Is this your next compact tractor? 2017/2018 2025R comparison to 1025R/2032R ..and Tim's thoughts.

[@greenflash1863]

We own the previous gen 2025R, bought new in 2015. It replaced a well worn NH 1220. Couldn't be happier. For our property and uses it's the perfectly sized machine in terms of capability and footprint.

[@dantabler9301]

I traded my 1025R for the 2025R. REALLY HAPPY with the up-grade. I mainly grind stumps and do loader work. The 2025R is a huge up-grade and much better for what I do. I didn't loose much when I traded my 1025R.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Sounds good!

[@twobrotherskayaking4736]

Just Do It!! Got a 2025R this fall (2018) and use it often. Bucket with quick connect 120R loader does snow on drive (yes, no more shoveling my large paved driveway). I burn about 30 face chord of fire wood for winter home heat. Got a quick connect frame and 42” forks from TITAN ($407 delivered). I buy log length so I cut n split all 30 face chord. Use pallets to transport cut wood from back of my yard (about 300’ from house...Yes, no more wheel barrow) to house. Also use bucket for cut wood to move and dump next to my house (I just pile n don’t bother with stacking). Haven’t even had the chance to use the 260B backhoe yet but will need to do some septic work in the Spring so all good for that too. Tim, sweet talk your wife AND GET ONE. You won’t regret it.

[@mrelectron6220]

Nice review Tim, some people are getting hung up on HP#'s but got to remember with a diesel its more about the torque than HP. Also the extra 350 Lbs and taller wider tires will be helpful for those implements where you're engaging the ground like a Plow. Weight can make up for HP in some applications.

[@jinxak]

Just purchased a Kubota BX myself and I would have to say I love your channel. Although I didn’t go with the JD (mainly the dealer differences and Kubota struck me a deal I couldn’t refuse) I still love watching videos and using the subcompact tractors in general. I don’t think your getting enough differences to “trade up”. Slight bigger, heavier, and small gains is load movement are not worth the sacrifice in how nimble Johnny is. Have the videos you have done are in tight spaces with nearly the room for Johnny yet he finds a way to master the job. If you go bigger you will find yourself more capable for the job. . . If only you could get to it, ha. I choose the subcompact because I have many trees and a smaller property(2/3 acre). While I want a larger tractor, I know the smaller one is the right one. You chose wisely when you purchased Johnny. Keep him!

[@TractorTimewithTim]

+jinxak thanks for your comment, and thanks for watching. Had you enjoy your BX. Great tractor!

[@RedBoneCoonHound47]

Just purchased a 2018 2025R TLB here in New Hampshire. Was quoted $28,042 with a $4,348 discount which brought it to $23,694 out the door. The 120R with 53" and the 260B with 12" buckets. They quoted me $21,504 discounted for the 1025R TLB out the door. For an additional $2K and the Deere 0% for 60 months made it a no brainer. The 2032R TLB would have been around $30K after discount.

[@twobrotherskayaking4736]

Sound like the deal I got. 2018 2025R w/120R quick connect loader and bucket, and 260B backhoe for about $23,700 and the 60 month 0% ($368/mo). ( I already have a JD 540 Z- turn so didn’t need the mower deck) The discounts and financing got me to do this in the fall instead of next spring. So far, glad I did. Enjoy your tractor Rich.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Wow, prices high out there!

[@Mike-mn9xo]

Damn. Just got quoted today $30k flat TLB for 2025r. Prices have skyrocketed

[@sgt_jr3232]

I would be happy either way, new johnny or old johnny. I would still love the videos. You two are great together.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

+J Ren thanks!

[@willyblystone500]

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[@Aerospace_Education]

Tim, John Deere should give you commission from my purchase. Just got a 1025R with Bucket, Tiller, Rake, Mower and Brushhog. We built a new home with 1.5acres and have an unkempt 14 acre park next to us that we want to fix for the neighborhood. I have only had the 1025 for about 3 weeks now but it has done a great job at everything I have thrown at it and frankly we have thrown some things at it that are not very fair :) It has handled it all. We went back and forth between the 2 series and 1 series (You even were nice enough to provide some personal insight). Honestly the cost difference of the 2 series would have meant I couldn't get some of the attachments and the attachments is what makes the tractor useful. Sitting higher on bigger tires I would be even more nervous being on some hills. The smaller turning radius I bet you is going to be more valuable than you think. While I like the look of the 2032 and the bigger tractor look to it, In the end the 1025R seems to be able to do nearly everything the 2025R can do and costs what,,, about 8k less? Since the 2025 uses the same attachments for the most part. 8k is a lot of money for bigger tires,. Seems like the real decision would be the 1025R versus a 3 series so you can move up to larger implements when you have the larger land area jobs. Thanks again for the video's. Our family has really learned a lot.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Thanks for the kind words. No, the 2025R is not 8k more than the 1025R. I suspect you are thinking of the 2032R when making that price comparison.

[@lodprice2343]

Because I am sentimental to things, I would have a hard time parting with “Johnny” if I were you and got the 2025R. As far as I know, TTWT started with “Johnny”. “Johnny” and family fit together like a fine wearing glove to the hand. Besides “Johnny” is not just an ordinary tractor as he is now a famous tractor. Although I have been a tractor fan for a long time, in all honesty, I got hooked on You Tube tractor videos watching TTWT and that means “Johnny”. I watched a long time before I became a subscriber or made comments. I look forward to seeing “Johnny” and the family in the videos more than I do the tractor shows on RFD TV. In fact, I keep hoping one of those big time city slickers with a television production company would approach TTWT for a tv program. If you ever decide to part with Johnny, let us know before you do as we might be interested in giving him a good home way down south - he’ll never have to clear snow.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

+Lod Price wow. Thanks for the comment! Leaves me almost speechless. Johnny gets worked hard here, but he has a climate controlled house, so it isn't TOO bad for him :-)

[@marshallman1au]

He suffers greatly ....

[@truckinchihuahuaalvieschre2494]

I'm glad to see that John Deere is listening to their customers. I just wished I could afford one now. So I think I'll just live with my 1025r. With my backhoe.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

+Alvie Schreckhise no need to fret if you have a 1025R TLB.

[@aaronburford5701]

Tim I thoroughly enjoy when you talk about tractors rhis way. Youbare thr best!

[@johnstonesmusicland1826]

We have placed our order for our 2020 2025R can't wait. JD should give you commisions We love your videos

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Congratulations!

[@Malakie]

When I bought my setup a few weeks ago, I went back and forth between the 1025 series and the 2025 series. But the price became the deciding factor and as said in another video, I ended up getting the new 2018 version of the 1025 series by luck when they ordered my unit. About the only thing I wish they had kept stock was the extra lights.. I have now added my own. BTW, they put my toolbox mounted to the BACK of the ROPS bar which is perfect because I can easily get the tools and pins for the 3 point in the back without having to walk around someplace else. There is also one other major difference. The steel light protectors, those cages that surround the lights, did not come with mine either.. I learned that the hard way. Being new to this I forgot about the damn rops bar my first time mowing. busted one of the lights from a tree branch and lifted the front of the tractor right off the ground. John Deere should make it mandatory for their sales people to explicitly warn people with the new angle of the ROPS system.. You must lower it because if it gets caught, unlike the straight up bar that would allow branches to slide up and over if you forgot, the new tilted forward version does not and brings the branch right down the back of the driver.. and if it does not snap could flip you backward upside down. Thankfully it only broke one of my lights and I was able to recover before the tractor went right up and over. Lesson learned believe me.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

+Malakie Usn I have video of that light replacement on my machine. Been there done that!

[@Malakie]

A mistake I did not and will not repeat... something JD really needs to hammer home to new owners though...

[@TractorTimewithTim]

+Malakie Usn you may be smarter than me. We hit our lights frequently on stuff

[@drewhenderson6254]

I am a little late to this video. My wife and I owned the 1025r for 4 years. About a month ago my wife and I decided we really needed some more lifting power. You see... My wife has a wholesale food business. So, once a month a truck comes and we must unload her product from a reefer van. There was a pallet that weighed roughly around 980 lbs. I knew that was a tad bit more than the lifting capacity of the 1025r. So I put the tiller on the back along with rim guard in the tires and gave it a try. I could not lift the pallet straight up, rather I had to just use the tilt and have the truck driver stand on the tiller. Needless to say, we decided to purchase the new larger frame 2032r. It is quite a bit larger, and yes, it lifts that 980 lb pallet like it is an empty box. We haven't been able to try it yet for our yard duties, so I am hoping it will do the job and be a true replacement for our trusty 1025r.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Good choice, Drew! Glad you didn’t opt for the 2025r for those needs.

[@nrfa6229]

This cracks me up, bc when I first told Tim that I was selling my 2016 John Deere 1025r... He questioned me about it. But now... He wants to get one. LOL. Too rich. 🤣😂🤣😂. You're killing me Tim. I'm the one who had the 1025r that, could be driven right or left footed bc I'm an above right knee amputee. I'm sure you'll get one, if you haven't already and just haven't seen the video on it yet. I support whatever decision that you tow make. Keep the videos coming👍🤙🤘. -T

[@TractorTimewithTim]

+Nrfa haven't heard from you in awhile. Hope you are doing well.

[@gregchambers5770]

Buy it Tim can't wait to see you guys put it to the test

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Sounds like fun!

[@ohiovalleypondandexcavatio2114]

The only reason to buy it would be ground clearance and better ride the stability issues are still there on uneven ground the 1025 was a great tractor but it is very tippy side to side with a heavy load. Remember how easily you sold me on 1025. I am willing to return the favor. By bringing up my 2038r and letting you play with it in exchange for a few cheeseburgers. But I would strongly recommend the 2038r over the 2025r it for a multitude of reasons not just because I have one.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Deal. ...as long as YOU bring the cheeseburgers too! :-)

[@avs8870]

Go for the 2038R

[@doncroddy7856]

Please permit me to play devil's advocate. I looked at JD when I was buying my tractor. Brand name omitted. I have a 29 hp tractor, and at the time I bought mine JD had a 25 hp, I think. Been a few years now. JD was a 2 speed HST, mine is 3 speed w/3 range setup. I didn't care for the hyd hook up for the front loader. The JD tires were smaller making the tractor set lower. I wanted the higher ground clearance, for moldboard plowing. The JD had the hyd lines much lower, under the tractor, than mine. Mine were tucked up under the platform. The JD was a bit more money and 4 hp less. Now! I believe the JD dealer told me the small JD's were built out of the country, as is my tractor. Having said all that, if you like JD, go for it! I myself, I went a different route and have been very satisfied with my tractor. I have a soft sided cab, that is made right here in Indiana. I have a custom built, by me, heater, plus a custom built light bar. I have a 4 ft King cutter tiller, and a Brinley 12 in plow, along with a 6 ft 3 point finish mower. I very much like your videos, and trust you will continue to make them. It would be interesting to work our tractors side by side and compare them in a head to head workout. Kokomo, Indiana

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Don, you evaluated the offerings, and bought the unit which best fits your needs. Nothing wrong with that. We try our best to keep from talking negative about any brand of tractor. We are happy that there is a competitive market with lots of options. I'm hoping you saw that attitude when we were playing with Philip's LS. Maybe we'll get a chance to meet up with you sometime. You are probably only 40 miles from us.

[@chaddthompson]

I was in the market for a new compact tractor this spring. Had an old yanmar 1802d that was getting long in the tooth. I looked at everything on the market at the time. The 1025r the Massey GC1720 and the kioti and Mahindra equivalents. I finally decided that they were all just a bit too small and just weren't enough "tractorish" for me. I ended up going with the Kioti CK2510 as it was bigger and heavier and was more comparable to my old yanmar. If JD would have had the 2025r I would have for sure taken a close look at it.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

+Chadd Thompson I like more choices!

[@DoubleA3]

I'm not one that gets too attached to a vehicle, or equipment just because I named it. "Johnny" has been a GREAT tractor, and will continue to be a great tractor, but it doesn't mean you will have to keep it forever. If there is another tractor that gives you a bit more of what you need (more ground clearance, better stability, ect), then maybe that tractor will serve you a little better. Of course, you have to compare the cost factor vs the benefit.

[@ohiovalleypondandexcavatio2114]

One thing I really like about the 32 and 38 is the lower idle it saves you a ton if fuel I think mine does about as well as my 1025 r did

[@TractorTimewithTim]

+Tim Bergfeld interesting. I would like lower idle.

[@tcbridges]

Love all your videos I have watched them many times and helped me made up my mind on a new tractor.Ok, Here its is after 2 months of looking and trying to decide what to do I determined the that is would be a bad chose for me to get the 2025R. I ended up yesterday buying a new 2032R and I'm glade I did. What a world of difference. This thing is so Hi-Tech its overwhelming after you get it home and start using it. First I have to say I had a 2720 and it was a great tractor I decided to sell it to down size so I did and got a new 1025R and in one month this fall I hated it .It was like a toy tractor for me. So I sold it in 2 days after listing it for sale. Went and looked at every brand out there including the Orange king. They are nothing like a JD. I bought a new 2032R with all the bells and whistles. Loader & HD Bucket and loops with quick connect. 72" command deck and also all the hydraulic front to rear hook ups. Rear I-match and weight box. Front 4 way hydraulic HD dozer & snow blade. This is the finest machine on the market. By Far the best on the market

[@johndeno562]

Good video as always. This will certainly open a new thought process for those with or wanting a sub compact tractor.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

+John Deno thanks John!

[@garylesh9590]

I Have mine Coming... Wiating on the Loader. I have All the Ken Bolton Hooks options you have reccomended... just waiting for the JD . Really enjoy all of your Videos, Keep it up.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

The waiting days are the hardest!

[@frankponte4031]

Nice observations & commentary Tim. Good job!

[@TractorTimewithTim]

+Frank Ponte thanks Frank!

[@philvredevelt646]

I have a 1026R and I love it the 2025R is new they just came out with this year if they wood had it when I got my I wood of bought it

[@semco72057]

That is a small tractor and the front bucket is nice for that size tractor, and the backhoe is nice for that tractor. I like the 3032E tractor I got which is about the size of the 790 tractor which I purchased in 2003, except that this new tractor have a front loader on it where the 790 didn't, but I did get the basic implements I needed like the trailer, box blade, and brush hog with the 790 tractor. With this tractor I only got the bucket which was what I wanted.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

+Sidney Mathious you got a great value, Sidney!

[@austin73]

I bought a B2601 over the BX. I'm sure much of my reasons of going with the B series over the BX translates well into 2R over 1R in a Deer. So that said... The B2601 has about the same HP as a BX2680, but they are very different engines. The B series is larger and spins slower to make the same HP. It has a flatter torque curve and makes more overall power throughout the rest of the powerband. The entire tractor is heavier, which means more of that power gets to the ground. The hydraulics are faster and the lift capacities are much greater. Beefier axles. 3 speed transmission. And as mentioned many times, you get much better ground clearance. I think you should get the 2025R! You use your machine a lot and I think you'd notice a big difference in the various projects you get into.

[@ronsellew5696]

Tim, skip the cruise. I went on a cruise once in 1967. We sailed out of San Francisco headed out into the pacific ocean for 18 days. It was hot, the food was bad, and we couldn't wait to get off that boat I lost 20 lbs on that ordeal! Take the wife to What a burger and buy the tractor!

[@TractorTimewithTim]

+Ron Sellew sounds good to me!

[@marshallman1au]

Dead man walkin' ......

[@crazyhass84]

U dont think cruises have changed since 1967?! Umm ok.

[@sisutrucks]

we were thinking about a 65hp tractor for clearing the yard and work around the house. but the new holland dealer had a td85 with a trima loader on the lot. 18 hours on only. got a good deal on it and a Duun tf220 snowblower. bit of an overkill. but it sure will be an improvement over the IHC 633 from 1977 i had last winter :)

[@patrenwick205]

Good video Tim. Personally I like, I like my 1 series but think a little more ground clearance would be nice. A lot of comments on how tipsy it might be but people need to remember that bigger tires also mean more weight when loaded.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Exactly. Will be interesting to see how it handles. Loaded tires will help.

[@ScoutCrafter]

For the life of me I'll never understand why tractor manufacturers felt the need to put small tires on tractors. Ever since the invention of the tractor, engineers realized large tires are more efficient and highly suited for tractor work. Look at a Ford 8N or 9N tractor, even with limited horsepower those tractors can PULL! I have no interest in a tractor with golf cart tires and no clearance. Everybody I speak to feels like they have to compromise with today's tractor offerings. Maybe my love for old tractors is tainting my judgement... Thanks Tim!

[@TractorTimewithTim]

There is good reason on the 1025R, Scout. That shorter frame really decreases the turning radius...which is awesome! I like the 2025R as another option. I'm glad they aren't replacing the 1025R with this tractor.

[@johngoodwin8889]

I have the bx2370 with mower deck and loader great tractor but no ground clearance I kept the bx but bought a b2650 large frame to get the clearance love them both they each have a purpose

[@TractorTimewithTim]

I agree. No single tractor is perfect. Different sizes/shapes have different specialties.

[@stevendrake1251]

I like it. Try for 0% loan. Same as cash pretty much. I really need the 2032R but not right now with truck, car, and tractor payments, it would be iffy at best.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

+Steven Drake no use stretching your finances.

[@michaelmactavish1728]

my kubota dealer has 0% for 84 months

[@stevendrake1251]

Tractor Time with Tim True but if you have the cash, let it stay in the bank and let the interest accrue. Option for turf tires. Since you mow your yard with it. Still like it!

[@billcraddock7166]

C'mon Tim......take her on the cruise.....then have Johnnys younger sister Jenny delivered, while you're away!!!! ;-) lol

[@TractorTimewithTim]

I LIKE!

[@chadmilliser1]

My 3 year old son likes to watch your shows and he tells me he is going to drive a tractor soon !

[@TractorTimewithTim]

You need to make that happen!

[@larrywilkens7428]

Boy its going to be tough choosing 1025r or 2025r. In line for new yard tractor can't wait! Thank for your videos they really are good!!!!!!

[@steiger256]

I like the bigger tires. It makes it look more like a compact tractor rather than a garden tractor. I think you should get one of these you know to show everyone what it can do. Maybe even a cab also ha ha

[@johanbos160]

There is no way back tim . The 2025r is the right tractor for al the work you do .👍👍

[@TractorTimewithTim]

maybe, and might be a bit too small yet. Not sure.

[@robertpurdy3208]

I thing to add on quick tatch vs front 3pt, the quick tatch has down pressure and is way easier/ faster to hook up. I've owned both (1026 and 3046 mainly for snow) the 3046 had a nice factory cab but it was very tippy and really only good for snow, too tippy for any other work in our area. Now we run plows on trucks and I want a 1025 again, miss the 1026

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Interesting. Do you think the 'tippy' aspect is due to the cab? Do you think a 3046R open station would be as tippy? the 1025R is definitely special. I've heard several folks with 3 series say that there are tasks they cannot do with the 3R that could be accomplished with a 1-series.

[@robertpurdy3208]

Tractor Time with Tim I think the cab was a big part of it as well as the narrow stance. I just pulled the trigger on a 2025R with R3 tires. I like the wide stance of the 2032 and 2038, but I feel like the size and weight would scare customers. Hoping the 2025 has a nice combination of power, clearance and nimbleness.

[@mkessler10]

any experience with stability on hills? I had 2010 2305, loaded tires and concrete ballast and for the most part stable on my hilly property,. (my driveway is about 15deg). I would love something larger than the 2025r but don't have the space on my small property. I like the extra ground clearance, larger tires and could use any extra lift capacity I can get of the 2025. I am worried that the extra height of the 2025r will be tippy, I plan on loading the tires, ballast box and possibly 2-3" spacers, should I be concerned, wonder if the extra weigh of the machine and wider stance over the 1025 negates my worries...thoughts?

[@macdawg6403]

I agree with Stephen.. Most of your 3pt pto equipment start at 20 pto hp.

[@sprucegoose1016]

I'm looking for a compact tractor with a cab that can help me with my firewood business and yard work as well. Thanks for all these videos tim 😎🙌

[@Jthumper]

How much higher can the bucket lift than the 1025R? I had trouble lifting items into the back of lifted trucks when I borrowed my neighbors 1025R

[@TractorTimewithTim]

+Jthumper essentially no higher. Maybe an inch or so due to the larger tires??? Same loader

[@Jthumper]

the larger 2 series has the same loader? wow, I would expect a stronger bucket for sure- well, not a lot of reason not to buy the 1 series then :)

[@TractorTimewithTim]

+Jthumper 2025r share loader and backhoe with 1025r. 2032/2038r have larger loader/bh

[@thnksno]

So is this like comparing a current BX to a B7500? I recently acquired a B7500 through a property transaction. It does all I need it to do, but seeing the newer smaller tire tractors has me confused. They offer more options than my B does, but the B is larger. Are they one in the same like the 1025 and 2025?

[@TractorTimewithTim]

+thnksno someone else will have to answer. I'm getting better at understanding the Kubota line, but not fully there yet, especially on the B series.

[@thnksno]

Tractor Time with Tim I know you're more into JD and my B7500 is a bit older. The previous owner used it primarily to mow, he had a 6ft finish mower on the rear. I gave up on that and bought a JD Z930M which is much more efficient at mowing. For now I'm using the Kubota to move material, scape the driveway and buck logs with a set of clamp on forks.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

+thnksno sounds good. I love tractors which get the job done! Sounds like your B7500 does just that!!! Congratulations!

[@stephenspence1204]

Honestly it's price for me. 1025 25hp 2025 25hp An about $7000 more for the 2025. It's the same horse power.. why didn't john deer just up it to 28 or 29hp. At least you could justify the price increase!! Longer An taller tires An sitting higher with out widening the 2025 is a accident waiting to happen on a side slope. Jmo

[@TractorTimewithTim]

I don't believe it is that much more $$ (7k). Compare MSRP to MSRP, and it will not be that much difference. Blame Obama for the 25hp. They can't raise the hp due to the Tier 4 diesel regs without adding lots of additional DEF/DPF equipment. This requires more space, and more cost.

[@stephenspence1204]

22,800 2025 front loader an mower deck. Around 17,000 for 1025 loader an mower deck. $5800 difference but all dealers are different. Still the same HP. Thanks for the info on the HP though an def/dpf I didn't know this !!

[@tgilldesign]

We can hope that is another reg Trump will roll back. Nice looking unit, but I would agree that if I am buying a 'larger' tractor, the engine should reflect that increase as well..... after all, you are adding an additional 350 lb base weight to the tractor that the same motor used in the lighter weight 1025R. It is nice that the deck is able to raise higher.... that always seemed a little odd on my 1025R. I just don't see what you are able to do any better for the price increase.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

+tgilldesign will be interesting to see selling prices

[@stephenspence1204]

Still a good looking new series John Deere did so well with the 2r series. I'm tempted to buy this unit !! Great video Tim. Looking forward to more!!

[@woolliehead]

hi Tim does the 2 series have a bigger engine as up grading to a slightly larger tractor with the same HPi think would be staying still you need the bigger HP better with a little to much than a little too small keep up the good work

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Probably right.

[@kennethmarlow2731]

I like the bigger 2025R, they have probably increased the horse power for the added hydraulic flow. It's still small enough to get into tight places, and heavy enough to handle heavier loads. Johnny needs a big bother , he's lonely ya know

[@TractorTimewithTim]

+Kenneth Marlow same HP (same exact engine and drive train)

[@herbertbracy8679]

Tim , might of missed the video, but have you ever did a video where you drive and test out the 2025r ,

[@MDC2020]

I've been thinking about the 1025R or 2025R as a first time tractor? I don't have alot of property maybe a acre total but I do find myself having to shovel 10 ton a gravel about once a year and I'm always asked to help the neighbors at the lake. I was thinking this would be a good to have tool since I could use it as a wheel barrow and lawn mower lol

[@TractorTimewithTim]

I would encourage you to get the backhoe. You’ll be surprised how much you use it.

[@MDC2020]

I know I want to build a deck with 6x6 posts and will need close to 30 holes so I think the auger attachment would be niiiice.

[@richardholder8847]

Thanks for the video Tim! What was your opinion on the 260B having a second seat vs swivel? As a tall guy myself (6'4") I always worry about leg room...... how did it compare to yours? Thanks again!

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Wasn't able to get up into the seat. However, we did get a good look at it. I actually like the concept of a second seat. the rotating mechanism doesn't work very well, and it is one more thing which must be added/replaced when adding a backhoe. The leg room LOOKED to be similar, but again, hard to tell until you are sitting there. Sorry.

[@richardholder8847]

Tractor Time with Tim ... I'll know a lot more in 2-3 weeks. Mine is supposed to arrive. I may have one of the first ones so we shall see. Also thanks for the videos! My family really enjoys watching yours work together. You guys have talked us into doing potatoes next year...lol. Wishing you and your family the best from us in Michigan.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

+Richard Holder thanks for the kind words, Richard. Glad to be an encouragement to your family!

[@doncroddy7856]

I guess, my latest comment didn't get posted. My fault. What I wanted to add, was after viewing this video, again, I realized my tractor is a compact tractor and not a subcompact tractor. So, I need to apologize. Sorry Tim. Anyway, weather Green or another color tractor, enjoy what you have and give a good natured poke at the other guy. Keep those videos coming! Merry Christmas all!

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Yea, I only saw the one comment this morning from you. I appreciate your followup. Again, I love the variety of (sub)compact tractors. Lots of choices. Maybe we can come see yours sometime. We might have some time next week, not sure.

[@mikedickson2925]

All new tractors are NICE!!!! I would have to ask are the few differences worth the extra money. My sub-compact Massey Ferguson is sized about the same as your 1025. I find it very tippy from side to side but powerful enough for anything I have asked it to do, and there has been some pretty heavy duty work done with it. The bigger tires, if the width hasn't changed , may make the 2025 even more tippy, just saying. But if you can talk the Finance Committee into it, I'd go for the BIGGER machine!!!! Good comparison I must say. Your comments were very unbiased one way or the other. Well done.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

+Mike Dickson thanks for the kind words. We want to be 'we report, you decide', especially on stuff like this.

[@davidharris6581]

Get one Tim and take Kristi on that cruise, Why not do both? You only go around once. Who else you gonna get to laugh at your jokes and look at you like she does. It's sweet! Go big or go home! :) No big deal but I ordered some stuff from Ken's over the weekend and never saw a place to enter coupon code TTWT. Not too worried about not getting the discount but hate that you did not get credit for the sale.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

don't have a code for Ken yet. No problem. Just tell him when he emails you after the sale :-)

[@marshallman1au]

Yes .... Christy has eyes ONLY for Tim .... You can see it a mile off .....

[@TractorTimewithTim]

+Marshall Man dunno what I would do without her!

[@Backhoebb]

Looking at machines this week, would you recommend this over the 1025r ? Is it significantly more capable in terms of lifting and loading?( backhoe/loader) Thanks for the great video

[@TractorTimewithTim]

+Built To Last Lockwood design Llc keep watching (I know you didn't watch it all due to the time on your comment. :-)

[@tcbridges]

Tim, I just ordered a 2025R with the loader and 60" auto connect. and rear quick connect. 4 work lights and rear wheel weights.Cant wait to get it.I sold my 1025R loaded the same way. Let you know when it comes in.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

+Thomas Bridges interesting. I wondered if folks would see this as a 'trade up' opportunity.

[@Will-tm5bj]

So how was it?

[@markcalvert6949]

If I was to upgrade I would go to a 2032 or 2038. I don't see the logic here. I love the 1025R for my applications. Step-up the hp Tim, this will increase job size and more $ per hour and The bride can have her cruise....a win - win!🤗🤗🤗😎😎😎😊😊🤗🤗🤗🤗

[@TractorTimewithTim]

+Mark Calvert sounds good, Mark!

[@BigD256]

I'd say if you are going to upgrade/add to the family, get a 2032R or 2038R. I don't see the minor improvements of the 2025 vs 1025 to be worth the price difference. Overall I'm VERY happy with my new 2032R, but there ARE times I wish I'd have gone with the 2038R.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

+Dana M don't believe I would get the 2032r. $2500 extra for 2038R, right? I would want the HP.

[@BigD256]

Tractor Time with Tim, yes, that's $2500 extra I wish I'd spent. But I went in with the intention of looking at a X700 or 1025...so I was already suffering sticker shock lol. I'm glad I didn't go smaller though, I've pushed the loader to the limits on mine as it is. I just moved a hot tub for my neighbor yesterday and it lifted it, but I bet it wouldn't have if it was any heavier.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

+Dana M I know what you mean. A 1025R was WAY more than we needed. Never even considered going bigger at the time!

[@howardgarney8808]

Go for the 2038R!

[@TractorTimewithTim]

or 3039R?

[@marshallman1au]

Them ones as well ..... In for a penny .... In for a pound! ROFL!

[@TractorTimewithTim]

+Marshall Man yep!

[@bradcoddington1679]

You would be better off finding a nice low hour 3020 series Like I did than dealing with the emissions on these new tractors like the 3039r if your looking for a tractor in that size Like your dads 3320. I got a 3720 with a 151 hrs on it and love it. I really would have liked to get a 4020 series but I wanted a midmount mower.

[@MrJohn714]

The grapple Tim, what about the grapple ,this kinda puts it on the back burner huh?

[@TractorTimewithTim]

We got lots of burners, John!

[@travis2511]

Great review and points made. personally I'd want more power along with the larger size.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

+Travis NYE would love to try it out.

[@chuckpolhamus5080]

A person always wants more, bigger, better, faster, stronger, it never ends..it's how we are, seems like it's just the same tractor with bigger tires and a huge price.. Pray for the folks in Texas who have lost everything and now Florida. Take care

[@TractorTimewithTim]

+Chuck Polhamus exactly right, Chuck. These are simply material things. Harvey and Irma have caused folks some real pain!

[@scott5609]

Tim i enjoy your video's i have a 1025r so i am biased and hope you keep Johnny but i am alot more about performance the lift capacity is way to close to trade up.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

+scott5609 yes, not much improvement in those important areas.

[@tcbridges]

If your considering on buying a 2025R your best to look at the 2032R in my books. I did and it makes more since for the money.

[@mark-ew8hk]

you need it TIM but i would like to go one size bigger than that

[@marshallman1au]

Get all three ..... >8^)

[@TractorTimewithTim]

+Marshall Man I like you're thinkin!

[@kansascowboy5721]

I guess I've not been paying attention, I thought you had this tractor!! Lol!!!

[@TractorTimewithTim]

+Denny Clifton you must have been watching on 'the big screen'!!!

[@duncanrhaulplays332]

If I "stepped up" I think I would have to go to a 3 series. I would love to have the 3033R Cab model but since you can't put a mid mount mower on that configuration I would have to go up to a 3039R. I live in Mississippi so a cab with AC would be the primary reason. The heat and dust here when mowing is horrible. But like Tim, I don't want to trade in my 1025R but rather have both. The finance comity is definitely not convinced though.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Why can’t you put a MMM on a 3033R cab? My dad has one on a 3320 Cab

[@duncanrhaulplays332]

@@TractorTimewithTim That's a good question? I have only looked at it through the JD website "Build Your Own" feature and it will not allow it. But that could just be a coding problem.

[@kirkbrinkley6990]

Hey Tim, I may have missed it, but I don't remember you mentioning if the width of the wheel base is noticeably different from the 1 series. I wonder if the taller tires will have any effect on the overall center of gravity? I sometimes find my 1 series to be a little unstable when working on uneven terrain. I know the large frame 2 series machines are wider and even offer optional wheel spacers for additional stability. Just curious if you noticed any difference with this machine and if you think the larger tires would help or hurt in the stability department? Thanks again for your videos. I find them very helpful.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

We were planning to measure tread width, but forgot. However, since they support the 54" mower, I'm certain it is nearly identical to 1025R. I do the COG would be raised (not good), but I believe this can be offset by adding fluid to the (larger) rear tires. Also, the tractor is already 350 lbs heavier, so this should offset the higher COG as well. So, overall, I suspect it will be very similar with fluid filled tires. Just guessing here.

[@tcbridges]

Why in all the comments is it I never here anyone mention anything about a New Holland tractor at all. I am now wondering if I should at least look at them before I buy the 2025R. What do you guys think

[@mi2tn]

So let me get this straight. Less then 1 acre you need a bigger tractor, more then 1 acre you need a smaller tractor? That is if you have no hills. :) Well Christy, I guess it's up to you. Are you going on a cruise? When you do and you see my ship out there some where let them know I've been waiting my whole life for it to make port. Make sure and let me know too so I can make sure I'm there when it comes in. :) Be the only way I'll be able to get a new tractor. I do like it.

[@Malakie]

I got mine as I have a 4 acre yard with 3/4 of an acre of that as a garden. Then there is another 120 acres of land which has a 4 acre pond that we also keep landscaped as well as all the paths through the woods to the pond etc. Prior we were using two $800 walmart specials for our lawn work mowing etc... I hate spending money but in this case, I wish I had done so much sooner.

[@daved7024]

Looks like a nice unit. Thanks for sharing.

[@srosegriffith9844]

I have a JD 1025r TLB and use the heck out of it. I have a dream of setting up some of my land for horses (like just two or three horses) and want to hay my own fields but I don’t want to lose access to all my implements that I have for the 1025r so I thought to keep the little 1025r and add a 2025r to the JD stable which would be used for horse duty and maybe even building a small garden with it. I know I would have to get a mini bailer for the 2025r and a small rake and small cutter for it. My land has pretty level ground for haying so I don’t need a lot of HP to hay it. Am I crazy to think of having both 1025r and a 2025r?

[@TractorTimewithTim]

2 tractors is not crazy at all. There are MANY times that two tractors will help you get a job done. Think of loading the manure spreader with one machine, and pulling the spreader with the other. I would not recommend a 2025r as your ‘larger’ tractor. Rather, I would recommend a 2032r, or 3039r as that second tractor. I don’t think you’ll see the necessary performance boost from the 2025r. I’m reality, a 3039r would be my recommendation. Rather than a ‘mini-baler’, you could then pull a full size square baler. They are easily purchased used for much less money than the mini balers, and they will bale MUCH faster. Just some thoughts to consider. If after a year or two, you find the 3039r to be all you need, you could easily sell the 1025r.

[@srosegriffith9844]

@@TractorTimewithTim Great advice, Tim. What do you think of a 2038r?

[@TractorTimewithTim]

@@srosegriffith9844 I have one. I like it…a LOT. I DO think you might find it a bit too weak for that ‘larger’ tractor, especially with heavier hay tasks. That is why I suggested the 3039r. Of course, the 3R is more money.

[@lorzon]

I'm old fashioned about small tractors. For that kind of money, you could get a 30 or 40 HP 30 series.

[@herbertbracy8679]

very interested on the 2025r , Tim have you ever had the chance to put this tractor to work, I have seen just about all your videos but cant remember seeing you work this 2025 r

[@TractorTimewithTim]

I have used a 2025r one time when my friend Matt brought one to help me move in late (Nov) 2018.

[@nashguy207]

Tim Take her on a cruise this. Let them get the first year bugs worked out on the new 2025R and then get the new tractor next year.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

+nashguy207 we'll see how things go.

[@Alanschmalzried]

The 2025r looks very nice

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Minor step up, but a nice 'minor step'

[@Alanschmalzried]

Tractor Time with Tim A very interesting tractor. A great step up from the 1025r. For someone getting into a scut or cut for the first time it would probably be a great step up from the 1 series. But as a 1 series owner looking to upgrade, I'm not sure it's the answer. I really like the added content of this tractor that gives it the "sizzle" of the 1025r....and no dreaded dpf.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

+Alan Schmalzried I think you've got a good handle on it.

[@skipduld3630]

U TOUGHT ME A LOT USING A TRACTOR , I HAVE A BABY NEW HOLLAND. IAM TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE IS THE BATTERY INDECATOR LINE. CAN U HELP?

[@TractorTimewithTim]

+Skip Duld sorry skip. I have no idea. What do you mean by battery indicator line?

[@skipduld3630]

if u would look at ur car battery it has line to let u know how far to fill the water up to. I didn't find a line on my tractor battery or I didn't see it.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

+Skip Duld not sure, Skip. I would fill it enough that it covers the conductors in there...which is usually near the top.

[@tcbridges]

Well Tim Where supposed to be available for Oct and now November is gone and how Dec 18th is here then January 2018 will be here. Still no info on availability . Just heard Spring 2018 it will be coming now. Went to the JD dealer doday. Thinking of Putting altogether a loaded 2032R this week

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Based on your situation, you would be happier with a 2032R

[@Donny.L77]

Hey Tim love the videos. Quick question I’ve been looking into the 1025r/2025r/2032r with front loader, bush hog and box blade, I have 18 acres of property that needs mowing and I have a long gravel driveway that gets ruts and needs to be scraped along with horse pastures and stalls that need grading after big rainstorms, I feel like the 1025r might be too small for the property and may get stuck in muddy sections after rain. Along with using it on my property I’d like to offer mowing and other tractor services in my area what tractor would you suggest? I feel the 2032r would work great on my property but wonder if it would be too big to help others in the community with mowing and various tasks, what’s your opinion?

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Agree with you. You need the 2r.

[@jamesdiehl8690]

If they are so much alike, I would just get the 2025. If I needed more hp, I would go to a 3 series or higher. It doesn't sound like you gain much It doesn't sound like you gain much in hydraulic rate.

[@mark31383]

Tim, would like to get your thoughts on something. I'm looking to buy the 1025r, but also looking at the 2025r. My concern is since the 2025r is wider, you would need to have a wider bush hog or tiller. Do you think the 25 hp would handle that? I really don't want to get into the 32HP because I don't want to deal with DPMF. Thanks.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

It is only an inch or so wider. You can get by with 4’ tiller. ...and for my work, I wish I had a 5’ bush hog anyway.

[@mark31383]

Thanks

[@Mr42960]

Darn you Tim for even making me think about trading my 1025! Looks like a great improvement over the older 2 series small frames, which I would have bought if they weren't the jump in price from the 1. Is the backhoe R&R the same as 1 series on this machine?

[@TractorTimewithTim]

R&R???

[@Mr42960]

I'm sorry, remove and re install. It is so easy on the 1 series, I wondered how or if different on this 2.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

They say it is even easier. We did not get to see it. I doubt it is much different, myself. It will certainly not be any MORE difficult.

[@joekorecki3081]

Plan on getting a 2025r . Is this a good unit.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

I’m sure it is a fine unit. All depends on your needs.

[@tcbridges]

I just sold my 1025R with 130 hrs on it for 14,000 and the new 2025R with same set up is 19,990 & tax for the same tractor ??? I just went up to Kobota and looked at a BX2680 thats nice also. Waiting for a call back on price. Didn't want to sit around waiting so we will see

[@TractorTimewithTim]

+Thomas Bridges I'm not sure why you would go to BX. It is smaller than the 1025R.

[@bryanveevee5975]

Here's a thought. If you get this tractor, you could keep the 1025r too and have one tractor for you and one for your wife. I'm sure that would sound like a good idea to your wife. ;) That and going on a cruise I suppose to help seal the deal.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

+Bryan Van Voorst I like it!

[@tomcarter9816]

I like the 2025r with the bigger tires, and everything about it except; It has the same motor as the 1025r does, in my opinion; JD needs to keep the same tractor because it’s just big enough, not too big for most people’s yard work (+) But, they really need to put some more motor in this tractor, even if it's just 5 or 10 more HP and keep the same tractor size. I don’t know, to me the only option after the 2025r tractors are just too big for mowing the yard, as well as other tasks on the property. It’s a nice tractor, no doubt about that, but it's just like a 1025r with bigger tires as it is, just like Tim stated in his video.

[@daveknowshow]

its a good looking tractor for sure.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

+daveknowshow isn't every tractor 'good looking'? At least to me!!

[@daveknowshow]

lol me to

[@lucasgordon4923]

Tractor Time with Tim except for case tractors I don't like them

[@WhidbeyIsguy]

Tim have you ever plowed a garden with a JD 1023/25 and then used a tiller on it?

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Well, once. But the plowing was on established sod, so quite the rough ride. Search for ‘drone first use’ or something like that in our videos. This app I use for comments does not allow me to post links!

[@WhidbeyIsguy]

\58/@@TractorTimewithTim, Thanks Tim I will look for that footage.

[@jcbryant2305]

Can u do a video on the 2032r

[@gclaytony]

Well, just my opinion. If I was about to buy a 1025R, I might opt for the 2025 R instead. But... i don't see enough difference to drive a person to trade in a 1025R to get this. To get a significant step up in capability, the "full" 2032 or 2038, or something in the 3R series are the options. The 3R have a better price point compared to same hp rated 2R. However for small, confined areas, or less than 5 acres with no brush, I think the 1025R is impossible to beat, while the aesthetic changes to the new 2025R seem to compromise those capabilities slightly. I guess, overall, I feel the new 2025R muddies up the JD SCUT/CUT line, being neither fish nor fowl. It would make sense if there were no existing 1R series, or if that line were being retired. It seems that it will split the buyer base rather than bring more in.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

+Clayton Yendrey I like more choices!

[@gclaytony]

More choices sounds good, if no costs associated. Once you start attaching costs to the choices, then there need to be some very well defined benefits or capabilities associated with them to allow a buyer to weigh the cost vs. benefit. I don't see that clear delineation model series alignment with what is essentially an up spec'd 1R that has been wedged into the 2R line, but apparently lacking any commonality with the rest of the 2R line. Now had the 2018 1025 R been this unit, with a general beefing up of the 1R series, then it 'fits'. Unlike now. I suspect that this may become a one off experiment by JD, to be melded back into the 1R lineup at a later date. Consumer acceptance will make that determination.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

+Clayton Yendrey i might have called this the 1025rx

[@gclaytony]

Now make a 1032R on this frame, with a solid 25 PTO hp, and then you've got something to talk about... 😎

[@TractorTimewithTim]

+Clayton Yendrey exactly! I would LOVE THAT!

[@thd5678]

I was set on the 1025r. Now I can't decide!

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Yea, who knows!?!?!

[@edboggs4066]

Tim have you heard of the problem of the 2025R going into gear? Just bought my 2025R from John Deere and it seems they don't know what to do. I want to get this fixed while under warranty. Do you know someone I can contact at John Deere.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

If it won’t go into gear, press the forward or reverse pedal slightly while applying pressure to the gearshift. It should slide right in then. Once you get the hang of that, it becomes second nature.

[@edboggs4066]

I do that now but this is not the way the tractor was intended to work. Needs to be repaired.@@TractorTimewithTim

[@TractorTimewithTim]

Ed, I must disagree. Having many years of experience with all brands of these little tractors, this is just how they work. It is working as designed.

[@CashJohnston]

I understand the engine is the same HP. How about at the PTO? Is the engineering around the PTO the same too? I wish the PTO on my 1 series was a little more durable. Otherwise, I'd rather move up in actual power if I had to make a change. But the 1 Series is just about right for my needs.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

+Cash Johnston it will have more power than your 1023e. You would find the 1025r to have more PTO ho. The 2025r is same engine/pto power as 1025r

[@CJPhillips6648]

Is Kristy ready to get a new Johnny? I would love to get a 2032 R if I could afford it.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

+CJ Phillips not quite. We'll see

[@truckinchihuahuaalvieschre2494]

I like the fact that it has the step to get on and off of it when the mower decks not on it. With my bad back it's a challenge to get on even the 1025r on a bad day. And Dad can barely get on it with his bad knees with the mower deck using it for a step. I just wish that the my 1025r had another hydraulic attachment so I could put a Grappler on the bucket. I believe this one does does it not?

[@TractorTimewithTim]

I think it is available, but not standard.

[@truckinchihuahuaalvieschre2494]

Tractor Time with Tim the step?

[@TractorTimewithTim]

+Alvie Schreckhise didn't even mention it, did I? Sorry

[@PhatboyHD88]

What about the 1026R isn't that the next step up ? More HP isnt it ? More lift capacity ?

[@TractorTimewithTim]

+PhatboyHD88 1026r is previous generation of 1025r. Another obama casualty. It was over the 25hp boundary, so would not meet tier 4 regulations.

[@stevenvandensen967]

I don't know if I want that they many nice tractors out there I got to decide I have to I'm going to have to get about 5 of them

[@buildexplore3278]

Nice tractor but my 1025 works great for me. I would be a little concerned with the weight and size of tires maybe tearing up the yard.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

I think you'll find the pressure exerted on the grass to be actually LESS than with your 1025R. think of it as the number of square inches of ground contact will go up MORE than the weight. So the actual Pounds per square inch will actually be lower. Make sense?

[@buildexplore3278]

Tractor Time with Tim you sound convinced, is this going to be a surprise in a coming up video.

[@TractorTimewithTim]

+CR Mills no surprises in the near term!

[@tcbridges]

Ok I have a good question for you. You have a 1025R and the new 2025R is coming out soon. The 2025R has the same motor at the 1025R. Have you had a chance to start the 2025R and run it to warm up temp to see if its as bad a the 1025R with shaking on start & stop and if the rev has to be that hi to work the tractor. If the 2025R is the same then its not worth the money difference of over $6000 for the little new extras that they are. There the same tractor with bigger tires & wheels

[@TractorTimewithTim]

+Thomas Bridges it is identical engine and power train. To my knowledge, it will behave identically. How much more for the 2032R?

[@michigantler5046]

good job

[@TractorTimewithTim]

thanks for your comment.

[@28cruzin]

I see it as uncmplicated. Replacing Johnny, and just improving performance including comfort, ok. Keeping Johnny is another thing altogether. Keeping Johnny would mean a REAL bigger brother. If not Johnny would try to keep up with the 2025 and might embaress him. Just sayin'.