Islam Makhachev is the REAL P4P KING, not Jon Jones

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I break down why Islam Makhachev is the pound for pound number one fighter in the world over Jon Jones, and why Dana White is wrong with his take

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@emanm6571
@emanm6571 3 ай бұрын
Islam is the P4P. What a fighter.
@fahadguiapal4700
@fahadguiapal4700 3 ай бұрын
Islam is a true p4p for me...
@orpheus1662
@orpheus1662 3 ай бұрын
Jones ducked Francis for three years
@chiefawesomeness
@chiefawesomeness 3 ай бұрын
I’m still mad people aren’t bringing that truth up more
@BenT800
@BenT800 3 ай бұрын
If Stipe could beat Francis, don't you think Jon would to
@aliholic9102
@aliholic9102 3 ай бұрын
Yeah Islam Is Real P4P #1👑, Sorry Dana
@truthseeker96
@truthseeker96 3 ай бұрын
Jon Jones has 1 fight in 4 years. Islam has 8 wins in 3 years
@penyebarberita02
@penyebarberita02 3 ай бұрын
😂😅🤣
@simplyfitness892
@simplyfitness892 3 ай бұрын
Bit of a bias comparison, especially considering John has had 16 title fights while Islam has had 4….. two of them being volk, one he arguably lost and another which volk was dumb an took it on super short notice. I definitely think Islam can become the pfp number 1 but saying that now we are getting a little ahead of ourselves.
@Mohammed_Rehan81
@Mohammed_Rehan81 3 ай бұрын
​@@simplyfitness892 islam is already p4p number 1 what are you on about??
@فهدعبدالعزيز-ب2ع
@فهدعبدالعزيز-ب2ع 3 ай бұрын
@@simplyfitness892Jon jones isn’t the p4p based on recent performances, he shouldn’t be the p4p number 1.
@awex7
@awex7 3 ай бұрын
@@simplyfitness892 what has 16 title fights got to do with p4p? this isnt about your whole career its about recent wins. why do you casuals not be able to understand this. should mike tyson be the p4p in boxing because he is now considered active? no because his dominance was years ago. p4p is about right now. its not GOAT status
@iwanwandiana4922
@iwanwandiana4922 3 ай бұрын
I'm agree Islam makhchev is P4P
@quintonlarson5346
@quintonlarson5346 3 ай бұрын
Bro ive been saying this since Francis left!
@cyclonus01
@cyclonus01 3 ай бұрын
Need to see Islam vs Arman. So many people are saying Arman will beat him. Arman won a split decision against charles fighting a choke at the end if the fight. If Islam finishes Arman, there will be no more debate. MSG or Abu Dhabi this year please.
@LoxMMA
@LoxMMA 3 ай бұрын
Couldn't agree more!! That's my most looked forward to fight in the UFC right now. If Islam beats Arman I would rank him as the GOAT at LW. Arman has a great skill set to compete with Islam, but I do favor Islam to win that one. His striking is just too good for Arman IMO
@cyclonus01
@cyclonus01 3 ай бұрын
@LoxMMA Arman also lost to Gamrot and I think Gamrot is the most overrated fighter on the roster.
@Akakikukaku
@Akakikukaku 3 ай бұрын
GOAT : Successful career P4P : *Current* best fighter in the world, right now, and will be removed from the standings when the fighter retire
@LoxMMA
@LoxMMA 3 ай бұрын
Perfect distinction....There's a separation between GOAT and P4P. Of course Jon Jones is higher than Islam Makhachev on the greatest of all time list, but CURRENT form Islam is looking a lot better than current Jon Jones
@EmreDemirkayaLoves
@EmreDemirkayaLoves 3 ай бұрын
Best Fighter in the World p4p #1 🏆 I Eati - I Sleepi - and I Traini 😎 - Islam Makhachev
@EmreDemirkayaLoves
@EmreDemirkayaLoves 3 ай бұрын
Most people forgot that his 1st fight against Volkanofski he fought for the p4p & Volk CC. Islam won. They NEVER put him in the P4P #1 He didn't moan ... because he knew that it was not a good performance. That's just Elite
@jab_ali
@jab_ali 3 ай бұрын
LW is the most competitive compared to other classes. dominating LW means king of P4P
@LoxMMA
@LoxMMA 3 ай бұрын
Great point! 155 has been much harder to dominate than 205 historically. Thats probably why the title defense record is only 3
@cyclonus01
@cyclonus01 3 ай бұрын
Reyes and Santos arguably beat Jones. Jones also had that crazy illegal knee on Smith.
@BenT800
@BenT800 3 ай бұрын
Reyes yes, Santos? Now you're taking a piss
@imrazali6005
@imrazali6005 3 ай бұрын
I don't think Jon Jones resume is as impressive as people think look at the age differences and between some of of the people he fought he was 24 entering his prime when Machida was like 33 leaving his prime
@LoxMMA
@LoxMMA 3 ай бұрын
He first entered the title picture at the perfect time….A lot of those legends were on their way out of the game like you said. Maybe that’d make a good video breaking down how good Jon’s resume actually was? 🤔
@claudemaggard7162
@claudemaggard7162 3 ай бұрын
Ya but he still ran thru them all.
@imrazali6005
@imrazali6005 3 ай бұрын
@@LoxMMA yea when he fought Alex and Dominick 2 guys his size and age he had far more issues. Rampage Jackson is like 9 years older , so is DC n DC is smaller, Lyoto is like 8 or 9 years older, Shogun 9 years older. When JDS and Cain fought they were in same age range. Khabib 3 title defense were against 3 guys in his age group Dustin Justin and Connor were all born like 88 89 so we saw Khabib destroy those guys in their absolute prime.
@invincible____67
@invincible____67 2 ай бұрын
Yes against middleweights and older guys, and now he's running from a young Tom Aspinall​@@claudemaggard7162
@minegamerpro1308
@minegamerpro1308 3 ай бұрын
even assuming jon is still active right now and we judge solely from their last 5 fight, islam outbox arguably the best boxer in ufc, submitted the best submission artist of all time, win a decision against p4p number 1 and ko'd that same guy easily after having a better gameplan meanwhile Jon's last 5 is him submitting a guy who got out wrestled by a crippled ngannou, barely won against reyes if even, fail to finish Anthony smith, barely win against thiago santos there is absolutely no way you could argue that the jon from 2019-2024 is more skilled than current islam, besides "if both were locked in a room, jon would be the one to come out alive", which, rather than supporting Jon's case for being p4p number 1, just shows how low your comprehensive ability is
@nme_mma
@nme_mma 3 ай бұрын
Islam is thepfp#1 and is heading into GOAT status. His mentality is is that of a pfp fighter. JJ will duck his way into retirement and the only people who will this he is the Goat will be the causals who don't know better. There is no amount of gaslighting Dana can do to convince us JJ is the pfp#1, it's complete nonsense.
@snake0911
@snake0911 3 ай бұрын
Remember how people were anointing Charles LW Goat with a 33-8 record after beating Chandler/Dustin/Justin? Yet those same people are not calling Islam LW GOAT with a 26-1 record after beating Olivera/Volk/Volk/Dustin. The biased is crazy.
@LoxMMA
@LoxMMA 3 ай бұрын
IMO Islam is just one fight away from being the LW GOAT bc he’d have the title defense record and the best resume at 155. Volk 2x, Oliveira, Dustin, Arman, is actually insane
@-_XD
@-_XD 3 ай бұрын
if he wins 3 more times in a row he’ll be UFC GOAT with longest win streak of 17
@majidalfifi
@majidalfifi 3 ай бұрын
Dana’s argument: put JJ in a room with another man, JJ comes out 😂
@LoxMMA
@LoxMMA 3 ай бұрын
Unless of course that man is Tom Aspinall 😜
@majidalfifi
@majidalfifi 3 ай бұрын
@@LoxMMA Hahaha true
@getroasted7907
@getroasted7907 3 ай бұрын
@@LoxMMA unless you have a Jon sized volk, MM, Islam or even sean
@majidalfifi
@majidalfifi 3 ай бұрын
@@getroasted7907 exactly that is what p4p is supposed to mean
@Manzoor99
@Manzoor99 3 ай бұрын
Good
@aliyoun2476
@aliyoun2476 3 ай бұрын
Islam p4p .. No.1🎉snakies for haters😂
@abcfx7391
@abcfx7391 3 ай бұрын
Islam is P4P and the Goat. Jon Jones fought cans, and there was no competition in the LH division. Pereira would smoke prime Jon Jones.
@SohanurRSajib
@SohanurRSajib 3 ай бұрын
L take man! there are no valid p4p conversation if you doesn't include on paper smith
@LoxMMA
@LoxMMA 3 ай бұрын
This is why I'll never be one of the pros....Good one mate🤣
@penyebarberita02
@penyebarberita02 3 ай бұрын
Dana is just looking for a stage. 😅😂🤣
@LoxMMA
@LoxMMA 3 ай бұрын
Probably just trying to hype up that clown show that is Jon Jones vs Stipe Miocic.....
@penyebarberita02
@penyebarberita02 3 ай бұрын
Jon Jones is always trying to escape Stipe Miocic. 😅😂🤣
@DrevonRay
@DrevonRay 3 ай бұрын
Imagine everybody else matchup for title only for you to have to fight the only 3 people that are definitively better than you all of which are masters of opposing styles making them on top of elite talent a bad match up for you as well feels bad tbh if anyone deserved a belt it would be Dustin
@LoxMMA
@LoxMMA 3 ай бұрын
Poor Dustin just had to run into the 3 greatest lightweights of all time….feelsbadman ☹️
@ErinJeanette
@ErinJeanette 3 ай бұрын
Jon Gay Jones need to live his truth
@BenT800
@BenT800 3 ай бұрын
He has 3 kids dawg
@ErinJeanette
@ErinJeanette 3 ай бұрын
@@BenT800 because closeted gay dudes don't have kids and marriages and beards isn't a term for this.
@BenT800
@BenT800 3 ай бұрын
@@ErinJeanette Said a fat man with a red beard. Guru always does this with his antics but okay
@mitkothemacedonian
@mitkothemacedonian 3 ай бұрын
Yes, one hundred percent
@claudemaggard7162
@claudemaggard7162 3 ай бұрын
Islam is my favorite fighter and jones is still pfp #1
@claudemaggard7162
@claudemaggard7162 3 ай бұрын
Even kabibs dad said no one can beat jon jones. Before he died.
@BoriQua602
@BoriQua602 3 ай бұрын
Islam is p4p#1
@DanMan-we9qf
@DanMan-we9qf 3 ай бұрын
Surely you need to be a champion in at least 2 different weight class before you can even be considered in the conversation for p4p? Can anyone even argue with that, I don't see how
@LoxMMA
@LoxMMA 3 ай бұрын
I think that’s a fair point. In most other circumstances you’ll see the double champ be the P4P number 1. What really goes against Jon is his inactivity though. Since his last fight at 205, Islam has had 8 fights. If Jon had been continuing to defend his 205 belt and then move up to heavyweight Jon would likely still be P4P number 1. Taking those 3 years off really impacts how you rank him imo
@Raigazero1
@Raigazero1 3 ай бұрын
So by your standard, conor should be in those p4p? Lol
@koalawithchaingun53
@koalawithchaingun53 3 ай бұрын
That’s nonsense. That’s like saying Anderson Silva shouldn’t have been P4P?
@Gyros-Judo
@Gyros-Judo 3 ай бұрын
remind me again how many belts did Volk have when he was p4p#1?
@DanMan-we9qf
@DanMan-we9qf 3 ай бұрын
Every case is different you use the same rule, but surely a weight bully fighting people a lot smaller than himself most of the time? it's a bit contradictory to say p4p.
@profh9382
@profh9382 3 ай бұрын
Absolutely, fought 5 P4P fighters and beat #1,2,3 P4P and beat them all while Juicehead Jon fought 1 fight in the same time💥💥💥 Islam is the GOAT 🐐. Nobody will ever do this again.
@BenT800
@BenT800 3 ай бұрын
Lol, if you would ask any fan 5 weeks ago "Who is the best P4P?" Everyone would pick Jones but okay
@koalawithchaingun53
@koalawithchaingun53 3 ай бұрын
Who is this “everyone”? Many people had Makhachev P4P after Volk 1, and then pretty much “everyone” after Volk 2.
@BenT800
@BenT800 3 ай бұрын
@@koalawithchaingun53 Dawg, the last 2 months Jones was revered
@sonyemerson6675
@sonyemerson6675 3 ай бұрын
wow lots of Muslims here in comment.
@atomicpunk2360
@atomicpunk2360 3 ай бұрын
Alex Pereira should be #1
@LoxMMA
@LoxMMA 3 ай бұрын
You think because of his success at multiple weight classes? I’d have him as a clear number 2 IMO. I don’t know why the UFC has him at 4 when he’s the only one who’s actually competed up a weight class lol
@atomicpunk2360
@atomicpunk2360 3 ай бұрын
@@LoxMMA I just think his most recent wins are better than Islam’s. I say Islam is probs #2, maybe #3 if you think Leon’s wins are better. I just feel like while Islam has beaten some solid competition, there are some asterisks to his recent streak. A controversial win against Volk the first time, and the second time he fought a worse version who fought on short notice. Also his win streak has several short notice fights too, which obviously favors him. (Not saying the results would’ve been different per se, but it still makes it easier for him) Pereira on the other hand has beaten multiple champs across two weight classes. I just think his wins have more value to them than Islam’s. Edit: forgot to mention because Islam glazers love to say how he beat the P4P #1 but also forget to mention that is also a man half his size from a lighter weight class, who, again, debatably won the first time, or at the very least, gave Islam the worst looking win he’s ever had.
@koalawithchaingun53
@koalawithchaingun53 3 ай бұрын
Yeah, nah. He lost his most recent fight to Izzy, got split against Jan, and even Poirier is much better on a resume than Jamahal Hill, let alone Volk or Oliveira.
@RyanG0899
@RyanG0899 3 ай бұрын
Neither of them are
@Scyreina
@Scyreina 3 ай бұрын
LOL islams mentor already admitting that he wouldnt beat jon and islam cant beat khabib either
@thedoingthedoing8619
@thedoingthedoing8619 3 ай бұрын
that's not what p4p means u smooth brain. When Volkanovski was #1 p4p it didn't mean Volk can beat Jon Jones
@BannerIncredibleHulk
@BannerIncredibleHulk 3 ай бұрын
No he's not.
@erfanafsharmoghaddam
@erfanafsharmoghaddam 3 ай бұрын
Womp womp
@lowang9708
@lowang9708 3 ай бұрын
Even dana himself would be laughing at how gullible you are because he himself only said it to promote Jon vs Stipe.
@Dgreatest32
@Dgreatest32 3 ай бұрын
Lmao islam not p4p
@syedahrazahmed7542
@syedahrazahmed7542 3 ай бұрын
kid XD
@yuruichi4691
@yuruichi4691 3 ай бұрын
kid who watch youtube highlights
@Gyros-Judo
@Gyros-Judo 3 ай бұрын
check the rankings then come back son
@getroasted7907
@getroasted7907 3 ай бұрын
rage bait
@johnnydominggus7072
@johnnydominggus7072 3 ай бұрын
ur fucking black face in P4P...
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