Is Wax The Reason Why Skateboarders Hate Rollerbladers? Aluminum Frame Test Aggressive Inline Skates

[@sway_onthetrail]

I had my first experience really skating with a rollerblader a couple weekends ago. We were the only two in the park so we just seshed together. I pulled up after and they were hitting the rail, thought I’d hop on it and I just shot out. Asked if it was waxed up, they said yes and kind of explained everything to me, I just said cool and approached obstacles a little slower. We had a rad time. I don’t really get the divide if I’m honest. Me and the blader I was riding with were hyping each other up, pushing each other, and stoked for each other.

[@mikeobedoza]

Hell yeah! We need this narrative to be out in the media more. I don’t see enough of this. This is great!

[@marsbase3729]

dude, I agree. I get so sick of "the us vs them" crap, with this, politics or anything. just because we have differences doesn't mean we can't find common ground. 👍😎👍

[@mikeobedoza]

100%@@marsbase3729

[@rachardjohnson]

skateboards now use as much wax as we do.. well the real ones do lol.. the babies just cryy about it cause they will never be good enough to use it

[@mikeobedoza]

haha cry babies!

[@NOISlights]

It’s always been that way the kids that were not good couldn’t handle the slide. Nose slides on actual street spot and parks we waxed the hell out of them.

[@mikeobedoza]

@@NOISlights real ones know

[@zICkstep]

Preach

[@CoolCoolYams]

You see so many skateboarder kids these days just standing at the edge of the bowl holding their skateboard, not skating.

[@there_is_no_switch]

Thanks for reaching outside our community, we need a lot more of that. There's a bigger problem than waxing or not waxing surfaces, and that's not cleaning surfaces before waxing. If a surface has been waxed a lot, it builds up a thick layer of black dried on wax that doesn't slide well. That causes people to add more wax to get it to slide, which creates more wax build up which slows it down even more. Repeat over and over. I think the build up is less problematic for metal trucks than plastic soul plates. I carry a plastic / metal scraper so I can clean up gunked up surfaces before putting more wax on. That's often enough to make the surface grind better.

[@mikeobedoza]

Ha I never take the time to actually clean it. I’m part of the problem and just put more wax on it hoping i can grind it away. 😅

[@lonerblader85]

Yeah I always bring a metal scouring pad in my bag.

[@lonerblader85]

Top tip: annoy skateboarders even more by waxing manny pads and turn them into cess slide pads 😀

[@LIBERATION21]

Haha love it! Will use that 😅

[@DistrictWitch]

hahaha yesss

[@mikeobedoza]

ha ya'll out for war

[@bandy-sk5889]

That would be fun on a skateboard 😅

[@DistrictWitch]

The owner of a skatepark we used to go to a few years ago let us wax the bowl as it really needed it to be skated on, even though we made a point of cleaning it off, laboriously, with sand-paper after every sesh (horrible park full of whiny wood pushers lol, called Flo in Nottingham, England). Anyway some skateboarder complained and now it's a skatepark for skateboarders only lol. Nevermind. When I'm rich I'll make a skatepark and let everyone in EXCEPT skateboardererers (wow this sounds angry, sorry wood pushers)

[@mikeobedoza]

sorry, not sorry 😆

[@kevindaugard3244]

"Skate with them instead of just skating next to them." 💯

[@mikeobedoza]

Ha big epiphany.

[@marcfreshart]

Skateboarders typically only grind/slide like maybe 2ft, whereas in-line grinds are meant to be as long as possible. So yeah they don’t need much wax at all. I usually kinda read the room and see who’s using what before I wax it. And having razors makes it easy to slide with only a quick layer of wax.

[@mikeobedoza]

going the distance is the best feeling

[@247LilJoker]

Nice video Mike 🤘I grew up skating with Skateboarders and I never really waxed anything that wasn't a concrete ledge. I've never been a massive fan of wax at the skate parks. The trouble is to many bladers turn up to skateparks and expect to slide super far straight off and not actually warm up to the conditions. I'm not against wax BUT the amount of times i've been at a Park having a session in the bowl or on the mini having not waxed it, and still grinding the length of the coping then some other bladers turn up and before they even try the coping wax it A LOT and it becomes just crazy fast. For me its always been about good speed and a good technique then add a bit of wax on top of it.

[@mikeobedoza]

ha i like that "warm up to the conditions". that's amazing that you grew up with skateboarders. another cat and dog anomaly. let's keep breaking down the barriers!

[@mr-iz8cx]

Yeah, it should at least be tested

[@theAIex2]

I think is just about skatepark etiquette, i hate skateboarders because of how they ride the park as mentioned by your guests. But the most annoying part is how they miss a trick, the board flies out and for some reason they will pick it up in slow motion, as if they were the only ones in the park...

[@mikeobedoza]

true though. it's like what are your intentions?! are you out here to kill us or are you trying to actually land tricks.

[@chrishartleyjr.5523]

At the end of the day , its a public park you should assume everything is waxed. And what dose it matter? Skateboards grind the last 4 inches of a rail/ledge anyways......

[@mikeobedoza]

ha seriously. but, eyah i agree. test and adjust!

[@DirtComplex]

50/50 grind on a skateboard is like rolling your topsides. Ofcourse you're going to slide longer. 😂 On a more serious note, skate board trucks are rounded so there is minimal contact with the grind surface. In contrast the whole side of a rollerblade frame (about 10" long) PLUS the soul plate is contacting the grind surface. A lot more friction needs to be overcome on soul based grinds.

[@mikeobedoza]

oh dude that makes so much more sense.

[@zwenkwiel816]

Why not just put a plate on the bottom of the skates as well?

[@mikeobedoza]

Never thought of that. I’d have to look into that

[@rickyrichreacts9667]

As a inline skater idk why I’m so scared to even try grinding on anything 😢😢

[@mikeobedoza]

"with great risk comes great rewards"

[@Mystninja]

I'm a skateboarder. And I like wax. I like everything to be butter. TBH I use alot of bar soap. For extra butteryness

[@mikeobedoza]

ha dope we can skate the same obstacles!

[@stevechrysanthou1703]

I've seen good skateboarders. They always me to wax it properly so they can grind on it. The ones who hate too much wax is because they cant grind. All they want to do is jump on it and stall or jump on it and leave the skateboard behind them. Yeh i like to not wax shit up too if im learning a new grind and I want to stall but seriously keep ya business to yaself if you cant grind at all. Like find something else to stall 🤙

[@mikeobedoza]

Haha I’ve had so many similar experiences

[@tionik06]

I do both blading and skating. A good skateboarder can skate anything a blader waxes and thankfully because they have their tricks and balance down. Beginner skaters use sticky surfaces as a crutch if it is outside of a bowl. Those big ass bs tailslides the pros are doing are NOT on unwaxed surfaces. Those are waxed to ice.

[@mikeobedoza]

right!

[@marsbase3729]

I don't hate Inline skaters, I respect their skill. as far as too much wax,a skater should know the obstacles condition before attempting the trick and adjust their approach according to slickness

[@mikeobedoza]

yes dude. as a chef i always have to test my food. test and adjust.

[@crimnvL]

wax ur blades not the obstacle, that what skaters do now they wax their own trucks and board. If your trying to flip in flip out too much wax is dangerous. youre talking about transition which is different.

[@mikeobedoza]

all good.. im just asking these people not to be jerks about it.

[@diplenski]

is it possible to wax your skates instead of the obstacle?

[@JoseLizarraga]

That doesn’t work in my opinion. Rubs off right away

[@mikeobedoza]

ha i mean i've tried that but, i end up waxing the obstacle like that and then we're back to square one.

[@jadrollervlog]

Angled Souls slide pretty well without wax. But even then I refuse to ride metal frames and I shamelessly wax everything. 😂

[@uu3903]

This is something that should be brought up with Ground Control. They make plastic sliders for their HD80 frames, but I don't think they make them for 60 and 72. Maybe if enough folks write to them... I've been looking into a DIY solution using UHMW strips that can be had for fairly cheap. Only problem is figuring out a way to attach them. Wish I had a drill press then it would be trivial to tap a few counter sunk screw holes to attach the strips.

[@mikeobedoza]

ha i'd be interested to see how those work.

[@marsbase3729]

dude, sounds like a great idea, don't let your lack of drill press deter you. still possible with just drill 👍😎👍

[@sepsev55]

Don’t blame the wax if you’re wack 🤷

[@mikeobedoza]

HAHA you're awesome.

[@apexpredator_jku]

I think the animosity between bladers & boarders differs from gen to gen & region to region. I'm from the early generation of bladers from NYC. From my observation, they took up more issue with us jacking their culture which I get but regardless of what your vessel is, it's a vagabond type lifestyle which nobody can claim as their own. But bladers still felt we needed our own identity which is what spawned that ridiculous raver type look with stove pipe Jnco jeans & big ass wallet chains. In NYC, skateboarders already had this preconceived notion of what a fruitbooter was...as if we were all androgynous fairies rocking spandex biker shorts which led them to believe that we were a bunch of suckers. Little did they know, for the most part, it was just a bunch of street kids & thugs on blades that would f**k you up. Bare in mind, sk8boarders weren't in their cool kid trendy phase yet. They were still considered outcasts so they had a chip on their shoulders coming into it. It's been like 3 decades now & we're still here. I think we've earned our spot at the table & I'd like to think that they've come to acknowledge that.

[@DistrictWitch]

hahaha yess, this is what it was like in the UK - people thought us bladers were soft until they fkd around and found out, mainly a bunch of nasty street kids lol. Whereas most boarders at that time were middle class poser kids. I can't lie it was fun to see the retribution, felt karmic ; )

[@mikeobedoza]

yeah in carson we had there was a great divide with the skateboarders and bladers and the generation before me had to fight for the respect. i think we're at the table now though with something to say and that's why i can make videos like this. but, those dudes that are so vocal about the skatepark being waxed and blame it on bladers need to get cancelled and by both skateboarders and bladers. those dudes need to get a new life.

[@user-ys9ke5cj1n]

The thing is wax is ok who doesn’t like to bust a 25 foot grind but it’s CANDLE wax that is the problem because it melts at a lower temperature than skate wax or gulf wax and then gets on the wheels and then you’re just turning and boom slip out. So please use real skate wax or gulf n not candles. You said the thing about concussion well I got one at mariposa n it was candle wax on the wheels was having fun doing long grinds thinking Dammn this is sick and then after a while I just did a kick turn and boom wheel slipped out. again please stay away from candle wax because the melting factor is the problem. Cheers

[@cjpeltier2723]

I’ve had skateboarders start bitching me out for waxing one obstacle at parks before. It’s happened multiple times to me now and every time it was a skater who honestly just sucked. So in my experience it’s always been the skateboarders who can’t even stay on the rail or coping longer than 2 ft anyways. They suck at skating and are professional complainers. Idc I wax whatever I want And would love to see them try something. Also it’s a grind your SUPPOSED to slide so be ready! Nyjah Huston recently came out and said if your skating it, it should be waxed to the max cuz it’s a grind so be ready to slide! And I completely agree. More wax the better for both bladers and skaters!

[@mikeobedoza]

ha we need to start a term for those karen skateboarders. p.s. i'd love to hear where nyjah was saying that skateboarders need more wax. we need to make a meme of that.

[@cjpeltier2723]

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[@deadlydee7239]

This validates my experience as an inline skater. The REAL skaters will come right up and want to skate with me. The professional complainers is as excellent way to describe people like this.

[@LiL_Miss_Fiasco]

I always have wax but almost never have to wax anything at the park because skateboarders will often wax stuff themselves, especially the tech skaters or those who are going for distance. It's usually all good but I've been in situations before where someone else pulls up to the park and immediately goes full speed at an obstacle without checking it out first, wipes out, then blows up on me simply because of what's on my feet.

[@mikeobedoza]

ha yeah just going in all fast without even checking. shame on them! not shame on us. it's incredible how people don't want to take responsibility for their own faults.

[@meangenes3295]

Good skateboarders don’t care.

[@mikeobedoza]

ha yeah those people are my faves!

[@gfromshankside]

Oh, wow! I skated and skateboarded as a kid in the 80s and 90s, never waxed or saw anybody wax anything. We just skated on whatever. I'm getting back into inline skating now, and I'm wondering, can't all this just be done without wax? The fights you talked about made rollerbladers sound like dicks! Y'all were dead wrong!

[@switchrollinglife9980]

2:43 Michael Prado was in (coma) ; 3:32 you sould try " FLAT ANTONY POTTIER " 😋👊 . Old school skateboarders don't like WAX , news school like ....

[@L3monwedges]

Prolly because I'm not good enough to grind very far yet, but 9 times out of 10 the skateboarders end up asking to use my wax before I ever feel it's needed

[@mikeobedoza]

ha you're already skating with those dudes. that's already a good sign.

[@mikeobedoza]

haha well if they weren't always in the way? 😆

[@Zahvalan5173]

As a skateboarder myself, it does suck skating an over waxed ledge. We almost tell a blader has been at the park haha. Are you able to wax the bottom of your blades? i usually just wax my trucks or board instead of the obstacle.

[@rampageriseden]

Over wax everything.

[@mikeobedoza]

wax the world!

[@that_which_is_not]

Michael Prado was nearly killed because of it. Skateboarding is 💀

[@mikeobedoza]

Ha yeah that was wack. But I can’t have that one individual ruin the whole culture.

[@that_which_is_not]

@@mikeobedoza You’re right that one individual does not represent the culture, his actions however are indicative of the entitlement and perceived ownership most Skateboarders feel about skateparks. In the UK they build new Skateparks and sometimes call them ‘Skateboard parks’. As much as skateboarding is currently attempting a PR plan to make itself seem all modern in the mainstream, the behaviour you’ve spoke about here is the same old behaviour I see at skateparks in the UK and have done for over 20+ years. Skateboarding and its culture doesn’t get a pass yet, it has lots more work to do. Enjoyed the deep dive, look forward to more of your content!

[@mikeobedoza]

​@@that_which_is_not - yo i feel the same way. the best thing right now is that there are steps being taken to correct this (them x weekend collab) but, the scar is still there for most of us (bladers) and i can't let 20+ years of harassment go away in one edit. but, what i've learned here is that i need to start talking to them cause if they're not going to do it and if they're continuously getting fed all of that blader hate media then we've got to work in the masses and let them know, that media stuff is garbage and hopefully we can get on an united front about it and eliminate those barriers. ha i'll get off of my soapbox but, i definitely understand what you're saying and it's so wack!

[@bandy-sk5889]

I ride both and don't wax anything unless it's street, it's all personal preference

[@babyzfpv1234]

I think the better you get at skateboarding, the more you realize wax actually helps you. Lol If ledges, rails, things of that nature were not treated with wax, and then set it by friction, or by heat from the sun, none of the spots would work. I never hated any rollerbladers. I always actually admired you guys.

[@mikeobedoza]

love it! I admire rollerbladers too. 😆. nah but i'm a fan of skateboarders also. respect to you man! thanks for stopping by.

[@Codisrocks]

Wax on transition helps no one. Don't have enough friction to turn anymore. Cool. Random flat spots full of wax, lol. Y''all need to settle down.

[@diplenski]

maybe it's the beating up little kids part more than the waxing 😭

[@mikeobedoza]

Haha I hope not!

[@CanadianPresident]

I have th Kizer element two frames and I have to agree that the dividers their trucks are metal and our frames are usually made out of plastic as well. I was a skateboarder for years skateboard invert Park all that before I got on blades.

[@mikeobedoza]

It’s crazy cause we all doing the same thing too

[@diplenski]

i mostly skateboarded and still do. i had a set of k2 skates late '90s i got secondhand to mess around with, it was fun but i prefer boards. i don't really beef with anybody. and i don't own the park so i just test out the waters when i get there and see what's waxed and how much. waxing concrete ledges is no problem.

[@mikeobedoza]

Nice dude. It’s so much easier when you can say you’ve tried both. 🤘🏽

[@pappythe1st]

as a skate i dont mind the wax on ledges and rails but pleas don't wax the quart pipes

[@mikeobedoza]

Just as long as we can respect each other we all good

[@HenrisKas]

hear me out, I was in South of Portugal - Algarve region, small city why just had a brand new skatepark - I didn't saw any bladers in a month of skating. Mostly kids, very good etiquette - no drinking, smoking, drugs.. very clean, and periodically I saw old folks doing classes for kids. So in my humble opinion it's new school / new generation of skaters and the main point - all the ledges was waxed soooo good, not just a bit, they was waxed deep in, I was sliding all around like on a butter. So maybe, just maybe it's not the rule anymore?

[@mikeobedoza]

ha it's funny how much the new generation can teach the old ones

[@gui.djz1]

At first I think it is not fair to call skateboader the person who hit Prado s head. He is a criminal. Second, is possible to boards to sessh with wax they just have to be aware. Without wax it is not possible to sessh

[@mikeobedoza]

yes exactly!

[@Horstveratu]

just wax your frames if it's not your home park, on street spots it's always fair game tho idc

[@mikeobedoza]

ha true. i'm just asking for a little bit of respect.

[@Roland-v4x]

No it's more than wax,most of the ones I've come across either got it from the generations before or are still carrying it on like racism and it's sad to hate and you don't even know why. I mean ppl still use the rollerblading=gay jokes all these years later

[@mikeobedoza]

It’s crazy right?! But we’re learning. Empathy. That’s how we get over it. Or idk that’s what I learned in this video.

[@Roland-v4x]

@@mikeobedoza I think we both sides are definitely passed hate days, never experienced any until I lived in so cal there's a few out there that might talk shit..I don't think ive ever seen it addressed much and you hit on some points that would help them understand why we wax.sticking at the park sucks haha

[@ZForce151]

its because theyre only twice as cool as heelies

[@mikeobedoza]

idk i've seen some cool heelies in my time... 😆

[@MisyeDiVre]

Skateboarders use wax too.

[@mikeobedoza]

the good ones.

[@212Neek]

Learn to use wax

[@mikeobedoza]

Ha we learning!

[@anton972yehuda]

Fony bolony, wax or die

[@mikeobedoza]

👍🏽

[@zackmarkham4240]

Sadly, for most bladers, those aluminum frames are out of reach because of price and they will continue to wax stuff for years to come due to that.

[@mikeobedoza]

aluminum or not wax is still necessary. From what I experienced

[@zackmarkham4240]

@@mikeobedozaTrue, but from my knowledge, less with aluminum. I've never heard boarders say anything about wax, just the AMOUNT of wax bladers use.

[@mikeobedoza]

@@zackmarkham4240 ha yeah regardless of hardware though... we just got to learn more about who we skate with and find some middle ground.

[@zackmarkham4240]

@@mikeobedoza Totally

[@ParkourGrip]

I skate these frames (flat, with plastic H block) and i find that i want to wax stuff more then other skaters with plastic frames. Especially because of the difference in friction of plastic soul-plate and metal frame you want to wax stuff as much as possible for the difference to be as small as possible. I did not scrape of the paint like this but i have been skating this frame for like 7 months now. Also i think this frame might be a bit too high for me to learn topsides with but we will see.

[@kevincollins8620]

Personally... I get scared of too much wax. I always check first. Thankfully I've never died hitting a hella waxed up jawn.😂

[@mikeobedoza]

ha for sure got to test the waters

[@CoolCoolYams]

You get a lot of oldhead skateboarders who treat wax like an adult who fell off a pair of skates as a kid and vowed to never try again.

[@mikeobedoza]

ha isn't this the name of the game? fall. get back up. try again. triumph!

[@audreyskateinfinite9068]

I need to make a vlog. I get the whole skatepark angle iron wax thing but it seems no one waxes the concrete ledges that we still have.

[@mikeobedoza]

let's vlog together! those concrete ledges are wax absorbers. hella committment

[@lordbrian309]

The skateboarders that I know borrow my wax and use it more than I do.

[@mikeobedoza]

Ha those are the good ones right? 😄

[@playbackphantasy]

All wheeled sports unite!!! Love this!!

[@mikeobedoza]

Love it!

[@vincentmartin1002]

Hell yeah fucking Gavin!!!

[@mikeobedoza]

He’s the man!

[@anthonyocallaghan7785]

Fuck em, wax everything, thats shit should be buttery.

[@mikeobedoza]

ha i'm just trying to skate at the skatepark without any hostility

[@Codisrocks]

Why? It does nothing for anyone to have a waxy ramp other than making it impossible to carve.

[@thatmountain]

Seems like you're reaching for content here, this topic is only coming back up in light of the Prado video.

[@mikeobedoza]

not my intention at all. hope you watch the video and grow with me. I just wanted to share what i learned. 😄

[@F4LL3NN3LL4F]

Most skateparks have signs that say no rollerblading 🤷🏼‍♂️ it just is what it is

[@mikeobedoza]

i'm not sure where you're from but, that's like schools saying no skating. we all know how that worked out right? unless you don't know street skating...

[@SCBCshorts]

Mixed bunch around my area. Some are cool some lose their mind. I agree with @rachardjohnson it's a skill thing no one will admit.

[@mikeobedoza]

the real ones know