Israel Strikes Rafah: What Next?

[@bigmeowster99]

Ben said my name!! I love this channel

[@TLDRdaily]

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Epic name

[@bigmeowster99]

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[@resolvanlemmy]

Only 30 minutes and you already got pinned. Congrats.

[@bigmeowster99]

@@resolvanlemmy Lol thanks

[@guesswho820]

Sunak is actually trolling his own party at this point

[@MrGoldhandles]

after the last three tory pm's. (I didn't pay any attention to May, so I don't know if this goes back to her) one must wonder if this is part of a plan. be it to destroy the torries, all conservative party/unity/strength, or just all of the uk. or something else

[@zachb1706]

@@MrGoldhandlesthe Conservatives have done a good job at destroying the UK for the past 15 years, maybe Sunak wants to save it

[@Legion617]

Tbh a lot of young adults just don't do anything in their lives anymore and just use social media as a crutch. Idiotic to make it for 18 year olds though, 21-25 perhaps, especially for those who refuse to look for jobs, lazy shits

[@teelo12000]

Hes doing the New Zealand Labour Party strategy: lose the election so horribly that the other party gets in with a big majority, then at the next election go "SEE LOOK ALL YOUR PROBLEMS ARE STILL HERE BETTER VOTE THEM OUT!"

[@S3Cs4uN8]

@@teelo12000 Hell that's not even a strategy unique to them

[@Ar1AnX1x]

Israel doing a speedrun of losing allies

[@LifeLikeSea]

You meant they're doing their best while fighting a cowardly run terror organization that hides among their own women & children.

[@DiegoTTesla]

🇮🇱🤝🇮🇳 Allies forever

[@manana1444]

At this point Bibi must just be fucking around to see how far he can go.

[@OfficialMEGA]

@@manana1444 he ain't even popular in Israel (source: I'm Israeli) (not because of the war but because of corruption)

[@madkoala2130]

@@OfficialMEGA question: Do you think this war is an setup by Netanyahu to dodge corruption allegation?

[@dustinabigan2776]

"tragic mishap" Wasn't phrasing like this also used when they killed a bunch of WCK aid workers despite coordinating with the IDF?

[@thehaus6998]

the thing is it's not something that was specific to those foreign workers, communication in an army is extremly important and considerably hard to maintain, there is probably many victims of it including Israeli soldiers, so the strike on the aid workers was most likley not intentional at all, but due to the fact that I'm fairly sure it was at night, and if you know ANYTHING about military drone hardware, is that it's vision is very mediocare at best, and at night with probably low quality sight due to infared and other such, it caused the deaths, same happend to israeli soldiers who got shot at by a tank because he saw the barrel of their gun and was supposed to be informed of their presence it's not really intentional at all, the fact is a massive army is operating in a very small area in a very stressful time and so communication and direct messaging is a hard thing to convey and do, it is by all results, a tragic mishap

[@omgraggy5358]

​@@thehaus6998it was intentional. As each truck was systematically targeted. The IDF knew what rout they would take as they were in contact with them.

[@MrGoldhandles]

@@omgraggy5358 you never follow up on that.

[@PCDelorian]

@@thehaus6998 Israel cannot make unilateral decisions to destroy any convoy it likes without confirming a valid target, even if they didn't know it was an aid convoy they ought to, the aid convoy not only had a beacon but communicated its mission with the IDF. The IDF also benefitted from their deaths as it prevented aid not only imminently but substantially reduced aid workers there. The fact that humanitarian charities are more concerned about the IDF killing them than the literal terrorist organisation says a lot about the IDF. It was murder to facilitate a genocide aka War Crimes and Crimes Against Humanity. Intention can be inferred from conduct and whether or not its intentional its at best depraved indifference for the safety of non-combatants and humanitarian aid workers.

[@ChuffedLemon]

“Oopsie 😏” -Netanyahu/IDF

[@moehassona6009]

US wants to punish ICC for pursuing the international rules based order 😂

[@excentrik5725]

The hipocrisy is off the charts

[@armintargaryen9216]

The US needs an invasion to get some democracy

[@aye3678]

Evil empire cannot help itself.

[@toyotaprius79]

​@@excentrik5725hypocrisy is also being made among the casualties

[@rizkyadiyanto7922]

​@@toyotaprius79clown

[@madaoisblooming705]

Sunak basically decided to piss everyone in the country off. 🙃

[@rusbea.2279]

Maybe he knew he was never gonna last so chose to go down with a bang?!

[@kgnsc]

“Would you still love me if I committed heinous war crimes?”

[@mustafahassan7781]

Joe biden: "Yes 🥺"

[@MrFalut]

Germany : of course !

[@andalilbitqueer]

america: it's precisely why we love you

[@Artharia]

Biden: yes daddy, how many monies do you need for war crimes

[@zepher664]

"Not a chance" - the rest of us (hopefully)

[@constitution7167]

Starmer: “Vote for me and I’ll give more of you the ability to vote!” Sunak: “Vote for me and you will be forced to go to war or give up your weekends 🥰“

[@joschmo4497]

Starmer: Vote for me and there'll be nothing left to fight for, you'll all get replaced. Sunak: You'll all get replaced either way

[@blakebailey22]

Israel: "We will look into it... Okay, we're done. We find ourselves 'Not Guilty.'"

[@PizeFish]

Israel also accidently killed some of it's troops because of miscommunication this is war it's sad but mistakes happen

[@JaegerDreadful]

@@PizeFish Aaaah so you are saying they are just incompetent? This is like trying the "insane defense" when you are accused of murder man.

[@PizeFish]

@@JaegerDreadful I assure you that every army makes mistakes you're just not taking it into account or either countries where the press is controlled by the government they won't talk about it because it'll embarrass them

[@JaegerDreadful]

@@PizeFish Buddy you are coping so hard right now. And even if it is a mistake, killing civs is a warcrime no matter the situation. Cutting food, water and power from civs is also a warcrime. You can say "Mistakes happen" but they are still warcrimes.

[@PizeFish]

@@JaegerDreadful I'm not coping clearly you make it seem like Israel does it on purpose well you don't understand how war works so you're just making claims and cutting food and water? they're getting more aid nowadays than what they would've gotten during peacetime I can also give you sources also Israel was the providing electricity to Gaza but you know providing electricity to your mortal enemy is kinda stupid so yeah

[@Nova_xceter1789]

"i can accept child murder but i draw the line at having to see it" ~ America

[@0fficialdregs]

usa government. not everyday americans

[@hendrix8602]

@@0fficialdregs well, kinda true but like, when the guy who's running on a platform of not being as genocidal and crazy as the other one has to play this part not to aggravate the electors it does say a little something about the American public in general

[@0fficialdregs]

@@hendrix8602 generalizing all people for a small minority is a foolish mindset

[@hendrix8602]

@@0fficialdregs I agree, that wasn't my point, my point is that this "small minority" isn't so small since it's enough to make such a difference in a presidential election that both the main presidential candidates choose to accomodate their hateful ideals instead of taking a clean stance against them

[@0xCAFEF00D]

That's very clearly not the case. They didn't say stop. The line wasn't drawn.

[@ZeroCGR2]

I wonder if there are even any more hostages left alive in Gaza.

[@odelyaholiday9519]

Probably not

[@dago4133]

Indeed.

[@PizeFish]

Hamas doesn't let the red cross see them so who knows

[@elel-ww5nf]

There are some alive

[@AsadKhan-bl3on]

I think people who talk about hostages at this point are complicit in supporting western propaganda, and the genocide from Israel. And try to hide their inner racism under the garb of all this bs

[@rubiconprime1429]

Israel: “Oopsie.”

[@amir_os754]

By late February, the Israeli air force had hit 29,000 targets in Gaza. Today, the total number of casualties (both civilians and fighters) is 36,000. Estimates put the number of fighters at 10-13k. This means that 0.89-0.79 civilians died per airstrike. In one of the most complex urban combat environments in the world. And the way I took the numbers means thats a highball estimate.

[@petermahfouz6547]

US: "no worries bro, we got you"

[@mesiroy1234]

The fire wa.beucse rockets and fuel and of hamms Next time dont park it thre😂

[@roythousand13]

October 7, 2023!

[@miguellopes7627]

What kind of ultimatum can Eu countries give that Israel won't ignore?

[@lcg3092]

Any that actually does anything. Europe has so far tried absolutely nothing. And even if Israel ignores, that is irrelevant to the morality of Europe not doing something. "I'm not against Russia invading Ukraine because Russia would just ignore me" doesn't sound too good does it?

[@cyclomb]

Nothing. EU still sends weapons to Israel. I wouldn't trust the EU or Europeans for that matter. They don't exactly have a history of being honest.

[@legitplayin6977]

Being booted out of Eurovision maybe ?

[@veeaxis3892]

Any that surpasses the unwillingness of Israel to live next to Islamic terrorists that want every Jew to die.

[@2Links]

The EU is Israel's largest trade partner and Germany is its second biggest arms supplier after the US iirc

[@drafmine4526]

Hope the EU leaders take a strong position here. The US is basically only sending thoughts and prayers.

[@medo_0x00]

Yeah that's what they say publicly, but privately they're probably discussing how to sell more arms to isr*el without pissing off more people especially their citizens

[@rhubarbjin]

Worse: the US is sending out *munitions* with a folded note saying "carry on".

[@azleadam9239]

Us literally send money and weapon with ammunition.

[@ahmetkarl1229]

The trust in United Nations is concerningly shrinking to the same level as the trust to League of Nations.

[@thebaron2277]

Honestly lets just make NATO the UN and only include democratic conturies in it

[@zUJ7EjVD]

I think broadly trust has remained largely unchanged, if not gone up (purely based on a hunch). It's just Biden and his war criminal pal Netanyahu doing a Trump and attacking the courts for doing it's job.

[@deutschermichel5807]

​@lif6737i propose the Roman Empire

[@omgraggy5358]

The veto power needs to go.

[@32Jlocke]

@@omgraggy5358 Than why would any of the major powers join? The great powers generally don't give up their perks.

[@daedala]

all those politicians saying how awful this genocide is, how Israel has crossed the line and must stop immediately but not a single action is taken

[@ChinnuWoW]

Just PR stunts. They only pretend to care.

[@PizeFish]

This is not genocide calling it genocide is merely slogan because Israel is retaliating to hamas invasion and hamas leadership vowed to repeat.

[@teamjam2863]

@@PizeFishah yes an invasion Israel started since its inception and face retaliation from the indigenous population. The tragedy of the holocaust survivors were that their children became the very thing that destroyed their people.

[@PizeFish]

@@teamjam2863 Arabs are not native to Israel they're the direct result of the Arab emperialism during the 6th century it's colonialism just the Arab flavor if anything Jews are the indigenous people of Israel

[@daedala]

@@PizeFish that's a lot of cope you got there to not call it a genocide

[@SK-vg3mw]

Putin: Nobody can be hated more than me! Netanyahu: Hold my beer..

[@thegermanempire489]

Yeh, what’s tragic is more people have died in Gaza in 7 or 8 months then in Ukraine over 2 years, I think civilian deaths in Ukraine is under 10k, soldier deaths are fucking horrific tho, Sources say Ukraine has 300k casualties and Russia 180k casualties…

[@mofra]

@@thegermanempire489 Ukraine is not hiding behind civilians like hamas do. so its easy

[@thegermanempire489]

@@mofra ye fair point, but also shows Russia intent isnt to kill Civilians either

[@AlphaHorst]

Nethanayu said the strike on rafah was a "tragic accident". Remember for the past months and more intense the past weeks almost every supporter of israel said that any attack on Rafah would result in mass civilian dead and suffering. This is not an accident. it is exactly what was expected. True the missile and bombs might have gone of target, so technically it is an accident, but those happen quite often in war. So again. This result is EXACTLY as foretold. Therefore it can only be concluded, that Nethanayus government has done so on purpose with full knowledge and intent. Maybe not intent to kill these specific civilians, but full intent to take an action which would 100% result in this "accident"

[@Arielz41]

Much less than anticipated. Rafah has been a thing for a while, and people received evacuation warnings weeks and months ahead to move to the safe zone . Israel targeted senior Hamas members and accidentally hit an ammunition stockpile there. So, is it really Israel to blame for killing civilians who shouldn't have been there in the first place, given that Hamas leaders and ammunition were hidden among them?

[@AlphaHorst]

@Arielz41 First and foremost. The warnings came because it was absolutely impossible to evacuate. It was a farce. Not even 10% of the people inside Rafah had space in the new designated area. So, the evacuation order was already impossible to fulfil Secondly, the IDF somehow missed a massive weapons storage but found senior Hamas officials? Once again, they did only a half assed job of reconnaissance and failed to go through all necessary checks before authorising any strikes. It is the whole WCR thing all over. The IDF have fought exclusively im cities for over 2 decades, and yet they make the same mistakes we learned over 30 years ago over and over again. That is laziness, callousness, and intent right there.

[@nsk370]

Unlike in other incidents where the targeting was much more questionable, in this case they actually targeted Hamas terrorists and with smaller warheads. The massive collateral damage was due to (it seems) secondary explosions of Hamas weapons and/or fuel and because Hamas is embedding themselves in civilian areas and using civilians as human shields. Yes, the footage coming from the strike is horrific, but we shouldn't cloud our rational jugement with emotion. In this particular case, it seems, almost all the blame is on Hamas.

[@HaydenManka]

Imagine how the west would react if Russia did this stuff

[@Ihatehandlesfashyyoutube]

They already did and the West don’t do shit, seems Like the West isn’t a really reliable Israeli ally

[@sessan9450]

Russia does this stuff.

[@HaydenManka]

@@sessan9450 and when they do they get rightfully called out. Idk if Russia has bombed an area they told civilians to go towards tho

[@PizeFish]

Russia does it all the time y'all just ignore it because Israel is always in the news

[@JaegerDreadful]

@@HaydenManka Russia created "humantairy corridors" and then proceeded to shoot in them when people moved through them. This was somewhere in the start of the war.

[@carlosmiguelteixeiraott3643]

Ben: "Sunak said he'd introduce mandatory service for 18 year olds." Me:"...he's trying to crash the plane with no survivors, he has to be, why else would he say that?"

[@TheAllRounderMemes]

Benjamin 'oopsie doopsie' Netanyahu

[@PizeFish]

mistakes happen Israel few weeks ago also struck down a building with Israeli troops inside of it because of miscommunication this is war and it's sad but mistakes happen

[@paultomkiel7008]

Hearing the Israeli Occupational Forces saying they are "investigating themselves" would be hilarious if it weren't for the fact they are executing a genocide

[@PizeFish]

The reason for Israel investigating is because Israel has strong judiciary system because they're democracy and this is not genocide it's a war of retaliation to invasion by hamas

[@NaenaeGaming]

@@PizeFishHow does targetting refugee camps where half of the population are children and even more are people too young to have even supported Hamas at the last election equate to retaliation?

[@PizeFish]

@@NaenaeGaming Israel first Tells civilians to leave before they start military actions not to mention this strike wasn't in a humanitarian center

[@NaenaeGaming]

@@PizeFish There are no “humanitarian centres” left in Gaza. At the start of the war, Israel displaced thousands of civilians in a manner already violating international law, ordering them to go south *into Rafah* which it then designated as a safe zone. Now, it is attacking that safe zone and supposedly telling civilians to go east. Given the IDF’s recent actions, how long can we really say that this will remain a safe place to stay?

[@PizeFish]

@@NaenaeGaming international law contradicts itself if it says you can't evacuate civilians out of warzones but can't also kill the civilians so what will it be?by the way I can show you a map of the humanitarian centers if you're so inclined

[@nathanielouzana]

Israel: *bombards a place meant for humanitarian aid of some sort Netanyahu: Oops, I did it again

[@Sultschiem]

Worked for the US and Russia for decades, no? Or are is the west pissed, because Israel is killstealing?

[@PizeFish]

That's lies of hamas if you want I'll give you links to the investigation reporting to show what really happened

[@Kris_96]

Sicne when did killing thousands of people, committing a genocide become a way of "defending" yourself and your country???

[@oyeahjustcomenting]

Womp Womp don’t kidnap Jews and not give them back

[@zachb1706]

Explain how this is a genocide? Precision strikes with a chain of command?

[@PizeFish]

This is not genocide it's merely a slogan calling it a genocide because Israeli is after hamas not the Palestinian people genocide would be what Germans did to the Jews or what the Rwandan genocide that killed 800k people was

[@user-op8fg3ny3j]

Imagine if the Germans said oopsie about WW2 and their actions were a regretable mistake...

[@TheDarkTemplar3791]

Although I dont want to defend Israels actions in any way, there is still a large difference between what germans did in WW2 and what Israel is doing now in Gaza

[@Mohamed-sj2oz]

​@@TheDarkTemplar3791What is the difference?

[@user-jt3bf8ws5q]

@Mohamed-sj2oz Israel is yet to be at war with a major nation

[@bikergirluk8059]

@@TheDarkTemplar3791I dunno. There are some horror stories out there about dead Palestinians being returned without organs, prisoners having limbs amputated because their restraints were on too long and too tight. If true, that’s horrific.

[@CedarHunt]

​@@bikergirluk8059That's obvious nonsense.

[@burningphoenix6679]

Well. Israel finally showed us the “beheaded babies”.

[@deutschermichel5807]

no? Where?

[@user-op8fg3ny3j]

@@deutschermichel5807 There's confirmation that one baby got beheaded during this strike on the Rafah safe zone

[@danutbelbe7495]

Actually there are beheaded babies. Look for “Bearing Witness to the October 7 Massacre” Its bodycan footage from Hamas members from that day. I dont think you will watch it tho

[@WhichDoctor1]

For more context. The idf reported early on that Hamas had beheaded as many as 40 babies on October 7th. And despite no evidence being provided that claim was widely shared and reported as fact by western media. Ever since the idf and Israeli government have refused to produced any evidence. And independent investigators both International and Israeli have also found no evidence suggesting a single baby was beheaded by Hamas on the 7th. But to my knowledge none of the major media outlets that reported that fake news as fact have publicly retracted it

[@CedarHunt]

​@@user-op8fg3ny3jConfirmation from where?

[@BeastlyMussel61]

Why so we still give them a blank check?

[@battalionlead4128]

“They must take every precaution to protect civilians” I’m sure we’ve heard that far to often

[@aye3678]

I'm getting sick and tired of Israel's "whoopsie. We made a mistake. Sorry" response.

[@PizeFish]

Tell that to hamas who hides inside humanitarian centers

[@ryandanngetich2524]

@@PizeFish IS that a justification for bombing those centers ?

[@PizeFish]

@@ryandanngetich2524 I don't know if a criminal is holding hostage does that mean he gets indefinite immunity?

[@karimabidi8312]

After saying officialy that they planned it and they are attacking "precise"...

[@PizeFish]

@@karimabidi8312 well that's silly they didn't plan on killing so many civilians it was secondary explosions that caused all the casualties imagine if you're Israel and each time civilians die you get shunned why keep doing?there is no reason it's war. Hamas hides in humanitarian centers it is what it is

[@frocco7125]

Damn I wonder, who will young people vote for? -The guy who wants to give them voting rights -The guy who wants to draft them into war? 🤔

[@Razzy_D9111]

Its a genocide, why we pretend is not. Why you are not outraged.

[@TurinTurambar200]

The same reason Egypt isn't going to let a single Gazan through the border into their country.

[@adamelghalmi9771]

@@TurinTurambar200 would that be the reason no jew was allowed in europe for 2 millennia?

[@PizeFish]

How is that genocide?hamas invaded Israel.- Israel retaliating is genocide? Hamas leadership vowed to do it again what would your big brain do?

[@elel-ww5nf]

Claiming that what happened in Gaza is genocide is diminishing and neglecting real genocides, like the holocaust, Armenian genocide and holodumur

[@cgt3704]

Netanyahu be like: "if you sanction us then you are anti-semitic"

[@odelyaholiday9519]

That’s actually kinda true

[@PizeFish]

Because that's sanctions for a state retaliating to war hamas started it's the same as sanctioning Ukraine for the war Russia started that's batshit insane or plain and simple antisemitic

[@Alan-ww8vi]

@@odelyaholiday9519 Surely this must be sarcasm. I can't fathom anyone with so few brain cells that would think that.

[@odelyaholiday9519]

@@Alan-ww8vi what about sanctions against china, Lebanon, Iraq, Saudi Arabia…. Those are just countries that come to mind. Why sanction Israel but not them when they committed way worse atrocities then Israel if you don’t have a problem with Jews?

[@odelyaholiday9519]

@@Alan-ww8vi *the Jewish state of Israel

[@bezimeni2000]

Give voting rights to 16 years old is dumbest idea i heard this year

[@ChineseKiwi]

You assume adults are smarter voters 😂

[@bezimeni2000]

@@ChineseKiwi not really but if adults aren't smart voters image that but with still undeveloped brain and you got a 16 year old

[@zachb1706]

@@bezimeni2000undeveloped brain and little world experience.

[@0ptic0p22]

Uk politics gives no choice

[@toyotaprius79]

Sinn Féin....

[@goose9515]

Transphobic liberal party or transphobic neoliberal party

[@JaegerDreadful]

@@goose9515 Yeah what's up with the UK being so fucking transphobic? It's weird how many transphobes you have there.

[@jared4walsh]

TLDR is now BBC.

[@MarechalVI]

Israel: [Carries out war crimes] US: "Israel, you should be more careful." Israel: [Carries out more war crimes] US: "Israel, you should be more careful." Repeat, repeat, repeat. How many people have to die before the US puts its foot down?

[@muhammadhabibieamiro3639]

I was wondering when you will upload

[@RoyalLegend1000]

WOW! 06:51 that's actually incredible

[@darkless60]

Something happen at TLDRNews? There weren’t posts for 3 days

[@blufferfish0896]

I love the “good news” section

[@BoringopinionLMP]

More problems then peace

[@ErmisSouldatos]

Iran promising that they will use their Uranium peacefully is literally the scene from The Dictator where Aladeen adresses the people of Waddiya to announce the nuclear program and he is like "it will only be used for peaceful purposes and defnitely not to attack Isr- oh boy"

[@sessan9450]

Lmao i thought of the exact same scene

[@447GHT]

well there used to be monitors and sanctions snap backs in place to prevent that. thank Trump for that “used to”

[@EverettBurger]

If the courts have no authority to enforce a decision, then is that decision really legally binding?

[@zachb1706]

So can someone explain how Israel destroys Hamas without attacking in Rafah?

[@neo-physics]

Regarding rafah @potus @secblinken what happened to that "red line"?

[@ELS-tone]

Will you release a correction on the Rafah story now that more information has been released?

[@AvrahamYairStern]

If you're saying "All eyes on Rafah" at the moment, I ask you, where were your eye on October 7th?

[@simonjabbour-fz3gc]

so we're not talking about the beheaded babies ?

[@oriontigley5089]

So wait, missles *came* from Rafah before Isreal's strike? Doesn't that prove Isreal was telling the truth about Hamas using Rafah as a shield?

[@gidi3250]

From what I know the place the missiles where fired from where hit with returned fire, then sometime later a few blocks away a vehicle with ammo/fuel in it was moving/standing still and the idf hit it and caused an explosion, some say the idf waited until the vechial entered the refugee area before blowing it up while others said why didn't they wait for it to leave the refugee area as Isreal did say they had been following the vechial for a while before blowing it up.

[@zachb1706]

Of course Hamas uses civilians as shields. They’ve been doing it all along

[@nsk370]

It does - and the fact that Hamas militants were killed in the strike also does. Regardles of justification of Israeli rationale, Hamas is using human shields and protected areas for military purposes everywhere, that should be clear as day by now. Which by the way is a severe war crime.

[@hblaub]

Tory 1: We need young voters... Tory 2: Let's force them to be slaves... Young person 3: Yeah! Yippie! I will *definitely* not vote for Labour

[@Arab_Rayman_and_TF2_Enjoyer]

Alright so are we gonna be making bets if Israel will be pulling out of Rafa like the last time or will they keep on going at it?

[@shaesmith2831]

Yeah definitely double down even if Israelis don’t want it. Bibi wants to survive politically and keeping the far right and religious nationalist on side is vital for his coalition. Hence why we’re already seeing settlements in Gaza and a ramping up of settlements in the West Bank

[@kingofhearts3185]

​@@shaesmith2831 The man himself isn't popular, the war is. Unless there are new polls I haven't seen you can point to.

[@shaesmith2831]

@@kingofhearts3185 oh sorry I should’ve worded what I said better. What I meant was Bibi would continue into Rafa even if it was unpopular with Israelis. I know the war has very high support in Israel although the conduct and continuation of the war are at least controversial if not disapproved

[@tarumtrue2834]

ethier if u suppourt israel or palestine we can all agree that the things happening in rafah is tragic

[@elvangulley3210]

Dont shoot rockets from there them. It's stupid to expect one side to sit back and do nothing as the other shoots rockets behind human shields.

[@user-op8fg3ny3j]

@@elvangulley3210 it's called guerilla warfare like Vietnam

[@polytopiahu1015]

@@elvangulley3210 What he's saying is no matter who u blame or who u support the civilian death part is tragic

[@veeaxis3892]

@@user-op8fg3ny3j Did Vietnam have rockets? Huh... I learned something new

[@elvangulley3210]

@polytopiahu1015 so was the civilians deaths on Oct 7th but none of you were to broken up about that It's giving hypocrisy it's giving antisemitism Palestinians have been shooting rockets into Israel for decades aiming randomly Into population centers without a care in the world where was your outrage then

[@r7ahtesham885]

I want everyone to understand, this right here is nothing new, this exact type of scenario have been going on for years, hell, it's been going on since the war even began. I can't believe people are talking about this now , and even then, so casually.

[@CedarHunt]

It's very interesting to see when Europe and the Arab countries decide to feign moral outrage.

[@flavio7180]

It's actually quite hilarious, in a dark way. A lot of them countries in Europe didn't care when civilians were dying in, say, December 2023, but now it has gone too far apparently. "I could deal with 20,000 civilian deaths, but man, 30,000 made me feel bad". What a joke, and don't even get me started on the US and the Arab countries.

[@andrewpritt8739]

How are you supposed to fight a war if you let the country exist?

[@dulio12385]

EU Response: Muh Rafah! US Response: *shrug* Shit happens. Israel Response: *troll face*

[@Ruddpocalypse]

Damn, other than the good news section, this was a pretty upsetting news day

[@farright118]

16 year olds have no idea what politics is. Stupid policy However I can agree that 16yr olds that work full time should be allowed to vote

[@umutneo]

Old people voted for brexit. Maybe you are wrong…

[@123GGameerz]

eu and us said they were gonna sanction iran defusing the situation lmao, but israel is special i guess hahaha

[@rusbea.2279]

If Israel proactively says mishap, it means genocide isn’t big enough of a word to describe the situation

[@willjapheth23789]

So how do you describe ww2 and most wars since ww2 then? How do you describe the war in Sudan and Ukraine right now. Just to list a few, the list of tragedies is way longer outside of Palestinian, but I hear mostly crickets about it.

[@friskycuber]

@@willjapheth23789 Stop it with the "whataboutism"

[@GrammarNaziAUS]

​@@willjapheth23789WW2? Just as bad, if not just outright far worse. You ever seen pictures of Hamburg post-bombing? The entire city was levelled. Nothing but rubble. Ukraine? What do you think the West has been doing with its support of Ukraine and condemnation of Russia? What *can* they do when Russia bombs electricity infrastructure during winter that they aren't already doing? More sanctions (somehow)? Intervene in the war outright? As for Sudan, that one is mostly outside public consciousness. Unlike Israel, who's supposed to be a Western country, and with a complex history that makes it easy to be on either side of the aisle, Sudan just doesn't appeal to public consciousness. The actions taken in Sudan are essentially completely unrelated to the West, outside its once colonial nature, the West has essentially nothing to do with any of it.

[@a_kazakis]

@@friskycuber He is right though. The "g" word has lost all meaning since this conflict begun. There has been FAR worse wars in recent years that were never called g*cides.

[@willjapheth23789]

@@friskycuber get a less unhinged standard for genocide.

[@jonathanlindroos5329]

To me, Sunak's proposal sounds very reasonable. It works great here in Finland, and considering the UK:s current lack of manpower in the military, it seems like a completely logical next step to take.

[@zachb1706]

Finland has a good reason for it though. What reason does Britain have? No ones going to take Britain

[@andrewzebic6201]

It's factually reasonable, but political suicide to suddenly introduce without warning at an election

[@Thermalions]

The only parts of the public who will vote for it in any number are those who wouldn't be impacted (not 18 / don't have kids), and think the youth these days need a good wake-up call. It's a terrible policy to take to an election in the current climate of recent and current military actions across the world, especially when the party need to bolster their votes. It's not like they're in the position of having so much support they can afford to alienate voters.

[@Ganjor420]

My country loves this war criminal, no matter what. And I can’t believe 80 years after WW2 this is STILL our thing 🤦‍♂️

[@sarahmesser6056]

Love you guys but the moment you're trying to say that deforestation is not a part of these people's problems, and the fact that KZbin tried to steer me away from posting on this let me know that there's more to this than you're letting on

[@SammyInnit]

No one has any bottle when it comes to Israel and the EU is no exception. I expect nothing to happen, which is not surprising.

[@eddouglas]

cancer can be cured with fasting and ketogenics apparently - but there's no money in that so here's some drugs ...

[@killpop8255]

Condemnation before explanation? Sounds like those USA LEO shootings.

[@juanfervalencia]

Nethanyahu hasn't realized that Israel is the third Temple and that he is destroying it.

[@dinozocker_lp1465]

Hamas is trying to destroy Israel and erradicate all Jews wdym

[@danielbagyula4394]

Iran, a country, one of the biggest gas and oil producers in the world, best positioned to harvest wind and solar power, probably the energy richest country on earth insists that they need nuclear power and they are ready to bare heavy sanctions just for the clean nuclear energy. Amazing how green is that government!

[@54032Zepol]

Will the e.u. shoot itself in the foot?

[@zepher664]

Lol "devastating and heartbreaking." Yeah, to the international credibility of the US.

[@aneggselentfellow5607]

wow the tories will definitely win the younger vote for sure

[@Ominous_Walrus]

They really made ben say bigmeowster69😂

[@Mr.DalekLK]

Israel, Russia, Belarus, other country names and similar methods

[@HansVonMannschaft]

Didn't Amnesty International criticised Ukraine for fighting from civilian areas? It's odd that we haven't heard a peep from them now that Hamas is doing it.

[@MetallicReg]

Because in Ukraine, this was „news“ for many western observers. In Gaza this was always standard to hide behind as many civilians as possible. They even intentionally have kindergartens above missile sites and command points.

[@a_kazakis]

Shhhh don't bring logic here, it's not welcome.

[@arnoldmbuthia2687]

The EU can not condamn Israël.

[@alisdair98]

Don’t get me wrong love tldr but the editing has just gotten weird like the way the cut there scenes add abit of you music or something also what’s going on with yer socials ye are news source would ye not keep them up to date

[@SecretSquirrel987]

ITS CHEWSDAY

[@adineatha9766]

West Bank, Gaza Strip, Sinai Peninsula, Jordan and Northern Saudi Arabia belongs to Israel 🇮🇱✡️

[@lynox172]

No it won’t be enforced Scholz might speak strong, but he can’t risk a vote of no confidence which the CDU would trigger ( currently the result of election would be the worst in the party’s history). For the rest of Europe the position has always been clear : Israel has the rights agreed upon since its foundation, meaning the EU and US won’t act in interference to military actions enacted against Hamas which is classified as „terrorist organization“ technically prohibiting negotiations, this is because both parties know that this would come to bite them later ( since should there be a new escalation the west would be to blame). At the current time it seems that the agreement made by Israel and its allies is that they can go ahead with their operation as long as the backslash at home is not great enough that it majorly affects Muslim voters. Suprise it has should all elections result as currently anticipated Israel will be able to continue its efforts in 2025 with both Germany, USA and France entering their most conservative governments in a long time ( for Germany 30 years for France 15 and you know Trump)

[@johnwinter7597]

Seems strange that rockets are flying out of that area but every one is blaming just Israel

[@nenasiek]

The e.u already see hamas as terrorist, theres no need to call them out cause thats what terrorist do

[@odelyaholiday9519]

True

[@matthummel8306]

Probably because Israel is the occupier?

[@johnwinter7597]

@@matthummel8306 um no it was Israeli land for thousands of years and because of Muslims displaced them from Israel and all other places they called home now that this is there last and only home they have they won’t give up or back down! I mean come on they have been murderd and completely destroyed in every middle eastern country they lived in just in the last hundred years. Before saying anything so uneducated you might want to read something and not listen to CNN OR FOX NEWS

[@odelyaholiday9519]

@@matthummel8306 Israel tried giving them a state on more then 8 occasions. Guess what? THE PALESTINIANS REFUSED A STATE!!

[@willemvanriet7160]

Germany liking to always be on the wrong side of history...

[@TheRealEtaoinShrdlu]

Where is "Papu [sic] New Guinnea"?!

[@deutschermichel5807]

sic?

[@TurinTurambar200]

​@@deutschermichel5807A bracketed sic indicates that the spelling and grammatical error is from the original quoted text, not made by the person doing the quoting.

[@deutschermichel5807]

@@TurinTurambar200 oh thanks a lot! You mean like the Latin word sic?

[@TurinTurambar200]

@@deutschermichel5807 Yes, its exactly that actually.

[@billyLego4855]

Isreal: ill do the brexit appouch, and trump slap addition....

[@mattking9220]

Answer to the title question: No. Next question.

[@NozzaFox]

Instead of blaming Israel for everything. Why does the west not pressure Hamas to surrender? The “palestinians” have no one to blame but themselves for every war.

[@fruitiscool6573]

Even Israelis don't support Netanyahu's actions, you're just deluded by your Big Brother propoganda

[@adamelghalmi9771]

dude, hostage families here literally beg for a ceasefire so their kids dont die

[@nenasiek]

We already see hamas as terrorist, we dont expect them to act in a good way. We do expect it from Israel

[@lawrencehawkins7198]

Israel. And when you let a child do whatever he wants, to whom ever he wants, nevertheless, you feed him, cloth him, give him BILLIONS? How long do you think it will be before he turns on you?

[@arvidgreat]

Not gonna mention that there was weapons and two high leader there. It was the explosion of hamas ammonition that started the fire. Get your facts right!

[@skinwalker69420]

Really, Israel just doesn't know how to fight this kind of war. There might be pretty lines on maps to indicate where most countries in the middle east begin and end, but in reality most countries in the middle east look more like maps in the game Crusader Kings 3, with hundreds of little partisan groups and de facto sovereign nations. All that to say that you can't fight wars in these regions like you can a traditional war in a developed part of the world. Not only does running in there to kill people just make people hate you more, but you'll get more partisan groups there, making the middle east even more complicated. Really, what they need to be doing is fighting this war in the minds of the Palestinians by helping them, so they reject Hamas and come to peaceful terms with the Israelis (with less walls between them, perhaps even free movement between the countries), but I know they won't do that because the IDF has a history of randomly kidnapping Palestinians in the night then releasing them just to make them more fearful. They're too blinded by their prejudice and hatred to be able to properly make the problem end.

[@oxtristynxo583]

You would be dumb if you did sanction them (1.) They did nothing wrong nearly every country would do the same in the same situation (2.) Medical Instruments is 1 of there top exports so that will hurt you more than them

[@aye3678]

Found the zionist nazi.

[@timogul]

I don't know how there could be an expectation of "safe areas for civilians" when Hamas deliberately use those civilians as shields. The condemnation should not be against the IDF, but against Hamas for putting these civilians lives at risk.

[@user-op8fg3ny3j]

So when the SS rounded up civilians for punishment, you'd blame the partisans for it?

[@kingofhearts3185]

Very true, but not something they care to admit.

[@yaboipalps8616]

We now know the strike wasnt israel's fault. it was either a weapons cache or a fuel tank. once again proving theres no genocide and no nothing.

[@MrBrandonfulton]

These attacks are absolutely devastating to see. There is a lot in I will condemn Israel on. But, one question begs to be answered. Why aren't the hostages released? This gives Israel a very strong leg to stand on. All of the EU would be doing the same as Israel, if their country got invaded/attacked and the attacker took hostages. So the EU can shut the hell up, respectably. Israel will continue to do whatever it takes to get its citizens back. The moment all the hostages are accounted for in Jerusalem, is the moment this war starts to wind down and true talks to end hostility will take place. HAMAS knows this. So no matter how bad the optics look, Israel will get its citizens back, either alive or in a body bag. HAMAS is causing all of this as long as they continue to hold hostages. 121 unaccounted for hostages as of 4 days ago.

[@sajadking666]

Love from iraq

[@shaeleable]

Video has shown that the strike did not happen in the safe zone, the strike was over 1.5km from the safe zone but there were rockets nearby showing that hamass was storing weapons in that area and that caused the fires

[@Trsand111]

I still don’t understand the special attention or standard Israel is being held to. In every urban combat environment ever this sort of thing happens. That doesn’t mean it’s not tragic, but Israel isn’t doing anything especially brutal

[@archyarchfiendx2938]

I literally don’t gaf about Palestine.

[@ChuffedLemon]

You really should. The dehumanization of any population and its support from geopolitical heavyweights like the US should scare the hell out of you.

[@KW-oc3se]

Full support to Israel from a Bharatiya 🇮🇳 Sanātani 🕉️. Both Bharat 🇮🇳 and Israel share common adversaries.

[@deutschermichel5807]

the wrath of the almighty God?

[@MetatronsRevenge613]

Which is?

[@user-op8fg3ny3j]

@@MetatronsRevenge613 They both love to bully Muslims

[@memeconsumer773]

@@MetatronsRevenge613 The will of the people?

[@cyclomb]

@@memeconsumer773 More like the hygiene

[@robert2375]

Great idea mandatory service, hope this guy gets elected

[@ulala9729]

is this channel islamoleft channel

[@kostas0352]

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