Is Tidal Wave a BETTER Top 1 than Acheron? (Tidal Wave VS. Acheron) (Geometry Dash)

Is Tidal Wave a BETTER Top 1 Extreme Demon than Acheron? (Tidal Wave VS. Acheron) (Geometry Dash)
in this video, I compare tidal wave and acheron to see which one is a better top 1 extreme demon. zoink recently verified tidal wave, a new upcoming top 1 extreme demon, meaning he now has the entire top 3 in verifications, with acheron and avernus at 2 and 3 on the demonlist as well. dude is gonna verify the whole top 10 lol
Chapters:
0:00 - intro
0:43 - explanation
1:16 - decoration
3:45 - theming
5:31 - originality
6:20 - song choice lol
7:45 - conclusion/winner
My discord server: / discord
Music Credit:
Persona 5 OST - Life Goes On
Djjaner - Cosmic Dreamer
Lena Raine - Otherside (Tanger Remix)

[@abdokh5623]

Although its not perfect i just appreciate the fact that we finally got a non hell themed top1

[@BURGERGAMERGAMING]

But Acheron isn’t either….

[@duke6585]

How does that matter

[@giddy9831]

@@duke6585hell themes are overrated

[@orange33340]

@@BURGERGAMERGAMING yeah why do some people think acheron is hell themed?

[@BURGERGAMERGAMING]

@@orange33340 ikr

[@X3m.Gaming]

i dont care what level is better. the fact that he didnt call acheron a hell level is the biggest win for me

[@Jbait]

the definitions of acheron is hell/hades man

[@xju303]

He called it hell theme

[@LzeniX]

Acheron is hell theme? I throught it was volcanic theme

[@yettusyettus5281]

Acheron is edgy/death theme

[@Licoyssss]

It isn’t? Then they are both great! (Tidal wave still best tho)

[@black_koolaid]

The deco isn't amazing, but it feels like the beginning of the longer top 1 trend, which is something I've wanted to see for a while

[@nazunasapostle1stapostleof755]

Its like the yatagarasu era again but much harder lol

[@ImZoinksSon]

I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if Zoink verified yet another top 1-3. Very excited to see what he has in store for us in the near future.

[@General_Blockz-Ibelieveyouguys]

*Aeternus steps in A new challenge has appeared!

[@cockee4889]

Well you would know as ur his son

[@Stupidguy666]

We need a food themed top 1 imo

[@dobi2447]

FAX

[@wavix]

HOLY BASED

[@topaztheguy]

YES

[@ccloudy22]

The McDemon

[@YoKai74-ez5nj]

Lmao “Balanced buffetl

[@personfromgermany]

A lot of people forget that onilink isnt as experienced in decorating as pretty much everyone that worked on acheron as well as working with an original theme. Deco being unpolished isnt that much of an issue to me as it still looks pretty good.

[@thenewboeguy_official]

Ya but the optimization is a BIG problem

[@ERRR0RR]

Being made by an inexperienced creator doesn't make the level better

[@martyej3689]

@@thenewboeguy_officialnaaah my garbage pc can run it pretty well

[@RealMysticalMan]

@@martyej3689 It may be because my PC is from 2017, but I lag even with FPS bypass

[@justapvzCactus]

​​@@thenewboeguy_officialI can play it on my low price phone without lag

[@karpyy24]

When I played through tidal wave in practice, it was the only level in the top 10 that felt genuinely fun to play. Gonna try and pour attempts into it to see if beating it is realistic for me

[@bradens.3125]

for me the main weakness of tidal wave is its lack of variety in its sections, if that makes sense. due to it having long stretches where it uses the exact same background and deco style, it only really feels like it has 3 or 4 distinct sections of the level, and that repetition is made a LOT worse due to it being much longer than the average level

[@Dea2766]

Acheron is practicly the same lol

[@joeschmoe-qk9rj]

but doesn't acheron only have two sections? the one where is pulses red and the one where the objects' outlines flash white. correct me if i'm wrong tho

[@airbeasty1549]

@@joeschmoe-qk9rjI think the fact that the song is so good and varied makes up for the deco

[@exiled_shadegd]

Keep in mind Tidal Wave is a 3 minute long level with 4x speed for a large portion of the level, that 258k object count seems daunting and titanic but if you do the math, it actually has a lower object density than a lot of levels like Limbo, KOCMOC, Slaughterhouse, Firework, Avernus just to name a few top demons. I think Acheron is a better top 1 but I like Tidal Wave as a level more and Acheron has been top 1 for a year at this point so a change is very needed, especially since TW is long and not a hell level

[@shrekiscool4743]

Pretty sure it has more objects than slaughterhouse but okie

[@ItsNerou]

​@@shrekiscool4743slaughterhouse length are short and it has 150k object

[@kartowkaed]

Bro forgot that tidal wave looks bad for those 260k obj

[@ItsNerou]

@@kartowkaed ehh I'm talking about the fact that tidal wave have an ok object for a XL level but understand what you're saying

[@exiled_shadegd]

@@kartowkaed it’s so long that 260k objects is lower than expected for a 2023 level

[@baconboy69]

I really like tidal wave personally, it’s just so cool and it’s so inviting. it’s like it wants you to play it and it just enjoys being a level

[@taktikstayla4024]

Absolutely, inviting is the perfect word for it

[@spencerlombardi258]

I love tidal wave so much more. It has a unique theme, and its decoration is amazing even if it is a little sloppy

[@blueyoshi5067]

Tidal wave is the best top 1

[@rafsangd6810]

acheron>

[@aidle]

Recency bias

[@TheKalvinator]

​@@blueyoshi5067 Artificial Ascent and Bloodlust clear by a mile

[@gooseinatuxedo]

i hate Tidal Waves deco so much

[@zenith2a5]

I love tidal wave for having a more unique theme but i think even more out there themes would be very fun for top levels. Like celeste where some of the hardest levels themes include "voting in a presidential election", "sucked into a pinball machine" an or "super calm level with no spikes thats still extremely difficult"

[@YHWHsam]

Your thermodynamix take was great i love that song

[@roogtisserie]

1:30 something i dont see many people mention is that basically every level has either a black bg, or black platforms. a huge chunk of tw has neither, so i commend its ballsy-ness. its way easier to create deco while just using black and glow

[@CannonBallistic]

I used to be one of the people who didn't like the tidal wave deco, but my opinion changed when it got released. I bot levels for fun and when I actually played the level the deco was pretty decent. Maybe the high detail of the objects made KZbin's bitrate have a tantrum, as such pixelating the block design making it seem lower quality, but it was a lot better when I played it. I do agree it had terrible optimization tho; use the LDM if you have a low-end device.

[@testchannel8151]

Honestly, Tidal Wave feels more Geometry Dash than other Geometry Dash levels and I don't know why

[@TheLastGame666]

Acheron was pretty good, it fits the top1 with it's decoration and aesthetic, solid balancing. But tidal wave is also good, potentially more fun and unique, it's refreshing to have a top1 like this, the decoration isn't perfect but it has a great charm to it. I guess it depends on which one you like more, I find tidal wave to be better. I really can't pick between the songs, both are phenomenal.

[@youmustspecifyaname.]

FINALLY ANOTHER THERMODYNAMIX LOVER

[@dobi2447]

that song is made by dj nate who made electrodynamix toe and others so that adds extra points 😤😤😤

[@marcstafanov8431]

I already thought im the only one who loves thermodynamix

[@AustynL]

thermodynamix goated fr

[@slothicc]

thermodynamix is literally impossible to hate, probably even deaf people love it

[@Ramp4ge28]

For me, tidal wave is a transition from acheron to apocaliptic trilogy or another top 1

[@slightlyspud6419]

honestly I played tidal wave and I really love doing waves because it flows so good and it’s just especially with the 4 speed it creates a good challenge and with the decoration it’s very enjoyable and Acheron is really fun to play aswell because of its hard timings and also very good song :) (especially the mashup hehe) but I gotta say they are both good to me in both ways so they are both good top 1s

[@solaraloe]

I like both of them acheron looks cool and (as a gd boomer who was around for the 1.9 revolution) I vibe with the deco a lot, although the second half of acheron really falls off deco-wise tbh tidal wave also looks cool and I think the lack of detailed deco in like 3 transition sections is a non-issue, considering the entire other 3 minutes of the level look fine albeit not at the insanely high level of polish that most other recent list levels have in conclusion tidal wave haters are cringe, acheron haters are cringe, and people should just enjoy levels tbh tbh Edit: also I 100% agree, Thermodynamix is highkey the best song in the top 10 and probably one of the best songs in use on a list level

[@Vertix07911]

i feel like 1.9 is more of gd millenial, gd boomers are more like pre 1.7 and back

[@solaraloe]

I started playing this game in 1.7 if that counts I was just also around for 1.9 by proxy of having started earlier

[@phewiss3066]

Tidal Wave automatically has my respect just because it's a beach themed top 1. Every single top 1 is either not themed, or hell themed. Except The Golden. Tidal Wave took a theme that would usually be used in a 4 star and pulled it off in a top 1. Cool as hell.

[@zenosaa1]

zodiac...

[@dabearodactyl]

​@@zenosaa1 zodiac doesn't have a theme

[@benro6564]

Tidal Wave is a bit sloppy but it also has that amateur charm that most demon list levels do not nowadays. It is also a prime candidate for a remake in the future, a trend that is pretty popular

[@omelettej]

I literally don’t get why people think the tidal wave deco is too simple. Like bro have you seen the block designs??? I also like how OniLink decided to simplify a few details in order to lower object count while making sure it isn’t that obvious during gameplay. The song is genuinely pretty good and its finally a non hell themed top one. Acheron is a great level don’t get me wrong, but I think tidal wave is such a breath of fresh air from hell themed top 1s. This is just my personal opinion so please, I literally beg of you to not start a war in the replies. Thank you.

[@ImStephen707]

THERMODYNAMIX IS SUCH A GOOD SONG idk why ppl in the GD community don't appreciate the incorporation of Dubstep more like... THE BEAT DROPS CMON NOW (it indeed goes very hard)

[@kalcalous8097]

I honestly love tidal waves deco

[@themainzel974]

Same here

[@somerandomkid8414]

Bro, I totally agree with you about thermodynamix. W SONG!!! It’s actually my second favorite top 1 song of all time, behind The Golden’s song

[@mixaleshampooing421]

« Tidal wave is more original than Acheron » ah yes the 3m long WAVE based gameplay, revolutionary

[@MrMarcusGD]

Wavix loves when things goes hard indeed

[@TheMelonHeadMan]

I think both levels are very good :) acheron is just overall super clean, and the gameplay looks pretty good even though I can't play it. Tidal waves transitions suck but everything is super detailed, the theme is really cool and unique and the gameplay also looks great

[@DieserJamie]

Zoink has way too much power, i wouldn't be surprised if he would also be hacking Also KZbin is even slower in processing the full quality of the video than robtop releasing 2.2

[@Walliosis]

"I like it when things are hard. uh I m-" Wavix

[@r3birthr3ap3r4]

Let's be honest, the people who dont like tidal wave are the same people that wont like the next top 1.

[@AustynL]

they probably don't like any level

[@dobi2447]

I dont even know how you can “hate” a top 1. I mean none of us can really play top 1s so all thats left is deco and how it flows which i think we can all agree that we dont barf seeing any top 1 decos and well obviously all top 1s seem to flow well so like how exactly are people “hating” top 1s???

[@defixxd]

I hate Tidal wave like top 1 and don't like cuz of bad deco. If Tidal wave was top 10-15 I will ok with that, but top 1? Why? And yes, I love Acheron and Flamewall.

[@jake6542_]

if tidal wave was a hard demon not a single person would be calling the deco good

[@topaztheguy]

@@jake6542_If Tidal Wave was a hard demon nobody would be talking about the deco- In all seriousness, while Tidal Wave’s deco is imperfect, I still enjoy looking at it. Like, the level looks fine

[@rmgexists]

6:21 YEES OMG FINALLY SOMEBODY RECOGNIZES THIS PIECE OF ART. Best DJ-Nate song ever. thats also why i used it in my lvl, thermodynamicheating

[@WhipCantGame]

I was inside Walmart when I heard the news. I broke down crying hysterically, a crowd quickly formed around me trying to make sense of the situation. Luckily a police officer was on the scene and took control of the situation. He finally had asked what was wrong. I looked up at him with tears in my eyes and said. “Wavix said Acheron’s song is better than Tidal Waves.” Before I finish my sentence the officer started breaking down crying as well. He’s now in psych ward from the trauma of what I said. Thank you Wavix.

[@jeremiahc5305]

i love how everyone was begging for a non hell themed top 1, and as soon as we get one everyone starts crying about how bad it looks

[@VOiDED50120]

You should do a video on the Silent Acropolis remake by the Purgatory. It has some of the best looking deco of all time and one of the best decorated top 1 contenders

[@doomotp275]

couldnt agree more with the song choice W

[@KazmaniaProductions]

wavix did you know that there are more frame perfects in the first wave part of tidal wave than in the whole of acheron?

[@shvten]

What I will say is that while I think both levels are great, the second half of it(after it becomes more “sunny”) the decoration falls off for a bit. It just looks, off to me. When it goes to the sunset section though, it looks good(though the background is too static). Both good levels, but Acheron takes it for me.

[@gamelovehustlefamily9865]

I was making a demon level called "Flares" its discontinued though (and I'm a beginner creator so do not have crazy building skills but who cares I've been building for around 2 months) But it did have Thermodynamix as its soundtrack and I also think Thermodynamix is a CRAZY GOOD soundtrack.

[@lamarscrotum9636]

I personally like tidal wave better. I love the song way more than Acherons and the decoration is just really nice to me, the colors are amazing and they go really well together, especially the last section of Tidal wave. I don’t want people tryna tell me different I love tidal wave way more than Acheron, it’s my opinion and if you didn’t wanna hear it, so be it 🤷.

[@nothingnesslol9538]

but i just did so whats the point

[@harcha3562]

Bro really chooses messy failure with bad colours over a nice polished dynamic level😢

[@shogunmaster3191]

​@@harcha3562Куѕ

[@dze-109]

With the amount of non hell top 1 levels coming out we are gonna soon want hell levels again after a long time

[@nebnoobgeometrydash1524]

I do think tidal wave is cool but it would probably be unfun due to its length similarly to zodiac. A lot of people have good things ti say about zodiac but most people dont realize that 90% of victors hate it due to the length and balancing lmao

[@FURIOUSCRUSHER8]

THERMODYNAMIX GOES SO HARD

[@xenoplayzgd980]

I think that onilink should keep this version of Tidal Wave as a LDM and he should work to revamp it.......

[@herobrine8763og]

Thermodynamix is so underrated, it’s nice to see someone else recognize the banger it is

[@blackcar2018]

6:56 What we *really* need is a top 1 that uses a death metal song that would be sick

[@goldenappl6882]

Dude that thing at the end scared me Xd

[@GDMakar51]

I find Acheron to be more War/military themed level than a hell theme. Yes I do agree with Acheron looks like Tartarus, but I just want to say, the first part has the word "grenade" in it. NOT hidden under/on top the level (unlike the three guns) you can see it and regular gameplay. Look up any show case you'll see the word Grenade.

[@dockmcbadguy2320]

Yea that's because grenadeoftacos made the part

[@idk-nc3pg]

i think it is. Personally li like both but tidal wave has a way better themenig and maybe controversial, better deco

[@deleted-something]

Also thermodynamix song really goes hard tbh, but I would like in a different style of level a little more :)

[@sohumchatterjee9]

I personally feel that Tidal Wave is so different from recent top 1s that it's not really a good comparison imho But as always, a nice video to watch

[@Quan7ix]

6:34 agreed

[@caiobrplays]

2023 has been a HUGE year for GD. Edge of Destiny, KOCMOC, Centipede (pls make video about it), Vehemence (still waiting for the video about it its the best top 1 also terraria byass I dont care), MINUSdry (yes its good shut up), Codependence, Silent Acropolis, APT, futurilly Barracuda (gl on the verification wavix), Flamewall (pls make video about it), and in some way the SpaceUK situation, and many more. Tidal Wave is just one more banger. My only problem is that, even do I love it, for me Acheron fits better as a top 1. Im early on this community, and joined basically last December, with Tidal Wave being the first ever top 1 verification that I keep up with. Overall, Tidal Wave is a much better level, even more considering its a solo level (Kyouki better tho), but for me Acheron fits better as a top 1.

[@html-cf3jm]

I am not going to lie a Cleveland circles sequel should use Thermodynamix

[@AustynL]

tampa circles

[@imarandomperson761]

If I gotta be honest, Acheron is just kinda boring, like the first time I saw it it was cool and all but it became so boring to watch after like 3 or 4 times. Its "theming" is just edgy which we've seen a trillion times, I don't personally like Thermodynamix that much I just think it's fine, the gameplay is agonizing according to pretty much everyone who's played it aside from Zoink and Vertop and it being restricted to 1.9 deco does not play in its favor imo, idk why that should be a factor, I mean it could've been better had it used a more modern deco style, the restriction is a choice. Tidal Wave is a solo level and a first project so right off the bat you can't expect something as polished as a megacollab involving experienced creators, but even then Tidal Wave manages to execute the theming it was aiming for really well, it has really good progression and it manages to stay somewhat consistent in decoration throughout 3 entire minutes, the gameplay is very fun according to every playtester, Onilink and Zoink, all of these factors may not be absolute perfection, but considering the fact that it's a first project, Onilink nailed it, and I can't wait to see what his other projects will look like

[@thelofistorm]

6:41 brah for REAL the second I got on Spotify this was on there

[@zismale2505]

Shiawase (VIP) is better in my opnion but the 2 songs are bangers ao i would give points to both of them, so it's 3-5 to Tidal Wave

[@Quitzable]

People forget that firework isn't a hell themed level and was technically top 1 (Because slaughterhouse was hack-verified, making firework the hardest level at the time) and it also had one of the most unique concepts.

[@FRBFStudios]

6:33 i agree thermodynamix my beloved 🤩

[@Ketrab-]

Tidal Wave might deserve a point for being LONGER and HARDER, considering that you said that you like when things are hard .

[@theboringhumannn]

Silent acropolis and flamewall are finished and will be coming real top 1 demon, also ascension to heaven for non hell theme levels. Tidal wave should be quickly ends very soon

[@lool8421]

imo tidal wave seems more enjoyable to play than acheron because at least every attempt you're getting somewhere, meanwhile acheron is just a gauntlet of frame perfects and fixed hitboxes, however idk, might be more annoying when going for 100% because it's just long, but doing runs could really work

[@Baldman736]

I’m glad you got me prepared for an opinion I completely disagree with usually I am not prepared for a different opinion.

[@Mrgameinghi]

Acron is a river that actually Lisa Tartarus river, which are both believe the sun into the pit of hell in Greek mythology

[@TheNico2000]

Instead of song choice as a category, I would have gone for a sync category.

[@endervine3676]

Tidal wave gameplay looks like something I would make honestly

[@giggonszo5399]

Tidal wave just needed the Coral Chorus Lobby Music as the song . . .

[@dar4356]

While I don’t agree on your stance on the song part, I still respect your opinion

[@darkph4nt0m]

Tidal wave is better because it has a unique theme and it isn't boring and hell theme. It is also unique because its xxl

[@iRWQFSFASXCi]

Tidal Wave is ruined by zoink gameplay is horrible deco is unigue but acheron is better layout and deco+its not purely 100% top 1 purpose (its only 96%) So acheron is better

[@Alex-hx7zd]

​@@iRWQFSFASXCiZoink did not do ANYTHING to that level. Stop spreading things that aren't true

[@Ketrab-]

Acheron isnt hell themed. Im not sure what the theme is, but its definitely not hell.

[@iRWQFSFASXCi]

@@Ketrab- acheron is 1.9 Thats first thing Second is nobody knows how many hell themes are there: Red theme True Hell theme Death theme Slh theme Inferno theme + maybe some other

[@AustynL]

​@@iRWQFSFASXCistop lying tidal wave wasn't even supposed to be top 1 until zoink buffed it plus i've actually heard the gameplay is actually pretty fun

[@notCAMD]

2:03 it uses glow and pulse triggers a lot lol

[@AustynL]

1.9 had glow, for example fairydust and windy landscape

[@TheMelonHeadMan]

6:34 this is just objectively correct

[@thelologd9065]

"Whacke" up, walter just posted a video!

[@RNG_FisH]

father wavix u should do a video abt silent acropolis or flamewall

[@bobbythekidd4712]

Bro warns us about his opinion being controversial and then presents the coldest take known to man.

[@Skitts_]

I agree that thermodynamics is one of DJ Nate’s best

[@funnyguy0003]

for song choice i would have given both levels a point.

[@mpgd6107]

Acheron is better in my opinion but i like tidal wave, its solid and while it may not fit the top 1 spot alot, the gameplay is cool and deco is good, but i think its heavily unoptimized for how it looks

[@mubarakaminu9850]

W Wavix upload

[@Skidplayz89]

I agree on the song take for thermodynamix it is a banger song.

[@yigitafsar1611]

Finally! Someone who appreciates Thermodynamix

[@OzymandiasMC]

welllllll tidal wave does have more than 140 60hz frame perfects, so I really wouldn't call it accessible to most people lol

[@ArtemIsABadName]

Epic duel

[@tacostud9976]

im waiting for the flamewall video

[@TJ-hg6op]

Yeah I like tidal wave but I hate a lot of synthesizer voices cuz it reminds me of that one horrible song that was everywhere early 2.1 that appeared in like 2 gauntlet levels. Thermodynamix is underrated and your opinion is objectively correct.

[@MrJanismerhej]

the og 2018 rocket league music cannot be topped.

[@Justanormalgdplayer]

Wait i am actually making a collab named electrodynamix with the song of acheron lol

[@budda7183]

Clubstep VIP is DJ Nate's best work

[@matzekatze7500]

Yes THERMODYNAMIX is such a banger!

[@flukeog2225]

I hope everybody agrees with you on the song choice. Thermodynamix is a certified banger.

[@deep_ak-4728]

tbf i feel a lot of nostalgia from shaiwise from having a rocket league phase tidal wave song still better

[@dobi2447]

RELATABLE

[@AustynL]

i like warm seas but thermodynamix on top fr

[@makkroww6097]

I do agree with you about Thermodynamix being a better song, but imo the non VIP version of Shiawase by Dion Timmer is WAY better. But yes, i do agree Thermodynamix is better than Shiawase VIP

[@s.fflanger8747]

Pls do a flamewall vid, its so good.

[@dobi2447]

and silent acropolis 🤤🤤🤤

[@danm-son]

Well at least we know it’s harder

[@General_Blockz-Ibelieveyouguys]

6:46 I agree you have earned yourself a view😂

[@rubikstyles]

Which is better? The one that isn't red nor black, for sure

[@bulldogkitten9217]

YES thermodynamix is GOATED THANK YOU

[@chikhn]

imo you cant really blame tidal wave for the high object count, its a 3 minute solo level with pretty complex block designs thats also largely in 4x speed

[@badataiming]

i am going to take this opinion piece and treat it like objective reality now