O'Neill Cylinders

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Isaac Arthur

Isaac Arthur

6 жыл бұрын

Far larger than any conventional Space Station, O'Neill Cylinders could potentially serve as as entire city-states or nature preserves.
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Writers:
Isaac Arthur
Script Editors:
Darius Said
Keith Blockus
Konstantin Sokerin
Mark Warburton
Matthew Acker
Michael Gusevsky
MolbOrg
Sigmund Kopperud
Sam McNamara
Producer
Isaac Arthur
Cover Artist
Jakub Grygier
Graphics Team
Jarred Eagley
Jeremy Jozwik
Justin Dixon
Katie Byrne
Kris Holland (Mafic Studios) www.maficstudios.com
Sam McNamara (Rapid Thrash)
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Narrator:
Isaac Arthur
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Luca De Rosa - lucaderosa2@live.com
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@isaacarthurSFIA
@isaacarthurSFIA 6 жыл бұрын
Some fun extra links: Bryan Versteeg's Awesome Kaplana One Cylinder Hab model: vimeo.com/90589263 Fragomatik's equally awesome Kaplana One: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nprRmJ2GYqegrKM MIT's groundbreaking graphene mass production technique that got published a couple days ago: news.mit.edu/2018/manufacturing-graphene-rolls-ultrathin-membranes-0418
@AnimeShinigami13
@AnimeShinigami13 6 жыл бұрын
waaaaait a minute, where have I seen a big wheel in space? *pokes gundam wing and cowboy bebop with a stick*
@firefox5926
@firefox5926 6 жыл бұрын
i would think a torus like shape would do nicely
@user-el6ve2rl9b
@user-el6ve2rl9b 6 жыл бұрын
Are you planning on condensing all of these into a book? it would be fantastic, specially if you also include those fantastic illustrations
@ExtantFrodo2
@ExtantFrodo2 6 жыл бұрын
Like the Galapagos, we will undoubtedly see quite a lot of diversification on the different habitats if they are reproductively isolated enough.
@isaacarthurSFIA
@isaacarthurSFIA 6 жыл бұрын
I've seriously considered it, still on the fence
@Horesmi
@Horesmi 6 жыл бұрын
Douglas Adams: -Space is big. Really big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind-bogglingly big it is. Isaac Arthur: -*it's free real estate*
@SahasaV
@SahasaV 6 жыл бұрын
Actually laughed at that, gg.
@Jupiter__001_
@Jupiter__001_ 6 жыл бұрын
AlHoresmi kek
@JeanLucCaptain
@JeanLucCaptain 6 жыл бұрын
also, draw away from the principality of Zeon, because they drop colonies on your head.
@cluckeryduckery261
@cluckeryduckery261 6 жыл бұрын
Slartibartifast is gonna be pissed... or perhaps not... can rotating habitats have fjords? I hear he's good wth fjords.
@prakadox
@prakadox 6 жыл бұрын
Mckendree cylinders (carbon nanotube) could have fjords. O'Neill (steel, aluminium) ones, not so much..
@JadeRabbit-je4gd
@JadeRabbit-je4gd 6 жыл бұрын
This is one of those KZbin channels that makes you feel you've struck gold upon finding them. Been a fan for a while now and seriously look forward to all your videos. Please don't ever stop.
@martinwillumsen2574
@martinwillumsen2574 6 жыл бұрын
Casey Frey I felt the same way; stumbled randomly apon the space warfare video last summer anf just began bindging from there untill there was only the new videoes left XD
@darishante
@darishante 5 жыл бұрын
Absolutely agree. I should be writing or cleaning house, but instead I'm watching all of these and taking notes.
@badman11221
@badman11221 4 жыл бұрын
Yep ditto!
@johndawson6057
@johndawson6057 Жыл бұрын
Just found it right now!!!
@lethalwolf7455
@lethalwolf7455 6 жыл бұрын
Tried finding a monotone voice discussing stuff as a sleep aid, yours seemed perfect at first. But, sir, you have failed me! Your content is so fascinating it wakes me rt back up and I’m forced to pay attention! Great channel!
@patrickcummins79
@patrickcummins79 2 жыл бұрын
i actually use this channel as an educational sleep aid, as well.
@Ty-op5xr
@Ty-op5xr 2 жыл бұрын
I watch it to distract me from the ghosts in my room at night
@snikrepak
@snikrepak 2 жыл бұрын
@@Ty-op5xr they shouldn't be too much a bother, just ask them to be a bit more quiet.
@aircraftcarryur
@aircraftcarryur 2 жыл бұрын
Try SEA
@mlt6322
@mlt6322 2 жыл бұрын
Love these videos narrated by Elmer Fudd.
@SandwichRobot
@SandwichRobot 4 жыл бұрын
“It is the year 0079 of the Universal Century...”
@shinjigaming7185
@shinjigaming7185 3 жыл бұрын
The one year war
@JosDun83
@JosDun83 3 жыл бұрын
Mobile Suit Gundam is the best
@gundamdunham7479
@gundamdunham7479 3 жыл бұрын
The best sci-fi mecha anime saga ever!
@SandwichRobot
@SandwichRobot 3 жыл бұрын
@@gundamdunham7479 agreed.
@lucasgrey9794
@lucasgrey9794 3 жыл бұрын
Hey! That's the show that got me interested in O'Neill Cylinders.
@onredj4326
@onredj4326 6 жыл бұрын
These cylinders are my favorite solution for making humans extra-planetary! Terraforming takes waaay too long! Thanks for the video.
@stewartmcnair4186
@stewartmcnair4186 5 жыл бұрын
agreed, mars, venus etc are merely a mineral larder we will mine
@JFrazer4303
@JFrazer4303 5 жыл бұрын
This is the only way for one G. (Cloud cities on Venus or Saturn?) These can be anywhere.
@bryce4724
@bryce4724 5 жыл бұрын
Oh no a system event? Right boot up the engines and watch from a distance
@cursedalien
@cursedalien 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, but wouldn't it be so rewarding to watch evolutionary radiations play out on every terraformable rock?
@whitelabrat
@whitelabrat 4 жыл бұрын
@@cursedalien You can't terraform Mars pretty much ever and we can't even land on Venus really. Why take the risks? Just use material from small moons and asteroids. Much easier to access.
@BillBakerB
@BillBakerB 6 жыл бұрын
"Even a very avid gardener really only uses maybe the first meter of dirt below them." As a gardener, this made me laugh out loud. So true! The luxury of planetary mass-we're such a baby intelligence in this big universe.
@triularity
@triularity 6 жыл бұрын
"That's O'Neill, with two L's!" --Colonel Jack O'Neill
@lukeskydropper
@lukeskydropper 3 жыл бұрын
Indeed Danial Jackson
@BlackGryph0n
@BlackGryph0n 5 жыл бұрын
13:30 Regarding L5 vs L4 for O'Neill Cylinder position; could L5 be favorable because it is "chasing" the moon rather than being chased by it, making it easier to move about without compromising orbital position? At L4, a change in velocity moves you closer to or farther from both the earth AND the moon simultaneously, while at L5, change in velocity moves you towards one and away from the other. Seems like a slightly more stable position to me? A larger orbital "bowl" if you will. :-P
@anhilliator1
@anhilliator1 2 жыл бұрын
So, in other words, build Side 1 and Side 6 first.
@jessepollard7132
@jessepollard7132 2 жыл бұрын
nOt move abnout, but help shield from meteors.
@Ravenous1369
@Ravenous1369 2 жыл бұрын
I also think it would make transferring supplies from the Moon to the stations more efficient, since they are following it you could simply release the craft destined for the station, slow it down while the station catches up to its position, then match velocity once it's in range. I think this would save on fuel as opposed to accelerating from the Moon 'forward' in order to catch up to any installations at L4, but I'm no scientist so could be completely wrong about that possible advantage.
@lasajnae9626
@lasajnae9626 Жыл бұрын
Nice seeing you here
@karlstucki879
@karlstucki879 6 жыл бұрын
I never realized how narrow my view of the possibilities for the future was until I started watching your channel. Thanks for all the awesome videos, and keep it up!
@joanmasdeu4600
@joanmasdeu4600 6 жыл бұрын
Karl Stucki same
@yoloswag6242
@yoloswag6242 5 жыл бұрын
Trueeeeeeeeee e e 3
@zacharyschiffner1341
@zacharyschiffner1341 5 жыл бұрын
You mean "nawwow"
@KlaxontheImpailr
@KlaxontheImpailr 4 жыл бұрын
Same here
@dudeist_priest
@dudeist_priest 6 жыл бұрын
It's so hard to envision a world where living on the planet was an expensive luxery, and *space* is the cheap, pragmatic way of life.
@hunterxcraft8328
@hunterxcraft8328 5 жыл бұрын
Expensive may not be the problem. Think about how people traveled west in America for more resources then they reached the resources and then just stayed their. Then they have kids amd the kids have no desire to leave. Their would just be no desire to leave and go to earth since you consider that place "home"
@geekinutopia5899
@geekinutopia5899 5 жыл бұрын
Actually, these habitats could be quite luxurious and amenity laden to boot! Imagine a smaller version set up as a luxury housing development or resort in outer space! Swimming pools, bowling alleys, fitness suites, mini golf courses, luxury dwellings and or hotel rooms and suites with views of Earth, Luna, Mars, Jupiter and its moons, Saturn and its moons or some other major celestial bodies. My guess is that units on habitats orbiting Jupiter and Saturn would command premium price tags!
@mill2712
@mill2712 4 жыл бұрын
They'd simply use drones at that point. I assume if you have a good space infrastructure, you have good automation as well.
@blazinchalice
@blazinchalice 4 жыл бұрын
@Arusiek90 Unfortunately I have to agree that there is a terrible risk if these being turned into a giant playground for some megalomaniacal cult leader. Cults of personality could change tube life forever.
@sid2112
@sid2112 4 жыл бұрын
@@blazinchalice that risk exists now. It's no reason not to try.
@clintcarpentier2424
@clintcarpentier2424 4 жыл бұрын
16:30 I just want to say, that all these buildings within cylinder images are wrong. Assuming that the ends of the cylinders are north and south, the curvature are then east/west. The sides of the buildings facing north/south can indeed be built straight up. The sides facing east/west however, need to take the curvature of the cylinder into account; this will create a subtle A-frame in order to keep the bearing weight going straight down. Likewise, the floors will have to be dished in design to keep it "flat" lest you have things sliding/rolling to your east/west walls. It's a subtle feature, but a necessary engineering challenge.
@ruphite9521
@ruphite9521 3 жыл бұрын
At what point would a colony’s rotation be so big that you could build “perfect” buildings and not have to worry about sloped walls or floors?
@clintcarpentier2424
@clintcarpentier2424 3 жыл бұрын
@@ruphite9521 That would depend on the size of the building. Lets start with height... If you built your east/west walls parallel to each other, a handful of floors might not be an issue. But going higher, you will get what will effectively be a tornado effect. You might see a straight building, but the cylinder won't, it will be tugging on those upper floors on both sides, making it top heavy; and given that the cylinder is rotating, this will become a serious engineering issue. If your building is wide, you will have to design the floor to accommodate; this has to be taken into account, won't matter how big your cylinder is. Your inner ear is a pain in the ass, it will tell you that you're walking uphill or downhill even when your eyes are telling you it's flat. A warehouse for instance, if you stack things up to a certain height, they'll topple over because the cylinder is pulling it sideways. On a big cylinder, you might get away with a two story house with standard blueprints. Much bigger, hmm... I can foresee major construction companies wandering around with a "shell detector" before breaking ground for any large buildings. Arthur did a video about colonizing Ceres, and mentioned spilling juice and watching it crawl under the. His context was that that section of the cylinder hadn't accounted for Ceres's own gravity; but if you build a space cylinder, with interior buildings that have flat floors, you're gonna get the same effect. Gawd help you if you live in a condo on the east or west side on any floor above 20, you'll fall outta bed every night. You'll notice the lean of the water in the bathtub, you'll never get a proper bath cuzz you can't fill the tub. Let's talk about doors. Most doors swing, especially in residential settings. The east/west doors WILL bind on the floor, so unless they're cut up higher to accommodate the floor curve, they will have to slide north/south. Might be a market for sliding doors. Sliding doors on the north/south walls will HAVE to be on curved rails otherwise they will slam shut or conversely, slam open; the higher you go the tighter the curves.
@ruphite9521
@ruphite9521 3 жыл бұрын
Clint Carpentier weirdly, i can see that becoming something like an attraction for O’Neill cylinder colonies lol, watching water flow away from you under no other effect than the rotation of the colony alone What about on much more massive colonies, like a Bishop ring, which is 2000km across? My thinking is that, at some point, a single structure is too small and too far from the center of rotation to need to accommodate for rotation, then again i wouldn’t really know
@clintcarpentier2424
@clintcarpentier2424 3 жыл бұрын
@@ruphite9521 Again, it's a matter of scale. Anything that takes up more than a city block, will need to take it into account. Here on Earth, we don't think about it cuzz... the earth is big; but we level everything. There was a special track built to test the top speed of the Bugatti. It is perfectly level the whole way. You can't see the finish line from the start line, due to the curvature of the earth. The earth is some 13,000km across.
@clintcarpentier2424
@clintcarpentier2424 3 жыл бұрын
@@ruphite9521 You know what, you've given me an idea for a book I've been sporadically working on. These engineering issues happen to be something that will be brought up, however, these "typical" buildings aren't a major feature of the books; or rather, they aren't the focus, so it keeps feeling like I'm shoving it into the story just to have it there. But, if I build a small cylinder, say less than 5km across, and build structures like in the photos in this video, purposely flawed, it could be used as a engineering school of what not to do, and as a realtor's example of why "fresh colonists" are paying so much for homes that appear somewhat wonky. Thank you.
@sgt_s4und3r54
@sgt_s4und3r54 6 жыл бұрын
I've just recently been watching your videos and I must say they are impressive. Well done sir.
@valrond
@valrond 6 жыл бұрын
Well, you got a lot of catch up to do, then! This is the best channel in KZbin.
@fredricknietzsche7316
@fredricknietzsche7316 6 жыл бұрын
Dont want to go to mars, but visiting an O'Neal cylinder or larger would be hard to resist. Thank you again Mr Arthur.
@lemoncholly
@lemoncholly 6 жыл бұрын
Got my drinks and snacks, let's go.
@Suptiche12
@Suptiche12 6 жыл бұрын
all the megastructure videos are really, really awesome. you make an excellent case in each one for the advantages of building and living in space as opposed to colonization. just generally, thank you so much for all of these. they're so interesting and honestly inspiring. : ]
@jessepollard7132
@jessepollard7132 2 жыл бұрын
This is still "colonization", just in a different form.
@IgorKolosha
@IgorKolosha 6 жыл бұрын
I've said it before and I'll say it again: this is one of the best channels on KZbin!
@Lukegear
@Lukegear 6 жыл бұрын
Character Analysis: Isaac Arthur Science: 100 (max) Futurism: 100 (max) Awesomeness: Beyond measure Special abillity: Ultimate video analysis of science and futurism, able to insta kill lower level opponents by sheer mental desintegration
@Lukegear
@Lukegear 6 жыл бұрын
It's a generic leveling system distorted for the purposes of this joke, a lot of games tend to cap stats at 100, I guess a good example would be the Elder Scrolls franchise
@mycinematics8948
@mycinematics8948 6 жыл бұрын
I'd be down for some Isaac worshipping.
@enlightedjedi
@enlightedjedi 6 жыл бұрын
This seems to turn into a religion :)! I guess not the purpose of this channel :)!
@tristansmith4060
@tristansmith4060 6 жыл бұрын
disintegration*
@mycinematics8948
@mycinematics8948 6 жыл бұрын
He is to futurism, what the force is to a Jedi. Peace and harmony to all.
@GummiArms
@GummiArms 6 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you brought up Gundam, since the space colonies were actually one of the more interesting parts of the setting. Plenty of animes have giant robots killing one-another, but the space colonies are pretty unique to Gundam in that genre. And sometimes I wish we'd get more of an exploration on the dynamic that they create.
@isaacarthurSFIA
@isaacarthurSFIA 6 жыл бұрын
Yes I'm not really all that familiar with the series, as its hard to know where to really start and a lot is fairly weak, but they do seem to give a lot more depth than "giant robots, let's fight!"
@GummiArms
@GummiArms 6 жыл бұрын
I suppose you could say the main time-line was the UC (universal century) timeline, which started with the original Mobile Suit Gundam. That might be a good starting place. Even though it comes off as a little kiddy because of the cast, it does a good job of setting the stage. There's a few spinoffs from that one that were worth watching, Stardust Memories, War in the Pocket, and 08th MS squad. And Zeta Gundam was probably my favorite from the UC timeline. If you wanted something a little more modern, maybe the 00 series, or Iron Blooded Orphans, although those are definitely influenced by the trends of the times, imo. All that said, i wouldn't blame you for saying that Gundam isn't really your thing. Anyways, hope this helps.
@jeffreymilliman2306
@jeffreymilliman2306 6 жыл бұрын
I've been watching Mobile Suit Gundam: The Origin recently and have been really enjoying it. It's not really about giant robots (they generally only show up in flashbacks for the first several episodes) blowing stuff up so much as it's about the backstory to the antagonist in the original series and the political consequences of colonizing the solar system. I'm new to the franchise, and I've found it to be pretty accessible. Granted, it is plagued by melodrama and some eyebrow-raising coincidences, not to mention some really forced elements designed to fit the existing continuity. Even so, if you suspend some disbelief, it's pretty enjoyable. In any event, I just found your page, Mr. Arthur, and am very much enjoying it. Thank you so much for the work you put into these videos!
@Cagliostro81
@Cagliostro81 6 жыл бұрын
Isaac Arthur- If you want to check out Gundam I highly recommend starting with the manga Mobile Suit Gundam: The Origin, it’s a retelling of the original series, but so much better. I’d also recommend Gundam 0080: War in The Pocket, it’s a short six episode miniseries that 90% takes place in a single O’Neill Cylinder, and I think you’d enjoy how they decided to design the layout of the inside of the colony. Also since it’s a stand alone side-story you really don’t have to know anything before hand to enjoy it.
@Griff00
@Griff00 5 жыл бұрын
don't start with origin and just watch the anime in release order
@Antonio-xq2hg
@Antonio-xq2hg 2 жыл бұрын
this is so fascinating. people really dont talk about O'Neill cylinders in science fiction enough... its always terraforming. but this is a WAY more viable option. I also loved that idea of O'Neill cylinder + dyson sphere. Brilliant solution to the energy problem
@anuvisraa5786
@anuvisraa5786 10 ай бұрын
gundam man gundam
@DaidriveCJ
@DaidriveCJ 6 жыл бұрын
Yes! Just as I mentioned on the ringworlds video the Gundam franchise often uses O'Neill Cylinders as colonies throughout the series
@jasontoddman7265
@jasontoddman7265 6 жыл бұрын
Your channel was the best of its kind on KZbin from the very beginning, and yet somehow still manages to keep getting better and better all the time. I hope you keep this up for a good long time, and that more people keep discovering you too. Closing in on a quarter of a million subs now too. Wow! You never fail to impress! :-)
@alexandrearrive6199
@alexandrearrive6199 6 жыл бұрын
"8km by 32km for the metric system" Oh, Isaac, merci beaucoup.
@jonderr3908
@jonderr3908 Жыл бұрын
I've been listening to this channel since I discovered it two weeks ago. I keep it on all day at work instead of the radio. High quality intellectual stimulation. Best content on KZbin. Outstanding work.
@chromabotia
@chromabotia 6 жыл бұрын
Possibly your best video yet! Thank you. I was in my prime at the time of the birth of O'Neil Cylinders and the L5 Society. There was such optimism at that time and we did what we could to make it happen. Alas... I so appreciate your efforts Isaac to educate and to keep the flame alive!
@iainballas
@iainballas 6 жыл бұрын
Best part of Waking Up, is Arthur Teaching Stuff! Y'know, you are the first youtube channel I actually FOLLOW, not just sub to and check in on once in a while. I've never really gotten into the whole 'social media' stuff, as I mostly read novels. Love the information and the presentation.
@4kdemoscene
@4kdemoscene 6 жыл бұрын
He's one very smart person, the bell is rung and a thumb is always up for Mr. Arthur videos.
@pussywran
@pussywran 6 жыл бұрын
Nothing better then then the trusty clockwork of the 10am weekly Arthursday
@dartmada9733
@dartmada9733 4 жыл бұрын
That would be weird; looking up in the sky and seeing land Interesting
@theblindlucario5093
@theblindlucario5093 6 жыл бұрын
Isaac, the confidence that you have for humanity's future always inspires me. Thanks for making great content like always!
@thedeveloper4207
@thedeveloper4207 6 жыл бұрын
Even KZbin knows that your video should be first on my recommendations on a Thursday!
@cacogenicist
@cacogenicist 6 жыл бұрын
Kiran R - Recommendations have gotten better. But -- and maybe it's a particularly hard problem for their fancy machine learning -- I wish their algorithms were able to identify a "wing-nuts" characteristic and exclude it from my recommendations. Because I watch Issac Arthur videos does not mean that I'm interested in "Obama has a secret base on Mars" videos, and the like. :-)
@blakewalsh9489
@blakewalsh9489 6 жыл бұрын
Agreed! I installed a blocker extension just so I could block those channels.
@tamasmihaly1
@tamasmihaly1 6 жыл бұрын
The new graphics are awesome and well appreciated! You're such a sage, Isaac! I really like your style.
@user-pg3sw6kk7v
@user-pg3sw6kk7v 6 жыл бұрын
Q_Q in these upsetting times having a voice of reason and interest in the hope of humanity and the great wonders of the expanse, reminds me to never stop seeing the beauty of it all.
@marcmcfarland3642
@marcmcfarland3642 5 жыл бұрын
Props for mentioning Mobile Suit Gundam & Mass Effect
@ahblooloo8639
@ahblooloo8639 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you, this is my favourite space exploration topic. If we manage to build them en masse, we'll be able to live anywhere in space.
@cypressz
@cypressz 6 жыл бұрын
I feel like you missed something with your concept of invading these O'Neil cylinders. First, a deathtrap isn't of much consequence to drones and sabotage and internal divisions could be another non-destructive way to conquer them. There's also the possibility of these cylinders linking up to combine computing power and intelligence to better wage information warfare. In that case the biggest and smartest groups do have a large potential advantage. Large swarms of AI controlled drones with thermal shielding for lasers might be able to board without destroying the place. Gotta say though, loved the video, it's one I've been waiting for.
@isaacarthurSFIA
@isaacarthurSFIA 6 жыл бұрын
Internal sabotage is always a seperate issue, as for instance you might bribe/subvert the port security and spill out ten thousand elite shock troops from a grain ship. You can't really virus or psych warfare one though, they can shut off all exterior comms, such a cylinder is basically a giant faraday cage. And drones are just as susceptible to bottlenecks as humans, if you're using swarms of them they probably have them too, though sheer material loss in droves is easier to keep up than people loss, so fair point there. People might get touchy you lost a trillion dollars in drones swarming a place but less so than a million troops.
@cypressz
@cypressz 6 жыл бұрын
I suppose that would make drone-swarms on these cylinders used for either something that's more important than cost (like a religious or ideological war) or when the cost is worth it to gain the resources in it, if ever. Although you could recycle the drones to some extent afterward with whatever material isn't flying off too fast to be caught. Thanks for responding, you made some awesome points. I didn't really consider the faraday cage being part of the built-in package. Sneaking in malware through normal trade and communications is the only other thing I could think of and that would probably not be too easy.
@stefanr8232
@stefanr8232 6 жыл бұрын
build drones with materials from destroyed cylinders?
@cypressz
@cypressz 6 жыл бұрын
If you destroy the cylinder you don't need the expendable drone fleets. But any of it that isn't flying off too fast to salvage should be recyclable.
@YodaWhat
@YodaWhat 6 жыл бұрын
There is also the option of simply _engulfing_ an opponent's entire space structure inside a much larger one. It becomes a sort of Pac-Man game, on a gigantic scale! There they would be cut off from trade, communications, and disposal of waste heat. They either power down everything, or slowly heat up and 'cook in their own juices'. Surrender or Die!
@MattieAMiller
@MattieAMiller 5 жыл бұрын
"Fictitious or not: it will hold your feet to the ground just fine." yes! I love this sentence.
@ilkoderez601
@ilkoderez601 Жыл бұрын
This episode is really good. At first I wanted more details (numbers) for the different cylinder designs but overall this is a _really_ good episode. Very well done. Bravo!
@Cris022
@Cris022 6 жыл бұрын
It seems as Issac has re-awoken from his cryonic sleep. I love Arthursday!!!!
@SimonClarkstone
@SimonClarkstone 6 жыл бұрын
I have had an idea kicking around for a while about how to besiege a space station other than destroying it: You could beam lots of radiation at it to heat it up or reduce how effective its cooling systems are. This can be tailored to e.g. prevent heavy industry, or prevent food growing, or actually make people uncomfortable. This would require the cooperation of parties that have more power than the station under siege, but in a 3D arrangement you can have a lot of neighbours to be attacking you. Unrelated to this: an advantage of planets over space stations is that any air that leaks out of a space station is lost to interplanetary space, but air has a much harder time leaking out of a planet, especially as rock planets are usually less dense than Earth and so would have a higher escape velocity if they had the same surface gravity (OTOH as you say such planets will be super-rare).
@isaacarthurSFIA
@isaacarthurSFIA 6 жыл бұрын
It's an option but it would have to be sustained for it not to basically be explosive weapon fire, and they could start countering by mirror-ing up their hull for instance. Same as with taking out their power supplies, to freeze them out, it could work as they might surrender before it got fatal.
@stefanr8232
@stefanr8232 6 жыл бұрын
Causing a leak would piss off everyone in an Oneal cylinder. If they are under a kilometer of ice it would be hard to measure if you killed anyone. Some are going to be indoors and buildings are not hard to keep independently sealed. The gas that escaped to space could be either the atmosphere or gas from pressurized tanks or cryo-liquid. The fission nuclear reactor waste will continue radiating heat whether or not anyone is alive. You would not know how much of the kilometers of icy mass was liquefied. Punching a hole would not disable surface point defense systems. On a rocky planet like Earth you get weather everywhere. Radioactive fallout from the attack and/or your own failed reactors will blow around. Cracks in some deep bunkers will allow in flood water. Warm spots with industrial activity or large life-support systems will have convection currents and identifiable infra-red signature. Extremely deep bunkers like Cheyenne mountain complex are in known locations and very difficult to rearrange. You cannot go too deep without hitting magma. In addition to retaining air Earth will also pull molten rock back onto it's surface. "Buried under magma" is fatal for most terrestrial bunker designs.
@Cyberwar101
@Cyberwar101 6 жыл бұрын
Isaac Arthur might be worth it, as historically sieges of castles and fortified cities was something that could take months, years, or even longer. It was often simply too bloody to simply take such a fortification so the only option is to siege them. This way they can strong-arm into surrender, or simply prevent them from supplying and supporting your enemies forces.
@johnwang9914
@johnwang9914 6 жыл бұрын
Radiated heat is infrared light and hence can be reflected and focused. Imagine the heat radiators being in an enclosed chamber which reflects and focuses the light out through a narrow slit in the outer insulating hull. Very little radiated heat from an external sources would get in but the radiated heat would still get out. Heating such aperture heat radiators from the outside would be an ineffective attack.
@glenncarey1866
@glenncarey1866 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for bringing your sense of wonder and imagination to my pathetic dull life.
@user-lp7tx1fe6t
@user-lp7tx1fe6t 6 жыл бұрын
Glenn Carey hit the gym
@gulabjamun173
@gulabjamun173 6 жыл бұрын
Hey Isaac, am a big fan of your channel and I just wanted to say it's visionaries/futurists like you that give hope to civilization and the survival of mankind, conversations about the near and far future should take place more often as it gives us much to strive for and something to look forward to, keep making great videos!
@LunequeSilvaJunior
@LunequeSilvaJunior 6 жыл бұрын
Space Colonies, one of the main themes of the classic Mobile Suite Gundam.
@zerox8413
@zerox8413 4 жыл бұрын
As long this doesn't happen 😅 kzbin.info/www/bejne/mnS4hIOHfNeYmaM
@McFugo
@McFugo 6 жыл бұрын
How can you possibly be finding everything I'm excited about and make a 30 min video on it ALL THE TIME, CONSISTENTLY? Are you a wizard
@weishenmejames
@weishenmejames 6 жыл бұрын
Just signed up for Brilliant with your link Arthur - you're the learning trove that just keeps giving! Keep it up we love you and all your dedication!
@dfgdfg_
@dfgdfg_ 6 жыл бұрын
The suspension bridge metaphor was really helpful for a layman (me). Thank you.
@jesseedmondson2861
@jesseedmondson2861 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome! I was just looking for a good in depth video about O'Neill cylinders yesterday and here you come with one this morning!
@Kenadian2006
@Kenadian2006 6 жыл бұрын
I expected more Gundam references.
@thesilverceres7042
@thesilverceres7042 5 жыл бұрын
Same
@ronschlorff7089
@ronschlorff7089 5 жыл бұрын
Mercifully, he did not!!
@natesmodelsdoodles5403
@natesmodelsdoodles5403 4 жыл бұрын
it does have the most realistic ones in pop culture. and some of them do end up looking and functioning the way he said in this video.
@zerox8413
@zerox8413 4 жыл бұрын
Just hope nobody trying to drop Space Colony to Earth because they've want to independent from Earth 😅
@SandwichRobot
@SandwichRobot 4 жыл бұрын
Yesh
@landroveraddict2457
@landroveraddict2457 6 жыл бұрын
Arthur C. Clarke - Rendezvous With Rama I prefer to call them Clarke Cylinders!
@Griffin12536
@Griffin12536 6 жыл бұрын
Holy crap, I live in an adjacent county from you. Small world.
@ziltoidhecomes7924
@ziltoidhecomes7924 6 жыл бұрын
One of the best channels on KZbin!
@voicetube
@voicetube 6 жыл бұрын
FYI, "Rendezvous With, Rama" is an AWESOME book!! Very beautifully scientific and one of the few works of fiction that deals with inherent (and potentially grave) danger where no one actually gets severely/violently hurt, etc. Sorry if that was a bit of a spoiler, but for those of you more interested in science that a lot of killing and stuff… I think you will appreciate this heads up :-)
@voicetube
@voicetube 6 жыл бұрын
PS, the follow-up book To RWR (call it a sequel) for me anyway, was not nearly as good as the first one.
@BigGreen204
@BigGreen204 6 жыл бұрын
I've been reading the Rama series as of late so I was looking forward for this Arthursday in particular. Another reason to love this channel!
@krzysztofs3t532
@krzysztofs3t532 6 жыл бұрын
Great video! And frankly, for me it is one of the best episodes.
@_Omega_Weapon
@_Omega_Weapon 6 жыл бұрын
Your content and research is second to none. I'm grateful for the effort and insight in which you instill within each video. Please continue the good work. Your dedication to these subjects is much appreciated!
@mikedrop4421
@mikedrop4421 6 жыл бұрын
It's a treat getting to dive deep into this topic. O-cylinders are ubiquitous in Tera forming & colonization discussions. It's ironic that they have not already had their own episode. Thanks for the refresher course!
@skyhawk551
@skyhawk551 6 жыл бұрын
I read the High Frontieer a few years ago, I stumbled upon it while doing some research and when I started reading it, I couldnt put it down for several days. I'm happy that you covered it specifically. Thank you
@joefarah06
@joefarah06 6 жыл бұрын
I look forward to these all week long.
@gareththompson2708
@gareththompson2708 6 жыл бұрын
YEESSSS!!!! I've been looking forward to this one for a while :D. I've already clicked 'like' before even watching the video. That's how much faith I have in the quality of your content.
@paulwalsh2344
@paulwalsh2344 6 жыл бұрын
I always wait for a video to "grab" me, move me. That happened after the first line again in this one.
@skyhawk551
@skyhawk551 6 жыл бұрын
Haha I did the same thing so I could watch it later, I just know its going to be good
@treefarm3288
@treefarm3288 6 жыл бұрын
The little cylinders or bubbles in rings around the O'neill cylinder are supposed to be for agriculture. Since i'm a farmer I found these interesting. Each one could have say 1000 hectares of planting area, and the climate would be sutiable for certain crops. The next bubble could be very different, or the same crop at a different stage, to provide a steady food supply. Although insects and microfauna and -flora would be required, pathogenic ones could be excluded. In a plant disease emergency the atmosphere could be evacuated temporarily. Every enviroment of Earth could be duplicated, thus every plant or animal could be adapted, as long as the gravity were simulated, there was enough water and a layer of dirt, which could be created from crushed space rock plus bio-inputs to decompose it. It needen't take too long.
@treefarm3288
@treefarm3288 6 жыл бұрын
I meant 100 hectares.
@ayoung151
@ayoung151 6 жыл бұрын
As always, outstanding video. Thank you for continuing to share your passion for these topics!
@RJL738
@RJL738 6 жыл бұрын
You get points for mentioning Gundam with me.
@jorisboulet3619
@jorisboulet3619 6 жыл бұрын
Finally the Babylon 5 episode , allways wanted to know more !!!
@debclatterbuck6833
@debclatterbuck6833 6 жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for this forever! Thank you Isaac!!!
@EhhPekk
@EhhPekk 6 жыл бұрын
Nice hearing about The Expanse again, easily my favorite tv series at the moment. Going to be traveling this summer and I hope to make it through the books in my down time. Another great episode.
@kurogawa
@kurogawa 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. I've been fascinated by space habitats since I was a little kid.
@PANAGIOTISAMPATZIS
@PANAGIOTISAMPATZIS 6 жыл бұрын
Mentioning Gundams ....
@tlkshowhst
@tlkshowhst 5 жыл бұрын
Brilliant work. You have so much insight towards these concepts. Thanks for creating this awesome channel.
@BoneIdolUK
@BoneIdolUK 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the update video, the original rotating habitat one was so long ago and rotating habitats certainly come up often
@noneya2314
@noneya2314 6 жыл бұрын
I have been waiting since Monday to try out my Brand new SFIA Coffee Cup ( Thank you Isaac) waiting for the next release in this Epic Series! Now I am set with it full and a Chocolate Brownie so lets get the O'Neill Cylinders rolling!
@krisspkriss
@krisspkriss 6 жыл бұрын
I stalk your youtube every Thursday and eagerly await your next topic. Thank you for every video. Keep it up!
@gregwessendorf
@gregwessendorf 6 жыл бұрын
Tell me about it. Do you not have notifications on?
@krisspkriss
@krisspkriss 6 жыл бұрын
Greg, I do have them on but sometimes I get the notification and sometimes I don't. KZbin AI has run amok. It is like that for all the channels I subscribe and hit the bell on.
@gregwessendorf
@gregwessendorf 6 жыл бұрын
Christina Kirschner You can change the settings for notifications. You can set it to get most notifications or all. It's only on the web version, not mobile (or at least not Android).
@krisspkriss
@krisspkriss 6 жыл бұрын
It is set for all. This is a known "feature" of notification. It happens less for this channel and A LOT more for Philip DeFranco and Jimmy Dore. Oddly, I get every notification for RT. KZbin be playing with their AI.
@AC-ss2sv
@AC-ss2sv 5 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video!!! Thanks so much!
@stainlesssteelfox1
@stainlesssteelfox1 6 жыл бұрын
One thing I wondered when I designed a large O'Neil habitat for a sci-fi RPG is why the atmosphere would spin with the ground. My reference design was 10 km radius and 100 km long, hollowed out of an asteroid. For 1G surface gravity that's one rotation every three and a half minutes, or a tangential velocity of 313 m/s. Left to itself, the interior atmosphere would be static with reference to the outside, which would translate to a continuous speed of sound hurricane racing across the inner surface. Of course, there would be some friction between the surface and the air, reducing the speed somewhat, but we're still most likely talking hurricane weather. The obvious solution was a set of baffles, five kilometres high, that contained the lower altitude air, forcing it to spin with the surface. Of course it created a transition zone at the tops between the non-rotating core air and the rotating outer air, a series of horizontal tornadoes trailing off the top edges. The whole interior geometry was designed so that the tornadoes formed the core of the air circulation and mixing system, as well as assisting cloud formation. One of the recreation activities was skydiving in a wingsuit. Since gravity is apparent, and can be partially negated by flying fast enough in the anti-spin direction, you could pretty much adjust your terminal velocity to suit yourself with enough momentum. You landed on the central annular sea using skis or a board.
@King_Dogspeed
@King_Dogspeed 6 жыл бұрын
Yay new episode! Thank you! Your videos are my favorite thing to watch while I recover. Thank you so much for putting the time and effort to making these.
@isaacarthurSFIA
@isaacarthurSFIA 6 жыл бұрын
You're very welcome!
@chojinnppp
@chojinnppp 6 жыл бұрын
These videos are wonderful, oases of reasonable discussion and contemplation in a desert of, mostly, sociopolitical garbage.
@Hallo1248574
@Hallo1248574 5 жыл бұрын
Amen brother!
@markharmon4963
@markharmon4963 3 жыл бұрын
Well....it was.
@savary5050
@savary5050 2 жыл бұрын
@@markharmon4963 explain
@markharmon4963
@markharmon4963 2 жыл бұрын
@@savary5050My comment was a joke that being anti political is political. If a place is natural enough without politics, why introduce it artificially in the guise of being a centrist, apolitical or above it all?
@savary5050
@savary5050 2 жыл бұрын
@@markharmon4963 Okay
@chrisdraughn5941
@chrisdraughn5941 5 жыл бұрын
I’ve been catching up with some of the great content on this channel and really enjoyed this episode! I view these as well organized talks, or lectures from a really cool professor.
@BobTheButtworm1
@BobTheButtworm1 4 жыл бұрын
This is one of the best KZbin channels I've ever seen, excellent work!
@DaveDangerous74
@DaveDangerous74 6 жыл бұрын
Great video. I tend to imagine that there will be few if any building on an O’Neil cylinder. Rooms will be built into the cylinder itself. The large centre space will be an ornate garden.
@peerfunk
@peerfunk 6 жыл бұрын
NICE love these videos :D
@wambutu7679
@wambutu7679 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent series. Thank you.
@Krommandant
@Krommandant 6 жыл бұрын
This is definitely my favorite video in the whole channel!
@anthonyhall7019
@anthonyhall7019 6 жыл бұрын
Megatelescopes? I can't wait!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@charjl96
@charjl96 6 жыл бұрын
Or a colony laser media.giphy.com/media/XMhsp9JSXUveM/giphy.gif
@feynstein1004
@feynstein1004 6 жыл бұрын
Me neither
@JFrazer4303
@JFrazer4303 3 жыл бұрын
Try simultaneous interferometry across orbital distances. Comparing data from two antennae is almost as good as a single antenna of size =to the distance between them. We do a lot of good with observations earth-diameter simultaneously and across Earth's orbit around the Sun 6 months later. How about a big telescope/antennae array at the Earth-Sun L-4 & 5 region. Easy access from here. Probably needs a magsail to occasionally use to change its orbit. Now have one at the space colony at Mars, and among Jupiter's moons, then Saturn. Out at 520AU is the focus point of the Sun's gravitational lens, to the region around the center of the galaxy. That needs an O'Neill habitat university city / resort. Distances to comet-bodies for supply are great, but relative velocities are tiny. Any of a number of near-term interstellar ship engines which make lousy slow interstellar ships, do just fine. Dyson's "Super" Orion can get up to .1C total velocity change, so that makes a 5million ton hotel-liner that crosses 100AU in 17 days, @ peak midcourse speed.
@TheProtronic
@TheProtronic 6 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite channels to geek out to and made by a fellow Ohioan.
@tmyersadk
@tmyersadk 6 жыл бұрын
After enjoying a few of your videos I had to say thanks for doing what you do. And doing it damn well. Take Care!
@BaddAtom
@BaddAtom 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent again! thank you, and your audience is top notch, great comments guys
@mrhamtastic3385
@mrhamtastic3385 6 жыл бұрын
Yay! I finally caught up! Wait... that means a whole week for a new episode. Aw, man.
@Dorian_sapiens
@Dorian_sapiens 6 жыл бұрын
It's rough.
@Bobsry16
@Bobsry16 6 жыл бұрын
What I've been waiting for!! thanks Arthur! Kaplana One is an interesting model too, preferably scaled up.
@isaacarthurSFIA
@isaacarthurSFIA 6 жыл бұрын
Yes that's one of my favorites, I'm glad to say that unlike most of our megastructures, these actually have a lot of visual representations these days.
@twirlipofthemists3201
@twirlipofthemists3201 6 жыл бұрын
Kalpana One is my #1 favorite. The scale seems right to me.
@Bobsry16
@Bobsry16 6 жыл бұрын
2 kilometers diameter would be good.
@guard13007
@guard13007 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this channel. I'm new to it but I love every video I've seen so far.
@10000words1
@10000words1 6 жыл бұрын
Another awesome episode, Isaac. O'Neill cylinders are the most important under-discussed concept will greatly affect our future.
@acnine-ball8976
@acnine-ball8976 6 жыл бұрын
These videos are just the best.
@humanbraininrobotbod
@humanbraininrobotbod 6 жыл бұрын
On Babylon 5, I always found myself wishing that they would show more of the "outdoor" areas in the open interior. Most scenes took place in rooms and corridors. Also, how did they have gravity in the CNC room?
@isaacarthurSFIA
@isaacarthurSFIA 6 жыл бұрын
Yes I wish there'd been more of that too, but while they were really ahead of their time in CGI use interior shots are harder than exterior for O'Neills. We get that one really nice shot where Sheridan is falling and Koch catches him, but that's about it, and if you watch that high-red these days it doesn't age well. As to the CNC, I've heard two semi-explanations that I'm not sure are canon. First ones is that it does actually turn just seperatetly, second that ti does but the grav in there is lower, and they just can't practically film that.
@Spicy_chef
@Spicy_chef 6 жыл бұрын
Isaac, i cant tell you how long i've been waiting for a standalone O'Neill Cylinder video! THANKS!
@ericmarier6627
@ericmarier6627 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you Isaac once again for another interesting and educating video. It is refreshing to follow You Tubers like yourself.
@dickimusmaximus9086
@dickimusmaximus9086 6 жыл бұрын
Next week GUNDAMS ✌😃👊
@Duhya
@Duhya 6 жыл бұрын
It's a joke don't over-analyse it.
@Exoneos
@Exoneos 6 жыл бұрын
Let's make Zeon great again !
@c.l.7525
@c.l.7525 6 жыл бұрын
You'd need Protoculture.
@charjl96
@charjl96 6 жыл бұрын
A full episode for Gundam would be awesome! Universal Century only, though! syaondri, he mentioned "giant humanoid combat robots" with footage of the life size RX-78 model in Japan at the opening of his Space Warfare video. He said as cool as the idea of giant robots is, it's not feasible.
@Ichijoe2112
@Ichijoe2112 6 жыл бұрын
C. L. Wrong TV Show...
@jjpemorin4365
@jjpemorin4365 6 жыл бұрын
Yay Arthursday!
@brandonstanley9125
@brandonstanley9125 6 жыл бұрын
You've introduced me to a lot of science fiction concepts. Thank you.
@ogrehaslayers605
@ogrehaslayers605 6 жыл бұрын
Love your channel. Thank you.
@nervun8097
@nervun8097 3 жыл бұрын
Everybody gangsta until the Zeon Municipality attacks your o'neil colony
@alejandror.planas9802
@alejandror.planas9802 6 жыл бұрын
O'Neill Cylinders and Ringworlds are the least expensive, most doable, versatile and desirable alternatives for space colonization. As a business owner, whilst I am still very far from being able to implement something like this, I firmly believe that the aforementioned and a Lunar facility capable of being a hub for asteroid mining (both sending and receiving ships) are the most important projects we should take on before the end of the century. (Not martian colonization)
@chadvanderlinden9548
@chadvanderlinden9548 6 жыл бұрын
I agree. Lunar prospecting, for the purpose of colony-building should come first. Perhaps we'll tackle Mercury for power station building after that. Mars's moons (not Mars) make a good place to learn asteroid-mining. It'll be orbital colony life the whole way, until our tech is so cheap and safe that we can visit planetary surfaces for science and leisure (but not permanent colonization).
@yusrisaadun5497
@yusrisaadun5497 5 жыл бұрын
In gundam unicorn they explaind how humanity built the colony..it was simple and looks doable
@yusrisaadun5497
@yusrisaadun5497 5 жыл бұрын
It's like giant circle gantry how we built a bridge..they called the snail machine
@bryanstephens4800
@bryanstephens4800 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome. I have always love these since I was a kid!
@FUBBA
@FUBBA 6 жыл бұрын
Caught this on the SoundCloud channel was a great listen in the car thanks for sharing brother Arthur
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