Damaged Spacecraft & Shipwrecked Saucers

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Spaceships getting damaged or crashing is common story in science fiction but it's also terrifyingly common with real spaceships. So what do we if our spaceship gets damaged?
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Damaged Spacecraft & Shipwrecked Saucers
Science & Futurism with Isaac Arthur
Episode 366, October 27, 2022
Produced & Narrated by Isaac Arthur
Produced, Written
& Narrated by:
Isaac Arthur
Editors:
Konstantin Sokerin
Cover Art by:
Jakub Grygier
Graphics by:
Jeremy Jozwik
Ken York
Legiontech Studios
Mikael Lampiranta
Sergio Botero
Udo Schroeter
Music Courtesy of
Markus Junnikkala, "Plotting a Course", "We Roam the Stars"
Stellardrone, "Red Giant" "Between the Rings"
Miguel Johnson, "Far From Home", "So Many Stars"
Aerium, "Fifth Star of Aldebaran"

Пікірлер: 608
@MrLeafeater
@MrLeafeater Жыл бұрын
Starfleet is lucky to get volunteers at all, the way they do wiring. No wonder Scotty was on edge ALL the time; every interaction with the tech could have meant a horrifying electrocution.
@earnestbrown6524
@earnestbrown6524 Жыл бұрын
I don't know why Starfleet just doesn't use crew consoles as warheads instead of antimatter.
@clementvining2487
@clementvining2487 Жыл бұрын
It sounds to me you have no idea how the systems are surpose to work. There wiring is a lot more complex than anything we do. It is a mix of plasma and electrical circuits. There power systems are plasma based they don't have generators like we do. There power systems have direct conversion from plasma. That is extremely efficient but a lot more complex.
@arcadiaberger9204
@arcadiaberger9204 Жыл бұрын
@@clementvining2487 It is funny how with centuries of technological development, Starfleet still hasn't rendered pyrotechnic circuit breakers obsolete.
@MrLeafeater
@MrLeafeater Жыл бұрын
@@clementvining2487 All that complexity, with memetic gel packs and buffers everywhere, but something bumps into the outer hull in the just the right spot and ZAPP, another guy on the bridge gets charred to a smokin' spot on the carpet, and lightning flies all over the room...also, I'm makin' a joke about old-timey special effects.
@boobah5643
@boobah5643 Жыл бұрын
@@clementvining2487 And terribly implausible for an organization that prefers to have _at least_ two backups. Why would you pipe _plasma_ into your control consoles when you can just use low voltage, low amperage electricity? You don't get more or better responses to controls by way of Tim Taylor Technology; it isn't a problem you can solve with MOAR POWAH.
@tixeright9120
@tixeright9120 Жыл бұрын
I like the damage control on BSG... even when the Galactica was getting nuked on that show, or belly busting a planet's atmosphere, the command area was soaking it all up like a bunker deep inside the ship. And not blowing up every single console and killing an officer over power surges.
@bitharne
@bitharne Жыл бұрын
BSG 2000 is, easily, one of the best shows out there.
@ericvulgate
@ericvulgate Жыл бұрын
Minus the last season
@tony6795
@tony6795 Жыл бұрын
@@ericvulgate minus your bad opinion.
@matthewsoules7064
@matthewsoules7064 Жыл бұрын
Never heard of BSG... Gonna look it up and watch it
@sJs78
@sJs78 Жыл бұрын
@@matthewsoules7064 ?, Battle star Galactica..!
@YouTubeIsRunByMarxists
@YouTubeIsRunByMarxists Жыл бұрын
Space war is going to be like a bunch of people, all armed with bazookas, playing Hide-And-Seek on the middle of a hardpan desert. No place to hide, everyone is immediately in range of everyone else, and every weapon is so ridiculously over-powered.
@harbl99
@harbl99 Жыл бұрын
Mexican Stand-off Rocket Launcher Tag. Not the first time we've been there.
@terricon4
@terricon4 Жыл бұрын
Tanks like the Abrams use a honeycomb structure in the fuel tanks that results in slightly less fuel being stored, but makes them more resistant when taking hits, so they position the fuel tanks on the front so it acts as extra armor for the tank. A large bunch of thick liquid makes decent armor, especially if held in place better so it can flow out of the way easily. It's a good ton plus they are carrying in gas on the vehicle, might as well make that double as armor while they're at it.
@skateboardingjesus4006
@skateboardingjesus4006 Жыл бұрын
"Slamming into the ground; also known as lithobraking". I laughed my arse off way too hard at that. And if I'm going to be on a reliable ship, it's going to have to be the plate class GSV Sleeper Service, (formerly known as the Quietly Confident). It has great in situ manufactories and is a tad handy at outrunning things.
@M33f3r
@M33f3r Жыл бұрын
Culture series is awesome. RIP Ian M Banks
@skateboardingjesus4006
@skateboardingjesus4006 Жыл бұрын
@@M33f3r I genuinely miss him, and am sad that no new "Culture" stories (or any Banks sc-fi ) will be forthcoming.
@UNSCPILOT
@UNSCPILOT Жыл бұрын
Us Kerbal Space Program players use Lithobraking far more and more often than intended, truely, still funny every time though!
@theblackswan2373
@theblackswan2373 Жыл бұрын
Long ago as part of my job, helped support the maintenance of a large factory. It’s amazing what got substituted sometimes as suitable for purpose in a pinch.
@McShave
@McShave Жыл бұрын
99% of problems in a factory can be "temporarily" fixed with a cable tie. Spaceships just need to take up a big bag of cable ties. Problem sorted.
@theblackswan2373
@theblackswan2373 Жыл бұрын
@@McShave approximately half their mass in cable ties to be safe. 😀
@harbl99
@harbl99 Жыл бұрын
@@theblackswan2373 It won't be paperclip maximizer Fermi Threat; it'll be rogue cable tie fabricators.
@theblackswan2373
@theblackswan2373 Жыл бұрын
@@harbl99 no doubt! LOL
@punchkitten874
@punchkitten874 Жыл бұрын
"It ain't pretty, but it works."
@MrRocketDad
@MrRocketDad Жыл бұрын
I feel like in a plausible future, crew will exist primarily as damage control.
@cognisant307
@cognisant307 Жыл бұрын
That's practically how it is for modern cargo ships, between stops the ship navigates by GPS and docking is handled by local harbor pilots, the crew's job is primarily maintenance and being on-hand to respond to emergencies.
@123-p1n4i
@123-p1n4i Жыл бұрын
It would be relevant to notice that the ISS literally had a hull breach and the issue was not a big deal, the crew didn't even have to get into spacesuits. Granted it was a very small leak and it was taken very seriously, but it goes to show how even in our infinitely primitive (for the purpose of sci fi) station can stand some emergencies without it being a catastrophic siren alarm festival.
@jimmiedmc1
@jimmiedmc1 Жыл бұрын
If I recall correctly duct tape is a standard tool up there and that minor leak was temporarily fixed with that
@alanwatts8239
@alanwatts8239 Жыл бұрын
I imagine that the only reason behind it being taken extremely seriously was due to the huge amount of work and shuttles it took to get it there.
@charlesmoore3390
@charlesmoore3390 Жыл бұрын
@@jimmiedmc1 If the stupid idea works, it wasn't a stupid idea.
@HDnero
@HDnero Жыл бұрын
It is funneh that th eengineering failures in Startrek always make it to the interface.
@Stars4Hearts
@Stars4Hearts Жыл бұрын
If it was a big breach- the alarm siren is sort of pointless 🔕
@fabiosplendido9536
@fabiosplendido9536 Жыл бұрын
Gotta love a gent who uses "MacGyver" as a verb. 👍
@libertyjones1451
@libertyjones1451 Жыл бұрын
"Sure we've had first back up, but what about second backup?!" Chief O'Brien, probably.
@singletona082
@singletona082 Жыл бұрын
Two is One. One is None. Nasa works off of this philosophy, or at least did during Apollo.
@ColdHawk
@ColdHawk Жыл бұрын
@@singletona082 - That is a military aphorism. It may have been co-opted by NASA and others but it’s been the hard truth soldiers have lived with since long before history began.
@DarkVeghetta
@DarkVeghetta Жыл бұрын
@@ColdHawk "That's the first rule of warfare, after all." - Isaac Arthur, probably.
@ColdHawk
@ColdHawk Жыл бұрын
@@DarkVeghetta - No doubt about it. In a split second, Isaac Arthur would absolutely endorse that as the First Rule of Warfare!
@harbl99
@harbl99 Жыл бұрын
"Triple redundancy? I mean, sure, if you want to fly by the seat of your pants like that, ya heedless maniac." -- NASA and Chief Miles 'cardigan disliker' O'Brien
@KiaAzad
@KiaAzad Жыл бұрын
12:00 Isn't the most feasible option: storing the brain state digitally and generating an organic body clone near the destination, to upload the brain's state to it? In this scenario, the ship was empty to begin with, and rather than abandoning the ship, the residents simply failed to materialize for one reason or another. A crashed spaceship haunted by digital ghosts in it's system, looking for organic bodies to inhibit. I'll watch that movie.
@reeferbeleafer9912
@reeferbeleafer9912 Жыл бұрын
That's basically the premise for John Carpenters' "The Thing" (1982) only with biologicals .. There is another title I have seen in which this happens - There's a Dr. Who episode that features this exact situation - and there's also a full length film - possibly a Marvel film - can't remember unfortunately but it's definitely been done several times and I agree, it's a timeless plot.
@DarthBiomech
@DarthBiomech Жыл бұрын
Better: a crashed spaceship haunted by service robots looking for suitable biomass to drag off into the bioreactors to make enough stockpiles to reconstruct bodies for the crew who are digital ghosts stored on a hard drive.
@DarthBiomech
@DarthBiomech Жыл бұрын
@@reeferbeleafer9912 It was also an SG-1 episode.
@KiaAzad
@KiaAzad Жыл бұрын
@@DarthBiomech A good plot for wall-e 2. A bio reactor make for a good gore movie, but for horror, It's better if the human bodies being used as is. Just upload the alien brain into them and let them lose to hunt others. One of the details that the writer should pay attention to, would be the difference between the alien and human brain. Perhaps the ship uses a GAN to train the human brains and it's not always perfect.
@ian_b
@ian_b Жыл бұрын
When I was a small child I found a crashed, abandoned spaceship. My dad said it was just an old water tank, but that's adults for you. No imagination.
@winstonsmith478
@winstonsmith478 Жыл бұрын
The sparking and exploding high voltage control panels in scifi spacecraft have always amused me. Required voltages go down as electronic sophistication goes up. Currents go up, for now, but there are overcurrent protections.
@davidtherwhanger6795
@davidtherwhanger6795 Жыл бұрын
It's the FUTURE! Everything is now built with an allow of Explodium, Sparkium, and Smokium. Why can't people see the visionary and practical application of that? (Picard is intrigued by this comment. Sisko is angered by this comment. And Kirk is aroused by this comment.)
@arcadiaberger9204
@arcadiaberger9204 Жыл бұрын
@@davidtherwhanger6795 It is funny how with centuries of technological development, Starfleet still hasn't rendered pyrotechnic circuit breakers obsolete.
@ladislavseps4801
@ladislavseps4801 Жыл бұрын
Depends. For the replicators we are talking petawats of energy. I would assume higher voltage goes long way to avoid trillion amp circuit breakers..
@davidtherwhanger6795
@davidtherwhanger6795 Жыл бұрын
@@ladislavseps4801 But we don't normally see the replicators explode. I don't remember ever seeing a replicator, even a small one, explode. Instead we see the computer panels (control circuts) explode violently enough to throw full grown adults some feet away. Those should be low voltage/ low amperage/ low current systems.
@clementvining2487
@clementvining2487 Жыл бұрын
@@davidtherwhanger6795 It seem like most people see the star trek episodes and have no idea what going on. All the episodes where the control panel explodes is from a outside energy surge. That doesn't mean the control console is high voltage or any kind of safety device would have made any difference. It was part of the story line of the episode.
@StormSilvawalker
@StormSilvawalker Жыл бұрын
"Since we don't live in a science fiction episode... probably..." Isaac 2022
@DarkVeghetta
@DarkVeghetta Жыл бұрын
I was looking for this comment. +1
@harbl99
@harbl99 Жыл бұрын
* sensible chuckle as I read this on my pocket-sized glowing glass tablet pulling data from the global information network *
@99slacker999999999
@99slacker999999999 Жыл бұрын
Only a man who has never thrown a Frisbee would say that a saucer shape doesn't fly well.
@jessepage6575
@jessepage6575 Жыл бұрын
Of course, if you throw it slightly wrong it can plummet and drop out of the air suddenly.
@calvingreene90
@calvingreene90 Жыл бұрын
Aluminizing a plastic soda bottle would make it pretty decent patch material for micrometer holes. It would also keep light from affecting the contents.
@808bigisland
@808bigisland Жыл бұрын
Its a small sticker for small holes and larger stickers for larger holes and the plugs on the station are for as$shole crew.
@joefarah06
@joefarah06 Жыл бұрын
“Since we do not live in a science fiction episode… probably”. 😂
@samuelmatheson9655
@samuelmatheson9655 Жыл бұрын
Imagine if it was
@singletona082
@singletona082 Жыл бұрын
@@samuelmatheson9655 a bored kid mashing the disaster button does explain things though.
@UrdnotChuckles
@UrdnotChuckles Жыл бұрын
I've seen a few movies and games handle the damage / shipwreck angle in what seems like a rather pragmatic way. Even in the case of a severe crash, you've ideally got people and tech still working to do repairs, etc. So you build up the industrial base to do so, even if that takes a while, fix your stuff, and leave. Or maybe a main crew leaves, and a new settlement stays behind. :)
@fluffly3606
@fluffly3606 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like the plot of Factorio
@DarkinPunk
@DarkinPunk Жыл бұрын
I once read a thing on the subject of O'Brien and DS9s problems and found it very amusing about how, yes, DS9 was always having problems. However, they were always rather mundane problems, contrasting with the utter insanity of things that go wrong on Starfleet ships. It talked about the only real time where DS9 had one of those kinds of wacky malfunctions was when they decided to do a Crazy Starfleet Thing and it ended up with the crew as characters on the holodeck. It carried the implication that, by the standards of the rest of the galaxy, Starfleet Engineering was basically a whole faction of literal mad scientists.
@Gauldame
@Gauldame Жыл бұрын
For long distance ships, it always takes me out of the show if the "lone long range explorer" doesn't have a factory with it. I loved Voyager (warts and all) but even kid me was like "why didn't they *immediately* take a left turn into an uninhabited solar system and convert Voyager into a heavily armed factory ship? They have replicators?" (Yes I know..."replicators can't b/c..." BUT replicators CAN replicate robots and tools, and you have a solar system full of raw materials. Build a von Neuman probe factory, launch those babies and have scouts that eat it before you do, and then lumber from raw material point to raw material point, armed, armored and factoried up to the teeth. ) It's...literally their long range, extreme distance, top of the line, explorer. It's *supposed* to work without starbases for long times. That thing should be able to tear apart full solar systems given time and necessity.
@davidtherwhanger6795
@davidtherwhanger6795 Жыл бұрын
I have recently begun to wonder why no one in Star Fleet didn't weaponize cargo transporters. Once an enemy ship's shields were down or if you where sneaky enough, you could transport entire sections of the enemy ship away. Sure you probably couldn't remove things like entire warp or impulse engines, but you could have all of them onboard lock onto the main power source of a ship and just start beaming away what ever they could grab onto from that area. Would cause all kinds of havoc to the enemy.
@icecold9511
@icecold9511 Жыл бұрын
@@davidtherwhanger6795 Remove just part of a warp core.....
@InquisitorMatthewAshcraft
@InquisitorMatthewAshcraft Жыл бұрын
@@davidtherwhanger6795 Beaming a photon grenade into the warp core works too 🤣
@popuptoaster
@popuptoaster Жыл бұрын
@@davidtherwhanger6795 you don't need to beam anything in or out, just target the crew and delete the files from the buffer before you reassemble them, free, undamaged ship with no fight.
@AGTheOSHAViolationsCounter
@AGTheOSHAViolationsCounter Жыл бұрын
@@davidtherwhanger6795 On that note why don't they also have an emergency system for when they get boarded? One where once the computer detects intruders it just starts auto-beaming parts of them into the void. I mean I imagine if you did that enough absolutely NO ONE(save for the Borg probably) would screw with your ships anymore.
@altha-rf1et
@altha-rf1et Жыл бұрын
always wonder why they do not have surge protectors on star trek
@SuperGamefreak18
@SuperGamefreak18 Жыл бұрын
Side effect of the low budget and creative thinking. Probably blame background issues on that. I don’t agree on things with the newer series do on occasion but the exploding console doesn’t really happen anymore since they actual show damage to the ships now. Yeah panels still explode but where the attack happens not on the bridge.
@mawkernewek
@mawkernewek Жыл бұрын
I think they should have had an episode where they had an away mission but they forgot Data's charger adaptor and Geordi tries to improvise one.
@starmatter9175
@starmatter9175 Жыл бұрын
i always wonder why they put explosives in all the control panels that the crew stand over ..
@BurnDoubt
@BurnDoubt Жыл бұрын
LMAO it does seem like they plug everything else into the consoles up on the bridge
@svsguru2000
@svsguru2000 Жыл бұрын
They run high energy plasma conduits through all the consoles. Crazy, I know.
@SuperGamefreak18
@SuperGamefreak18 Жыл бұрын
I always figured besides the bad writing the issue with them not using the replicators in DS9 was for a simple reason they installed the replicators designed for recreational use or smaller scale things but never installed the heavy duty replicators.
@singletona082
@singletona082 Жыл бұрын
DS9's issues are trivial: They don't trust that the cardassians haven't left something nasty behind and a ful lgut-retrofit would cost more than building a new station. Given the thigns we *know* Cardassians have done? It's not unreasonable to think they'd leave spy software in place to radio home wit hthe entire schema starfleet's industrial replicators use for making new parts. Since before the dominion showed up, it was often shown that Cardassia was well behind technologically. Whichleaves a question on why starfleet didn't park a few cruisers in orbit andgo 'look here you little shit-' concerning 'the bajor problem.'
@InquisitorMatthewAshcraft
@InquisitorMatthewAshcraft Жыл бұрын
Industrial replicators damn near require their own warp core to function 🤣
@DrWondertainment821
@DrWondertainment821 Жыл бұрын
That star trek scene was literally what I thought of when you first mentioned backup systems.🤣
@calebfielding6352
@calebfielding6352 Жыл бұрын
Dangit I was hoping for an episode on reverse engeenering crashed alien ships, and pointing out that we probably couldnt reverse engeener it. For instance if romans stumbled upon a U.S. aircraft carrier. They just had no way to make the tools that made the ship, as the ship was made out of steel that they couldnt make, made out 1000's of times of iron that rome ever produced. The Nazis used a 50,000 ton press to make air frames for thier aircraft and the allies could not figure out how they were making the air frames until they invaded and saw the gigantic presses. In other words why we probably couldnt reverse engeener a highly advanced alien ship because the tools that made them are way beyond us.
@simonehudspeth861
@simonehudspeth861 Жыл бұрын
well great episode idea and toss to the trash lol 10 out of 10 cheers
@trentonarney6066
@trentonarney6066 Жыл бұрын
One thing to consider is, how much time does the Finder have to work on it. If one's civilization is near its end, like Rome in the early centuries, so it runs out of time. Versus the U.S. at the end of WWII where in twenty years the Axis tech had largely been decoded and worked into the processes of its industries.
@boobah5643
@boobah5643 Жыл бұрын
Just because you can't copy the method somebody else used doesn't mean you can't make a device that uses the same principles. Just knowing something can be done is significant information; having a device that can demonstrate the process can tell you how to build one, even if you can't build it the same way or at the same scale. And sometimes the method you _can_ do is better at the job than the method you _cannot._ This last bears some explanation; I don't mean "A method you can use is better than one you can't," which is self evident and not worthy of note. I mean local maximums are a thing, and the more 'advanced' civilization may be using a technological evolution that made more sense an innovation or three back, while those reverse-engineering the device are still using a technique the 'advanced' civ abandoned, but actually works better for the current application. As an example, vacuum tubes are still preferred for some applications over transistors.
@calebfielding6352
@calebfielding6352 Жыл бұрын
@@boobah5643 Thats actually a part of the question. What if you can not figure out the principles behind what is being made, like the allies could not figure out how the heck the nazis were making magnissium airframes, especially without all the bolts and screws they were using to build theirs. That said what if for instance a critical component is say alloyed metalic hydrogen that must be mined on a gas giant twice the size of jupiter? There is a reason why chemistry took off after ships started sailing all over the world. It gave them access to certain chemicals they never had access to before. For instance just because you had access to baking soda doesnt mean you could reproduce it without having access to trona ore.
@Lusa_Iceheart
@Lusa_Iceheart Жыл бұрын
If the Romans stumbled on a US aircraft carrier there'd be a huge shock in the simple fact that a metal hull can float. That one tidbit alone would jump an Iron Age civ forward a millennia in ship building tech. Also for the record, the Romans DID smelt an absolute fuck-load of iron. An air craft carrier uses a lot of metal, yes, but the Romans in particular of any pre-industrial civilization could have probably done it if they put their minds to it. The lead mining in Iberia for instances was so intense during the 2nd century that tree ring and ice sheet bore holes in the arctic show a spike in the atmospheric contents that wouldn't be matched again until the Industrial revolution. Water driven mining, in-line water-wheel factory forges and immense levels of consumer production usage. There's a hill in Rome that's made entirely of shattered shards of amphora vats (huge 50 gallon drum sized barrels) that were filled with olive oil. Had things gone just a bit different, the Roman empire could have figured out how to industrialize by 500 ad. Sorta the cultural aspect that goes along with the whole "vacuum tubes vs transistors" choice mentioned before. The Romans unfortunately listened to the Greeks for all the big idea stuff, so Plato and his cave of shadows ephemeral nonsense dominated thought. No one put theories to the test and implemented them, just having the theory was good enough to build a whole second theory off of the first and everything sounded like String Theory. Unprovable bullshit based off of someone elses unprovable bullshit built off of speculation that was never tested. Plato single handedly screwed up reasoning and deduction for roughly a millennia and we still to this day go back to his garbage. If you haven't guessed, I prefer Socrates myself, lol. Anyway, the fact of the matter is yeah the Romans probably COULD have smelted and forged enough iron to create entire fleets of metal vessel, even a few with tonnages similar to a modern warship. An eccentric emperor could've done a single air craft carrier sized flagship, sure, would've been more practical for lots of smaller ships tho (smaller as in WWII destroyer sized, still hundreds of tons of metal).
@herbiehusker1889
@herbiehusker1889 Жыл бұрын
What do you do if your ship breaks down a trillion miles from home? Break out the duct tape.
@davidtherwhanger6795
@davidtherwhanger6795 Жыл бұрын
Redneck abducted by aliens. "I see whut ya prob'lem ez. Yur Fusion dohikki is out'ta whack with your Reaction Stabilizer thingamabob. But you get me a wire clothes hanger, a Coke can, and a roll of duct tape; I can git'ye az fur az Uranus." -parodied from Jeff Foxworthy.
@trentonarney6066
@trentonarney6066 Жыл бұрын
Don't forget your baling wire and bubble gum or JB weld.
@InquisitorMatthewAshcraft
@InquisitorMatthewAshcraft Жыл бұрын
WD-40 and a spanner always work too🤣
@AGTheOSHAViolationsCounter
@AGTheOSHAViolationsCounter Жыл бұрын
Well if it's a US military ship you can also just break out the peanut butter packages from MRE's(Meals Rejected by Ethiopians). As I've heard from friends the stuff works great for patching holes lol.
@AGTheOSHAViolationsCounter
@AGTheOSHAViolationsCounter Жыл бұрын
@@davidtherwhanger6795 Tootsie rolls?? My god man that's BRILLANT! lol
@kkrolik2106
@kkrolik2106 Жыл бұрын
In my opinion Oumuamua was best candidate for Damaged Spacecraft.
@jackochainsaw
@jackochainsaw Жыл бұрын
Was it damaged, or was it just doing a sneaky scan pass before heading off for its next destination?
@Pyriold
@Pyriold Жыл бұрын
Rosswell comes to mind. Hard to say if there is anything to it, but the official stories were pretty fishy.
@kkrolik2106
@kkrolik2106 Жыл бұрын
​@@jackochainsaw He have to low temperature to be active. Also if he try sneaky pass will no try behave so erratic he will try mimic normal profile like 2I/Borisov
@sidgar1
@sidgar1 Жыл бұрын
It could have been an unmanned alien probe that has gathered a buildup of ice from it's travel through space.
@kkrolik2106
@kkrolik2106 Жыл бұрын
@@sidgar1 Oumuamua is extremely rare natural formation, or common piece of tech junk. Both case are worth of sending probe after it.
@CubicApocalypse128
@CubicApocalypse128 Жыл бұрын
30:13 is literally the best use of that clip in the entire history of this channel.
@greggweber9967
@greggweber9967 Жыл бұрын
4:25 A version of the replicator was aboard the Space Battleship Yamato on the way to Iscandar.
@therealanyaku
@therealanyaku Жыл бұрын
Re: Saucer shaped spacecraft, you might want to take a look at the Genesis sample return mission capsule. I recall watching on TV as the Genesis capsule fluttered down and crash (the parachute didn't open). It looked cryingly much like a bad 50's monster movie saucer crash.
@Shatterverse
@Shatterverse Жыл бұрын
Given that that nuke that got dropped by accident in NC only failed to detonate because the 2nd or 3rd backup actually worked as intended, I don't think a ship having multiple backups in critical systems is all that unusual. I'd rather have triple or hextuple emergency backups on my _antimatter_ power plant systems than risk an oops all exploded.
@cannonfodder4376
@cannonfodder4376 Жыл бұрын
Only one SFIA will the talk of possibly cutting peoples heads off in a damaged ship be mentioned as a plausible means of ensuring survivors.😂😂 Yet another informative episode Isaac.
@M33f3r
@M33f3r Жыл бұрын
schlockmercenary is a good comic that has a bit of that in it.
@harbl99
@harbl99 Жыл бұрын
"Quick, to the emergency biostasis tanks!" "Erm. Why are these tanks only one cubic foot in volume." "No time to explain! Now hold still while I saw your head off."
@smorrow
@smorrow Жыл бұрын
3:44 Ships (the ocean-going kind) do have machine shops on them.
@randysmith9715
@randysmith9715 Жыл бұрын
Indeed; The USS Roosevelt (WW2 aircraft carrier) was undergoing a re-fit and they discovered a machine shop from the original construction of the ship that had been entirely walled in and forgotten. It was not on any of the blue prints.
@trentonarney6066
@trentonarney6066 Жыл бұрын
Ralts Bloodthorne's Behold Humanity series features the brain imprint download to solve the problem of people dying or being killed unexpectantly. He even has some of the downsides to that type of tech. It's a fun series when I want some entertainment that is pulp like.
@AGTheOSHAViolationsCounter
@AGTheOSHAViolationsCounter Жыл бұрын
The one thing I always found an interesting and neat concept in the Halo EU. Was how many Forerunner ships where actually mostly made of Hard Light. Which allowed them to be almost instantly reconfigured depending on situational need. It was a neat take on the "programmable matter" trope in sci-fi.
@tristanbackup2536
@tristanbackup2536 Жыл бұрын
Usually hardlight is made to be as a connector or support between forerunner structures or assets & using it as a weapon or defence like shields & projectiles. Nothing is purely made of hardlight given it needs energy to run, & a sh*ttonne of it. The metal alloys themselves they use for everything from their armours to halos are straight up memory matter nanomachines of sorts, far more reliable & less energy consumption/intensity.
@danieljryba
@danieljryba Жыл бұрын
In my long running D&D campaign, the PCs have owned the equivalent of an interstellar FedEx truck for quite some time and I think it's about to have some mechanical problems 😈
@danieljryba
@danieljryba Жыл бұрын
And yes, the first thing they did after clearing the bodies out of the cargo hold was stand back and basically say, "wow, we could fit SO MUCH contraband in this thing!"
@DarkVeghetta
@DarkVeghetta Жыл бұрын
@@danieljryba Ofc they did. I wouldn't expect anything less. Those kleptomaniacal little scamps.
@DerLaCroix1
@DerLaCroix1 Жыл бұрын
Theoretically, a single hand phaser has enough energy stored to keep Enterprise's life support going for days or weeks.
@clementvining2487
@clementvining2487 Жыл бұрын
I never saw that episode but I did see where it was enough for a shuddle life support. But on next generation not star trek enterprise.
@Lyarrah
@Lyarrah Жыл бұрын
every time you express surprise at things being done fast and cheap instead of well, I always envy your faith in humanity.
@dillonhillier
@dillonhillier 8 ай бұрын
Also shocking, considering he was in the army 😂😂
@thekingofcardboard
@thekingofcardboard Жыл бұрын
As much as we like to make fun of the systems on the enterprise breaking spectacularly, i have to admit the artificial gravity is very reliable.
@EuelBall
@EuelBall Жыл бұрын
"Now, if we could just make the rest of the ship work as well..."
@dixievfd55
@dixievfd55 Жыл бұрын
My favorite quote along those lines is from Star Trek Online. "Alpha Quadrant tech has too many redundancies. You have backups for your backups and emergency power always fails in an emergency." -Ydren
@zrebbesh
@zrebbesh Жыл бұрын
Main and Backup failure simultaneously is not a coincidence. The Backup fails because someone plugs it in right where the Main was without first understanding why the Main failed. So it's subject to the same overvoltage, vibration, mechanical stress, etc. that destroyed the main. The secondary backup is provided in hopes that an additional chance to understand the problem will not be wasted.
@jsbrads1
@jsbrads1 Жыл бұрын
Soda bottles are great for sealing holes in ships. The bottles hold in excess of 4 atmospheres of pressure safely, so would be great for 1 atm or less. Liquid inside is great at blocking radiation, and ice is a great insulator!
@dawsonwilliams546
@dawsonwilliams546 Жыл бұрын
i love the word "lithobraking" or, even better "lithobreaking"
@1KosovoJeSrbija1
@1KosovoJeSrbija1 Жыл бұрын
Haven't listened to one of these in a while. The Nostalgia hitting hard.
@alan2here
@alan2here Жыл бұрын
Crash mats (well named), if you knew you were going to crash you could make a crash mat, big sponge, laying down human sandwich.
@lawneymalbrough4309
@lawneymalbrough4309 Жыл бұрын
I like the idea of TV windows. They don't cause heat loss or heat gain and you can have each one connected to several cameras to give you different views of the outside world.
@maddhopps
@maddhopps Жыл бұрын
“When it rains it pours, and the weather in space is even crazier.” Isaac Arthur Love it.
@dansmith1661
@dansmith1661 Жыл бұрын
Please do one for haunted spaceships or alien ghosts.
@petersmythe6462
@petersmythe6462 Жыл бұрын
Regarding using standardized, off the shelf components in prototypes, this is 100% true. I have been told "if you're building an X plane, borrow your landing gear" by someone who does in fact build X planes.
@TalenGryphon
@TalenGryphon Жыл бұрын
When I was a child I had these books 'Terran Trade Authority Spacewreck: Ghostships and Derelicts of space. It was from sometime back in the 70's. I LOVED the illustrations and they were a Huge source of inspiration for me. This video reminded me of that
@scottmitchell1974
@scottmitchell1974 Жыл бұрын
How many levels of redundancy would you be comfortable with Arthur? What's the minimum?
@herbiehusker1889
@herbiehusker1889 Жыл бұрын
I'd say 3. With tools to manufacture new parts.
@jb76489
@jb76489 Жыл бұрын
6000 hulls
@davidtherwhanger6795
@davidtherwhanger6795 Жыл бұрын
Matryoshka world a light year across. With at least one coffee pot on each shell/ level.
@hunam1464
@hunam1464 Жыл бұрын
Personally, I would prefer backup replicators safely stashed away, not hooked up to any other system, that could get you back up and running relatively quickly.
@GleichUmDieEcke
@GleichUmDieEcke Жыл бұрын
20:44 When you love AR carry handles so much that you mount two on each rifle.
@TheBakedalaskajoe
@TheBakedalaskajoe Жыл бұрын
"litho braking" o yeah... that is when you reach full stop by smashing into a mountain. that 1 slayed me.
@bigdopamine9343
@bigdopamine9343 Жыл бұрын
The Enterprise would always lose life support before gravity. Which is strange because presumably the antigravity systems seem like they’d require a lot of power, and there’s a thousand people on a ship that could carry 10 thousand easy. So one expects they’d have some extra air. At least in the case of the Enterprise D.
@PatriciaOConnorBonsaiBalcony
@PatriciaOConnorBonsaiBalcony Жыл бұрын
"I'm sitting atop millions of parts all supplied by the lowest bidders"- John Glenn
@genericbackgroundcharacter8431
@genericbackgroundcharacter8431 Жыл бұрын
always remember guys to have your emergency roll of ducktape for any space ship repairs
@sidgar1
@sidgar1 Жыл бұрын
*duct tape
@daveharrison61
@daveharrison61 Жыл бұрын
@@sidgar1 both are correct (duck tape is a brand). It also works fairly well on sucking chest wounds if it's an emergency.
@greggweber9967
@greggweber9967 Жыл бұрын
2:23 Had a smile at "probably".
@Arkantos117
@Arkantos117 Жыл бұрын
Even if you have a printer backups still need to be in place for immediate replacement.
@arcadiaberger9204
@arcadiaberger9204 Жыл бұрын
It is funny how with centuries of technological development, Starfleet still hasn't rendered pyrotechnic circuit breakers obsolete.
@ZathrasParadox
@ZathrasParadox 2 ай бұрын
I've always found it funny that every episode of Star Trek when something breaks it spits rocks everywhere. As if the starship is made of rocks.
@reinux
@reinux Жыл бұрын
In the tech space there's a thing called "three point backups," where you actually do have a second backup, because the chances of a main disk and backup disk failing at the same time are surprisingly high, either because the primary backup is close to the main disk, or because it was manufactured by the same company and/or at around the same time.
@AJZulu
@AJZulu Жыл бұрын
Well. In Elite Dangerous, before the advent of FSD. If you crashed and you are stranded on a planet, you're basically effed. That is basically what happened to many stranded ships in the game.
@josephreagan9545
@josephreagan9545 Жыл бұрын
You have a main component, a back up component, a back up backup component, and then a secret back up that only a small handful of people know about just in case everything else is sabotaged.
@DigitalJedi
@DigitalJedi Жыл бұрын
One of the big things I've tried to do with my setting is that instead of just having a dedicated 3D printer, they have a "multi-axis tool motion system." That's a lot of words to say it moves the tool its using around in 3D space. This means that with a decent tool changer and swappable build platforms, it can be a 3D printer, plasma cutter, CNC mill, or PCB printer. It's a bit out there and sounds like sci-fi handwavium, but these sorts of tools are already in active development for industrial prototyping applications.
@kevink1575
@kevink1575 Жыл бұрын
Maybe the alleged "crashed" ships are more like "gifts".
@petersmythe6462
@petersmythe6462 Жыл бұрын
I think ST ships break so often there is not really a backup. There is redundancy. Reminds me of a Kerbal RP-1 rocket I made. Middle stage had engine failures every flight and every sim, but it was ok because it had 7 engines in a redundant configuration and the chances that all of them fail before the fuel runs out is very low.
@greggweber9967
@greggweber9967 Жыл бұрын
8:10 Standardized isn't normal ln big ships like the Iowa class Battleships. The four we have has different Floorplans. I don't know about the Liberty Ships. Certainly as they learned over time.
@DJRonnieG
@DJRonnieG Жыл бұрын
It is my hope that future on-demand fabrication equipment will consist of 3D printers chained together by conveyor belt to CNC, injection molding, and automated sanding (post-processing) machines.
@ColdHawk
@ColdHawk Жыл бұрын
Spoken like a person who has spent a lot of time with close cutting snippers.
@DJRonnieG
@DJRonnieG Жыл бұрын
@@ColdHawk you know it! Sandpaper too... it would also be cool if a robotic/automatic painting or airbrhsher were attached to that conveyor belt.
@brookestephen
@brookestephen Жыл бұрын
really important: 3d printing computer chips. Once we can do this, we're set.
@youngimperialistmkii
@youngimperialistmkii Жыл бұрын
I love that line from O'Brien about the need for a secondary backup.😊
@aaronreys4174
@aaronreys4174 Жыл бұрын
Love the detailed info of the narrator
@Enkaptaton
@Enkaptaton Жыл бұрын
To really drive an extraterrestrial civilization insane, all we have to do is send them the Windows Vista source code
@TheWeatherbuff
@TheWeatherbuff Жыл бұрын
Where would we be without that mind of yours, Isaac? If we ever perfect cloning, I'm nominating you to be one of the first. We need more "smarts" in this world! Thank you, Sir.
@Sir_Uncle_Ned
@Sir_Uncle_Ned Жыл бұрын
One thing I never get with Star Trek is that every damn time the core ejection mechanism is needed, it's the first thing to fail. And they never install a backup.
@icecold9511
@icecold9511 Жыл бұрын
There is one aspect where artificial gravity would be used, based on Babylon 5. A spin gravity ship has to be designed around this, compromising elsewhere in design. If energy isn't a significant issue, AG can let you shape a craft for other aspects.
@roadtrippin2781
@roadtrippin2781 Жыл бұрын
I just want to say kudos for recording your own voiceovers!
@jacksavere6988
@jacksavere6988 Жыл бұрын
Dammit I grabbed a drink but not a snack 😰
@smorrow
@smorrow Жыл бұрын
24:00ish, the optical mouse DID replace all other computer mice AND there isn't a subculture dedicated to saying that one of the old ways was better (which is there seemingly always is, in computing).
@supplychainoperationsresearch
@supplychainoperationsresearch Жыл бұрын
We'd all definitely love it to know more about promissory space technology! please make this series!
@Yukimaru0
@Yukimaru0 Жыл бұрын
At some point the ability to make new parts isn't a matter of having the required tools either but the required materials. So not only do you need to have a whole manufacturing component to your ship capable of making literally anything but you'll need to bring stuff for resource gathering as well.
@weregoat529
@weregoat529 Жыл бұрын
Ever played the Star Trek: Voyager drinking game? You take a shot every time someone says "We've lost warp power!" Guaranteed blackout drunk within minutes.
@TheEvilmooseofdoom
@TheEvilmooseofdoom Жыл бұрын
You get drunker if you use "subspace anomaly"... :P
@ZMacZ
@ZMacZ Жыл бұрын
26:35 As the object is large enough, the pressure underneath that's being built up, and yields upforce on the hull by 100.000 Newtons per square meter per bar of pressure. So basically if the object is large enough, to dissallow dissipation of said pressure, it could receive enough counter force to signgificantly slow it down, before impact, especially when 10 or 100 bar pressure is generated. 100 bar of caught up pressure means you can stack solid steel on top worth 1 million kg, which corresponds to a 128 meters solid steel beam from on 1 m3, more than sufficient to reduce the speed of a falling star destroyer. And yes, you can survive that with a good seat and belt, since the first to give way is the ground and the structure of the ship, as both in conjunction impart deceleration on you, for as long as you're not directly involved in cushioning that impact. This also relates directly to size, for a bigger ship allows for less sudden deceleration, with more crumpling. This, however is excluded for ships who's structural stability far exceeds certain specs. They would not crumple during impact, and thus greatly increase the maximum deceleration value, unless the ground would make up the difference by giving way more to the undeformable material..
@SebSenseGreen
@SebSenseGreen Жыл бұрын
I don't know why but the first thing that came to my mind when I started the video is the movie "Sphere": "Norman Goodman : What is it, Harry? Dr. Harry Adams : Take a look. It's chipped! Captain Harold C. Barnes : Alright, it's chipped - so what? Dr. Harry Adams : Well I thought you said this thing wouldn't damage when it crashed and that this titanium alloy was so superstrong there's no way you can hurt it. Captain Harold C. Barnes : I did. Dr. Harry Adams : So how come it chips when this scientist just bangs on it with a hammer?"
@zurn56
@zurn56 Жыл бұрын
I can see a crew making videos going over repairs, talking about problems on the ship, telling stories or even acting out plays. The crew would have years or decades to kill time and it would help future generations, the next 3 ship crews or even just for historical records.
@2hu235
@2hu235 Жыл бұрын
13:58 "If you don't have power, you need to get it." When Isaac Arthur becomes Vergil
@mustlovedragons8047
@mustlovedragons8047 Жыл бұрын
DS9/LOTR Crossover: What about the back up? We allready have a back up. Yes, but what about Second back up?
@wpatrickw2012
@wpatrickw2012 10 ай бұрын
Given that Starfleet ships are involved in fairly frequent combat, having secondary backup systems is reasonable.
@stardolphin2
@stardolphin2 Жыл бұрын
"This looks like one of the old style cargo containers. If they crashed, then where's the rest of their ship...?"
@gungasc
@gungasc Жыл бұрын
Even with 3D technology you would have to stop by a planet to get more resources, that alone could take years to mine and if there’s nothing edible on said planet it could mean the end.
@jes2294
@jes2294 Жыл бұрын
Amazing. I remember when you had just a few thousand subscribers. Your speaking has improved so much
@hoggif
@hoggif Жыл бұрын
A long jurney made me think of how one can recycle enough material. Usual stuff like air and water is simple, but what you do with any mechanical parts that wear (say metal that eventually produces metal dust in lubrication)? Or what to do with clothes, non wearable or once that wear, how to make new clothes from dust wearing made? For a very very long journey you need either lots of spares are extremely high level of recycling (or a combination). I don't normally think of recycling dust from dead skin or dust from clothes. Both can be biodegradeable and recycled that way of course but that forces you to lot of material choices to make suitably.
@Daniel-se3zm
@Daniel-se3zm Жыл бұрын
I love Isaac Arthur's videos! They're the best!
@mattstorm360
@mattstorm360 Жыл бұрын
So, you think it's possible we live in a science fiction episode? Actually, now that i think about it, why do scientists have a monopoly on simulations? Media could have that technology too and create multiple shows based on that universe or generated BY that universe. I think we can all agree that Isaac Arthur is pretty great and more often then not his talk about his life in the military when talking about the first rule of warfare. Creating a universe is a complex way to create AI generated content but all that complexity can lead to some pretty great stuff. So maybe it's worth it. I say it is.
@JulianDanzerHAL9001
@JulianDanzerHAL9001 Жыл бұрын
28:30 the probability compariso nis usually more a reference to competence as in it's hard to imagine someone can invent the kind of propulsion needed for practical interstelalr travel but at the same time be incapable of building and pilotign an airplane that cna fly through a desert for afew miles without crashing
@bobsaggat
@bobsaggat Жыл бұрын
We gotta get Arthur to cover the roswell crash
@popuptoaster
@popuptoaster Жыл бұрын
Boats are a better analogue to spaceships than planes or cars, smaller boats tend to carry radios if not going far or backups based on how far from help they will be taken, until they get big enough to carry enough crew that you can have crewmembers that can repair almost anything or get help sent to you. Mine has an electric motor that can be powered by a generator and drive the propshaft through a belt because it only has a single engine, multiple engines will usually be more useful until you get to the cargo ships with the gigantic single engines, they rely on being able to drift and not be near enough to hit anything until they can be fixed, or, if they ARE near enough to hit things there will generally also be tugs close enough to help them.
@colinbarnard6512
@colinbarnard6512 Жыл бұрын
SCUBA Diving Mnemonic Device: 'Two is one, and one is none'. Redundancy forever! The Shuttle had 5 flight deck comps, all of which had to agree. Orion, I understand, has 4, for the same reasons. 'Freezing Tubes' (a la LOS) is one form of imaginary suspended animation, unless you are a 30 year old frozen embryo. 'Stasis Boxes', a la Larry Niven and various Trek Episodes, is NOT freezing. Stasis uses electromagnetic force fields to suspend all molecular activity. In some narratives, 'stasis' involves a narrow time bubble on freeze-frame. Trek's Transporter originally placed the Transportee in stasis so that the system can scan the molecular pattern so as to reassemble it at the destination point. The perfect comprehensive Trek episode demonstrating this is Larry Niven's 'Slaver Weapon', aired in 1974. That's the episode where the Kzinti cross over, not to be 'replicated' until Star Trek Picard's 1st Season. All the above being said, Mr. Arthur knows his stuff. LLAP! BTW, Dorothy Fontana's 'Yesteryear' invalidates the 3 JJ Abrahms films, the negatives of which should be burned, and all copies recalled and destroyed, never to be talked about at any legit Trekcon.
@YagabodooN
@YagabodooN Жыл бұрын
A crashed ship on a primitive world may actually be a warship that has severe battle damage. Crash somewhere habitable or be stranded in space forever.
@hifartingoctopuss
@hifartingoctopuss Жыл бұрын
Bulletproof batteries reminds me of the explosive armour on tanks. The batteries wouldn't have to be fully bulletproof if they where exploding or shedding layers as they absorbed or deflected damage, and getting hit would be more like a reduction in hit points eventually resulting in shutdown or self destruction.
@hopeforescape884
@hopeforescape884 Жыл бұрын
Having multiple back-ups is pretty common IRL in aircrafts, I think it might even be mandated by law.
@taqyon
@taqyon 9 ай бұрын
After 46 years, Voyager 1 finally broke down (yesterday?). That's an incredible record. Most of the NASA rovers have far outlived their designed lifetime.That's more I can say for any Toyota made ever. Spaceships seem pretty reliable.
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