Is Valencia Doomed?

Valencia is in trouble. The historic club in La Liga is now on the brink of much more than relegation, its towering debt has been buoyed by a billionaire owner who appears to have lost interest, or worse, may be milking the club for all it’s worth to stay afloat himself. It’s a nasty situation that is becoming all too common in the modern game.
I hope for the sake of the fans there is a quick resolution, but I’m not too quick to jump on the ‘trash the owner’ boat, the situation is complicated and may be a something out of the ownership groups control. The Peter Lim group might have already jumped on a sinking ship and just kept it from sinking a bit longer.
Much Love,
The Zealand
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[@javimyrvel]

Hey Z! Valencia season ticket holder here, and Big fan of the Channel. Thank you for letting the world know about our current situation, these are sad days for a club that is more than 100 years old. Love from Spain

[@jameswg13]

Is the club shop permanently shut or something. Went to get something the other day and it said it was closed. Was only in port for a day though

[@javimyrvel]

@@jameswg13 It should be open everyday from 11-20h. I don't know if they have different opening hours for easter, though

[@jameswg13]

@@javimyrvel ah might have been it. I'm not back there till near the end of the year and even then on a Sunday which means they will he shut then

[@MarianoGallicchio]

whatever happen, don't let bragarnik enter the club. He's destroying elche now.

[@TyEats2200]

Peter Lims daughter sounds like a piece of shit.

[@thenortherncampaign6474]

I had to give this a thumbs up simply for the consistent Voro interludes. 😂

[@Zpice]

*Guitar chord*

[@Reaper_ginger]

Voro is like that one substitute teacher you’ve had at every grade level

[@JimTheFly]

*guitar chord*

[@Taalsman]

Valencia hired Gary Neville as Manager, the biggest crime of them all.

[@teambringit01]

How sad, I'm in year 6 of my FM22 save as Valencia, Lims out and we finally moved into the new finished ground. I much prefer my fantasy save over this reality.

[@LupusImmortalis]

How long did it take for Lim to leave?

[@teambringit01]

@@LupusImmortalis I think year four

[@michaelburdge2748]

thats a strange coincidence, I'm 10 years into my Valencia save and it was about year 4 that Lim left for me as well! Hope it happens irl soon

[@ericsohn5084]

Still got Kang?

[@teambringit01]

@@ericsohn5084 no, but I don't think he was on the team when I started the save. Still have Gaya, Guedes, Soler and Musah thou

[@pablotamarit6683]

Thanks for talking about the situation of the club I support. During this last 10 years, we have been subjected to constant suffering due to the chaotic decisions that Peter Lim has taken.

[@stephanosmessios6737]

Ever since I went to Valencia 2018, I fell in love with the city and the club, I literally learned everything I could about them, visited the stadium, and adopted them as my Spanish team. So yeah, seeing what's happened to them makes me very upset and angered that Tebas (the utter prick) hasn't stepped in to do something about his pillaging of the club. How can you fire a great coach like Marcelino and basically force Parejo to leave on a free? A bullshit state of affairs for such a great club.

[@Eibarwoman]

The answer is probably that Lim has some dirt that would get rid of Tebas least we'd have seen one of the two if not both ousted.

[@quicocatala5611]

Parejo’s transfer was bullshit but actually Marcelino was ousted because he was taking commissions from some signings and he was warned but he kept doing it so he was fired in the end, still quite a loss though.

[@wackiechan300]

​@@Eibarwoman it's nothing that deep. Tebas is just a corrupt old fart that refuses to go away. He doesn't have a good opinion on anything but always says stuff to stay in the spotlight. Very likely to get another term while he is doing absolutely nothing to improve the league.

[@djdimapasoc7988]

Loved Valencia back in the David Villa, Baraja, Mata, David Silva, Ayala era.

[@roryslaine7896]

Don't forget the likes of Joaquin, Vicente, David Albelda and Marchena too! They had such a tasty squad in some of the Football Managers. The only downside was their budget, so you couldn't improve the team and often got raided by bigger clubs!

[@nicolasrecupero3026]

Cañizares, pellegrino, aurelio, aimar...so many memories...even for an argie

[@Offical_FutCT]

@@nicolasrecupero3026 memories, memories, memories....

[@CharlesOffdensen]

Dani Parejo was a sad story. They made him to Villarreal of all places. Talents like Lee Kang-in were let go, too. It's because of stories like this, that the Bundesliga has the 50+1 rule.

[@calamorta]

Yeah, that's a good reason. I still wish someone could acquire Dortmund to make it truly stand up to Bayern, though 😔

[@marcossenna4612]

It’s still weird seeing Parejo with a Villarreal jersey

[@moralfo0109]

As a long time Valencia fan, what the club've gone through in recent years breaks my heart.

[@ColGesso]

How are they lookin this year?

[@WrcKaapo]

This season start has been pretty good but it wont last long@@ColGesso

[@alexandercody6652]

American who fell in love with this club when they had villa and Silva. No idea situation was this bad. Hoping for the best!

[@augustovargas4882]

Thanks for the video, however I think you missed one of the most important parts of the story, which is the influence of agent Jorge Mendes on the club's downfall. He is Lim's friend and he often shows how much control he has over the transfer policy or even the club's structure, you only have to check transfermarkt to see the amount of players brought in and sold by Mendes and his associates, sometimes even ignoring failed medical tests just to get that millionaire commision. Mendes also gives advice to Lim on how to handle the situation inside the club and it is very likely that he was behind Marcelino and Mateu Alemany's (who is now a hero at Barça) firing due to them not wanting to sign some players they were told to. Now it seems like Lim just wants to destroy the club out of pure resentment, as he decided to end a champions league project losing hundreds of millions of euros and does not want to invest in the club either. Also, former president Anil Murthy was an alcoholic that ridiculised the club in front of other presidents countless times.

[@MystClips]

Valencia before Simeone's arrival they had the 3rd highest point tally of all time in la Liga. Since the 2000s, 2 LaLigas, 2 Champions League finals (1 lost in penalties to Bayern), won the UEFA Cup (Liga+UEFA double), a few Copas del Rey and a regular in European competitions. For a short while Valencia felt like a more attractive option for some players than Barcelona to sign to, having World Class players, but during Mourinho-Guardiola era it felt like they had cemented themself as a valid 3rd place team, as financial issues ramped up, creating a "stagnation" that led to title races being a thing of the past. It kind of reminded me of the Dortmund or Schalke of the Bundesliga, I just hope it doesnt follow through with going down like Schalke did... They had a stadium being built that would have 72k capacity to capitalise on their success and massive fanbase but its been paralised since 2009 half way through the build. Now there is talks of downgrading its design and capacity by like 10-15k and remove the plans for an underground parking lot (which makes the project feel kind of redundant) just to continue the build because obvious the city council has complained about the massive ruins of cement in middle of the beautiful city... An interesting Story is that the Prince of Johor, who basically created the most successful football team in Malaysia and is close to Peter Lim, showed repeated serious intentions of BUYING the club off Lim, watching matches at the stadium and posting about the legacy, history of the club, how beautiful the city is and how he would like to contribute to its success on his Instagram. However, after talks with Lim, the posibility of the takeover seemed to have vanished out of nowhere, either because of the incredibly strict Financial regulations imposed in LaLiga on clubs, making spending very restrictive, specially if these clubs are managing a debt, such as Barcelona or Valencia; or because he was straight up rejected by Lim because he refused to let go of "his asset". I guess thats what the Worst Owners possible for almost 10 years, bad owners prior to Lim, bad dealing with debt plus other financial issues and HORRIBLY intrusive punishing LaLiga financial restrictions by Tebas does to a club that could and should 100% be in Atletico Madrid's position competing alongside them :(

[@rodrygonutifafa]

the best the fans can do now is not buy tickets and merchandise or boycott games to force them to sale the club cause you are definitely getting relegated this season

[@Chengyuan79]

Singaporean here. Maybe just an explanation on how most bosses here behave ... Or maybe not. His daughter's messages showed how they think. "We are the bosses. We do what we want, because we are rich (and you are not)." Literally "why people cannot understand that WE ARE THE OWNERS". They literally think that just because of this, they can do anything they want, and yet when consequences hit, they dodged them with more scapegoats ... And when there are scapegoats, it is never their fault. "The entire world is wrong, I am right." The frightening part about this ironically funny statement is how the local bosses really believe so. So, a few comments here on how Peter Lim would keep the club purely out of spite at this point is true. Deep sigh ... 😮‍💨

[@nicholastricarico2957]

This also clearly shows that they don't understand sports. On a spiritual level, clubs/teams belong to the fans.

[@ricardomartins9070]

Before trying to buy Valencia, he tried to buy Porto. Looks like they dodged a big bullet

[@micas290]

Não consegues comprar clubes portugueses sendo que não sao um todo, terias que comprar a sad e depois ir a eleições e ganhar essas eleições e so depois de mudares os estatutos é que conseguias fundir a sad e o clube num so como ha noutros paises

[@psibrunojusto]

@@micas290 o Valencia é um s.a.d. também

[@micas290]

@@psibrunojusto sim mas é diferente de como funciona em portugal

[@EliasRoy]

Benfica and Sporting fans would've enjoyed that purchase 😜

[@Rakettivuori]

Interesting to note, Peter Lim owns half of Salford City, so he appointed his own minority owner as the manager at Valencia

[@yaboykirby7789]

he's one corrupt muhfugger

[@BigPurp9]

To be fair to him Neville was always touted as one of Fergie’s smartest players and the one he always said would have a good managerial career. I still think he just bit off more than he could chew and if he’d started off taking a low key job in the lower leagues he’d still be a manager now. If Lim had just given Beckham or Scholes the job then I’d say it’s 100% nepotism 😂

[@finding_aether]

Smart people do not nessesarily become good man managers.

[@BigPurp9]

@@finding_aether no but reading the game is a vitally important attribute. I remember Fergie saying that there were times where Neville would spot things the opposition were doing and suggest tweaks even before his assistant coaches had. I’m not saying he would have been the next Pep, just that I don’t think he’s this “worst manager of all time” label he currently has 😂

[@finding_aether]

@@BigPurp9 but its not just about tactics. You need to get the player's respect which I think Neville's personality will be hard to get (as a manager... not as a pundit).. i don't think he is the type that will be able to get players to run thru brick walls for him. This is not a slight on him. I don't doubt that he can be a good scout, analyst or coach. But to be a manager is different. I think T.Henry (who i feel has a similar personality to G.Neville) found that out as he was loved as a coach but not so loved as a manager. Fergie himself admit he is not the best at tactics and often left the training to coaches. But he was one of the all-time greats at man managing and strategizing for Man Utd.

[@lutjemuller9753]

showing the Bremen relegation at the end... That hurt. I still remember when Werder played Valencia in the UCL KO stage. My father should still have a custom matchday hat, one side was the VCF logo, the other SVW logo. Good times, good times....

[@Lucksh007t]

Just give voro the job at this point

[@Xanoriz]

Remember a Valencia team with: Santiago Cañizares, Roberto Ayala, Carlos Marchena, David Albelda, Miguel Ángel Angulo, Vicente, Aimar, David Villa. Such a fun save in the CM/FM earlier era.

[@Willem-dd1fe]

And David Silva, or am I wrong?

[@aodhanjone9690]

As a Singaporean i say he aint really liked here either. Valencia was just used as his backup plan when it was reported Liverpool was Lim only one club he wanted and he did Bid before FSG bought liverpool. He isnt a football fan just a dude looking to make investments.

[@peterlee6148]

Kim lim divorced twice.

[@GVike]

A gambler, basically

[@gheezy1913]

Feel very sorry for Valencia I’m an Everton and we are in the same struggle we will succeed and I love this Voro fella

[@jeziel2001]

Everton will return and fight for high positions, another historic club in England 🔝

[@hanneswurstbrot6902]

i´m sitting here in germany and wondering how many of these foreign clubs in the big leagues actually have barcelona level debts. man i´m glad our clubs are at least "somewhat" required to have a balanced budged.

[@jnca98]

the problem is that Tebas arrived and put the most restrictive policy about this in all Europe. But whats the point of creating a system to prevent losses when you were years and years permiting Bartomeu, Lim, etc spending without limits? There wasnt a problem in 2018 when Barcelona and Valencia were spending a lot, but now you are so restrictive with them. Worse the remedy than the disease

[@hanneswurstbrot6902]

@@jnca98 a first step has to be made. it could have been barca back then or valencia now. the question that i ask myself is: do they want to wait till it comes out that half the league is bankrupt or do they make a press conference now and tell the league. "Listen fellas, there is something called financial fair play, and we implement it. If by 2025 your club does not meet the requirements you´re going to be punished hard. If it´s like the known examples barca, valencia prepare yourself to be relegated. Let it be known that we don´t make examples for big clubs if you don´t meet the requirements you´re out. there´s plenty of clubs in the secunda devision that will take your place gladly so get your finance in order."

[@jnca98]

@@hanneswurstbrot6902 ur talking about the future, but that is happenning now. Tebas did that what you said and now we are in this situation and not just with Barça and Valencia. Madrid fans are complaining low spent despite recent wins. Betis sold Bartra to Turkey bc of his wage.... I mean... BARTRA. Atlético is also struggling... All La Liga is spending less than ever The problem with that point is that u think chairmans care about his team future... Bartomeu knew he wasnt going to be in Barça when all exploded, Valencia is not even 10% of Lim patrimony, etc. Your point is "bread for today, hunger for tomorrow", but they dont care and thats not fair for fans who still Also, I think no one in Europe does this, not Italy, not Germany, not England. Barça is mediatic, but ask an Oviedo fan, for example, this is happenning everywhere in Spain. If this happened in England, Livpool would be also seriously affected by this absurd restrictive fair play who is already not working. And I dont even want to talk about covid and CVC

[@BigPurp9]

@@jnca98 better late than never tbh. Obviously clubs are still businesses and businesses do go under, but clubs the size of Valencia shouldn’t have those issues.

[@jnca98]

@@BigPurp9 better never, that was my point

[@HowellSzn]

Zealand has just made me have another favorite manager VORO

[@matthijs8702]

Peter Lim main reason to buy Valencia was also rumoured to be property development, Thats why he tried to build a new stadium but then it fell through because of commercial rights or not being viable anymore

[@jaelenhounsell]

But the thing was the half-built stadium was already there before he bought us. The real reason he bought us was that we were the biggest club available to buy at the time.

[@ChrisHockman]

That happened to my home club, Central Coast Mariners too

[@apexmobiledontdie]

@@jaelenhounsell yea cos the loser couldn’t buy liverpool. He tried hard to get liverpool

[@Debeul]

I miss the old Valencia what a great squad was that! With the likes of Albelda, Canizares, Baraja, what an awesome team was that. And what an awesome jerseys! I miss those days , same for Deportivo !

[@treacheroustiger5571]

Sad to hear a club who produced such youth talents like David Sliva and Isco are suffering like this 😢

[@JGL98]

Isco came from Malaga

[@ajisaputra-nii6279]

Also Juan Mata

[@treacheroustiger5571]

@@JGL98 He joined Malaga, but came from The Valencia reserves.

[@treacheroustiger5571]

@@ajisaputra-nii6279 how could I forget such a legend!

[@Dr_Diaz]

Jordi Alba and many more

[@calvinlee9252]

as a Singaporean - and someone who had a soft spot for Valenica (supports Newcastle, hence the Rafa link is there) its really sad to see Peter Lim destroying this club.. honestly he isnt highly regarded here in SG.. but his PR game is very "good"

[@chrisgoblin4857]

Rafa

[@anon-zk6iz]

Howay the lads

[@JiggyMiggytv]

The Daughters attitude says A LOT.

[@t.c.4321]

Voro is a legend.

[@cogo1021]

hey zealand, i'm a young guy from Valencia who has 16 years old. I love my Valencia and I love your channel too. Also, I have the season pass al,ost 12 years. This singapore man is gonna destroy our club, I go on every riot and every video or montage that pepople do about the situation of the club calms me down, and it helps in a big part for giving visibilsation to the club situation. Thanks!!!!!!!!

[@naville82]

Valencia getting relegated would be shocking! Never seen them get relegated in 33 years ive watched La Liga. Its literally Spains 4th biggest club historically 1. Real Madrid 2. Barcelona 3. Atletico Madrid They were a consistent top 4 to top 6 team for multiple decades and competed for the title more than a dozen times. Has literally the 4th biggest fan base in Spain after the big 3. This team should be competing for top 4 every season with Sevilla generally. What a shame and literally a wasted opportunity for such a big club. Hopefully they get new owners who care and can turn it around and make it again what it once was a competing side in La Liga against the big 3 and a threat on the European stage in CL & EL like it use to be. It has the history the fan base to be able to retain this stature again.

[@GIBBO4182]

Things have never been right since Neville was manager! 😂

[@silabhowmik6015]

Neville got the chance because of his relationship with the owner. He is also a Salford City owner along with Valencia.

[@GIBBO4182]

@@silabhowmik6015 just a joke…

[@silabhowmik6015]

Sorry mate. I am frustrated with what's happening to our club right now and I got carried away. Once again Sorry

[@BiffTheBanana]

I love these informative real life football videos

[@Smonserratm]

The thing is, not only Parejo and Coquelin left for free, they joined the rival club Vila-real and went on to win the Europa League for them.

[@lcfcbeliever04]

So sad to see Valencia at this situation, my favourite spanish team

[@adamdavies790]

I know how it feels for Valencia fans with me being a Sunderland fan with our debt hope yous get your ownership sorted out like we did with a promising future and many young players and a great owner❤❤

[@RR-ut3xl]

always admired Valencia from back in the day when they had the likes of mendieta and aimar tearing it up for them and their imposing stadium, such a shame

[@perrocomunista5751]

as someone from valencia, and a valencia supporter, I just want to cry😭😭😭😭😭

[@matttias3]

Non Valencia fan but as a football fan in general I love videos like this. Perfect while playing away on fm23.

[@USC9210]

Oh My God, the longer this video progressed, the more horrific the facts and state of a venerable club made clear. Much sympathy all you Valencia fans commenting here and those in Spain. Courage!

[@norbertsobon5621]

Thanks for my new save idea, Z and Valencia Fan! I'll get it sorted don't worry

[@5tuartGuy]

Deportivo, Malaga & Valencia well on the way down, what a mess Spain is in

[@bundesautobahn7]

So, Marcelino spoke out and got fired after winning a trophy. I was about to compare that to 1998, when Jupp Heynckes won the UCL and still got fired by Real Madrid after only a season.

[@CesarBarca]

There is only one solution: Loans, loans, gotta get loans🎶

[@jaelenhounsell]

Loans are what is sending us down currently

[@ync_07cas11]

As a long life supporter since I was a very small lad, it pains me to see my club suffer this much 😢

[@SeranaTheStudent]

Voro..... *Guitar Riff*

[@TheRadPlayer]

If he doesn't have the financial muscle to own the football team, AND he hasn't visited for 4 years, why not just sell?

[@Chengyuan79]

Singaporean bosses have MASSIVE egos. Losing is a loss of "face", in Singaporean terms. His daughter's statements told us everything we need to know about how they are like already. In short - If I am right, I am right. If I am wrong, I am still RIGHT~! 😅 Some of the folks here commenting that dear Peter might be keeping the club purely out of spite. You may have no idea how close to the truth you might be. DISCLAIMER - Singaporean here.

[@aboodkram259]

he want 300mil€ in team that in relegation zone...he's crazy I swear

[@abolacadernos7164]

The blood is on the hands of Peter Lim & Jorge Mendes

[@RevolutioZ]

He actually invested in Valencia with loans, both money and players(look it up) to make it a bit worse. Salvo the current president at the time said that the only other bid that was serious other than the "Russian Maffia"(quote) and bids like that, was Wanda who is a serious player that has invested in Atletico Madrid and owns like 30% shares there I believe. Palm oil was actually something new to me, he might need to use some in that face because his skin looks like he had a meeting with Pinhead in Hellraiser or something. Also a tip for the daughter and probably next Director of Football. He refused to congratulate Marcelino and the rest of the squad when winning CdR which, money-wise, doesn't mean anything but for a supporter it meant everything after 10 years or so. So he did congratulate him(I doubt it) when qualifying for CL, but refused to do the same to the squad and coach when winning the cup. Then Marcelino never asked, or Alemany, for big signings just players he worked with in the past - not Mendes puppies and complete third wheels. Talk about striking luck like winning the lottery with that Palm-oil investment almost like Bitcoin back in the day. Zero understanding about Football, fincances - originally the son of a fisherman and he should have stuck to fish, palm-oil and at the best polishing shoes. Edit: Let me add what an impressive explanation of "what happened", you nailed it. And love the **TUKKITUUUUUUUU** "Voro"!

[@kwolfdan3976]

Deportivo LaCoruna relegation broke my hart..it is my favourite club from Spain by far..Valencia is second..poor management, shady purchase by cardboard billionaires takes the joy of watching your favourite team..win or loose at least if the club have a well managed portfolio and money they could be saved or saved themselves from relegation..i hope in my life time to see Super Depor back in La Liga..

[@jannoottenburghs5121]

LOVE the Beerschot kit

[@EyeOfTheLensPhotography]

Making Zoro my assistant after this, I'll be in good hands if I'm fired

[@Zpice]

*Guitar chord*

[@bananaempijama]

Another club destroyed with the help of Jorge Mendes. As a Portuguese, I despise him and I hope he ends up in jail one day. And for those who praise him, should really investigate for what he truly represents.

[@astom89]

Valencia even let Kang-in Lee go, the Valencian most prominent youth at the time, just for free who's now playing in Mallorca RCD. Mallorca is now in mid-table, avoiding relegation. Valencia's dumb management, dumb transfer deals, dumb attitude toward fans, would lead the club no where but relegation

[@jaelenhounsell]

Lim terminated Lee's contract because he didn't like him

[@ram-to4en]

​​@@jaelenhounsell well he didnt terminate his contract, but rather he didnt renew it Sorry for my english :/

[@jaelenhounsell]

@@ram-to4en they actually did terminate his contract.

[@ram-to4en]

@@jaelenhounsell i dont think so. He finished his contract and they wouldnt renew it

[@kieronparr3403]

Peter Lim, best friend of the class of '92

[@robertogimenez8590]

Hey Z! Valencia fan here. Thank you for this video

[@unscarium]

as a valencia fan this breaks my heart

[@stevenrussellhaime6626]

Peter Lim has put Valencia in the bin

[@MAnnnooo1]

That's sad. I'm brazilian and Valencia is my favorite club in Europe.

[@harry69007]

All I'm saying is this is the main fault of Javier Tebas. La Liga's president, as rather than helping a club in crisis such as Valencia, he's targeting another club in financial ruin Barcelona, not for the good of La Liga, but because he's a Real Madrid fan. And we wonder why La Liga is not the best right now, blame him.

[@Eibarwoman]

I feel like Tebas is kept in power by certain other clubs further down the pyramid in the Segunda Division where his policies weaken La Liga teams to where a just promoted side can catapult themselves well up the table. See Girona this season or Rayo Vallecano last season.

[@harry69007]

@@Eibarwoman I agree!! He only wants to see Real Madrid and promoted clubs do well whilst screwing over clubs. The state of La Liga is thanks to him. He needs to go, but due to those clubs lower down he won't.

[@Eibarwoman]

@@harry69007 There's another team that plays heavily into Tebas' interests, Athletic Bilbao due to their recruitment policy, stadium capacity, multiple language broadcasts (Basque), and relative popularity. The two big things he wants is Real Madrid to win and Athletic Bilbao being in La Liga (given the media money for broadcasting in both Spanish and Basque as Basque language broadcasts really only have a market for about 5 teams in the top 2 Spanish leagues). Edit: The Bilbao part might explain half of the "team destruction" policies from FFP in Spain as Bilbao can't recruit their way out of this problem without Man City levels of money.

[@jaelenhounsell]

its not the main fault of Tebas what?! Lim is 1000% at fault for us being in this situation. Tebas's rules sure have made things extremely hard but we were already downsloping long before Tebas. He has had next to nothing to do with our collapse. It's Lim being generally horrendous in the market and keeping a major share of profits from player sales as the reason for why we are here.

[@ram-to4en]

​@@jaelenhounsell i'm with you. It's obvious that Tebas is a horrendous character, but the main reason for our downfall is Lim. Many other teams are doing well both financially and on the pitch, even with Tebas, so I dont think Tebas is the main problem

[@K3NT97]

Complete shadow of the former club, they have had some insanely good players over the years, Vicente, David Villa, David Silva, Kluivert and way more

[@gezblair]

Top bit of sports journalism. Fair, balanced and with footnotes. And you don’t get cool Voro graphics on BBC Sport

[@alanrivas2950]

I hope not, not a Valencia fan but I hope they can stay in the top flight of Spanish futbol!

[@Offical_FutCT]

WE DID ITT!! AMUNT

[@natsudama4604]

My beloved valencia may go down, but i will go down with them 😊

[@Samuel-no2mq]

I didn't click on this video the other day assuming it was a crypto advert. Then I noticed Zealand underneath and instantly watched.

[@Marouane0]

I've been talking about this for over 5 years and finally someone noticed

[@GuyJames]

it's the Camp 'Now' - I live in Catalonia so that's definitely correct

[@michaelfarrow5817]

You know it's bad when even Voro can't turn things around.

[@eiha6614]

🎸🎸🎸

[@sixbillionpeople]

On behalf of Singapore, I would like to apologise to all Valencia CF fans for having to put up with this shitshow of an owner. It's sad enough that our national team and domestic league are laughably bad, and then to have this guy's name and reputation associated with our little country on the global stage... 😭

[@Chengyuan79]

Sigh ... hello, fellow Singaporean. Local bosses are like that, and we all know that. But ... dragging through Valencia like this is like another level. Local football is ... political, sadly. And we simply don't have a sports culture. I dare say we will never get better without a change in political scene. Cheers. 👍

[@andy-tm5re]

@@Chengyuan79 Real talk. Can’t believe FAS is run by people who don’t even have a football background.

[@Chengyuan79]

@andy ermm, they do know their thingy. Political changes like the Arab Spring and all that began from football matches ... that is why the head of the sport is always in white. And also why Fandi Ahmad can never be the head coach of the national team. He is just too popular. (I don't know why they fear his popularity though. Fandi is nowhere political. Sigh)

[@ram-to4en]

We dont need apologies from Singapore, we just need apologies from Lim. We respect Singapore and have nothing against the country. We just have against Lim

[@FPLKEL]

Lads I think I know the solution. Bring in Voro *guitar riff*

[@Midtable1881]

Hi Z. The solution to the problems at Valencia I think can be found ironically on this channel in your Toulouse moneyball video. Imagine if they adopt that method towards recruiting?

[@GVike]

Toulouse is far from a Valencia and I say so as a Toulouse sympathizer.

[@javigomez2520]

Thanks for the video 🥺

[@damien5971]

This is why La Liga has a wage cap rule nowadays. It's to stop clubs from going bankrupt.

[@captainkeller2792]

I like the voro joke and what a legend this guy is. I do have kind of a history with valencia, as a kid i was a bayern fan of course i remember the cl final from 2001. Since that game, i respected valencia as a hard working fighter club, because that was what they were doing, and it is sad that all is going down hill. This club is an important part of football history and I hope it will go upwards some day again.

[@StingerNeilD]

Z I'm loving this direction man

[@jonpeley]

Valencia's supporters have always been too demanding. I remember them booing the team during the Emery years after finishing 4th in the table every season. They genuinely thought they were contenders for the title. But nowadays after the disaster of the Lim ownership I think it's the first time that they are right with their protests. I don't know if they'll be able to avoid the relegation but it could potentially be the death of the club.

[@falagarius]

Peter Lim is also part of the Salford team

[@michaelfarrow5817]

On another point, I think there are serious questions that have to be asked about Nou Mestalla. Firstly, they poured this concrete superstructure 15 years ago. What condition is it in and is it safe to continue? Secondly, why was it built in the style it was? This reinforced concrete structure was old-fashioned 15 years ago, now it's positively ancient. Most a built with steel frames and lightweight materials wherever possible. Thirdly, how much would it cost to finish this stadium? Might it be better to raze what they have and build a more modern structure?

[@MasterUpload2010]

Awewome videos lately Z

[@gezblair]

Sad. Valencia was my go to team on Sensi World of Soccer (ask your grandparents kids)

[@mystikkrap]

3rd biggest club in Spain. Multiple Champions League finalists. La Liga titles won less than 20 years ago! It's just ridiculous how badly this has turned out. Surely there's an investor out there that can try and rescue this club?

[@joels1469]

Great video Zealand. Would love to see you do more videos on La Liga

[@grilledtortilla]

Seems like Real Madrid are the only ones doing well financially in Spain

[@djs8024]

well they are backed by the spanish royal family/government

[@hanli5416]

As far as I remember even Real Madrid would be instantly bankrupt if they were ever forced to actually pay off their debts. It’s just that a lot of debtors don’t really dare to touch the real big name clubs.

[@dusanterzin8139]

From back-to-back CL finals, winning UEFA Cup, Primera and Copa Del Rey to this shit... So depressing.

[@trednax_7789]

IS THAT ANOTHER BELGIAN KIT??? I LOVE YOU BALD Z, now please buy an OH Leuven kit (or two!) and wear it.

[@mike188129]

Deportivo was also a Mendes-club signing all his client at a high cost there. Monaco and St. Petersburg were also Mendes-Clubs until they both nearly got relegated. Lim does not run the club it is Jorge Mendes who influences him tbh.

[@dman9152]

Rafeal benitez valencia team was brilliant, hope they get back to those days again.

[@sungwailee6203]

Really sad to hear, imagine a club with over 100 years of rich history just on this downwards spiral because businessmen owners can’t deal with the way of football. The sport is definitely being ruined by rich guys who just want some more fame by owning something they dont know how to take care of.

[@unfilteredopinionated]

Amazing feed bro👏

[@adrianalanrossiterrenart5423]

Voro for the 4286th time: ah shit, here we go again...

[@SanFranFan30]

I pray Yunus Musah can make a big move to somewhere in France or Germany.

[@JesseShortss]

He’s too good for that team alongside Guillamon and Gaya

[@croissantpower]

That ‘American’ can drop down to the second tier

[@jaelenhounsell]

@@JesseShortss He actually isn't. Yunus Musah is actually one of the worst performing players at the club this season alongside Guillamon. Yunus Musah is almost comically one-dimensional as a player, only being able to progress the ball well. He is less than average going forward and he is actually terrible defensively. The only reason why he does well for the USMNT is because Musah is getting carried in midfield by both Tyler and Weston McKennie. He doesn't have to worry about covering because typically Tyler or Weston(depending on who is available at the time) can cover that for him and he doesn't need to worry about being an offensive threat because traditionally he has Weston(who kinda just does any role needed pretty well for the USMNT) or Gio that can be the offensive threat. If Yunus doesn't have a ball winner in a midfield three with him, he doesn't play well. He is also just extremely prone to dribbling at opponents only to lose the ball. Definitely overrated because of good WC performances. The man has fully stagnated and has been pretty much the same player for the past two years with little signs of improvement in either offense or defense and at this point it can't be put on bad managers anymore. He isn't actually good for his club and hasn't ever really been good for us. He doesn't deserve to be at a team fighting for titles and isn't good enough to make that step up from Valencia.

[@ram-to4en]

​@@JesseShortss Musah and Guillamon are two of the worst-performing players this season. However, I see potential in Musah, I think with the right system, he can be a pretty good player

[@BiPolar417]

This will be a very good football manager save next season, if they still exist that is.

[@Peqqy]

I wonder how many managers are still getting paid by Valencia given that they change manager every few months or so.

[@LordWay]

Good luck Valencia hope you get an owner who can clear the debts for you

[@SrSaraviaMusic]

If Javier Tebas approves, it's doomed.Think that man as the Spanish Darth Sidious

[@cathalssupermegahappyfunti223]

Loving the celtic top in the background. 🍀

[@prich943]

I went to a match once and I love the club it’s so sad what’s happened to them

[@marcelodasilva942]

Lim was a front for Jorge Mendes (The football agent) to run the club and utilize it in a carrousel to increase the value of his assets. The club was doomed from the beggining.

[@SAFFRONINFERNO]

Sad to hear about Valencia Used to watch and support them

[@davorz]

Peter Lim is the last nail in Valencia's coffin, but their problems started some years before. Yeah, the had 4-5 amazing years from 99 to 2004, but then they thought they would be fighting with FCB and RM forever, and they started to spend way more they could afford. To live way beyond their possibilities. Mix that with the greed of all business men that were earning lots of money with construction and that bought the club thinking of taking a big cut from new stadium build and you have the massive debt of more than 500M € that Valencia had when Peter bought them. So yeah, they were already in big troubles before Peter Lim. Something similar with Deportivo la Coruña. From 2000 to 2005 had such great teams but now they are on 3rd division and quite broke.