Islamic Apologetics Ep. 4 - The Argument from Perfect Preservation

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CIRA International

CIRA International

3 жыл бұрын

Has the Quran been perfectly perserved, unchanged from the time it was delivered to Muhammad? Muslims scholars claim that this is true. But can that claim stand up to the scrutiny of apologetic argument? Where there other Qurans? Are there versions of the Quran today?
Islamic scholars, like those of Christianity, believe that it is possible, through apologetics, to show that the claims of Islam and the Quran are true. In this series, Al Fadi and David Wood explore some of the logical arguments that Muslims use to prove Islam's truth to believers and defend it against attacks from non-believers.
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@rebeccasamuel1987
@rebeccasamuel1987 3 жыл бұрын
Just had a discussion with a Muslim. The sources quoted here were very helpful to show him that verses are missing in the Quran. Praying he will receive the truth and find Jesus.
@jesuschristisgod3965
@jesuschristisgod3965 3 жыл бұрын
Amen in JESUS holy and almighty name
@jxb4469
@jxb4469 11 ай бұрын
we'll i bet he found jesus but he's not a god
@dianamv1618
@dianamv1618 8 ай бұрын
@@jxb4469 lo siento por ti.☦
@CatholicElijah
@CatholicElijah 7 ай бұрын
Jesus is God Almighty@@jxb4469
@robertbuckey6517
@robertbuckey6517 5 ай бұрын
​@@jxb4469he's not a god. He is God.
@sower9973
@sower9973 3 жыл бұрын
What if one of those missing verses were to contain- 'we are just kidding, we are the devils who lead you astray for the pleasure and convenience of the prophet'. 🤔
@renade7131
@renade7131 3 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@christopherwami2006
@christopherwami2006 2 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@MrMirville
@MrMirville 2 жыл бұрын
Actually there wEre such verses and their mention is part and parcel of the Arabic para-Islamic tradition : they are called the Satanic verses where non-Islamic deities such as el Üzza, pretending to be Allah's daughter, do intervene to fool the prophet and laugh at his gullibility. Rushdie was officially granted a death fatwa by the government of Iran for having disclosed that well-known secret among Arabs to Westerners, but nobody among the terrorists that roam about India and England judged him worth of carrying out that order.
@happyexmussie7085
@happyexmussie7085 2 жыл бұрын
I think that’s the Book of Mormon. Owahhhh
@ebrahimjaved364
@ebrahimjaved364 2 жыл бұрын
Jalwaye ardo samaa. Dilhlake hay nature bhi chup. Qul huval vo laa ilah keh kar paighambar bhichup. Bahes Us ki zaat me kio kar raha hay falsafi. Aise aise chup hain ye hota nahi is par bhi chup. Akbar ilah aabadi.
@darylhoyt5012
@darylhoyt5012 3 жыл бұрын
Al Fadi and David Wood: Brilliant series concept...AND the gentle-spirited approach is sure to add to the weight of the profoundly significant material you are working through. Thank you to you each!
@farookdinaully8029
@farookdinaully8029 3 жыл бұрын
Al Fadi and David Wood the Abu Lahab and Abu Jahl of Islam. They both of horrible death.
@doyinsony7563
@doyinsony7563 3 жыл бұрын
The "Holey" Qur'an. There are holes in the narrative.
@sparkle4223
@sparkle4223 3 жыл бұрын
@Darkened Rationalist interesting, what if one should ask the imam at the mosque about this? What would he say
@sparkle4223
@sparkle4223 3 жыл бұрын
@Darkened Rationalist they all gets deleted... Try to not write my surname.
@sparkle4223
@sparkle4223 3 жыл бұрын
@Darkened Rationalist I find it stupid to blindly trust them, when proofs all over the place with internet
@commentfreely5443
@commentfreely5443 3 жыл бұрын
islam - we've burnt 30,000 different qurans and there's still differences between them until 1970, where we finally standardized it.
@sparkle4223
@sparkle4223 3 жыл бұрын
@Darkened Rationalist you are a vise man!
@puresounds5426
@puresounds5426 3 жыл бұрын
The embarrassing holes in the Quran.
@omarrphillips9710
@omarrphillips9710 3 жыл бұрын
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@jasmineflower2495
@jasmineflower2495 3 жыл бұрын
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@jasmineflower2495
@jasmineflower2495 3 жыл бұрын
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@jasmineflower2495
@jasmineflower2495 3 жыл бұрын
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@jasmineflower2495
@jasmineflower2495 3 жыл бұрын
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@olusegunjuba5142
@olusegunjuba5142 3 жыл бұрын
Can you imagine that we have professors and PHDs who are Muslims and are propagating this religion. Whether the the Quran has been perfectly preserved or not, the truth is that the Allah of the Quran and the God of the Bible are not the same. They are contrary. Therefore, it is either both of them are wrong or one of them is wrong and the other true. Elijah said; "the God that answers by fire He is the LORD". From my simple understanding, the God of the Bible is the true LORD of all. He is the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. Whoever contradicts that is a LIAR. The Allah of the Quran contradicts it.
@emm6502
@emm6502 3 жыл бұрын
Thankyou so much. This and Act 17 apologetics have now become my apologetic classes. This is indeed very helpful especially in regions where such classes are not easy to come by. God Bless you and increase your wisdom!...
@leod.1415
@leod.1415 3 жыл бұрын
Wait.. where are all the muslims that usually have so say something in the comment section? Oh right, there's nothing left to disagree anymore!! Thanks to you guys for your work from an ex Muslim! 🙏
@angeliquaserenity5009
@angeliquaserenity5009 3 жыл бұрын
Next time I don't do my homework, I can tell my teacher my Sheep ate it. LOL.
@abdullahel-salihi1588
@abdullahel-salihi1588 2 жыл бұрын
ut the difference is that you are here telling a lie to your mother, and you may be telling the truth if you live on the farm, because if you live in the city, for example, and there are no sheep, then your saying this will be a cause for ridicule, but if you say that, for example, my dog ​​ate it or, for example, burned it by mistake, Your words will be realistic according to where you live. This is if the hadith is a “sahih” hadith, not every hadith mentioned in the books is true, this is taught by the youngest student studying Islamic law, wake up, David washes your brain with lies
@papamatthi
@papamatthi 3 жыл бұрын
Great episode! Thanks for your work!
@zahraberserkexshiatruthseeker1
@zahraberserkexshiatruthseeker1 3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant and honest. Salutations to you both.
@mpdcuk
@mpdcuk 3 жыл бұрын
David Wood’s friend CL Edwards went back to Islam because he realised it’s the truth. Nobody forced him or threatened him. 🤭😂
@zahraberserkexshiatruthseeker1
@zahraberserkexshiatruthseeker1 3 жыл бұрын
@@mpdcuk what Islam? Which Islam? The Islam that makes Muslims say Shias are disbelievers and polytheists?
@echoromeo384
@echoromeo384 3 жыл бұрын
@@mpdcuk some people are just retarded, you can't help everyone. There's still mentally ill among us, and the blind brainwashed people following an illiterate pedophilic child rapist are among them. Some prefer to keep there eyes closed.
@dilshadm8060
@dilshadm8060 3 жыл бұрын
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@dilshadm8060
@dilshadm8060 3 жыл бұрын
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@dtshotme
@dtshotme Жыл бұрын
Just had an instagram exchange with an Arabic speaking Muslim. He started out nice, said we should put aside the small details that divide us. I said Jesus is God. He responded with paragraphs mocking me personally & anyone who believes in the flawed Bible. “Small details” 😅
@dianamv1618
@dianamv1618 8 ай бұрын
No quiero reírme de una situación así pero sí es gracioso.😅
@naimahsarker6860
@naimahsarker6860 3 жыл бұрын
God bless both of you more and more
@yesyoureright
@yesyoureright 3 жыл бұрын
Read the Bible. And you'll through it away. Amnon and tamar second samuel verse 13 chapter 6. A brother raping his sister. Wtf. evilbible.com check it out.
@yesyoureright
@yesyoureright 3 жыл бұрын
@borrowed tomb a story of a brother raping his sister that has no relevance in a book of GOD. Do you know which religion has the epidemic of brothers raping there sister's? I'll give you one guess. Begins with c ends with y.
@mpdcuk
@mpdcuk 3 жыл бұрын
David Wood’s friend CL Edwards went back to Islam because he realised it’s the truth. Nobody forced him or threatened him. 🤭😂
@yesyoureright
@yesyoureright 3 жыл бұрын
@borrowed tomb no o ez interested in what you believe. It's not in Islam where there's an epidemic of child abuse in the congregation and in the church by pastor's and priests. As for your reply quite clearly you haven't read the translation of the Quran no where does it say any such thing. But in the Bible rape child rape incest. But why would you know that? Like lost Christians they listen to pedophile priests and don't even bother to read the Bible. By the way your claim on amnon and tamar as a message not to? Nope no where dies it say don't do this. Probably why the highest rate of incest is in Christianity.
@jasmineflower2495
@jasmineflower2495 3 жыл бұрын
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@jamalkhan3708
@jamalkhan3708 3 жыл бұрын
Wow this is very informative👌 thank you for showing 🙏
@namyohorengekyo1882
@namyohorengekyo1882 3 жыл бұрын
I learned a lot from David wood He is truthful and honest knowledgeable
@khalidadawran1900
@khalidadawran1900 2 жыл бұрын
If you are seeking the truth, please don’t follow David, he is a Dvail
@mikegreen2229
@mikegreen2229 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve been born again as of Nov. 2018. I always believed in God and became a lukewarm Christian over time. I did shrooms, drank, but mostly smoked pot everyday. I look back and can’t believe how patient Jesus has been waiting for me (I’m 40). I have been saved by an angel or Jesus (not sure at the time) at least twice, but possibly 3 times. A voice told me to let off the gas pedal when I was going through an intersection, as soon as I did, a truck blew a stop sign that would have killed me. I also fell asleep at the wheel another time and WOKE up while driving sitting upright and very much positioned like a robot. I ended up on the other side of town somehow! Fell into a pool’s deep end as a child, somehow my mother knew to check on me and pulled me out. I had another experience where I was praying about a relative that was brutally murdered and burned alive years prior. I was HIT like a sledgehammer with unexplainable peace and joy. Instantly tears poured out of my eyes and I had the breath sucked out of me, totally winded. It was like I was experiencing the joy of heaven but my human body could not handle it! I also experienced an interaction with several demons in the basement of a psychic lady’s house who summoned them and spoke to them nightly. The fear and anger I felt as their eyes pierced my soul was like nothing of this earth......,over and over and over Jesus was calling me!!! I was too much of a fool to notice, even though I believed in Him! In November of 2018, after a minor argument with my fiancée, I heard a demon’s voice talk to me telepathically in my mind- “I hate you, I’ll kill you and tear your family apart.” With the most conviction in my soul I commanded that thing to leave my house in the name of Jesus Christ. Every room in the house I yelled at it. I felt our Lord blast through my house and beat those things down! Whoosh gone! I prayed and thanked him and repented for allowing them to get close to me. He talked to me telepathically asking me questions and made me feel the guilt of my sins. Lots of information as a sort of psychic download into my heart and mind simultaneously. Question 1: “After all I’ve done for you, what have you done for Me, and others?” Question 2: “Am I NOT enough for you?” Then, the weight of my sins lifted, it was incredible. Since that moment, I’ve had no desire to drink, smoke, blaspheme, masterbate, be angry, stressed out or sin at all. Wanting to share love with no other possible explanation. I notice the tiniest signs he puts in my path....I see them right away and chuckle, seeing He really does work in mysterious ways. I fully understand how to have a relationship with him and not need to physically see or hear our relationship. He is incredible people! Let him into your heart! I had felt in my soul the the extremes of joy and sorrow through just some of my life experiences..... Feeling the presence of God and Satan deep inside through strange encounters. For that, I am blessed to KNOW Christianity is the truth, yet I STILL tried to not fully commit. He wants us all to repent and accept Him. He actually told me this! Don’t think you can sin all your life and God will be OK with it. He really will reward you if you follow with all your heart!! If you’d like to see the full story, check it out here- https ://kzbin.info/www/bejne/jWask2OElJV-msk
@sphagbog
@sphagbog 3 жыл бұрын
Hey! Thanks for sharing. I don't gave the words that are big enough to respond. Except glory hallelujah.
@mikegreen2229
@mikegreen2229 3 жыл бұрын
H Adamson Yes!
@mikegreen2229
@mikegreen2229 3 жыл бұрын
Qui Creva Sp Amen. Part of my problem was that I had already believed that I was saved, but did not understand repentance from a biblical perspective. I didn’t understand you are forgiven for past, present and future sin. I didn’t know that repent is a change of mind. Now, After reading most of the Bible I get it
@user-dk9in6yn7h
@user-dk9in6yn7h 3 жыл бұрын
Jesus can't save as he couldn't save himself instead he cried out loudly
@mikegreen2229
@mikegreen2229 3 жыл бұрын
@@user-dk9in6yn7h Are u saying he was crucified? If so, you aren’t a Muslim
@shalom5934
@shalom5934 3 жыл бұрын
Perfect preservation of QUR'ANSS.... 1, Qaloon Qur'an 2, Al- susi(ibn-katheer) Qur'an 3,Khaled QUR'AN 4,Idrees QUR'AN 5,warsh Qur'an 6, Hafs Ad- Dury (Abu - Amro alBasri) QUR'AN 7,Al- Laith QUR'AN 8,Al- Bazzi Qur'an 9,Al- Azraq QUR'AN 10,As - Susi (Abu Amro alBasri) QUR'AN 11,Ad - Dury(alkisa'i) QUR'AN 12, Ibn shanboodh Qur'an 13,Al- Asbahaani QUR'AN 14,Hisham QUR'AN 15,Ibn Dhakwan QUR'AN 16,Isa BinWardan QUR'AN 17,Sulayman QUR'AN 18, Ibn Jammaz QUR'AN 19,Ahmad bin Farah QUR'AN 20,Qunbul Qur'an 21,Showba QUR'AN 22, Ruwais QUR'AN 23,Shujaa' bin Abi Nasr Al- Balakhi QUR'AN 24, Abu Amro Al -Ala QUR'AN 25,Hafs QUR'AN 1924 Cairo edition 26, Sana QUR'AN 27, Al- Dury(Al Hasan AlBasri) QUR'AN 28, Hafs Al - Dury(ibn kathir) QUR'AN 29,khalf QUR'AN 30,Ishaq QUR'AN 31,Al Hasan bin Said Al- Matuu'l QUR'AN 32, Abu- Farah Al- Shan - budhi QUR'AN 33,Ibn Masud QUR'AN 34,Ubai kab QUR'AN 35, Ruh QUR'AN 36,Abu Musa QUR'AN 37,Hafs QUR'AN 1982 edition 38, Ibn Abbas QUR'AN.... ...... STANDARD NARRATIVE HAS HOLES
@holahalo7830
@holahalo7830 3 жыл бұрын
@Kleo i have some link if you want to buy this variant quran
@holahalo7830
@holahalo7830 3 жыл бұрын
@Handy Man can i have the link to buy it ?
@GordonPasha1885
@GordonPasha1885 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, impressive list. Hatun said 37 Arabic Qurans. We now have 38. Is that it, or will there be more?
@billyfasoulis8948
@billyfasoulis8948 3 жыл бұрын
Are these just different translations or does the meaning change between each version? Genuinely curious
@jasmineflower2495
@jasmineflower2495 3 жыл бұрын
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@sparklingfashion6276
@sparklingfashion6276 3 жыл бұрын
Let’s just get one thing clear. The preservation of a book is not a miracle. Even from a thousands years ago. It still doesn’t make it a miracle.
@MercyRajesh
@MercyRajesh 3 жыл бұрын
Great respect to Dr.Wood and his enormous knowledge God has blessed him with thru the help of Holy Spirit...
@user-dk9in6yn7h
@user-dk9in6yn7h 3 жыл бұрын
Hahahahah he is with limited knowledge like his god Jesus 🤣
@NhwNews
@NhwNews 3 жыл бұрын
This video started with an Islamic advertisement. Great, because Muslims must be watching. The only way they could find out the truth about their religion.
@fahadbutt3611
@fahadbutt3611 3 жыл бұрын
yup, we are, and i answered till 20:00 and rest is your job, so please.
@johnzuma4688
@johnzuma4688 2 жыл бұрын
@@fahadbutt3611 I have read the hafs quran and some of the hadiths and found the following very disturbing about Mohammed and his allah: - Islam teaches that child marriage is OK which implies child rape (Surah 65:4) which is evil. And Mohammed of course led by example when he raped a 9 year old little girl. - Islam teaches that it is OK for a husband to beat his wife (Surah 4:34) which is evil. - Islam teaches that it is OK to use women captured in war to be used and sold as sex slaves (Surah 33:50) which evil. - Islam teaches that Christians and Jews must be fought until they have been killed (murdered) unless they submit to Islam and agree to be oppressed second class citizens in the own country (Surah 9:29) which is evil. - And the witness of a women is worth only half of that of a man. (Surah 2:282). That is an insult to all women. Lets see what Jesus said: - Jesus teaches in John 14:6 English Standard Version » 6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. « So who needs Mohammed and his allah? Logically no-one, especially as Mohammed does not explain how anyone gets to heaven following what he recited or how he lived.
@NicoleKiesha
@NicoleKiesha 3 жыл бұрын
This was nice . Thanks... passing this info straight to my friends
@IslamCritiqued
@IslamCritiqued 3 жыл бұрын
This argument hasn't aged well...
@flourishomotola5306
@flourishomotola5306 3 жыл бұрын
I agree. God bless the goat that ate the quran.
@muhammadibnkilab7026
@muhammadibnkilab7026 3 жыл бұрын
John Poul only perfectly preserved errors in Islam starting from Muhammad.
@rickl7182
@rickl7182 3 жыл бұрын
@Bersama Hikmah it's funny you said bible is corrupted while the evidence show exactly the opposite where we still have the early source access. Unlike your so called perfect preserve Quran that partly already eaten by goat and disappeared for good. Perfect Preserve indeed. Do you still insist it's the perfect preservation? I know you will say yes.
@courag1
@courag1 3 жыл бұрын
"IC" sounds like "I SEE". If a person sees that what they are promised about the Qur'an is false and they see that, then why are they content to stay with a lie?
@courag1
@courag1 3 жыл бұрын
Bersama Hikmah My sister had an invisible friend when I was a child, she play with her invisible friend and talk to it. Did I think my sister was a prophetess? No, I thought she was sick in the head or stupid.
@jackthisout9480
@jackthisout9480 3 жыл бұрын
Not a punctuation mark was changed. That is true, although these marks did not exist in the 7th century.
@defrankmedia7520
@defrankmedia7520 3 жыл бұрын
...may be the text speak of Quaran in heaven, bro!
@defrankmedia7520
@defrankmedia7520 3 жыл бұрын
@J...you misunderstood my "koran in heaven" rhetoric, bro. You are right in your assertion of the Koran at least having a human corruption by the addition of punctuations. It's a pity that many Muslim brethren won't agree
@ourbulwarkisjesuschrist9435
@ourbulwarkisjesuschrist9435 3 жыл бұрын
@@defrankmedia7520 I understood it hehe. But sarcasm is prone to being misunderstood unless you explicitly mention that you're sarcastic :D By the way, to add clarity, I add that the technical term for those "punctuation marks" is "diacritical marks" or "diacritics", and the technical term for the Arabic of the earliest Qur'ans, which lack those marks, is "Rasm." I intend to one day read the Qur'an as if it has no diacritics and see how well I can interpret it as a cookbook or something because it'd establish just how interpretable the Rasm text of the Qur'an was before diacritics were added.
@ourbulwarkisjesuschrist9435
@ourbulwarkisjesuschrist9435 3 жыл бұрын
​@johno20001 have you even seen the video you're so wrongly commenting about? Some Muslims claim that no diacritic mark has been changed but diacritics didn't even exist until a later time, so the diacritics themselves are a change. The Qur'an was written in Rasm before diacritics were added. There's nothing that warrants a "moving goalposts" accusation.
@jackthisout9480
@jackthisout9480 3 жыл бұрын
@johno20001 Clearly you have not watched the video, as it is a muslim making this claim. Keep living your life like that mate, it is kind of dumb.
@alphabeta1337
@alphabeta1337 3 жыл бұрын
Todays Quran is from 1924 The New Testament is identical with 5800 manuscripts
@gaipa2006
@gaipa2006 3 жыл бұрын
The 5800 Manuscripts are greek manuscripts. We have another 2000 latin manuscripts and hundreds of coptic manuscripts for the New Testament. And, all of them match one another.
@iqbalswati4786
@iqbalswati4786 3 жыл бұрын
@@gaipa2006 and non of these 5800 manuscript are same.
@iqbalswati4786
@iqbalswati4786 3 жыл бұрын
@@gaipa2006 OK. Let me ask you, what language did jessuse speak? You have a 9 century manisript, equal to a cradit card.
@gaipa2006
@gaipa2006 3 жыл бұрын
@@iqbalswati4786 they are too similar to one another and that's how you know the New Testament is perserved. Moreover, you meant to say that they are not identical to each other. The same case applies to your Quranic manuscripts, they are not identical to each other nor are they identical to the Hafs, warsh or other Qurans.
@gaipa2006
@gaipa2006 3 жыл бұрын
@@iqbalswati4786 Jesus spoke Aramaic and Greek maybe he spoke Egyptian coptic but we are not sure.
@alliekalizamani9310
@alliekalizamani9310 3 жыл бұрын
Wonderful information I enjoy u guys
@rebeccasamuel1987
@rebeccasamuel1987 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for revealing the truth.
@ukwelinauwazi5523
@ukwelinauwazi5523 3 жыл бұрын
*MBARIKIWE SANA* David & Fadi, mnafanya poa sana hakika muendelee kubarikiwa ili tuendelee kujifunza mengi kupitia kwenu. All the way from *EAST AFRICA* may you all be blessed in JESUS' name🙏
@89blackcamaro
@89blackcamaro 2 жыл бұрын
God bless you for the work your doing
@naimahsarker6860
@naimahsarker6860 3 жыл бұрын
Please do some series on Revelation
@instinto8710
@instinto8710 3 жыл бұрын
most Cristian are not interested but if you ask me I can send you a link of the people that deal with the book of revelation
@lefronzzedong4871
@lefronzzedong4871 3 жыл бұрын
@@instinto8710 yes please! I would love to see different view points on revelations!
@instinto8710
@instinto8710 3 жыл бұрын
@@lefronzzedong4871 I know you have herd of and read a lot of rev, before I give you some advice, it would be nice if you tell me what do you understand for revelation , and everything that concern you about the book.
@nabalnabil3218
@nabalnabil3218 3 жыл бұрын
God bless...
@petergarcia8225
@petergarcia8225 3 жыл бұрын
Shukran sir for sharing with us!
@todesiljanoski476
@todesiljanoski476 3 жыл бұрын
God bless both of you.
@mbens105
@mbens105 3 жыл бұрын
Too many Muslims still believe what they have been told even if they were wrong.
@mpdcuk
@mpdcuk 3 жыл бұрын
Unlike Christians who just make it up as they go along.
@farookdinaully8029
@farookdinaully8029 3 жыл бұрын
M Bens This is funny coming from someone who believe in a man to be God.
@pawekarkosa3033
@pawekarkosa3033 29 күн бұрын
​@@farookdinaully8029your prophet believed it himself, that Jesus was a God. He confirmed the truth written in the Gospels and confirmed that the "word of Allah" revealed in the Torah and Bible is true and no one can change it. Also - your prophet claimed that Jesus is still alive, together with Allah on his throne. Do you know any man who can live for 2000 years? Your prophet simply died, because he was a man. While he said about Jesus that he was the "word of Allah". So you are comparing the politeist Mohammad, son of polytheist, who had to ask Allah for forgiveness of his sins and didn't even get Allah forgiving his mother the sin of polytheism (therefore Mohammad's mother is in hell), to a flawless, sinless being, born out of sinless mother, who was the voice of Allah embodied? You are a funny man, I give you that.
@hmz6khih
@hmz6khih 3 жыл бұрын
The quran IS A BOOK from the beginning , because it is written on golden tablets and with allah in heaven. So even the abrogations are in that quran....isn't that FUNNY ?
@wongkonghwa935
@wongkonghwa935 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you both, thank you, very much, God bless you both always Amen,
@simontemplar3359
@simontemplar3359 Жыл бұрын
I genuinely appreciate the gentler approach that is being taken here. I think Al Fadi can especially understand the feeling of how revered the book and the man are. Im a former Muslim myself, and these are things that are so sacred to Muslims that it is important to approach it with good manners. Especially since Islamic teaching is that Muhammad insisted that dialog with ahl Al Kitab be done with the best adab or manners. Personally i think the man Muslims follow did not exist and is a bit of a composite of several teachers and syncretic quasi Monophysite christian heresy carried forth in time, but it is sacred to them and by being respectful and gentle is a great way to deal with something that is genuinely shocking to a Muslim.
@arthurfields9575
@arthurfields9575 3 жыл бұрын
Allah is too weak that he can’t remind people of the chapters and verses that were lost.
@mrafiyasin
@mrafiyasin 3 жыл бұрын
I bet you can try drinking poison or immuned to poisomous snake bite as what your Holey bible says or your God lied in his holey book
@arthurfields9575
@arthurfields9575 3 жыл бұрын
Mrafi Yasin you should be the one to help me with that.
@gilbertjones9157
@gilbertjones9157 3 жыл бұрын
Like our scriptures the Qur'an did not have chapter and verse, there were added later.
@arthurfields9575
@arthurfields9575 3 жыл бұрын
Mrafi Yasin it is definitely true that one can become immune to poisons and snake venom. Snakes use venom and their bites are venomous not poisonous.
@arthurfields9575
@arthurfields9575 3 жыл бұрын
Mrafi Yasin, was your statement a threat? It wasn’t a very good threat. Mohammed did die from poison given to him by a Jewish women.
@petunia88
@petunia88 3 жыл бұрын
Muslim:Nothing has changed on the Quran since it was originally written Me: which of the 37+ kuran varieties?
@farookdinaully8029
@farookdinaully8029 3 жыл бұрын
Clever Banana ME.You Christians are still trying to figure out which Bible out of a thousands versions of it you should follow,the inconsistent,man-altered,man-corrupted and morally corrupted Bible.
@jasminemon5790
@jasminemon5790 3 жыл бұрын
@@farookdinaully8029 According to the evidence from your Islamic sources your Quran is the most inconsistent, Man altered , man corrupted and morally corrupted book... Lol... Stop being in denial
@SaintOtter
@SaintOtter 3 жыл бұрын
@@farookdinaully8029 find me a bible manuscript that denies the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ. But even if it were there: by proving Christianity false, does that mean that Islam is true? Of you can't defend Islam, what does that say about Islam?
@henkh63
@henkh63 3 жыл бұрын
@@farookdinaully8029 This video is about the Quran. So you're off-topic. Got any comments on the video? I guess not.
@farookdinaully8029
@farookdinaully8029 3 жыл бұрын
@Bruce Wayne Quran has 114 chapters 6236 verses 157935 words 5277 non repeated words. All the Quran of the world are identical show me two different Quran I challenge you.
@fahadbutt3611
@fahadbutt3611 3 жыл бұрын
4:54 name of the scholar and the conference name needed. Please
@markramlucken8502
@markramlucken8502 3 жыл бұрын
Thank u Alfadi n David Wood God bLess youll
@fknsavag355
@fknsavag355 3 жыл бұрын
If I'd had the courage to negate logic and and seed ground that one good thing ever came of christianity this gentlemen your work is it. The United front against the ideological perversions of islam. Thanks many to you all Jay... the whole gang !!!
@Daniel.Emmanuel10
@Daniel.Emmanuel10 3 жыл бұрын
Love you al-Fadi and David Wood in Jesus Christ!
@StephanthePelted
@StephanthePelted 3 жыл бұрын
@11:46 mind to point out where did Muhammad named those 4 top reciters of the quran?
@joek8948
@joek8948 2 жыл бұрын
AF & DW, 2 of my all time favourite apologists. 🤩😍
@namyohorengekyo1882
@namyohorengekyo1882 3 жыл бұрын
Dr. David wood need to speak in UN.he could be helping people around the world with true knowledge.
@TIMAYYY88
@TIMAYYY88 3 жыл бұрын
Wow Il have a few questions for my Muslim friends
@janieali5521
@janieali5521 3 жыл бұрын
You have nothing
@professorx9919
@professorx9919 3 жыл бұрын
holy sheep hahaha brother alfadi and his unexpected jokes are too good
@akeleakondo8880
@akeleakondo8880 3 жыл бұрын
Why didn't you give any reference to your quote from Abu Dawood????
@asifmasihsandhu
@asifmasihsandhu 3 жыл бұрын
May Lord be with you...and use you more and more as His instruments to bring people to the truth.
@user-dk9in6yn7h
@user-dk9in6yn7h 3 жыл бұрын
Which Lord ?? In the bible there's 2 Lords 😂😂
@ritheshrodrigues3
@ritheshrodrigues3 Жыл бұрын
@@user-dk9in6yn7h first watch full vedio
@yabadabad00000
@yabadabad00000 3 жыл бұрын
When will this information become common knowledge to muslims?
@janieali5521
@janieali5521 3 жыл бұрын
This is the problem, you believe in every lies.
@worldcitizen3519
@worldcitizen3519 3 жыл бұрын
A good information
@ophelian4646
@ophelian4646 3 жыл бұрын
This was very interesting and I managed to find most hadiths referred to in the video, except Sahih Muslim 2286 which said something totally different where I looked.. But I guess I got lost among all different ways to find the right hadith - and my native language is neither Arabic nor English..
@agffans5725
@agffans5725 3 жыл бұрын
Here you go : sunnah.com/muslim/12/156
@ophelian4646
@ophelian4646 3 жыл бұрын
@@agffans5725 Thank you!
@gilbertjones9157
@gilbertjones9157 3 жыл бұрын
@@ophelian4646 You have done will with your English Pilgrim.
@sajivj1996
@sajivj1996 3 жыл бұрын
May God bless both of you brothers in Christ
@hmz6khih
@hmz6khih 3 жыл бұрын
Sheikh dr Yasir Qadhi said recently about the PERFECT PRESERVATION OF THE QURAN: " THERE ARE HOLES IN THE STANDARD NARRATIVE ", meaning this statement about the quran is NOT TRUE !
@paulwilliams5855
@paulwilliams5855 3 жыл бұрын
Yes many times bro.
@bell1095
@bell1095 3 жыл бұрын
Which version of Quran-Text would be the most likely authentic text ?
@pawekarkosa3033
@pawekarkosa3033 29 күн бұрын
Funny. I see what you did there ;)
@MultiMark2
@MultiMark2 3 жыл бұрын
Bless the sheep that ate the passages of the quran
@gilbertjones9157
@gilbertjones9157 3 жыл бұрын
@Mark 22000 I am sure it got et at the funeral. I wonder if it's skin became vellum and is the part of the Birmingham Folio; it was alive during the life of the messenger.
@hdl135605
@hdl135605 3 жыл бұрын
The sheep who ate the passages of the Quran are getting revelations from Allah after the Prophet's death.
@MultiMark2
@MultiMark2 3 жыл бұрын
@@hdl135605 🤣🤣🤣
@micbuloni3580
@micbuloni3580 3 жыл бұрын
Quran is well preserved with a formalin in it.
@gilbertjones9157
@gilbertjones9157 3 жыл бұрын
@Mic Buloni not sure what biological specimen is being preserved but I know Bondo does wonders on holes and dents.
@carkshe
@carkshe 3 жыл бұрын
We have seen quite a few changes and deletions from the Quran just in the last 2 - 3 months
@PentaETA
@PentaETA 3 жыл бұрын
12:11 is that the Quran David drilled a hole in after?
@secondtimothy-four1-4
@secondtimothy-four1-4 3 жыл бұрын
Keep on going this / His way brothers!, because there are jokes in the standard quramic narrative
@secondtimothy-four1-4
@secondtimothy-four1-4 3 жыл бұрын
@Shane Molloy prove it; WHEN & WHERE?
@secondtimothy-four1-4
@secondtimothy-four1-4 3 жыл бұрын
@Shane Molloy Show me some evidence. 1. Define “corruption” 2. When was the Gospel corrupted? 3. How was the Gospel corrupted? 4. Who corrupted the Gospel? 5. Evidence? Mark's Gospel Part 1: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bZuzaIKBZdGbhJo​ I realize KZbin is discontinuing private messages for many users. I'll still be available via "Business Inquiry Emails" for those who want to send their responses privately. This can be accessed through the desktop version only, not mobile. This will take effect on July 9th, 2018. kzbin.info/www/bejne/oZKUmYRqlLuap6M
@interqward1
@interqward1 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, David. Ever since YOU messed with it is has REALLY been changed!!
@henktmmr
@henktmmr 3 жыл бұрын
👌brilliant
@Martin-lv1xw
@Martin-lv1xw Жыл бұрын
Thanx Wood & Alfadi...Glory to God
@jsilvanus240
@jsilvanus240 3 жыл бұрын
The holely quran.
@richardthornhill4630
@richardthornhill4630 3 жыл бұрын
Truth is available to all who seek. Religions encourages its followers to blindly accept what they are told. All men should desire to know God and be known by Him.
@richardthornhill4630
@richardthornhill4630 3 жыл бұрын
@luciddreamerROM Jesus is The Truth. There is a reason all dating of international events for travel, commerce, and events are dated by the crucifixion and resurrection of Jesus Christ. Jesus LIVES. The other teachers, philosophers, and prophets are DEAD.
@richardthornhill4630
@richardthornhill4630 3 жыл бұрын
@Sánchez Machado Man's "morality" is objective but GOD has established a standard, Jesus Christ. Do you know Him?
@richardthornhill4630
@richardthornhill4630 3 жыл бұрын
@luciddreamerROM Rely on Jesus, the Bible as the Word of God. The only source of divine inspiration from God to man. Jesus is The Truth, The Way, and The Life. Those who put their trust in Him will not be disappointed.
@richardthornhill4630
@richardthornhill4630 3 жыл бұрын
@luciddreamerROM Good advice. I believe Jesus is the Christ, the Savior of the world. He was crucified and resurrection as determined before the foundation of the world. Everyone should seek Truth not accept the traditions and religions of men.
@richardthornhill4630
@richardthornhill4630 3 жыл бұрын
@luciddreamerROM Dont't get lost in trivia. The facts remain. There is a reason all international dating of events, travel and commerce are dated by crucifixion and resurrection of Jesus Christ, another historical fact documented by secular history and the Gospels.
@1sttruthfoundation47
@1sttruthfoundation47 2 жыл бұрын
How can i get a complete Quran?
@ZenHorakti
@ZenHorakti 2 жыл бұрын
Download it. In playstore
@albertgallegos9938
@albertgallegos9938 Жыл бұрын
❤❤❤🙏🙏🙏 Gotta Love You Guys!!!!!
@Prophet_Google
@Prophet_Google 3 жыл бұрын
😂 👕👍 *When will PROPHET GOOGLE feature in the Koran?* ☪️ 👖
@Jesussaidhewillreturn
@Jesussaidhewillreturn 3 жыл бұрын
Jesus resisted temptation during his 40 days in the wilderness. The prophet Mohammed had the devil visit him also and he created Islam.
@janieali5521
@janieali5521 3 жыл бұрын
Islam was not created by Muhammad. If you don't know ask and you will be educated.
@alextremodelnorte1905
@alextremodelnorte1905 Жыл бұрын
It was trash to begin with and then it was changed into a different kind of trash.
@MustAfaalik
@MustAfaalik 3 жыл бұрын
Very thorough research done by David. Txs. The Quran is the epiphany of Taqqiya.
@alanchristianocr7817
@alanchristianocr7817 3 жыл бұрын
Yazir qadi is right, standard narrative has holes in it. Lol
@bbqbbq0
@bbqbbq0 3 жыл бұрын
Nice try please try again hehehehe I am a normal arabic guy and i can erase that argument in a second Hope toy can make a debate with some muslim please dont talk alone 🥱 If you really want to understand the situation you have to understand the whole picture of it and see if its make a sense or not If we say about bible its written after jesus 150 years And quran written after months of our prophet died and people memorised it directly from prophet and there was strict way to write any one bring and verse he has to bring witnesses unless everyone knows this person he is approved from our prophet or recite infront of our prophet The sad reality you cant ever and never find any misleading or errors in Quran and Islam from the right source I think if he has a strong point many people will say that from first century but everyone knows at least as arabic people we know the small details Nice try again 🥱🥱
@ttpv8743
@ttpv8743 3 жыл бұрын
How can you say that quran is written months after Muhhamed die when that isnt truth, it takes about 20 years to complete the book
@bbqbbq0
@bbqbbq0 3 жыл бұрын
@@ttpv8743 means you dont know what i am saying exactly Its written as a whole book after prophet death And it takes 23 years to finish it as a revelation from Allah (creator )
@ttpv8743
@ttpv8743 3 жыл бұрын
@@bbqbbq0 i know what are talking about but do some research, it take years when kalifa Uthman decide to put all in one book
@bbqbbq0
@bbqbbq0 3 жыл бұрын
@@ttpv8743 😭😭😭😭 Khalifah Othman nooo The one who decided to do it Khalifah Abo Bakir
@bbqbbq0
@bbqbbq0 3 жыл бұрын
@@ttpv8743 and between are you Arabic ?
@michaelsowerby8198
@michaelsowerby8198 3 жыл бұрын
The fact that the 'sheep verse' is missing from the koran destroys the argument for oral transmission being a reliable source of transmission. Had the earliest muslims trusted it they would have simply written down what they remembered.
@hdl135605
@hdl135605 3 жыл бұрын
The sheep verse was eaten by a sheep. Funny!
@youngcolt5305
@youngcolt5305 3 жыл бұрын
You missed giving the references for various claims you present in the video.
@hamzaabbas2711
@hamzaabbas2711 3 жыл бұрын
صلی اللّٰہ علیہ وآلہ وسلم علیہ السلام سلام اللہ علیہا رضی اللہ تعالیٰ اجمعین رحمت اللہ thank you for this video very informative brother's this is the same question what Muslim ask the Christians about Bible nothing new so now and always will be up to individual's to research by themselves without being biased towards any ideology or may I say religion like always all the best to Muslim and Atheism love from Pakistan
@urgeehassanee15
@urgeehassanee15 3 жыл бұрын
That abu dawood hadith you quoted about companions dying in the battel of yamamah and quran being lost is classed as inauthentic by many scholars. Reason for the narration to be inauthentic is: If you look at the chain of transmission of this report, it has an unreliable narrator Yunus ibn Yazeed known for making major mistakes, Furthermore, the chain also has a gap, which means we do not know who transmitted it during this gap. As for the argumnet that the companions dying in the battle of Yamaha and the verses being lost with them, let's say that was the case for argument sake, do you think that none of those who did not attend the battle or didn't die in the battle haven't memorize the quran from the first chapter to the last? How about people like Zaid in Thabit who memorized the entire quran and didn't die in the battle? What do you say tho that! This just shows how low you are willing to go to attack islam and deceive your audience with inauthentic text while knowing the truth of the matter. There are also authentic and reliable sources that testify that all Qur‟anic passages were written down during the Prophet‟s time (hence before the battle of yamamah) each time they were revealed (see Musnad Ahmad, Volume 1, page 92, no. 401 & Sunan Abu Dawud, Book 3, no. 785), hence there existed no verses of the Qur‟an without a written counter-part. So please stop spreading lies ! Allah says in the Quran in chapter 9. V 32 - 33 "They wish to extinguish Allah’s light with their mouths, but Allah will only allow His light to be perfected, even to the dismay of the disbelievers. He is the One Who has sent His Messenger with ˹true˺ guidance and the religion of truth, making it prevail over all others, even to the dismay of the polytheists." So islam will prevail whether you like it or not. For example, Here in Canada many churches have been deserted and many Christians are turning to atheisim, as a result Muslims are buying the churches and using them as mosques!
@mindexcursion9856
@mindexcursion9856 Жыл бұрын
To your knowledge, is the story of the Goat eating the Quran true? There seem to be authentic sources on this subject . As a Muslim defending your faith, what is the real story of the goat eating the Quran? Can Aisha be trusted or regarded as a reliable source of that story? Would not mind an opinion. Thank You.
@greekflower3600
@greekflower3600 3 жыл бұрын
Commenting for the algorithm
@melchiormapa3597
@melchiormapa3597 Ай бұрын
These men are some of the great teachers to our generation . I thank God for their insight and commitment The Holy Spirit is their strength and inspiration Iti great and lovely listening to to you,AL and Dave.👍👍🙏🙏🙏
@imagingteam
@imagingteam 3 жыл бұрын
"holes in the narrative" 🕳️🕳️⛳⛳
@MrMirville
@MrMirville 2 жыл бұрын
The more holes there are in a narrative, the more holy it is, isn't it?
@backtothebible3811
@backtothebible3811 2 жыл бұрын
Good morning David, some muslims are arguing that those Hadith you quoted are not authentic ones. Can you please shed some on this?
@watsonasmr.942
@watsonasmr.942 3 жыл бұрын
Gbu.
@Peter-xf9jy
@Peter-xf9jy 3 жыл бұрын
it doesnt say message (risala) but dhikr (reminder), a term the Quran also uses for the Torah btw.
@bbqbbq0
@bbqbbq0 3 жыл бұрын
If you forget something dont claim it easy right 🥱🥱
@hyprogaming2880
@hyprogaming2880 2 жыл бұрын
It does not make a sense that there were verses that were gone because Allah s.w.t stated it already in the quran that he will do it and then make the quran uncorrupted after it, he did it to show us that he is capable of everything. If We ever abrogate a verse or cause it to be forgotten, We replace it with a better or similar one. Do you not know that Allah is Most Capable of everything? (quran 2:106)
@solymanalybiek3239
@solymanalybiek3239 3 жыл бұрын
If what left from Qur'an surat Al-ikhlas which has number 112, it's enough. What you should do is to focus in your Turah & Gospel which is not available for you expect what ever the Rabbies and the pop wants you to know.
@user-jt6or7lw5s
@user-jt6or7lw5s 2 ай бұрын
We dont argue perfect preservation. And definitely don't argue it as proof.
@gloryboundkev
@gloryboundkev 3 жыл бұрын
A lie is still a lie no matter how you word it.
@johnsonjohn2243
@johnsonjohn2243 3 жыл бұрын
Jay smith and hatun tash team has found out 37 different arabic qurans! The standard narrative has holes in it.
@hyprogaming2880
@hyprogaming2880 2 жыл бұрын
Many among the People of the Book wish they could turn you ˹believers˺ back to disbelief because of their envy, after the truth has been made clear to them. Pardon and bear with them until Allah delivers His decision. Surely Allah is Most Capable of everything. (quran 2:109)
@billymandalay6879
@billymandalay6879 2 жыл бұрын
"Capable of everything"? Your al-Lah couldn't even prevent a sheep from destroying his nonsensical book ! lol And how deluded and conceited of you to even think anyone would envy your silly book. We laugh at it from cover to cover.
@tafazzi-on-discord
@tafazzi-on-discord Жыл бұрын
God is omnipotent, yes, but Muhammed was a fraud. We do not want you to disbelieve in God, we want you to know Him as best as you can, not through that fraudulent false prophet.
@SRT156
@SRT156 Жыл бұрын
Allah and Mohammed said in Quran that earth is flat. But scientist Galileo defeated them mercilessly. 🤣
@afzalbashir1914
@afzalbashir1914 3 жыл бұрын
Advise to both brother to listen the lectures of Ahmed Deedat.
@kimtingchaleun2910
@kimtingchaleun2910 3 жыл бұрын
Msg to Dr. Wood : 👍
@titobabu7980
@titobabu7980 2 жыл бұрын
Amen
@jabirrehman6458
@jabirrehman6458 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely inshallah ahmeen Hadith in harmony with the Quran and the rightly guided sahaba
@PACEMAKER.313
@PACEMAKER.313 22 күн бұрын
Where are those verses which are missing in the QUR'AN Show that manuscript which is different from today's QUR'AN.where is the evidence
@challengerboy5184
@challengerboy5184 3 жыл бұрын
Whenever i go to Muslim yotuber channel they always have Q and A with people and aswer their questions and they also share knowlege about islam but when i go to an christian channel they always post stuff againt islam...that is why Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world..
@gilbertjones9157
@gilbertjones9157 3 жыл бұрын
Wrong even some Scholars say there is a big problem with the young and converts not following what they have been taught and it is effecting the numbers. But keep holding on to that.
@franciscogris4116
@franciscogris4116 Жыл бұрын
En español para millones más de personas
@arekseo9465
@arekseo9465 3 жыл бұрын
When I see this guy I remember Mohamed Hijab 🤣 he destory David Wod in the debate hahaha 🤣
@Christian-hc2xo
@Christian-hc2xo Жыл бұрын
Has the Bible ever treated the same way? A Yes B Hell yes C Are you kidding? D All of the above-mentioned.
@hotstepper8420
@hotstepper8420 3 жыл бұрын
Changed or not, it's flawed from outset!
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