Is Your RAM Slowing You Down? (Memory Ranks)

[@mini-_]

The bottleneck in my system is still the human operating it.

[@bradfedick]

My mom and dad have the same bottle neck

[@MaskOfCinder]

My bottleneck used to be money. Now it's scalpers.

[@bluedogtransportwa]

@@MaskOfCinder surprisingly seen a heap of 30 series cards in stock, regularly, in Australia. 3060tis are nearly available in all brands

[@bradfedick]

@@bluedogtransportwa probably because shipping out of Australia is stupid expensive and not worth it

[@ahmadmohamad6384]

@@MaskOfCinder nope your bottleneck is still money.

[@noahluppe]

I'm in the fortunate position where I can say with absolute certainty: No, my RAM isn't slowing me down, everything else is equally slow.

[@RandomTheories]

lucky you! you found balance in your life 🙂

[@MirekFe]

@@RandomTheories Just like you can find balance with this segway to our sponsor....

[@Talia.777]

🤣🤣🤣

[@Talia.777]

@@MirekFe 😆😆😆

[@YashasviGoel]

Had me in the first half!

[@d3fct]

Cpu -z will tell you how many ranks on the memory speed tab, incase you're wondering.

[@_evildoer]

HWINFO is also good

[@hunterhussain809]

Thanks 👍

[@bgezal]

On the SPD tab. On the memory tab you'll see if it's single or dual channel.

[@mohd5rose]

Not to be confuse with ranks and dimms.

[@muaries12]

Can confirm. Also my 16gb kit crucial (2x8gb) is single rank

[@EkelundDK]

That guy is my favourite dude on LTT. He both seems like he doesn’t give a crap, but also cares a lot about giving you the information.

[@WhenDoesTheVideoActuallyStart]

Riley is hot, but he's not Anthony, so he loses "Best LTT guy" by default. Maybe secondb-best.

[@dakoderii4221]

Riley could have made a good 80's detective but he drank too much soy milk. 😬 jk. He's a good addition to the team.

[@raininafrica4620]

linus = big-time narcissist everyone else at LMG = geniuenly skilled people that aren't also incredibly annoying to listen to

[@Kosty88]

He's like my second favourite Riley ever after Riley Ried

[@alcrian8627]

He's also hot

[@vikingwalker0-1]

Ram in 2010: Ah who gives a crap about it. Just buy it. Ram in 2021:

[@PaulHojda]

Ah yes, that sweet, sweet DDR2 800

[@sergestar4536]

@@PaulHojda right ! How many ? "ALL OF Them ". Imagine me how I felt building my first pc and that's coming from an old laptop with 3 gig ram 😂 my 16 gig kit 😁 now I run laptop 32 gig 🙄😁😁

[@rattlehead999]

it's been this way since DDR ram.

[@ericsun3036]

Teacher: Why didn't you turn in the assignment on time? Me: It wasn't me, it was the RAM's Fault.

[@edumeli02]

was that a TLB joke

[@sweytank]

More rank !

[@Priyajit_Ghosh]

Your rank will decrease

[@Blackpapalink]

That actually happened to me. Doing a CS assignment with 4 core and 4 threads and 8GB of RAM was not a good idea. Especially in 2018.

[@acuaro]

smh, why do people buy ram, just download it off the internet

[@grey.mithrandir]

Such an original joke 😂

[@akhighpin012]

Yeah Sure. I don't want to deal with ads.

[@askkutay]

Ingenius!

[@fbiagentmiyakohoshino8223]

punching kids for ram is a better way

[@Doman9191]

@@grey.mithrandir nah

[@bluesillybeard]

me who bought single-rank ram literally yesterday:

[@linkincr17]

F

[@RoloC4]

Single is usually more stable/better for overclocking. I wouldn't worry about it. A couple years ago everyone was saying SR > DR.

[@3ddan148]

im trying to understand why my patriot viper 2x8 kit runs way better at 3200 than my corsair lpx 2x16 at the same speed. the corsair kit is dual rank and the patriot viper kit is single rank samsung b-die and it absolutly shits all over the lpx kit for latency and read/write bandwidth again at the same freq. this seams literally opposite of what this video suggests. cpu this was tested with is a r5 3600 oc'd to 4.5ghz all core. also the samsung b-die can handle more voltage for daily (up to 1.5 vdram) which means i can push it waaayyyy farther than the lpx ram. can easily run 3600 cl14.

[@yourhommiemyhommie7548]

You could return it because dual rank ram does make a difference but it might be fine because what they didn't meantion is if you're planning on ram overclocking most likely you will be able to get better speed and timings than with a dual rank kit.

[@yourhommiemyhommie7548]

You could return it because dual rank ram does make a difference but it might be fine because what they didn't meantion is if you're planning on ram overclocking most likely you will be able to get better speed and timings than with a dual rank kit.

[@ckirelawich]

Great video! I’d consider myself a tech savvy guy, been building systems for 2 decades, and have never heard of ranked ram. Today, this video was the example of the old saying “you learn something new every day.”

[@alertsaucer4104]

I only had one rank but now I downloaded the second rank from internet

[@realgoose]

This video helped to confuse RAM even more. Some topics need a longer, more in-depth, video than what TQ can offer.

[@Njubish]

Are you saying they should create a channel called techlongie?

[@realgoose]

Tell me you wouldn’t watch every video on that channel! Gamers Nexus but with LTT style.

[@auturgicflosculator2183]

@@realgoose I question whether an LMG channel will ever have that much focus on accurate reporting vs splashy fun! wow! clickbait!

[@hellscream4354]

Lmao I got an add with Riley in it and I thought I was watching the actual video

[@theigpugamer]

I just got the same pulseway add

[@theigpugamer]

I just got the same pulseway add

[@avonire]

I just got the same pulseway add

[@maruftim]

I just got the same pulseway add

[@DeerJerky]

I just got the same pulseway add

[@itchylol742]

Instructions unclear, bought prebuilt

[@enriquepadilla2542]

Was looking at a prebuilt at bestbuy yesterday. 1650, ryzen 3, 2 DIMM motherboard, 1 filled. 8gb ram. $1200

[@MuhammedGemci]

RIP

[@y1tap1exp76]

@@MuhammedGemci rip

[@zayd1111]

@@enriquepadilla2542 🧐 that's hella overpriced

[@pochita816]

Enrique Padilla hell no that’s a bad deal

[@askkutay]

I upgraded my ram to 16 from 8 on my 1660ti laptop. I wasnt expecting such a huge improvement. I had 10 to 25 more fps and most importantly stable fps on games i have been playing.

[@tasnimulsarwar9189]

@Tiky Reol more than having 8 gigs.

[@markhughes3387]

Open CPU-Z and click on the SPD tab, on the right it shows the rank value of your ram.

[@LifeWulf]

Huh, something I've actually never heard of before! Thanks for the explanation Riley!

[@giovannidropshipping]

short answer: no long answer: no

[@proCaylak]

then cut out the midd... -excuse me- medium man!

[@giovannidropshipping]

@@proCaylak did you like my edit?

[@proCaylak]

@@giovannidropshipping can't say I do :(

[@giovannidropshipping]

@@proCaylak want me to put it how it was

[@proCaylak]

@@giovannidropshipping I'd appreciate that. but at the end, it's your choice ^^

[@beepboop6179]

honestly props to not having any mistakes while talking and having the editors write text where appropriate, mistakes can make learning new or complicated stuff harder

[@mishkamcivor409]

On linux: sudo dmidecode --type 17 and look for rank

[@Lambda_Ovine]

Imagine having to download CPU-Z to get relevant information about your system, lol

[@UOHCUNY]

@@Lambda_Ovine imagine remembering commands

[@ananttiwari1337]

@@Lambda_Ovine Imagine making fun of people because of the OS they use

[@jeandelafuente1]

"Rank: unknown" lol

[@Deegan_Prashanth]

Thanks!

[@BryanBakerXBrav]

CPU-Z also shows the ranking of each stick under the SPD section if you don't feel like opening the case. I also have 4 sticks of identical SKU, but one has Hynix chips and the other has SpekTek, and yet one set is Single rank whereas the other is Dual.

[@ikbintom]

I learned what RAM rank numbers are today.

[@_Tzebra_]

Been using 64GB DDR3 RAM for almost 4 years now, never used even 10GB of that memory but it was a gift so don't call me a money waster

[@Hellspooned2]

Gift waster ;)

[@hardlyworgen71]

That there is a lifetime supply of RAM (for the life of the motherboard anyway).

[@lorenzo8755]

Upload it to the internet so someone can download your ram

[@mr.mirror1213]

@@lorenzo8755 😂😂😂

[@gerardonavarro3400]

@@Hellspooned2 lmao 64GB DDR3

[@AdaDenali]

Here’s an idea for a teckquickie episode: the different ways of texting from your computer when you have an iPhone . Dell Mobile Connect, Blue Bubbles (my favorite, a life changer tbh), AirMessage, WeMessage?, Beeper, SMServer...

[@PrajjalakChattopadhyay]

But can a dual bank RAM solve Legendre differential equation... I mean, run crisis?

[@trabadix]

excelente pregunta

[@annurissimo1082]

Considering I have 2GB, I suppose YES. YES IT DOES.

[@tonybrown72]

I am struggling getting 3600MHz memory to run above 2600MHz... and it seems that the slower speed is its Stock Speed. So glad I paid the extra!

[@Macusercom]

"What speed you're on..." Tbh I never know. I buy them from my localer dealer.

[@ericsun3036]

Finally, a Techquicke video that makes you want to buy a ford. Fs for Chevy and RAM.

[@Callme-DS]

It's midnight here in India the perfect time to think what is slowing me down

[@tomthejus5587]

12:30

[@Prevarant]

It is probably being born in India

[@arundinaceous_123]

@@Prevarant 😂 I just wanted to know, what's wrong with being born in India? A lot of my friends here too complain about that xD

[@Xetaguru]

Muth

[@eagle7015]

Hi from india...

[@KawazoeMasahiro]

Another important point is that high-rank modules are usually harder to overclock than single rank ones.

[@rmjn1324]

I’d like to see test results from the additional latency effects from running 4 x dual rank modules.

[@richardgraham379]

and best settings

[@Longbowgun]

You end up trying to run 512 bits on a 265 bit bus...

[@Ace0nPoint]

I understand the editorialized titles for the other channels, but for techquickie where people arguably come to the videos for a specific answer to a very specific question, I'm not really sold editorialized titles are the best solution for THIS particular channel. Even if they're you know, 'fine' for the other ones.

[@sudipchatterjee]

Just got this video in my feeds when I was looking for it!! Thanks, Riley! It clears many things to me.

[@ofnotandi]

I seem to remember back in the day, you would want fewer ranks, because you could quickly run into problems with the maximum number of ranks supported.

[@GothicPhantomZero]

To be honest...this was almost scary! I've been having problems with my computer being slow and just plain out freezing on me because I believe there isn't enough ram to run 2 of anything anymore. So now I've been stuck trying to figuring out if I need more ram or just use what I have.

[@whytho1690]

Depending on how old it is (or just faulty), it could also be a sign of the hard drive dying. The transfer of memory from RAM to HDD is very slow to begin with, but it slows down even farther when the HDD is worn down. If the S.M.A.R.T. status is anything but "healthy", you need to get it replaced ASAP.

[@GothicPhantomZero]

@@whytho1690 My computer is 10yrs+. I bought it from Walmart and it isn't anything fancy but it worked for what I needed it to do. But ever since I updated the hard drive, because the first one died, and updated to Windows 10...it's having a hard time catching up. How would I know if the S.M.A.R.T. status is unhealthy? I have CrystalDiskInfo, I check it every so often, and right now it shows everything is good.

[@Zeratul187]

3:14 "Whatever you do on your pc" ....... I play command and conquer games from early 2000's on my pc Riley!!!!!

[@caseymurray7722]

Sweet spot for ryzen now seems to be 3600 cl16 with 4*8 single ranked. Also if you're going with just 2 sicks of 16g don't go with crucial as they are single ranked. However, those are ideal for 64g if you really need that much.

[@Focus_Fearless]

What about corsair vengeance LPX

[@123456svp]

Yes this is true because the cpu can access more banks but it will depends on how the game was coded.. if you own the new amd ryzen I strongly suggest that you should have a 4X8gb setup running at 3600mhz. This is the best setup and a lot of games will give more FPS than a generic or popular 2x8gb setup that most people buy..

[@comfortable_east]

What about 2x16 dual rank setup?

[@AdamB5000]

I JUST bought parts for a new build. So I'm watching this video, nervously, waiting to see how I did.

[@AdamB5000]

Whew. I went with 4x8Gb. Nailed it.

[@VGDocs]

It might be worth noting that buildzoid states that higher rank configurations can't clock as well as lower rank ones. He does recommend prioritizing rank above frequency for AM4 due to the memory controller but all other configs the inverse.

[@alexanderlee5180]

Wow, you learn something new everyday! Thanks guys!

[@sunnydecree8410]

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[@TeixJT]

I wasn't the only one waiting for Riley to make a sound effect when he said PIA as an internet kill-switch am I?

[@marcpabel4768]

It is easy: You need enough CPU cores and power to access and process thee ram your using. Exampel‘s are Dual Core Quad for two 2GB RAM sticks and Quad Core for four RAM sticks up to 32 GB combined. For evrithing else you need more cores like Rizen. Or at least a 8core CPU from Intel. With Hyperthreading you will have more options and lower Latency on processing as an backup to the normal cores but it can as well leed to interferences depending on the system and Software.

[@XalphYT]

Since when is rank a thing? I have literally never heard this term before and I am older than Linus.

[@8bitchiptune420]

Since the first World War

[@mr.profezzional6935]

Since Roman Times

[@kelvinthenedy]

Finally. Hopefully stores near me also write about this on their items' description

[@serenity5892]

One of my ram sticks just died and it was a 48h pain to find the culprit, then I finally open KZbin on my freshly fixed PC to see this title as first recommendation...

[@ChillinLikeBobDyllan]

I was not ready for this level of technical information

[@Rouxenator]

Depends on memory controller and board. B350 with 2400G + Dual Rank Trident RGB 3600 = 2400Mhz RAM. Same RAM on B550 with 4750G = 3600Mhz, 1T command rate, CL17.... newer APU and board goes a long way.

[@Wraithdagger]

TQ: "Is your RAM slowing you down?" Me: Yes. These Crucial DDR4-5100 sticks aren't fast enough. I need DDR5-6900.

[@WhenDoesTheVideoActuallyStart]

Nice

[@OLBastholm]

Nice

[@spaceshipper2for71]

Hey so glad I found your video! Was wondering why this "number of ranks" parameter is almost never talked about in RAM upgrade how-to-videos & articles... Yet when I went online shopping for new RAM, I stumbled on this 1Rx8 vs 2Rx8 parameter, even for a same model of RAM sticks (HyperX FURY 3200 has the two types). Now, do you happen to know if it is ok to mix the two types (1Rx8 + 2Rx8)? My HP Omen 30L already has a HyperX FURY 3200 2Rx8, but last week I ordered a HyperX FURY 3200 1Rx8 to add beside it, will it work? Would have been better if it was a 2Rx8 I guess? Thanks in advance!

[@igronDC]

they will both perform as 1Rx8, 1Rx8 is going to slow down 2Rx8.

[@reglsan]

​@@igronDC is it possible for old motherboard with 1rx8 RAM being replaced by 2rx8?

[@abid_hihi]

"But I think you do want to know about our sponsor-" No

[@ruller8901]

For some reason looking at that sticker on the ram stick made me feel like I went and bought one and that I was admiring it like I usually do when I get new tech.

[@Dimrain13]

Thanks for the quickie Riley!

[@Tジェイク]

Thanks! I was searching for this recently.

[@ghoulbuster1]

Now if only someone could explain if it's worth it to change the interleaving size? Do you need a bigger size with more sticks? more ranks? Can you use the minimum of 256 bytes? Can't find any info on this.

[@InvinsableNoob]

Very informative 👏 But make a video explaining the boost the ram gets from the RGB

[@personnathan1729]

Colors are sick in this episode. Good color grading

[@benjaminreynolds3659]

I think the 'random' in RAM actually slows everything down, since it isn't very orderly to access memory at random. In middle school math put the butter on the bread July 4 fireworks 1997 now turn left on 5th street.

[@MutaharFarooq]

Currently, everyone should try to wait for DDR5 since people on DDR4 will soon lose their upgrade paths and DDR5 will probably help ryzen's ccx infinity fabric bus by a lot, making ryzen cpus with multiple ccxs a reality for gaming.

[@ABPRINZ]

Imagine getting Riley in an ad before the video. Even beyond the video the segway haunts me.

[@ianault8599]

I have four RAM sticks and four slots. Will running at dual rank vs single rank matter for me? The XMP profile uses single rank by default so that's what I'm using now.

[@hunter1586]

Finally a bigger KZbinr is covering memory ranks

[@OutOfNameIdeas2]

32gb is what you need today. I noticed a huge difference from 16gb amd i don't really have any background stuff.

[@pointed.sphere]

Really? I have 20GB on my laptop and I don't think I've ever used more than about 15, and I have a shit ton of background stuff.

[@gunk7712]

If your multitasking.

[@ahadmrauf]

TechQuickie idea: how do fast wireless chargers work, and why don't most phones support >10-15W charging?

[@EvilTaco]

Well this would've been useful to know before building my new pc with a 5800x. At least I managed to oc my 3600MHz ram to 400Hz, so that's something

[@ebsolas]

On my pc what I get up to is mostly watching LTT videos

[@thomas1699]

I have 2 Acer Laptops: my Predator Helios 300 (i-7) has 2, 16 GB so-dimms of Dual Rank, DDR 4-3200 in Dual Channel mode. My Aspire 5, (i-5) has 2, unequal DDR4-3200 so-dimms, 4 GB and 16 GB, both Single Rank, but operating in "partial" Dual Channel mode. (Not the correct technical term.)

[@HerbertS-ot7oz]

Is that RAM box thing in the background (or something similar) available to buy anywhere?

[@whytho1690]

You might be able to find it by looking up "powered ram display box" or something like that

[@CUBEoneVX]

so what you're saying is, we'll soon hear about a new 128bit memory speed/lane? so that all 4 ram dims can be read at the same time?

[@Lord_of_Dread]

Riley: Is your RAM slowing you down? Me on DDR3: Yes

[@xpforevergaming8609]

I don't know what you use your pc for, but for me 16GB DDR3 has been enough. If anything, I'd upgrade to 32gb.

[@tjhebblethwaite]

Love the SDRAM in the preview.

[@SteS]

To check your rank paste this to PowerShell ISE and press F5: _(Get-WmiObject -Class "Win32_PhysicalMemory" -namespace "root\CIMV2" -computerName ([Environment]::MachineName)).Attributes_

[@idhalaralbaiesh5429]

Another excellent video, already knew this stuff but still found it very interesting and informative. Thanks!

[@enternameder]

The more i watch these LTT clips the more i begin to understand how little i understand about computers..

[@Kyzerii]

yes it is. my bought my brother a mid range gaming pc with a single stick of 8gb ram. gave me about 90fps on cs. switched to 16gb (2x8) ram and i went up to 175. same with other games too. in fortnite i went from 80 to 130 and in valorant went from 75 to 130

[@michaeltreadway1817]

Love the video, lots of great information! One question, will mixing dual and single rank ram on a dual channel cpu create any issues?

[@michaeltreadway1817]

I have 2 x 16g r1 and was thinking about getting 2 x 16g r2 and adding it to my dual channel system

[@deeehwa]

He's my favorite in this series. 2nd is Anthony, and then Linus.

[@CoolJosh3k]

The amount of times someone shares their system specs, but only shares the amount of RAM and not the speed.

[@clemclemm]

two bad that you don't talk about 4 rank, because i don't find that much info about it on internet, and i don't understand how it work... can you do a video about that ? even if it's just for server's users. (the not professionnal users)

[@TheFourthWinchester]

My man here helping us to get homework done more quickly.

[@scottdeller]

NICE HAIRCUT DUDE, RIELEY REALLY NICE HAIRCUT

[@Mike__B]

What's slowing down my system... not being able to nab one of those 30 series cards when they came out.. then "tariffs" happened and everything is disgustingly overpriced and now I don't want the cards.

[@ToastxIntros]

Getting a pulseway ad with Linus before this feels right

[@honahwikeepa2115]

I have 2 dual rank Samsung's only because I got them for $10 brand new on FB Market Place. I replaced my single rank modules. I might get some heat spreaders. Thanks bro.

[@thomas1699]

I just got a 16 GB so-dimm of DDR4-3200 (Crucial) that has 4 big modules on both sides of the dimm. I thought it must be Dual Rank. But CPU-Z tells me it is Single Rank. Looks can be deceiving. The label doesn't say. . . As you may have noticed, I already installed it in my Aspire 5, Core i-5. Suddenly, I have lots of "available RAM" in Windows Task Manager.

[@PalaWootje]

When I see Riley, I click play.

[@JordNL]

Kingston RAM will tell you by the letters S (Single), D (Dual) or Q (Quad) in the part number. See www.kingston.com/netherlands/de/memory/memory-part-number-decoder for more information on where in the part number that is.

[@metsanemosehlane7891]

I had a dual rank DDR2 RAM back in the days, I thought it was twice slow because of the chips on both sides, and somehow thought it was "value RAM for those who couldn't afford a proper RAM", young naïve me

[@domobluu]

Just as I'm in the market for a new pair (whole pc actually), thanks.

[@realazee]

I have a 3600CL18-22-22-42 1.35V dual rank Hynix DJR A2 PCB 2x 16GB ram kit on a Ryzen 9 5900X and B550 Tomahawk that I’ve managed to tighten to 3600CL16-19-19-38 at 1.45V

[@qupeter1224]

for me it is sad that my main rig using ram from 7700k era and never find an upgrade for years. it is a 16x2 gskill royale 4000mhz c16. i was able to push it all the way to around 4400 with cl19 when i used to use 8700k, now is 3600c14 with my 3900x. hope i can get a 5900x or 5950x soon

[@Tronnus]

Ahjo okay but what RAM speed has the best Performance on ryzen

[@Toad_Hugger]

For Zen 1 I'd recommend 3200, for Zen 2 and 3 I'd recommend 3600.

[@blyatnahui400]

5900x build for which one should i go? G.Skill Trident Z Neo F4-3600C16Q-32GTZN(4x) or the F4-3600C14D-32GTZN(2x)?

[@Bohausen]

Ah thank you. This information helps me a lot. I was a little confused because i have dual channel but single Rank. And i didn't understand what does single rank mean.

[@ShinobiDiabolik]

16 sticks here, all of them identical 32 gb each, in quad cannel, dual dimm per channel, dual rank 2Rx4 for a dual Xeon config here.

[@aerrhh]

One question, I bought two ram sticks of the exact same brand, model, frequency, size… the only thing that is different is the rank, one is single, the other is double… is there any problem using both?

[@BenLJackson]

I cry when I find people in a single channel mode config, to this damn day it happens monthly.

[@weepgamer]

I don't own Rams, I prefer Goats.

[@dinozaurpickupline4221]

have heat spreaders like Rams?

[@isassin]

Considering I have 16 GB DDR4 RAM, no. It doesn't.

[@sunnydecree8410]

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[@isassin]

@@sunnydecree8410 no.

[@Mensters]

Dawid just did this! Crazy!