line up excluded the most popular trainees who happened to fit that image best makes me think that this was hybe's plan all along. They wanted to create a copy of newjeans but realised the trainees most likely to debut didn't fit that image as well as others. They most likely rigged the line up to include the girls who fit this concept the best so when they did debut with a cute concept people wouldn't be so mad or confused. Given how much trainees like Chanelle, Jeemin and Jiwoo suited a more mature concept it would have been strange to debut them with a concept like ILLIT when they so clearly excelled in another concept. This whole situation is so shady and it's really upsetting to see ILLIT themselves get the brunt of the hate. As Min Heejin said, this is the company's fault, not theirs
@joemama_k
@joemama_k Ай бұрын
imagine working your ass off to study so hard just for your friend to copy your damn answers and even get 1st place 💀 that’s how i would feel if i was a nj member
@zehr_A_rmy_FREE_PALESTINE
@zehr_A_rmy_FREE_PALESTINE Ай бұрын
Imagine starting from 0, making your first album in a garage, writing all your songs, compusing them, making a new company, building it with your BLOOD SWEAT AND TEARS, and then after 15 years a girl band and their evil director uses your money and fame to promote themselves. That's how I would feel if I was BTS...
@joemama_k
@joemama_k Ай бұрын
@@zehr_A_rmy_FREE_PALESTINE um sorry but bts didn’t paved build hybe.. i stan them since 2017 and still am their fan but no they didn’t make hybe… they sure paved the way for big hit but hybe is a merged company of many sub-companies and i don’t support min hee jin but new jeans truly deserve justice bro..
@emmaaavx9254
@emmaaavx9254 7 күн бұрын
@@zehr_A_rmy_FREE_PALESTINEbro this isn’t about BTS y’all are crazy.
@maplegray-sc7bc
@maplegray-sc7bc Ай бұрын
People criticizing min hee jee because they want to support bts and all that hate from international fans when they don't even know what she actually said international fans are real popularity seeker making things up and not having sense
@dushistaya
@dushistaya Ай бұрын
International fans in this case are the most uneducated. They are quick to blame the woman and only care about the pretty picture
@Moonlight_latte_40
@Moonlight_latte_40 Ай бұрын
And when she didn't even say anything about Bts
@cl4278
@cl4278 Ай бұрын
But hybe was the one who spead those false information about her talking about bts, she didn't even mention them at all
@ramisatanzim6906
@ramisatanzim6906 Ай бұрын
What r u talking about? I'm an international fan and I'm completely with her. She is so right for this. I thought both r same grps untill my sister showed me the difference.
@starrysky6721
@starrysky6721 Ай бұрын
She didn't say anything about bts? Why are you liein? Not only she mentioned bts. She mentioned asapea, txt, bts, illit, ive, lsm and some other groups 🤦‍♀️
@Kaaa94482
@Kaaa94482 Ай бұрын
She does actually care about the kids, ngl i would've been super mad if someone would've copied everything, at first i thought it was just mhj being Dramatic but ever since i noticed everything was the same, sometimes i couldn't even tell the difference. HYBE is so wrong and selfish ngl.
@Bangchan_isold
@Bangchan_isold Ай бұрын
I do support min hee jin from start and also it has a reason. But i don't know why people hating her especially army i know she said that bang si hyuk copied her and made bts but she didn't meant about herself she meant about her groups that she made in sm and i don't care about what people say im gonna support her she is right at her point...
@terra-xoxo
@terra-xoxo Ай бұрын
People that hate her are company's stans. Not group's stans.
@Bangchan_isold
@Bangchan_isold Ай бұрын
@@terra-xoxo true
@tsch2655
@tsch2655 Ай бұрын
The thing is, she didn't even say that. It was hybe who said that, she came foward and said it was not a claim done by herself.
@zehr_A_rmy_FREE_PALESTINE
@zehr_A_rmy_FREE_PALESTINE Ай бұрын
@@terra-xoxo a company doenst have stans. we defend hybe, because you relate hybe to bts. so actually we are implicitly defending BTS.
@zehr_A_rmy_FREE_PALESTINE
@zehr_A_rmy_FREE_PALESTINE Ай бұрын
Really wanna know what y'all would do if a b!tch would appear who was about to ruin your idols if she woudn't be detected. I guess you forgot why we see this women, oeps sorry, evil, eveywhere.. HYBE detected her plans to end BTS a few weeks ago, and now she tries to defend herself by talking about random lies. it is PROVED that she used BTS' money to promote her band, that she made plans to ruin BTS image when they are on military servoce, that she was the cause of the problems during the last few years. She joined hybe a few years ago, after working 16 years for SM! so OR you are blind to see this, OR you are like everyone and say "BTS enemy is my friend".
@forstudy1578
@forstudy1578 Ай бұрын
She is not completely wrong(people who are blaming her for everything). There is a good and bad side of everything.
@Dione777.
@Dione777. Ай бұрын
If you really analyze the situation, you'll know the fact that she's right. Actually, hybe does not care about their girlgroups or their reputation, even they are not providing them the vocal training classes they need... they are buying everything, it's so serious now and I'm 100% with her cause she Speaking the actual thing that's going behind the scene but people are just busy with trolling her so badly... if you see the choreography concept story everything is same the only thing that's different is the song "magnetic" it's a little different and addictive that's why they won but if the members of the group cannot sing the song... I'm not sure these fans are giving support to whom...it's also not the fault of illit members.. the problem is the company.. they are so lack of creativity that they can't make a different concept that's funny when they say they are one of the best companies out there 😂 they are just hungry for money & for money they'll do everything. They are acting so childish, like who posts things like this in response.. i don't think they have any words to answer...
@user-yr2se9hm8q
@user-yr2se9hm8q Ай бұрын
Ngl she is right on this one when i watched illit's choreography it immediately reminded me of new jeans
@Her844
@Her844 Ай бұрын
I support Min heejin ❤❤
@zehr_A_rmy_FREE_PALESTINE
@zehr_A_rmy_FREE_PALESTINE Ай бұрын
You support a thief?
@adwaithavijayan2995
@adwaithavijayan2995 Ай бұрын
At this point i really think she is right !
@Dive_engene_baemon
@Dive_engene_baemon Ай бұрын
Yeah that’s too similar justice for new jeans!
@ninjagamer1359
@ninjagamer1359 Ай бұрын
I am legit so scared for NewJeans’ future after hearing what Hybe said to their parents, and I also feel bad for ILLIT, who are also talented girls who didn’t do anything deserve this drama, either 😢
@PureJoy_
@PureJoy_ Ай бұрын
She is right!! This was everyone's thought when illit debuted!!
@once_Dahyun_luv
@once_Dahyun_luv Ай бұрын
Hybe. Is. Cheap.
@zehr_A_rmy_FREE_PALESTINE
@zehr_A_rmy_FREE_PALESTINE Ай бұрын
MHJ and ador is cheap.
@nomnom9896
@nomnom9896 Ай бұрын
I'm surprised how long it took for English-speaking netizens to see the situation and understand what MHJ said in the presscon... Sadly there are still tonnes of people that are heavily influenced by Hybe's baseless accusations and media play, which is still ongoing until God knows when... 😟
@SUNGLITTER___
@SUNGLITTER___ Ай бұрын
We meed to spread this video...
@changkhonbil7799
@changkhonbil7799 Ай бұрын
It's not media play. It's you people who are still refusing to see actual evidence submitted to court by Hybe which basically proved that MHJ committed corporate espionage for which she could be thrown into jail. Y'all are too brainwashed by mhj. I pity you all.
@Scarletjenjen
@Scarletjenjen Ай бұрын
Now, our babies- Newjeans faced so many problem.😢😢 I love Newjeans.We need justice for them. I hope Newjeans will be okay.❤
@boredbeck
@boredbeck Ай бұрын
MHJ never said anything bad about Illit, people took her out of context because they hate her on a personal level even before this issue, if anything, she is protecting newjeans and standing up for healthy competition by being creative. they just found a vessel to direct that bias against her
@Teawithextrabubbles
@Teawithextrabubbles Ай бұрын
To be honest i hated her but after seeing this she is right
@sakurasaki4949
@sakurasaki4949 Ай бұрын
And people still siding on Hybe? I love how people making fun of MHJ just because they try to ignore some true ugly facts about Hybe
@nochuue1374
@nochuue1374 Ай бұрын
mhj has done so many problematic stuffs back then. That’s why sm kicked her out. And this drama, she brought it up herself cs she wants her own company
@minnizoh
@minnizoh Ай бұрын
​@@nochuue1374 But that doesn't mean everything she said is wrong. She tell the truth here
@hanakoanime157
@hanakoanime157 Ай бұрын
btw no hate but no one can copy nwjns no matter how similar or hard they tried to copy our girls,nwjns is much better and original no one can beat our girls deep inside my heart no one can replace them
@azadice3534
@azadice3534 Ай бұрын
You're wrong... Because the company that wants to replace them owns them. If they want to ruin them and replace them with an " identical" group, they can do it easily. Oh, look , new jeans need a long hiatus. Mabey, a few years .... they will punish them for their directors' sin... We need to punish Hybe for what they are doing to these innocent girls.
@chesiresays
@chesiresays Ай бұрын
@@azadice3534 y’all are genuinely on drugs I’m concerned
@andiomambac7846
@andiomambac7846 Ай бұрын
​@@azadice3534really sad but what are you even going to do to hybe lol 💀
@17dino
@17dino Ай бұрын
MHJ may not be a good person, but she is the best director/producer for NewJeans.
@beldesvila
@beldesvila Ай бұрын
I was wondering how Hybe debut a group less than a year and both were girl group. Then this year Illit debut, i was wondering again what is on Hybe's mind to debuy group with similliar vibe with the old one 😅
@Imbeyonce
@Imbeyonce Ай бұрын
I hate her personally the ador ceo , but this statement THIS esp the one where she says she's not targetting illit personally was so nice of her. And the similarity in choreography is not a joke it was so brave of her to point it out I mean.........
@helenaeleanor7831
@helenaeleanor7831 Ай бұрын
Newjeans's performance directors even called out Illit's team for copying Newjeans too
@furqanrizvi8144
@furqanrizvi8144 Ай бұрын
Why is she lowkey making a point
@mchanelle
@mchanelle Ай бұрын
not lowkey but she's trying to prove her point but to other it seems ridiculous
@averyvery18
@averyvery18 Ай бұрын
Highkey* if people just set aside the bias for hybe because of bts, they will see she is making valid points.
@ArganithaDewiramadhani
@ArganithaDewiramadhani Ай бұрын
I agree with her actually,im not a fan of newjeans or illit but i do listen and watch these groups mv and when i saw illit concept ..its really look like new jeans concept
@jeiwalker5160
@jeiwalker5160 Ай бұрын
Honestly when I first heard of illit, their concept and music sounded eerily similar to new jeans. Yes, there are some distinct differences but it’s like someone copied and tried to change some things to make it seem “totally different”. It’s a shame subcompanies are fighting each other. Copying other groups is not new.
@renle1i
@renle1i Ай бұрын
FACTS also love how she said it's an adult problem and the girls didnt do anything wrong, shes looking out for both groups!❤❤
@Slowdancinginthemoonlight
@Slowdancinginthemoonlight Ай бұрын
The 2nd lady said exactly same thing I had in mind choreography especially hook steps can be similar but not identical like this😅
@aethernosister
@aethernosister Ай бұрын
she's right on this. everytime I see Illit, it reminds me of NJ. from those concept and choreos - nahhhhhh
@puspitaD
@puspitaD Ай бұрын
This conflict actually reminded me of a boss i know in my real life. He's a resto owner. But he often brought/invite some street merchant who solds f&b (really anything from bread seller, dumplings seller, traditional drinks seller etc) to open their stall in his resto teritory. He'll treat them super nice, befriend them, make them feels like they're his long lost brothers. But you can guess it already, when the merchants loosen up, feeling all buddy buddy, they'll eventually leak the secret of their good stuffs. When the boss learned it all well, his attitude change. He starts to make trouble, accusing things here and there, make the merchants feels uncomfortable so eventually they are willing to go out of the resto by themselves. The boss sucked dry the knowledge, the creativity, the final result of the research that done with hardwork by the merchants using that very sly cunning way. Later, those knowledge is what he applied to his f&b that sold in his resto. Everything looks familiar and similar to the conflict between MHJ and BSH.
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