Is Tokido's New Button A GAME CHANGER?! OneFRAME (English Translation)

Recently, Street Fighter legend Tokido introduced his new original button, the OneFRAME, on his KZbin channel. Unfortunately, the video is only in Japanese so I used my moonrune power and translated the most important parts into English for you.
Could this new button change the way we play fighting games on leverless conterollers?!
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[@sodapopinksi667]

I watched his interviews with Justin Wong. His English is decent, and he's starting to upload more vids with English subtitles. He seems like a sharp dude.

[@Chris_F]

Def a very smart guy

[@michaelcarrig627]

Very sharp. He is extremely personable and obviously one of the greatest to ever do it. As sticks get more popular in the US he could definitely break into things.

[@pjac1185]

Yeah.. He's a graduate of the japanese harvard, university of tokyo.

[@sant6182]

Thanks for the translation! I try to decipher the charts in this videos but I feel like I'm only getting half of the info. Would like to see you do more of these!

[@Chris_F]

I’ll try to find other interesting videos to translate

[@ghhdgjjfjjggj]

​@@Chris_Fdo you speak Japanese?!

[@Chris_F]

@ghhdgjjfjjggj yes I do

[@Iantrypsk]

He made a 24mm and 30mm case for the D2FC-F-K Omron mouse switch, pretty cool idea, the switch itself is durable but for gamer use is way lower compared to a 'Cherry MX' style keyboard switch, we replace mouses because of switch failure really often, but the replacement switch is 1 dollar and with basic soldering skills is easy af to replace. The plastic mold and order required will make this button 'expensive' but maintenance after will be cheap, i would want a Silent version because this switch sound is annoying they said is not loud, but i think is compared to Sanwas not Keyboard switches, anything is not loud compared to Sanwas 🤣

[@Chris_F]

I’m really curious about the price

[@Iantrypsk]

@@Chris_F if is exactly how he showed in this video, looks like a Semitsu button with a PCB inside to hold the mouse switch, if the actual run that he will comercialize will be just a moded Semitsu can be cheap he will need to only produce 1 plastic part the top, buy the bottom part from semitsu (china), make the pcb and pay for assemble/package (Japan loves to make expensive package tho). If he does everything from scratch (or his designer partner pretends everything is custom made, happens a lot im in the industry of manufacturing) will be like 10+ bucks per switch, not exactly oh my god i can't afford but a silent qanba switch is 5 a punkworkshop button is 6 :P a aliexpress one is 0,20 cents + the keyboard switch.

[@tokyobassist]

$10 a button because Tokido has his name attached lol. Idk if you've tried Crown 202s but those are even louder than Sanwa. Same "thock" as a Seimitsu but much louder. All of it really depends on your panel and how much it dampens sound too.

[@Jaded.1]

Bro you should make more of these types of videos where you translate/analyze Japanese FGC content 🔥🔥🔥

[@Chris_F]

Planning on it!

[@gabrielrizzo6969]

Now we wait for the many proprietary, open source projects and the aliexpress replicas of those.

[@Chris_F]

Ha! Very true

[@saado99]

Really cool, can't wait until this comes out to try these. I think depending on how it turns out this might become the defacto button people use on their arcade sticks/leverless with those numbers, being able to press and/or move quicker that is an inherent advantage. Or might force other button manufacturers to switch to this mouse switch, either way I really love the innovation that Tokido brings to fighting games, he's always looking ahead for the best way to play it's awesome to see.

[@Chris_F]

More innovation is always a good thing and I’m excited!

[@BrutalTime]

Love the video but was curious if anyone else is getting louder audio in your left headphone than your right?

[@Chris_F]

I’m going to look into that, thanks for the heads up

[@russellbailey5567]

Excellent video!

[@Chris_F]

Glad you liked it!

[@user-et3xn2jm1u]

The release point matters for any time you want to press the same button more than once. With keyboard switches you have to totally un-depress the button, but it looks like with these it deactivates early and you should have an easier time with double-taps and things like that. Honestly that seems like a good innovation, I hope there's a way for keyboard switches to mimic it.

[@BrutalTime]

Check out the wooting keyboard. Pretty much does exactly what you’re asking.

[@GrimmjowJJX]

Yeah or any rapid trigger/hall effect keyboard, they have analog magnetic switches where you can configure the actuation on press or release up to 0.1

[@duxnihilo]

Are they going to make 30mm ones?

[@Chris_F]

Yes

[@Ryan-jl1el]

holy crap !!! i wonder if any what the cons would be, but it looks very intriguing and its Tokido I don't think he would promote something like this and be ass. I want lol

[@Chris_F]

I’m wondering what the cons would be as well

[@tokyobassist]

At this rate, buttons might as well be gamepad buttons lmao. Quiet and fast actuation. Personally I'm in both camps of being hyped for unique and tangible updates to form factor but on the other hand, it's getting ridiculous with all these 20-button controllers and options available when some really only need like 3 options at most. Hot swappable microswitches and effort to make buttons quieter should be the bare minimum with buttons. Having got out of the Korean lever rabbit hole, things could be a bit more standardized or condensed imo. So much modding or mix and matching parts required and it isn't cheap.

[@Chris_F]

I agree that we are going a bit too far on the other side of the spectrum - there are TOO many options now IMO. Back when I started during SSFIV days there were very few options. How things have changed!

[@darkdendan]

I like this type of content. I have no clue what they talk about in the japan FGC

[@Chris_F]

I’m doing this as an experiment, let’s see how it goes!

[@h2_]

Oh wow, 60g. Now I'm interested. I was assuming it would be some featherweight nonsense

[@Chris_F]

60g is def a good choice IMO Anything less could cause accidental inputs with a button this low. Tokido is the man!

[@epicon6]

I like how they need to look like lab workers to seem legit enough to be able to talk about what’s been created 😂 If he was talking about art he would have to wear the mandatory ’Japanese artist scarf’ around his neck 🎉

[@WaynerMachadoO]

Thank you for translating that video!

[@Chris_F]

I’ll think about doing more of these

[@KusanagiMotoko100]

I'm getting these as soon as I can.

[@Chris_F]

Same!

[@eliholland1365]

Really appreciate this video. I had been seeing clips of Tokido looking like he was doing an and i am weary of celebrity products so it was good having someone to break down what exactly it was. I play on my mechanical keyboard but was planning at some point to make/buy a leverless at some point and this buttons will be something fun to try. I have also been revisiting some of your sf6 tech videos since i have been playing more which has been helpful. Keep up all the great work!

[@Chris_F]

Thanks! I think Tokido is someone we can trust, he’s earned that over the years

[@babixillo]

lol i'm building my arcade sticks from scratch and yesterday i thought would be cool if there is button that uses mouse microswitch because it seems just perfect for tactility and fast actuation. only problem is it will suffer from double click like any non optical switch mouses. old american arcade button actually use something like this but way bigger microswitch.

[@Chris_F]

Oh wow that’s interesting, thanks for writing that!

[@woahblow4127]

Havent watched your videos in months what happened to you 😂 bro went from smash player vibes to smash your girl vibes

[@Chris_F]

Uhhh what?

[@Darksid3c3]

nice one i wish you these type contents much more especially from japanese players

[@Chris_F]

More to come!

[@YellowFellow86]

Standing 720's made easy? Can't do that with my T13.

[@Chris_F]

I’m not a gief main but I think it’s still possible on that controller too

[@ZyletaSF4]

my problem with buttion are not how fast i press them, but how fast bution are relased, this main problem of hitboxes doing circles, if you do to fast circle you gona miss df/db or somethimes d with half circles. inputs, I'm more curious how easy it is to hold the button for one frame, in Tekken 8 some characters have 1 frame release inputs like Rejna and probably Hworang

[@momo.ru-kun]

If the travel distance is too short, it would feel like a wall or playing on a MacBook air keyboard and wouldn't give you enough feedback. I prefer full size switches on directional keys, and low profile switches on hit buttons. Also, the mouse micro-switches do break faster than mechanical switches. The internal design of a micro switch has a bar that resets the button, it often flattens out with multiple key presses while a mechanical switch has a leaf that is actuated by a stem that slides when you press. By design MX switches are superior.

[@Chris_F]

I got to try it out at evo Japan and it felt good! Def less movement than a mechanical button but still had some click to it. I’m excited to try

[@barrybeakdriver]

Quite curious to see how this pans out. I saw this on twitter and was really pulled in by the idea of using the mouse switch. Thanks for translating this! Super interesting stuff

[@Chris_F]

Thanks! I’m curious too! I got to try it a little bit at evo japan but I would love to sit down with these for a week or so

[@Jimson-wx8uq]

I have seen these clips of Tokido talking but I had no idea what he's saying so thanks

[@Chris_F]

Thanks! I might do more of these

[@sm7085]

I wonder if it's compatible with haute42

[@Chris_F]

I have no way of knowing but I think it should be

[@Gold_Lightan]

From the back, seems like a standard connector, so most likely it's universal in size and connection