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Issa Rae To Go Independent After Cancellation Of Black Shows 'Our Stories Are Less Of A Priority'

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@jumpmanejones
@jumpmanejones 6 ай бұрын
HBO has constantly said "hey it was a big success BUT ...we are not picking the show back up." LoveCraft country and so on!!!
@larrymarshall8900
@larrymarshall8900 6 ай бұрын
HBO cancelled a lot of great shows in the past and present.
@ChanceJolivette
@ChanceJolivette 6 ай бұрын
Color purple bombed once ppl found out it was a musical
@itdoesmatteryep8822
@itdoesmatteryep8822 6 ай бұрын
Also many people are kind of tired of the story and narrative
@badseedent4827
@badseedent4827 6 ай бұрын
Misandrist movies have bombed for the last three years
@ImOnPoint
@ImOnPoint 6 ай бұрын
EXACTLY! Plus, they need to leave classics alone...
@simonmaduxx6777
@simonmaduxx6777 6 ай бұрын
Im not going to see nobody musical.
@Tamaz662
@Tamaz662 6 ай бұрын
I hate hearing ppl blaming Taraji for the performance of color purple. People didn't want to see the remake period. That's all. It didn't matter how many celebrities they put in it. I actually enjoyed the film but could have still lived happily without it. Everyone did Amazing though 🖤 🙏🏾
@abjkushanu7758
@abjkushanu7758 6 ай бұрын
They not blaming her. They saying the rollout for the movie seemed more about taraji and other black actresses not getting paid/struggle more than it was about the actual movie
@hairforum5380
@hairforum5380 6 ай бұрын
Exactly we were good without it
@twils1132
@twils1132 6 ай бұрын
You are so right. Most everyone I know are only seeing it because it is a black film but don’t really want to see it because they feel it can’t be as good as the original. Taraji has nothing to do with it. Honestly, from the moment I heard of the remake, I wasn’t excited because I had already seen the original and it was great.
@Dailymemes9000
@Dailymemes9000 6 ай бұрын
All it is just more trauma on screen
@FNJ720
@FNJ720 6 ай бұрын
My exact thoughts. And why make it a musical? Why not a new story?
@yachekabrown8622
@yachekabrown8622 6 ай бұрын
I’m very sad they canceled Rap S***!!! It was a well written show, funny and also relatable. Definitely will be missed!!! Hope Issa can bring it back. I WATCHED IT!!! And told everyone I could to do so as well.
@aykazielenokk4022
@aykazielenokk4022 6 ай бұрын
Really they canceled that? Damn that was my show.
@Hi_Tamera
@Hi_Tamera 6 ай бұрын
I have a whole reaction channel reacting to Rap Sh!t. That was a good show!!
@jolamari
@jolamari 6 ай бұрын
Such a good show!
@TheEsotericChild_
@TheEsotericChild_ 6 ай бұрын
Justice4RapShit
@greenwooddistrictstudios
@greenwooddistrictstudios 6 ай бұрын
FACTS! That was a surprise to me as well!
@TrayLaw
@TrayLaw 6 ай бұрын
Pam Grier was the IT girl... believe!
@jolamari
@jolamari 6 ай бұрын
💯
@BNA_Est.1988
@BNA_Est.1988 6 ай бұрын
And still is 🔥🔥🔥
@indiefilmmillennial8338
@indiefilmmillennial8338 6 ай бұрын
Pam was a 10!
@MoonMoon-fx1op
@MoonMoon-fx1op 6 ай бұрын
​@@indiefilmmillennial8338plus 10! 😂
@safwatnuman4297
@safwatnuman4297 6 ай бұрын
I hate they canceled Rap Sh!t. It was a dope show and seemed to really be finding its footing in the second season.
@tashawnasanders77
@tashawnasanders77 6 ай бұрын
Yes they should bring it to Netflix..Prime or Hulu not to many ppl have HBO
@safwatnuman4297
@safwatnuman4297 6 ай бұрын
That’s the thing though… None of these streaming shows will last if the content doesn’t bring in new subscribers. If Rap Sh!t wasn’t important enough for Black people to get HBO Max it gets cut. Thats just business. We say we want Black shows but aren’t supporting them.
@IamnotJokic
@IamnotJokic 6 ай бұрын
Maybe shows are being cancelled because not enough of the targeted demographic is supporting it. Money talks in media and if the show ain’t making money the networks aren’t going to subsidize it just for diversity and inclusion. That’s like wnba players complaining about their salaries compared to nba players when the wnba itself is a money losing business. The nba literally has to subsidize it at this point to keep it alive.
@oladeebiazazi4538
@oladeebiazazi4538 6 ай бұрын
@@IamnotJokicYea u got a point it’s business at the end of the day
@mannyjamms3797
@mannyjamms3797 6 ай бұрын
Rap s*** was a horrible show
@Ruthless74147
@Ruthless74147 6 ай бұрын
I think Issa's show problem (Rap Shit) issue was the network, i love the show but i believe because it was on MAX which is a extremely top platform the expectations were to high for her. Majority of Max shows are emmy winners targeting a different audience in my opinion. Now understand I am not suggesting her work is not high Calibur enough, I just feel that MAX sets the bar is too high at this point. I think if she went the 50 Cent route and took her vision to Starz she would have had more success. just like the Power Universe or P Valley, Starz is more of a platform for her vision and it supports entertainment for her target audience
@LyrixNChill
@LyrixNChill 6 ай бұрын
I agree. Max wasn't the joint. I was hoping the show would continue on another network. BET even. Damn, it was a good show FUBU
@DualityUnlimited
@DualityUnlimited 6 ай бұрын
Max wasn’t the issue given its less pressure of expectations than an actual HBO series. Insecure is one of the most successful HBO shows of an Era. Rap Sh!t wasn’t marketed properly. It’s a cutting edge Hip Hop show with a huge potential Target Demographic. I don’t think the Writing and Acting were Emmy level but the show was finding itself and constantly improving. This could have been a major Ratings success if not also a Critically Acclaim series.
@TriggaTreDay
@TriggaTreDay 6 ай бұрын
Just because something is Emmy winning or nominated doesn’t mean it was an actual good show. These people are running the show and they control what wins and what gets nominated. Sometimes yall really gotta put those labels on the back burner and look at the reality of the situation for what is most likely is. She said what she said because that’s her experience from working in that industry. Yall don’t be telling regular everyday people that they are lying when they are talking about the hardships they are experiencing in their field of work, but yall love making it seem like black people in Hollywood are making stuff up went they are pointing out clear systemic racial issues they are still experiencing even in 2024. There are waaaaay too many subpar white shows that have gotten a 2-3 series release before it was canned. They will kill off our stuff especially if it is building us in too much of a powerful light. They hate that.
@DualityUnlimited
@DualityUnlimited 6 ай бұрын
@@TriggaTreDay I wholeheartedly agree with every word you shared!
@TriggaTreDay
@TriggaTreDay 6 ай бұрын
@@DualityUnlimited 💯 🙏
@geechums9138
@geechums9138 6 ай бұрын
I think everybody black going independent is a good thing.
@larrymarshall8900
@larrymarshall8900 6 ай бұрын
Yeah but are they gonna put their own money up financed their own products or a big time studio or producer to back up their dream product. Let's say that John Legend wanted to bring back Underground that ran two seasons on TNT I believe. John is millionaire that can pay the whole cast and crew but he might need a big time producer or director to help finance the show again.
@geechums9138
@geechums9138 6 ай бұрын
@@larrymarshall8900 I'm sure there will be major drawbacks to building but we gotta start somewhere.
@goodfella1401
@goodfella1401 6 ай бұрын
It's not. Just look at how Tubi is viewed. Tons of original stuff by black people and almost all of it is cheap made trash. People like Issa Rae just need to accept that you need to put amazing quality and then hope a big audience discovers it due to great word of mouth. American Faction for example is is an amazing movie and gets great word of mouth because of that. Compare that to The Color Purple that is now a musical which not many people were asking for in the first place when the original was a straight drama and The Book of Clarence that is so over the place tone wise that it's even hard to say what genre the movie is. At times it's almost a spoof movie and at times it tries to be a real drama with biblical undertones. Turns out there's not many people that look for The Passion of the Christ mixed with Monty Python and the Holy Grail in one movie
@geechums9138
@geechums9138 6 ай бұрын
@@goodfella1401 Just because individual movies haven't done well doesn't mean we can't build our own path in entertainment. Again we have to start somewhere. Not to mention there are black owned studios and even production companies that are building like Kevon Stage studios, Tyler Perry has his and Oprah. They are all pretty new and still put out some higher quality shows and films. It's ok to not start off at the top. It's ok to take a step back if necessary. The we push towards having our own the more we can put out. We're just going to have to take the good with the bad until it's all good.
@geechums9138
@geechums9138 6 ай бұрын
Didn't mean to leave out the Waynes' family. We can do it if we can all work together.
@HazelAyes1
@HazelAyes1 6 ай бұрын
The nationwide release of American Fiction was in December. Most theaters near me released it just last week with limited showtimes and others aren't playing it at all 🤨 People can't support what they can't watch.
@peachjuice2730
@peachjuice2730 6 ай бұрын
This!
@marriejames01
@marriejames01 6 ай бұрын
I wanted to see it but I’d have to drive over an hour away.
@mscstapleton
@mscstapleton 6 ай бұрын
I think we need more films starring black ppl that aren't solely tied to our trauma - just tell a fckn story starring black ppl In the late 90s we got a lot of classic black films that were just telling stories - Love & Basketball, The Wood, Best Man, Love Jones, Drumline... we had the floor to show we aren't a monolith and all we got were stories surrounding the trauma that is being black! The movies are supposed to be entertaining not a walk down struggle lane! Color purple - has a specific following but personally the original traumatized me as a kid so I didn't wanna see it lol Book of Clarence - was for a specific audience Origin - I did see and it was the most profound movie I've seen... may be ever
@iamladyblack1188
@iamladyblack1188 6 ай бұрын
Book of Clarence was great! It’s not for a specific audience imo. It’s a dramedy set in Jerusalem during the time of Jesus. A great story with an even greater message. Everyone should go see it!!!
@mscstapleton
@mscstapleton 6 ай бұрын
@@iamladyblack1188 I'm sure it was good but its a period piece heavily influenced by religion... that is a specific audience lol
@bellfaith1065
@bellfaith1065 6 ай бұрын
Purposefully being done to keep yall on the Dem plantation.....same reason mainstream rap promotes degeneracy... its propaganda.
@bellfaith1065
@bellfaith1065 6 ай бұрын
I don't think yall get it...they are purposefully only allowing certain types of movies to be made to control blk people💯 they don't care about yall being entertained, they use movies to push propaganda 2 keep you voting the way they want you to...say with rap music, they'll only pay for degeneracy to be promoted.... they use it to influence the blk community💯
@MoonMoon-fx1op
@MoonMoon-fx1op 6 ай бұрын
FACTS.
@latishabuckner8231
@latishabuckner8231 6 ай бұрын
Dont blame the audience for not going to see The Color Purple, nobody asked for that. Why is it always black trauma movies anyway. We like action, thrillers, fantasy, and horror movies too Oprah.
@filmadcamp1512
@filmadcamp1512 6 ай бұрын
And shows about drug dealers. Black folks seem to never tire of those drug dealer stories.
@BNA_Est.1988
@BNA_Est.1988 6 ай бұрын
Because it’s Pam Grier, I completely understand
@carme153
@carme153 6 ай бұрын
Blaming Taraji for Color Purple's revenue is so wack and just doesn't make any sense at all. She spoke about unfair pay, everyone can relate to that and it's good she's shining a light on it too.
@Leenee1771
@Leenee1771 6 ай бұрын
The marketing is lacking. That is why there is low viewership. Better marketing strategies would give more attention to the black shows visibility.
@conradblack779
@conradblack779 6 ай бұрын
The fact that black people make up only 14% of the American population plays a major part in why black centric tv shows and movies fail to do particularly well over time. People of all races just get bored pretty quickly of the same shit being regurgitated over and over again especially when its race based
@slam600G
@slam600G 6 ай бұрын
I knew the show biz was trash when LoveCraft Country was canceled !!!
@amac23557
@amac23557 6 ай бұрын
Damn right
@jlawrencewat
@jlawrencewat 6 ай бұрын
I wish folks looked more into why it stopped. There was no more content. If they would've continued it without content it would've been like the last two seasons of game of thrones
@teewhite24
@teewhite24 6 ай бұрын
this the oneeeeeee
@juiceman_3
@juiceman_3 6 ай бұрын
Rap Sh*t did not have enough viewers. This is literally public knowledge
@BLC452
@BLC452 6 ай бұрын
No ones going to the movies like that anymore. I feel like you have to have some sort of an amazing roll out to fill a theater now days.
@javiruiz8365
@javiruiz8365 6 ай бұрын
A bunch of movies did really well this year! But I do agree because people are more picky these days because we have so much content.
@preciousjohnson1433
@preciousjohnson1433 6 ай бұрын
I agree wholeheartedly
@8grove
@8grove 6 ай бұрын
It’s still jumping
@javiruiz8365
@javiruiz8365 6 ай бұрын
@@preciousjohnson1433 I’m late 30s and as a child you could go to the theaters and it would be 6 dollars or 10 bucks something reasonable. Now that I live in NYC the entire ordeal is extremely expensive. 3 people is 100 dollars or more for a movie that I can stream on all the platforms that I pay for also. HBO, Prime, Netflix, Hulu, Disney and I’m sure I’m forgetting another one that I pay for. So I’m more selective and I rather just go to a Broadway show if I’m honest
@dominantlyd4085
@dominantlyd4085 6 ай бұрын
And even then people still stream or watch illegal uploads online.
@qbconnect2883
@qbconnect2883 6 ай бұрын
Pam Grier was in 1993 Doggy Dogg world video. So Snoop would've already met her before a movie in 2001
@BluJae93
@BluJae93 6 ай бұрын
Pam looked amazing in that movie too
@pmarcusb
@pmarcusb 6 ай бұрын
Going to a movie theater seems weird now. We pay for all these different streaming services but they expect people to also go to the movie theater to see a new movie. I'll wait until it goes on one of the services.
@theophilusjones6024
@theophilusjones6024 6 ай бұрын
a lot of people still go to the movies, last year a ton of movies pretty much reached a billion dollars in box office
@mylesgriffin3985
@mylesgriffin3985 6 ай бұрын
Some of these theaters refuse to show these movies
@TELC-yc7yk
@TELC-yc7yk 6 ай бұрын
All the black relationship comedy/drama movies/shows are similar. Then you have all these gangsta/dope dealers movies and shows. A lot of people get upset about Cleopatra being white in movies. Maybe someone black should make a movie about her. There are so many other things to make movies and shows about. When you see a black actor in something that is sci-fi, fantasy, or action/adventure. 99% of the time it wasn’t written, produced, or directed by a black person.
@Fsrjtyttzma
@Fsrjtyttzma 6 ай бұрын
Cleopatra wasn’t black! If anything she was biracial and she was Egyptian NOT African. If programming isn’t directed by blacks then there is a reason and that is that they ain’t good enough. EARN the right to produce and direct and then go do it. In the meantime keep your box ticking to yourself.
@mrlij6534
@mrlij6534 6 ай бұрын
Taraji's complaints are not the reason it failed. no one was interested in a lesbian remake of a classic- it was an unnecessary movie.
@filmadcamp1512
@filmadcamp1512 6 ай бұрын
It wasn't a lesbian remake. It was a musical remake. The author of the book is bisexual and so the book and the original movie had the same love triangle story between Shug Avery and Celie.
@kaylynevans7354
@kaylynevans7354 6 ай бұрын
A lot of these black movies forget to be good movies . When you market them as a black movie it turn a lot people away from it .
@larrymarshall8900
@larrymarshall8900 6 ай бұрын
Yeah I kind of wish people or producers and filmmakers stop saying this is a good black love story or say this a great black comedy film. How about saying that the film we made as an unit is a great story not a great black story. They gotta need to stop saying black this and black that when promoting their projects.
@conradblack779
@conradblack779 6 ай бұрын
Imagine if white people started making white movies and actually marketed them as such people would be losing their minds and rightly so. Black people make up like 14% of the American population trying to make movie after movie that only appeals to a tiny percentage of the country while regurgitating the same storyline over and over is never going to be profitable in the long run even black people will get bored of it eventually and every other race will just avoid it completely
@filmadcamp1512
@filmadcamp1512 6 ай бұрын
Actually not all black projects are marketed as a black movie by black media. White media tries to put it in a box which is something black actors complained about in the past. When Best Man II came out it was a box office success and topped all the movies opening weekend. White media got wind of it and started purposefully started labelling it a black movie in their write ups in order to pigeon hole it.
@marlo_millionaire
@marlo_millionaire 6 ай бұрын
Ain't nobody going to the movies anymore and it's to many shows on all of these different streaming services to keep up.
@theophilusjones6024
@theophilusjones6024 6 ай бұрын
A lot of people still go lol, u know how many great movies came out last year that had nearly a billion dollars in box office success
@greenwooddistrictstudios
@greenwooddistrictstudios 6 ай бұрын
They don't put the same energy or finances behind our films... period!
@bellfaith1065
@bellfaith1065 6 ай бұрын
I don't think yall get it...they are purposefully only allowing certain types of movies to be made to control blk people💯 they don't care about yall being entertained, they use movies to push propaganda 2 keep you voting the way they want you to...say with rap music, they'll only pay for degeneracy to be promoted.... they use it to influence the blk community💯
@conradblack779
@conradblack779 6 ай бұрын
Because black people make up 14% of the American population when you consistently make shows that only cater to black people at the expense of the other 86% of the countries interests they aren’t going to do particularly well, studios would be stupid to fund them to the same degree as other shows which arent race based like practically everything Issa Rae produces. She seems to be a bit of a one trick pony and not creative enough to to make shows that appeal to wider audiences hence why they are all getting cancelled because even black audiences get bored with them
@Blufishii
@Blufishii 6 ай бұрын
Yet they steal our ideas did you know the halftime superbowl show was because of living color[a black show] they stole it
@slam600G
@slam600G 6 ай бұрын
Ms Pam was one of them ones !!!! IYKYK.. Do your homework Pam Grier
@amarifromthesouth
@amarifromthesouth 6 ай бұрын
"She belong to the streets" 😂
@hobbyog4786
@hobbyog4786 6 ай бұрын
If shows make money they wouldn't be canceled..These rich folks care about money more than they care about race..
@maniac50ae14
@maniac50ae14 6 ай бұрын
Big Facts! But for some reason we keep thinking its about something else.
@supastar25
@supastar25 6 ай бұрын
Exactly...it's all about the bottom line...they will back whatever brings in the viewership or box-office
@filmadcamp1512
@filmadcamp1512 6 ай бұрын
Actually that isn't altogether true.They want white shows and producers who make money but they have an agenda to tell specific types of stores about black people - so they purposefully set black shows up to fail if the show isn't dealing in what they perceive a black show should be. The shows about drug dealers are always approved. They have conditioned us to think that if black folks are going to win an Oscar it has to be for a period piece, a slavery piece, a story about a bad mother, or a movie about black trauma. A black movie about a family like that which was shown in The Blindside would never be up for an Oscar. They purposefully bought the story about Nat Williams the slave who rebelled against his slave owners then targeted the director by bringing up an old-ass accusation in order to tank the movie - lest black folks got any ideas.
@Librascales10
@Librascales10 6 ай бұрын
Akademiks is right . Breakfast club is now geared to an older crowd thru all these politics topics and guest. Charla is bringing his political ties slowly change the direction of the show
@THEVIDEOARBITRATOR
@THEVIDEOARBITRATOR 6 ай бұрын
We had a big window and opportunity to show more of our art to people but it was all repetitive stuff, all trauma based as someone said below, more educational or revolving around the black experience, and non appealing to large audiences. I get it, at a time where we finally had more visibility we wanted to show what we went through but we forgot about telling great stories and mostly about profit. We can tell the stories we want but don't expect it to make a profit when it appeals to only 12 percent of the population max. Marketing is also a problem, production budgets as well.
@TamaraLindsay
@TamaraLindsay 6 ай бұрын
Exactly!! I agree, but I still showed my support. Also American Fiction is a movie about what you were just saying.
@THEVIDEOARBITRATOR
@THEVIDEOARBITRATOR 6 ай бұрын
@@TamaraLindsay I'm glad you showed your support. American Fiction seems interesting. I might check it out. How is it?
@TamaraLindsay
@TamaraLindsay 6 ай бұрын
@@THEVIDEOARBITRATOR it’s worth watching. It was fun to watch and there were funny moments
@THEVIDEOARBITRATOR
@THEVIDEOARBITRATOR 6 ай бұрын
@@TamaraLindsay thanks
@joshuamcclinton122
@joshuamcclinton122 6 ай бұрын
I don’t believe that’s always the case (ratings). Love Craft was on of the biggest shows on HBOMax and they cancelled it.
@thaneros
@thaneros 6 ай бұрын
Astronomy Club on Netflix was one of the best shows that nobody watched
@SoundsOfTheWild3
@SoundsOfTheWild3 6 ай бұрын
problem is the binge format on Netflix forces new shows to need to gain an audience fast. Otherwise it will get cancelled but its a self fulfilling prophecy because it makes people not want to start new shows if they fear it might just end up getting canceled.
@LyrixNChill
@LyrixNChill 6 ай бұрын
Never even heard of this show ever at all until just now
@essbee1641
@essbee1641 6 ай бұрын
I love that show! Sad it was only one season.
@supastar25
@supastar25 6 ай бұрын
@@SoundsOfTheWild3 you just described me because I hesitate on starting many new shows because of that...because even when you watch the first season and think it's safe, they can just cancel it and move onto something else...Netflix are the biggest culprits doing this.
@filmadcamp1512
@filmadcamp1512 6 ай бұрын
Never heard of the show - so that's another aspect. The promotion for a lot of shows is trash.
@ericrice1914
@ericrice1914 6 ай бұрын
This is literally proving their point, that these black themed shows aren’t profitable. CTG says you have to go out and support these shows, people don’t support them because they don’t want to see them. Personally I think the issue is every black themed show seems to be about racism. How many times are you going to replay the same theme, black people are more than racism. It’s clear black people are even tired of the same old thing. I remember when 12 years a Slave came out, though it was a good movie, I was thinking, another movie about black suffering. Enough, come up with something new and creative and people will support it.
@jas1565
@jas1565 6 ай бұрын
One, not every Black show or movie is about racism. Two, I disagree that those shows aren't profitable because Black shows are being cancelled regardless of popularity or success. The problem is the audience isn't diverse. Just as an example, the most successful "white" shows aren't strictly being watched by white people. The audience it reaches is diverse. If you look at the most successful Black shows, the audience is far less diverse. White people aren't tuning into "Lovecraft Country" or "Rap Sh*t" on a weekly basis like Black people are tuning into "Modern Family" or those shows.
@javiruiz8365
@javiruiz8365 6 ай бұрын
@@jas1565also think about it back in the 90s every race was tuning in to bLK shows and they where extremely successful. We never saw those shows as bLK shows we just all watched them because they where entertaining. I really enjoyed Black-ish I wish they made more shows like that and I also like Abbot Elementary. Those are shows that everyone watches.
@user-zx4xd5ju3d
@user-zx4xd5ju3d 6 ай бұрын
As long as racism persists there should be stories about black ppl dealing w/ racism .
@conradblack779
@conradblack779 6 ай бұрын
⁠@@jas1565the difference is modern family is not written to encompass the white experience its just a comedy. When you write shows that cater to black people exclusively you are already alienating the majority of the country as black people only make up 14% of the population if you cater to them specifically you are pretty much consigning yourself to failure
@conradblack779
@conradblack779 6 ай бұрын
@@user-zx4xd5ju3dblack people make up like 14% of the American population when you make shows about racism you are appealing to such a small audience even amongst black people who are pretty bored of the same shit over and over again you are never going to be successful
@keonamorrison
@keonamorrison 6 ай бұрын
We went to see the color purple opening day and I thought it was amazing! I haven’t been to the theater in years. It brought me out. It helped that the original is among my favorite movies of all time.
@shaysadventures248
@shaysadventures248 6 ай бұрын
Black networks and Tyler Perry exists for a reason. It will a break and we will be a self sufficient community.
@omarrobreid
@omarrobreid 6 ай бұрын
I went to watch the Color Purple, and the Book of Clarence at the cinema. I enjoyed the new CP more than the original. Bought it on Prime Video a few days later so my friends and family could watch it. They all love it. It wasn't what none of us expected. The storyline is still there but the tone of the movie is way different. When I went to watch CP at AMC there were way way more white people there than black people there. So I agree with Charlamagne, we don't support black movies the way we should.
@creolelady182
@creolelady182 6 ай бұрын
Black entertainers need to start their own power base
@kutfromdifferentkloth
@kutfromdifferentkloth 6 ай бұрын
2:25 designated place for him to Snoop😂😂😂 that was right
@RicardoOdum
@RicardoOdum 6 ай бұрын
Remakes used to be one of the main things studios could bank on. People don't want to go to theaters to see an original story anymore, Book of Clarence being an example of that. (Movie is dope btw). The general audience typically has wanted to recognizable IP's like a Color Purple, Marvel & DC movies, etc. They'd rather watch original content on streaming services now. Which is fine, but still brings in less money than movie studios are use to, which gives them cause to pause on things now.
@Bigtcloudyceo
@Bigtcloudyceo 6 ай бұрын
I feel like more of the budget needs to be put into marketing. Just like any movie we gotta get hype about it. None of these last few movies have I see in places that the black audience watches. Start a better conversation,
@joi12345678
@joi12345678 6 ай бұрын
I didn’t care to watch Rap Sh*t. Didn’t align with the projects I liked from Issa. It was created to be more mainstream. I don’t think all her fans really cared for the show.
@milestones140
@milestones140 6 ай бұрын
Rap Shit wasn’t even as close to as good as INSECURE. As a lover of black Art you can’t make trash and then expect people to just love it then blame it on the race card. As black folks we gotta cut that out.
@larrymarshall8900
@larrymarshall8900 6 ай бұрын
Plain and simple if your product or show isn't bringing in the money or sponsorship then what else can you do with it
@anferneecephas7161
@anferneecephas7161 6 ай бұрын
Shows get cancelled. It happens. Love her though. Amazing talent.
@NovellaLuvs2819
@NovellaLuvs2819 6 ай бұрын
You can tell these two are out of the loop because we watched these shows faithfully just like we watched Lovecraft. If it’s not about something making us look negative, they will cancel it.
@markparham
@markparham 6 ай бұрын
correct
@MarcusTheJR
@MarcusTheJR 6 ай бұрын
Most "black" shows support false stereotypes and undefined realities, Issa Rae did an amazing job writing insecure and how they showed the nuance of "black" people. Many black americans, especially black men dont appreciate the false representations of their experiences in media, Issa Rae has been one of few that has given a honest take on black america.
@PHlophe
@PHlophe 6 ай бұрын
i like the fact that Black men on that show looked realistic with their full african features. None of the sweetened brown ninjas. Issa's shows and P-valley are defo my fav shows of the past 3 years.
@MarcusTheJR
@MarcusTheJR 6 ай бұрын
​@@PHlophe most people are complex and full of nuance, most black media depicts false assumptions of black life, especially with young black folks, we aren't one dimensional people, we are full of nuance and sometimes media likes to show the image they want for us instead of the reality.
@conradblack779
@conradblack779 6 ай бұрын
You do realise shows like that only appeal to a very tiny audience since black people are only 14% of the American population half that would immediately would be children who wouldnt watch the show anyway, take away most men and older generations and your potential viewing audience for “authentic” black shows like issa rae makes would be minuscule and never going to be a major hit considering they pretty much alienate most of the population of the country
@MarcusTheJR
@MarcusTheJR 6 ай бұрын
@conradblack779 I'm aware of the disparity in viewership. My issue is the culture that seems to remain popular and continues to sell, regardless of its impact on the youth, I don't have any solutions to the problem, my household and the content I choose to view has always been based on my values. I didn't grow up experiencing these media stereotypes, Issa Rae's ability to make multilayered black characters was EYE OPENING AND VERY REAL.
@conradblack779
@conradblack779 6 ай бұрын
@@MarcusTheJR if the culture were popular then her shows wouldn’t be getting cancelled, her problem is shes unable to make shows that appeal to a wider audience and are super race focused which evidently even black people have grown tired of. All of her shows seem to follow the same script and just become monotonous over time, when you try to convey a message more than entertain people its just not that interesting
@mstree9985
@mstree9985 6 ай бұрын
Color purple would of did good if woopie was in it and they wasn't doing all that singing.
@jimweb3230
@jimweb3230 6 ай бұрын
Movies are just unorginal. Hollywood is in a weird bubble.
@theophilusjones6024
@theophilusjones6024 6 ай бұрын
Not true, all those great movies that came out last year
@tsunamiinae
@tsunamiinae 6 ай бұрын
I haven’t been to the movies since 2018 BUT I made it out to see the book of Clarence ✊🏾✊🏾 I love it
@ricokavorkian
@ricokavorkian 6 ай бұрын
Who you don’t remember “Bones” 🤦🏾‍♂️
@dewanafrazier8013
@dewanafrazier8013 6 ай бұрын
Yes & hopefully she can bring back Rap Shit, The Wonder Years & such
@itdoesmatteryep8822
@itdoesmatteryep8822 6 ай бұрын
Some of these shows were really pretty bad. I know our community feels we have to support every black entertainer, especially women, but the shows are not good and extremely predictable.
@deb282
@deb282 6 ай бұрын
I’m hearing/watching & I am so distracted by the clutter … maybe it’s just me
@robertmorton3000
@robertmorton3000 6 ай бұрын
Rap Shit was ass but i understand…. Run the World was a good show that should have never been cancelled
@DotingOverDoggies
@DotingOverDoggies 6 ай бұрын
Not even supported on your own… Why are y’all not on BET anymore???😞
@ilovesilver205
@ilovesilver205 6 ай бұрын
These movies aren't doing good because they aren't showing everywhere. They aren't showing Book of Clarence at ANY theaters in my area. They are showing Orgins only a couple of theaters and they started showing American Fiction a week or two AFTER the release date!!!!
@kelley8173
@kelley8173 6 ай бұрын
It's hard to believe snoop sometimes 😂
@jamesbriggs6364
@jamesbriggs6364 6 ай бұрын
Yeah I have a hard time believing snitches too🤣
@maniac50ae14
@maniac50ae14 6 ай бұрын
Lol, it was a good story but i really questioning it the whole time
@Phil-964
@Phil-964 6 ай бұрын
Ratings are ratings and if the ratings are poor the show gets canceled whether it’s independent or not. People are just not watching tv anymore, going to the movies,their attention spans are short or they just stream.
@larrymarshall8900
@larrymarshall8900 6 ай бұрын
Streaming and downloading that's the new way of technology.
@TheIcemanthomas
@TheIcemanthomas 6 ай бұрын
“On On.”
@FNJ720
@FNJ720 6 ай бұрын
I don’t remember the Bones movie😂🤦🏽‍♀️
@BlueLionAstrology
@BlueLionAstrology 6 ай бұрын
I think the black box offices would bring in a great return for black films if they simply released them on streaming platforms. I personally quit going to theaters years ago. It’s much more convenient to watch a movie at home and pause when needed. I feel like going to the movie theater is becoming a vintage experience like the drive-ins.
@jordanbaker931
@jordanbaker931 5 ай бұрын
Can't wait to support her next venture.
@FNJ720
@FNJ720 6 ай бұрын
Hollywood needs to STOPPPP with all the remakes!!!!! We don’t want them!!
@nurseroefuturenp1142
@nurseroefuturenp1142 6 ай бұрын
We need more shows like insecure. Nuanced black shows.
@trishacollymore4397
@trishacollymore4397 6 ай бұрын
Rap shit, Southside, Watchmen, Lovecraft Country....gems! Just wasted by HBO. They own some "gilded age" bs lol
@larrymarshall8900
@larrymarshall8900 6 ай бұрын
HBO Max ain't worth downloading or purchasing the app cause the black shows constantly getting cancelled.
@shorrodmcclain8777
@shorrodmcclain8777 6 ай бұрын
​@@larrymarshall8900naw is heat on Max. True detective, the wire, GOT all bangers
@XsweetstarliteX
@XsweetstarliteX 6 ай бұрын
They are not invested in our stories at all, we know this and have known this forever, so going independent is good. Even this latest flood of awards being given to black actors seems like a smoke screen as they start shutting doors to black talent and writers.
@christophermm23
@christophermm23 6 ай бұрын
It's not just those. I went to see the beekeeper the weekend it came out. At like a 7:30 showing and the theatre was less than half full. Might just be where we are in time right now
@essbee1641
@essbee1641 6 ай бұрын
Ticket sales have been down overall since the pandemic. Higher ticket prices combined with so many streaming options, and short theater windows, all contribute.
@etford9959
@etford9959 6 ай бұрын
Beekeeper was a good movie…an eye opener re telemarketers & scammers
@shantemason3889
@shantemason3889 6 ай бұрын
I think people don't have money for cable or to go to the movies... The economy is terrible for us regular folks.. The cost of eggs, gas, and rent is ridiculous 🤷🏾‍♂️
@juliussmith5866
@juliussmith5866 6 ай бұрын
Bones Was A Good Movie 💯
@larrymarshall8900
@larrymarshall8900 6 ай бұрын
No the movie is wack sorry Snoopy Woopy
@juliussmith5866
@juliussmith5866 6 ай бұрын
@@larrymarshall8900 You thought so lol
@yurp7444
@yurp7444 6 ай бұрын
Only in this reality.... Could we have Issa, saying that 'Our stories aren't a priority' Taraji saying that it's difficult to budget being in 'our stories' And she is talking about 'our' TOP stories Hidden Figures/Empire Whilst concurrently, simultaneously, at the same time There is a mega movement declaring that 'our' characters(not stories. Just the look of the characters) Are destroying 'storytelling' 🤔
@yurp7444
@yurp7444 6 ай бұрын
To be a non-factor in 'storytelling's success As well as the paramount factor in 'storytelling's destruction Is somebody writing a book with these themes? I don't want a boring docu I want a 'what the h#ll?' fiction 🚶🏿
@junepearl979
@junepearl979 6 ай бұрын
Book of Clarence wasn’t showing in Brooklyn! The whole borough I couldn’t find it smdh
@judaz3000
@judaz3000 6 ай бұрын
Once they made the 2 main characters on Rap Sh!t follow a white girl on stage I knew it was a wrap. Issa Rae is a great writer and producer. I feel that since she's 40 years old, its time to stop writing about being a City Girl and time to get on her grown a sexy.
@LyrixNChill
@LyrixNChill 6 ай бұрын
Why that part? Now I got to go watch it again...
@n_so
@n_so 14 күн бұрын
Multiple factors can affect the ratings/revenue i do think one of them is ppl are tired of remakes, the industry went all in on nostalgia and we're reheating shit that wouldnt translate today, recasting things for diversity quotas, and the very little that was new was of poor quality that goes for any movies "black" or "white" , I knew profit was number 1 in the execs head but green lighting trash bc it already has a name and banking on nostalgia but cancelling smtg else that has zero room to grow after a succesful season is backwards to me
@rsjeyt
@rsjeyt 6 ай бұрын
If her shows were really doing numbers like that you think they would've cancelled? They still producing game of thrones.
@renitaparker1494
@renitaparker1494 6 ай бұрын
They need to pay our black actors for us to watch! They also need to make things we want to see! CG Bye!
@klaird_h4727
@klaird_h4727 6 ай бұрын
Yes, I definitely believe Taraji's drama over shadowed the movie...Maybe should have waitied until after. I don't recall her doing that with any other movie she was underpaid in..interesting🤔. Hope something positive comes of it though.
@thedoctorthemasterandthegu7302
@thedoctorthemasterandthegu7302 6 ай бұрын
Maybe they will learn to stop only showing male bashing films. I will pass on Color Purple.
@diamondprincess9168
@diamondprincess9168 6 ай бұрын
You need a movie feel good we want to see do another ATL we want to see laugh chill
@MoMoney562
@MoMoney562 6 ай бұрын
Old, was on 85 south show
@cdavis8179
@cdavis8179 6 ай бұрын
I just started Rap Sh!t.....😢.......why would they do this? Every time I get into something.
@zag7257
@zag7257 6 ай бұрын
They don't start talkin about Issa until @3:25 ish. But, the networks have done it before. Getting a bunch of black TV shows so we can boost their numbers and then they cancel us once they are good. It was never a question about if we can pull numbers, it's just that they don't want and respect us so we gotta do our own thing. TBH hella years ago when OWN Network came out I thought it would happen, but we see how that turned out.
@learningearning8385
@learningearning8385 6 ай бұрын
Black ppl in ALL industries should be worried. Certain groups throwing shade at “woke” and “inclusion” means we’ll begin to see less of us on screen & in the boardroom.
@bellfaith1065
@bellfaith1065 6 ай бұрын
Liberals tricked yall into alienating yourselves talking bout "blk girl magic" while they was selling you out... they used you to push an agenda & now that they don't need you anymore because ur replacements are here, you won't have a seat at any table anymore💯
@emekaosuagwu6416
@emekaosuagwu6416 6 ай бұрын
Exactly 💯💯...tooo many good shows cancelled...mkes no sense,swagger,rap ishh, black lady sketch show,riches so manyyyyy it's sad
@2kdad
@2kdad 6 ай бұрын
the first season of Rap ish was really good. but the second season was meh. hope she’s able to get the third season released somewhere to finish the story
@KP43-08
@KP43-08 6 ай бұрын
Yeah, it’s probably time for us to go to independent route, but I feel like as black people we have to come up with better stories. We keep remaking the same stories over and over again we gotta come up with something new. White people can’t relate to the black struggle gotta come up with different concepts I think I don’t know.
@beuimTV
@beuimTV 6 ай бұрын
Tyler Perry has preached this over and over again saying OWN YOUR STUFF…. Black celebrities get too carried away and don’t get together to build stuff and to OWN their stuff So when I see this stuff I only think they know the game, so…
@francisavilez4435
@francisavilez4435 6 ай бұрын
Nobody wanted see a musical Period
@ncpoloboy
@ncpoloboy 6 ай бұрын
We know he smokes weed Charlamagne damn shut the hell up sometimes lol
@Travelbum3000
@Travelbum3000 6 ай бұрын
😂fr. Dude even talks while the rumor clips are playing now smh!
@4cuttime
@4cuttime 6 ай бұрын
​@@Travelbum3000😂😂lol right
@rahkemmcnulty7147
@rahkemmcnulty7147 6 ай бұрын
Rap shit was nice we gotta support
@mica0408
@mica0408 6 ай бұрын
If book of Clearance was a tik tok reel it would have done way better.
@ElvintheEnforcer
@ElvintheEnforcer 5 ай бұрын
Charlemagne mentioned ratings, which he is right about. However, let’s say the show caters to a black population then rating will look weak and networks will cancel. This goes back to us having ownership, and Issa was successful being independent which I understand why she would do that.
@ThatCreoleMan
@ThatCreoleMan 6 ай бұрын
The Color Purple was unnecessary. It was already a certified classic before they even thought about remaking it in the movie is timeless. There was no reason to remake this movie.
@bellfaith1065
@bellfaith1065 6 ай бұрын
I don't think yall get it...they are purposefully only allowing certain types of movies to be made to control blk people💯 they don't care about yall being entertained, they use movies to push propaganda/agendas 2 keep you voting & thinking the way they want you to...same with rap music, they'll only pay for degeneracy to be promoted.... they use it to influence the blk community💯
@MeechieBowBoa
@MeechieBowBoa 6 ай бұрын
Ppl support what they like
@Dontcallmebruh
@Dontcallmebruh 6 ай бұрын
Sigh. Y’all forgetting the REAL CAUSE. WE ARE BROKE AND TIRED. We are not spending 60 bucks to watch a remake. We will wait until it’s on a streaming service. The economy is awful
@markparham
@markparham 6 ай бұрын
issa rae got her wake up call when dame dash talks about stuff like this people act like he is crazy
@dillonbanks609
@dillonbanks609 6 ай бұрын
I just like how they not mentioning that they turned the remake of color purple into a musical. Why not have a regular movie then people probably would’ve wanted to watch it
@deandriaevans2154
@deandriaevans2154 6 ай бұрын
Because it’s not relevant…
@BrewsandBourbonHub
@BrewsandBourbonHub 6 ай бұрын
The 2 season of rap shit was not that good. It had some moments but I felt like it was rushed
@lanalana9621
@lanalana9621 6 ай бұрын
😂😂😂 we told yall we didn’t want the color purple remake I don’t know who thought that we be a good idea but people kept saying no we don’t want it it’s great the way it was same with coming to America it didn’t need a part two it didn’t
@eon001
@eon001 6 ай бұрын
Charlmagne is wrong. These black shows are underpromoted. No one even knows when the films are released. And even if they fail, white film fail all the time, but get held to a different standard.
@stevefrank9444
@stevefrank9444 6 ай бұрын
I thought 2pac started snoop smoking weed!! That what he said..
@KnightFoxx1190
@KnightFoxx1190 6 ай бұрын
I remember when Snoop has his reality show where he had a high intake of weed and Roscoe’s Chicken and Waffles! Every episode I didn’t see him without one of the other. Lol!
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