Is Valve ruining Counter-Strike? Exposing Conflicts of Interest - The Four Horsemen S3E9 ft messioso

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[@shaise]

horse semen ? no thanks

[@DrummPlaysGames]

The Richard-Duncan chemistry makes this series among the best shows for esports alone but add in the importance of the conversations they have and they have to be #1 ❤❤

[@Zevrael]

Gotta give props to that sponsor segue by Thorin. Just one of the best.

[@toxichazmat5785]

Richard is such an important addition to these episodes.

[@moze_-]

@wintc Same. Literally the reason I'm here. I like monte but I got nothing in the brain for league.

[@evolvedHE]

@@moze_-yeah I don’t follow league either but Monte is great. It’s good that does the film review series with thorin & Rl because they make a great trio

[@moze_-]

@@evolvedHE Absolutely. Love the Spit Roast series they just started for Four Play.

[@TYLERLOVESBMX1]

Thorin insinuating that elige still has equity in team liquid then it being confirmed a second later is kinda wild to think about. Makes sense why elige is still on coL, dudes getying money on both ends

[@phwn]

and he co-owns refrag

[@Tulkor1]

The Mando ad read was amazing

[@mckinleyostvig7135]

Thorin the undisputed king of sponsor plugs

[@Francisco-dl1nb]

THAT PROFILE PIC! Respect, that game was incredible

[@mckinleyostvig7135]

@@Francisco-dl1nb missing Blacklight Retribution every day 😭

[@NaZtRdAmUs]

Duncan with that ad transition lol.

[@kkplx]

Thanks for running this, always a pleasure.

[@misterkefir]

Always love to watch these over cake and coffee, sometimes pizza and a beer. The way you guys expose these frauds and roast these dummies is somehow very relaxing. Cheers!

[@zachschaffer3580]

Bless you all and everything you are doing for the ecosystem and scene. You are appreciated!

[@stardustmarshtomp3116]

The Mando ad read by Thorin was legendary, but I'm not sure if it tops some of the FreezePipe reads he's done.

[@overtone55]

1:17:00 looking forward to ESL announcing ESL New York and then clarifying 3 months before that it is in the Marriot Hotel ballroom in Buffalo, NY

[@B_Tannen]

I like that there’s space in the calendar for smaller tournaments to run. Seems like it’ll make things more interesting and provide greater opportunity for different teams and players to be noticed.

[@ViGeeMan]

The Mando ad read made me buy it, keep up the great work y'all

[@tcufrogsfan45]

I wonder how a BCS/NCAA style ranking could work to solve some of the concerns. I’m thinking 3 separate rankings which are weighted and merged to give an overall ranking. Taking a media/AP ranking from sources like Richard’s old Source ranking, coaches poll voted on by a committee of team coaches, or just a committee of analysts/talent/coaches etc. then the current ELO style system. This way you get a bunch of different viewpoints, teams can still farm ELO but it won’t be as big a factor if they don’t impress the press /committee. There were a ton of problems with the BCS and new CFP ranking systems, and I’m not an expert in how they work anyways. But it feels like a good alternative to purely relying on Valve.

[@varunreddy2106]

One of, if not the most important esports show.

[@SalmonDaddy42]

When the producer turned up Thorins volume ten minutes in, I was sure he was about to drop the spicy take.

[@sprintstothebathroomdaily2429]

your comment on regulations is true. The only companies with enough capital to meet regulatory standards are already established and they create a barrier to entry for innovators. this is why the bulk of new companies arent in physical real world areas (utilities, energy, manufacturing etc) its all software and tech

[@skillzpunk]

Richard, as always making me learn new vocabulary…

[@atahannd.9937]

2:40:00 Hire spunj and his job title can be "official valve shill." It would be funny af.

[@deyoviC]

As soon as Spunj opens his mouth I gag. The dude has nothing but ego and ass licking skill. Sad that we didn't get Launders and Scrawny or Harry and Hugo casting the IEM Cologne 2024. Machine is just pure class, should go without saying.

[@ColtonMelton]

Bro legendary ad read from Thorin lmao

[@MitsuoRLCoach]

God damn I love me some The Four Horsemen

[@moma026able]

Goated sposnor plug

[@onecon7745]

THORIN TRY NOT TO INTERRUPT EVERYONE CHALLENGE(IMPOSSIBLE) jokes aside I love it

[@lantern678]

Why doesn’t valve just replicate what tennis does with 250, 500, 750 and 1000 point level events and the majors are worth 2000 points. It works beautifully in tennis idk why they don’t just use that.

[@HerbaceousM8]

1:43:21 you know what might be nice? seeing the academy teams playing real games as stand ins for the tournaments that the main team cant make

[@RagnarWarrock]

Great watch

[@MrCleonwarrior]

The humming of the Ring theme 🤣

[@Ilovepie985]

Thanks for the content

[@heavyflamerheresy2581]

As a Dane, this was a funny one 😂

[@agreen182]

Someone tell Richard it’s FOUR horsemen.

[@FailMachineInc]

I love mando

[@samgriffith8086]

Amazing

[@loveriderog355]

Vegan-free deodorant! Sold!

[@Cheezperson]

Nice!

[@7SlicesOfPizza]

1 min club!

[@HeLLraiSa911]

👍

[@laurentiumocacoca175]

Richard has so many good points, but the russian woman thing, idk if it is true or not. He should look into his own garden at UK imprisoning people for 3 years for tweets and social media posts.

[@laurentiumocacoca175]

Lets not pretend only Russia are the bad guys. The West is going the same path.

[@zerooneonetwothree1872]

Fokeen euwl, if RL could stop expressing his shallow and ignorant political views, i would be able to watch this video. Every time start enjoying his content, he manages to sneak in some m1dweet perspective on the foreign governments that was inspired by some article written in English by people from the west.