It FAILED Me! *Final Penn Wrath Review*

[@ipmcphilippines1653]

Tackle Tuesday is a fantastic idea. People love to learn so passing along knowlege is great for the next generation of fisher people.

[@BeardedBrad92]

Thanks man! I appreciate it!

[@davisloggins1249]

Ok. I’ve been looking for a nice spinning reel that are missing pieces and me and my son would. Love to work on them and try to get something going to start his fishing and story-time to get him ready for KZbin as a experienced fisherman.

[@CWCTrainingVideos]

I only go saltwater fishing 1-2 weekends a year. I bought this one after your reviews. Thanks for your videos and sharing your experience.

[@jasonstokley7274]

Penn reel parts are interchangeable from Wrath all the way up to Battle models. The only difference in the reels is the materials that they are made of. A Wrath is pretty much all plastic, where a Battle is almost all metal. It's not until they get to Spinfishers and Slammers that the parts are different.

[@BeardedBrad92]

That’s good to know. Thank you!

[@MikeJonesBBcom]

My go to for Penn parts is usually mystic reel parts. It is hard to get parts though lately. I have rebuilt a few pursuit reels with help from their schematics, but even those it is almost not cost effective to rebuild. Just replace and keep whatever parts are good off the broken reel.

[@jerry.goodman]

I'd love an in-depth tackle tutorial for pier fishing.

[@BeardedBrad92]

Yes sir!

[@HugoDeLorean]

The kids and I totally agree

[@SayWhuuut]

Agree!!

[@jamespagnam2036]

Excellent and good to hear about Tuesdays tutorials especially about surf casting.

[@BeardedBrad92]

Thanks!

[@MYCOMIKE850]

$30 4 two years and probably caught 200pounds darned good deal go buy another one and do it AGAIN.

[@BeardedBrad92]

Right! Might just save it for a parts reel

[@stephencorbett4425]

When I fished the piers 12 years ago. Most people were snobbing frozen baits. Interesting how it’s gone artificial type swim baits. That would be cool to talk about

[@BeardedBrad92]

They still throw dead baits for kings!

[@adamwarren5654]

“Tackle Tuesday” = awesome concept. You should come up with an intro specific to those videos.

[@BeardedBrad92]

That’s a good idea. I’ll have to think on that. Text me if you have any ideas!

[@leonlategan1911]

Hi thanks for your great videos. I suggest you keep it for spares if you don’t order a new gear

[@BeardedBrad92]

That’s what I’m gonna do

[@richardteskey5778]

Tackle Tuesday is a GREAT IDEA!!! Thank you

[@BeardedBrad92]

Yes sir!🤙

[@mikebojtor]

Awesome glad I saw this I almost bought one of these a couple months ago guess you get what you pay for thanks my brother

[@fishincontrol]

Great video, Brad. I'm really enjoying these reviews of budget friendly tackle. I'm gonna be doing some as well. Good stuff, man. Good stuff.

[@BeardedBrad92]

Thanks buddy!

[@hillbillyheadbanger]

I'd love for you to do a video on how to rig different artificial lures like X-Raps, topwater poppers, got-cha's, spoons, etc. What line, swivels, leaders, knots, etc.? Thanks !

[@BeardedBrad92]

Great idea! I’ll do that!

[@charlesepler3581]

I second this suggestion.

[@hillbillyheadbanger]

Awesome!

[@jimmyjaimes5268]

Thanks for the video Brad. It's always interesting to see inside of reels . I'm interested in fixing some of older reels . Be Safe Brother.

[@BeardedBrad92]

Yes sir!

[@natehenderson3828]

I love the “Tackle Tuesday” idea!

[@BeardedBrad92]

Thanks!

[@davidgraf1909]

Cruising the tube cause I just bought the wrath combo as a starter 4000 series’s got it for $50 and have to say it would probably take me 10 years to get the wear you got on yours. I think PENN nailed the market on that. I go maybe 1-2 times per year 1-2 day trips.

[@BeardedBrad92]

It’s definitely still a good purchase for someone that doesn’t get to fish saltwater as much as we do down here

[@emon550]

Good tech info on this one. I was just looking at those different Penn models and comparing them.

[@BeardedBrad92]

Thanks man. Which did you go with?

[@emon550]

@@BeardedBrad92 Spinfisher VI Live liner

[@stevecorrigan1901]

I only use my american made Penn's. I have a 4300,4500 and a 650. The Chinese versions are crap. These 3 reels are over 20 yes old and still work great. Of course maint. Is very important.

[@thatguy2030]

I had the same problem with a penn battle II 4000 I sent it back for a penn fierce surf combo 8000

[@ericglenn4644]

Great tips video

[@BeardedBrad92]

Thank you sir!

[@Lockjawfishingfl]

Tackle Tuesday. Good idea!

[@BeardedBrad92]

Thanks man! Looking forward to it!

[@drkrm]

I’m glad to see that I’m not the only one that just grabs a screw gun shaft when I need a screwdriver for light work.

[@BeardedBrad92]

Haha all I could find that would fit that dang tiny screw!

[@williamcox8175]

Tackle Tuesday. Cool idea.

[@BeardedBrad92]

Thanks man! Going to make me push to get out more content!

[@dougvaldivia3395]

hopefully its repairable and if not hope thats the only one you have...i wish you the best with it cause man i do not do well with repairing spinning reels.

[@BeardedBrad92]

I’m just going to save it for a parts reel

[@dougvaldivia3395]

@@BeardedBrad92 sounds like it served you well

[@mexicanredneck760]

Check out the Shimano Sienna. I have the old model and I've had for about 7 years now fished from California saltwater to Alabama Coast. Been a good reel for the same price. If you replace that Penn with another one don't throw it away. Save it for parts, spool, handle, extra screws and all the usual things. Enjoy the videos.

[@BeardedBrad92]

I think that’s what I’ll do, save it for parts

[@ghoulish7355]

Very interested in how things play out with Penn support and especially interested in if you can use the better all-brass gear from Penn. Drag upgrade from Amazon w/ carbon fiber discs would be incredibly interesting. Maybe a before/after on drag systems. Would make a couple great videos. Thanks for everything!

[@BeardedBrad92]

Great idea! Thanks!

[@tunanorth]

The machined brass gear sets for other Penn models cost around $75 per set from the service dept. There's a reason they don't use them in $29 reels.

[@ghoulish7355]

@@tunanorth once you upgrade the drag and gears, how far off would you be from one of their nicer reels for the money? Maybe the value doesn’t end up being worth it, but it may not be that far off and might make interesting content for KZbin? I’m sure those aren’t the only differences

[@tunanorth]

@@ghoulish7355 You are far behind financially if you try to upgrade major parts, and even then, you still don't have a reel as good as something like a Battle III, which is very modestly priced for how good it is. Lots of vids on YT talking about Battle III reels.

[@maykonpalacios797]

Check out the Tsunami Barrier II

[@redstripeblueboat1840]

Great video, really like tackle Tuesdays

[@BeardedBrad92]

Thanks man!

[@davidstokes925]

Have enjoyed the Tackle Tuesday’s. Haven’t bought a Penn Reel yet. Probably wouldn’t put the wear on one like you do. So, like you said $30 for a reel that lasted 2 years, you got your money’s worth out of it. Depending on the price of the gear, might be worth fixing it, especially if you could upgrade the gear.

[@JKAdams]

For $30 if it lasts a year its done more than enough! Im about to put one on a rod that my Lews reel went out on.

[@PaulieWalnutss]

Brad the main gear part numbers are different on Battle 3 4000, Battle 3 4000DX and the Wrath 4000 The Penn Fierce 3 4000 is the same part number FYI.

[@BeardedBrad92]

Thank you! Guess no upgrade for me haha

[@charlesepler3581]

@@BeardedBrad92 considering one is brass, wouldn’t the part number be different regardless?

[@johngray7597]

Reels these days are built to make money on production assembly lines as fast as they can get them out the door. I'm not surprised it let you down. I'm a 60s kid I still have my penn spinners from the 80s still in great working condition in 1985 I bought one of the 80SW & the 80S. In 1986 I bought one of the 250GR. I also bought one of the HT100. I'm in my late 50s now they never not once given me any issues of wanting to fail on me period even to this day..my penn spinners are vintage they're sitting in my rod & reel case e every once in a while I'll take them out fishing in the gulf. I bought a couple since then so I could keep my first ones from getting messed up but they have failed me. I've never bought another penn spinner after that lol its about the money nowadays. Stay safe and fish on brother

[@tylernelson7300]

Try the st croix triumph it's a beautiful rod and am planning on getting one!!!

[@herbybrooks5131]

I have been told that a 6 inch redeye shad on half to three quarters ounces whate range really kills on red and speckle trout I don't have axes to them here in south Texas would you try this and give a video or a review of the setup

[@BeardedBrad92]

I’ll see what I can find

[@kevin6385]

Call customer service tell them you have owned many of their reels. It sounds like you have over the years. Ask them for a new one. Prolly 50/50 you will get. If not chuck it

[@Greenwashedhipppie]

I got Wraths from 2500 to 5000s. I got 2 5000s on sale for $32. I am retired and if any fishs more than me I would be impressed. Yet to have a problem with any of them.

[@BeardedBrad92]

That’s great!

[@mhyatt82262]

Sadly it appears that the Wrath is the zebco 202 of my day.

[@BeardedBrad92]

Ya it’s just a parts reel now!

[@luigiprovencher]

I wouldn't throw it away. Keep it for parts if you're not going to fix it or put anymore money into it. You could probably sell it for parts too if you wanted to. I just picked up two Wrath 5000 combos from Wal*Mart for $24 each figuring that I'd use one and keep the other for parts but I think that I'm just going to spend the money on replacing the plastic bushings with Stainless Steel Ball Bearings and maybe even replace the drag washers with the carbon fiber drag washers and I'll probably have these things for the rest of my life and then some. What did you end up doing with it?

[@tunanorth]

That reel is only $29 retail, and can be had for even less if you look around.

[@TherealBo4_God863]

I’m getting it for freshwater fishing so I should be good I already had a 2500 and it could handle a 4 pound catfish no problem but my brother left it in his friends truck and he still hasn’t brought it back

[@paulschilens2337]

Even though your oak veneered table looks nice maybe check into finding a work pad similar to the gun guys when they dismantle. Might as well start a parts bin with the Penn. 😁👍

[@BeardedBrad92]

That’s the plan with that reel!

[@FrankLadd]

I have a Dawai parts bin too.

[@jamarmckay5514]

What I did was buy just the drag washers in carbon and it was amazing

[@YayaOrchid]

Good to know! Which is a better reel: Daiwa Legalis LT 2500 or Penn Pursuit 3 2500?

[@jamarmckay5514]

I will see how long mine last because I been using it for big game fish and it’s been awesome

[@texas_beachbum7016]

What happened to your reel happened to my pursuit 3 only had a year

[@joshholmes2021]

Need a tutorial on how to catch a Jack Crevale! Not from pier though! Thanks, nice video

[@BeardedBrad92]

Hoping to get one from the beach soon!

[@joshholmes2021]

@@BeardedBrad92 I've been trying the Fort. Didn't try this morning and someone hooked a 42 inch jack out there this morning.... #Bummed

[@BeardedBrad92]

@@joshholmes2021 I saw that!

[@lukejovanovich7783]

Could you do an in-depth surf fishing tackle/rod and reel tutorial?

[@BeardedBrad92]

I can do that!

[@MrRatFinkster]

Out of curiosity - how big of fish were you catching with this reel? I've been going for northern pike so I'm wondering if I should be worried about failure.

[@fishinfromscratch5484]

Replace that Gear and put some new HIGH QUALITY reel grease in the gear box. I service my junk yearly and it holds up well.

[@BeardedBrad92]

I think I’m just gonna save it for parts

[@fishinfromscratch5484]

@@BeardedBrad92 not a bad idea. An extra spool is always nice.

[@garywarren2856]

Nice job!

[@BeardedBrad92]

Thank you

[@Tyler-kw9ce]

Have you tried any long cast spinning reels? Might be worth looking into. I use Akios 656 casting reels. But hard to handle for a client or child a conventional reel with no level wind. But they cast a mile!

[@BeardedBrad92]

I never have

[@Tyler-kw9ce]

@@BeardedBrad92 I prefer casting reels for surf fishing. But the guys who like spinning use the long cast reels and swear by them. Line lay is different because slower oscillation and the spools are different. Makes a big difference when you need to make a 100+ yard cast. Akios, Shimano, and Daiwa all make distance cast reels.

[@DJEDGEDALLAS]

Time to upgrade to the penn battle 3 #6000

[@Jerry-KYfisher]

Hey Bearded Brad have you ever fished with or used Okuma reels? I have 6 of them and so far have had great luck but I’ve only had them 1 year. Curious about what others have found with that brand

[@BeardedBrad92]

I’ve never used one before

[@ryeckley7267]

I see ereplacement parts has that gear for $5 plus shipping,

[@BeardedBrad92]

That’s not bad at all

[@bobk.1428]

Now that your channel is taking off and you’re doing beach trips I’d invest in a better reel. Personally I’d be a little disappointed to pay you for a trip only to be handed a Wrath and have it fail on me. If you do replace it just use it yourself as a experiment to have fun with etc.

[@zackmorehouse]

I agree I booked a guy once and he handed me a Shakespeare reel for inshore and I was disappointed. I do like guys reviewing lower end stuff and not forcing $200+ reels. But for a charter a fierce or battle would be the minimum I would expect to see. I booked my last inshore charter based on the guide and that he used bull bay rods and $200 reels They definitely were nice.

[@tntoutdoors_]

Get them 🐊

[@BeardedBrad92]

One day brother!

[@comfortablynumb9342]

Well you talked me out of buying one of those. I wonder how the midrange Penn reels are?

[@BeardedBrad92]

I have a lot of Pursuits and they’ve been good to be. They’re about to release the new pursuit 4

[@lynkpaul33]

The reel is cheap for a reason. Made with cheaper materials. Cheaper to buy a nee reel. Open it before use and grease it and seal it prior to first use. Ever se the reel as a winch. Use the rod to fight and control the fish, pull and wind down on the fish. Always keep rod tip up and let it take the strain. If you know how to maintain and work that reel, it can last you years. If you winch with it or let a novice use it and they strip the gear, well that's on you. That reel I my country costs 12 times a much, after currency exchange and tax so we have to take care of them. Keep the reel and just get a new crown wheel and pinion and a new bearing and replace them. It will be as good as new.

[@jeffreybabino8161]

Hay man if worse comes to worse chuck it get a Penn pursuit 3 spinning reel way better reel

[@BeardedBrad92]

Love the pursuits. I have a lot of them

[@jeffreybabino8161]

Me too I have four pursuits iam definitely a fan

[@SM-lp2ig]

It would be perfect for 5-6 trips with the coworkers

[@andrewmorke]

Sounds like your instant-anti-reverse gear is shot. I assume the Wrath's gears are made from aluminum, a far softer metal than brass alloy or stainless steel. My beef with the Wrath is an aesthetic one. It looks cheap and nasty to me. I'd rather pay $50 and get the Pursuit instead.

[@Charsept]

Tackle Tuesday ideas: float sizes vs hook size for pompano rigs, when and when not to use floats, lead weight size vs conditions (whats the smallest weight that is usable and when can you use em), how to pitch/flip fish up onto a pier, leader lengths, rod lengths, good generic pier setup, DIY beach cart/caddy, what tackle would you take if you could only take a single tackle box, how to not tear up your finger when long bomb casting, proper way to rinse off reels (just realized ive been submerging my reels and that is bad and forces salt and sand into the reel D: ), smallest setup you'd use for surf fishing, floating platform (styrofoam) with hip tether for bay wading, dedicated sabiki rod setup.

[@BeardedBrad92]

Those are some great ideas! Thank you!!

[@Sunburnt_Smiling]

I have several reels you can do maintenance on :)

[@BeardedBrad92]

I bet you do😂

[@richardteskey5778]

How to rig for different species. Surf Shark, etc #Priceless

[@BeardedBrad92]

I can do that!

[@robarcher3892]

If you can get ahold of one, I'd like to see a review of a piscifun (sp?) Reel. 4000/5000 size. If you have a Penn fierce or battle the same size, take the gear out of that one and try it in the wrath reel. On the Facebook group panhandle fishing, there is a guy there that does reel repair. He is located in niceville. I think his name is Martinez real repair, but I'm not sure. If you can find him, ask him about the part.

[@johnpate6433]

I get to surf fish at the most 3 weeks out of the year, so mine should out live me lol

[@BeardedBrad92]

😂 there ya go!

[@SaltyMcCroryFishing]

The brass gear will cost more than the reel you’re trying to fix.

[@BeardedBrad92]

We’ll see!

[@Tyler-kw9ce]

@@BeardedBrad92 if you had to buy all the parts of a reel it would cost 3x what the reel cost lol.

[@Oouther1]

I saw the original gear for about $6.

[@saltygringo]

Just keep it for parts and get another one, or upgrade

[@BeardedBrad92]

That’s the plan!

[@johnmarschalk1977]

Watching the Penn Wrath fail video. Might have been after this, but didn't you have a rod pulled out of holder and fought fish after in sand and salt water? Anyway, $30 and last 2 years, as you said, hard to complain.

[@SM-lp2ig]

2 years for $30 seems reasonable considering you said you never did an in-depth maintenance job

[@BeardedBrad92]

Ya can’t complain!

[@SaltyMcCroryFishing]

Nice screwdriver, I’m surprised you didn’t use a butter knife.

[@BeardedBrad92]

Butter knife was a little too big

[@johnwhitteniv2459]

Spent 75 dollars a reel for 3 an now theyre ticking and reversing with no working lol Noooooooooo

[@bamafishing2228]

I bought me one of those new today for $14.98. Hopefully it lasts me at least a year

[@BeardedBrad92]

You’ll definitely get a year out of it

[@christrammell2632]

Two years of heavy saltwater use out of $30 reel, not bad

[@BeardedBrad92]

Can’t complain too much for sure! Think I’ll just save it as a parts reel now

[@stevensilva1350]

So not for nothing I’ve seen these reels actually fall apart with a fish on the like, it’s a saltwater reel so these fish are usually large. I probably personally would have went with the pursuit 6000-8000 a lot of plastic parts in these reels. I wouldn’t personally fix it, huck it in the trash. Pick up a slammer or a battle if you wanna budget fish. Just not worth the headache of catching another fish an this happening.

[@elijahbl5745]

I'ma stick to my pursuit

[@PhillyJohnny]

There just isn't any reason to go with a Penn Wrath...... I bought my Pursuit 3 for $33.00 brand new and it blows away any other reel in that price range - maybe even the next price point.

[@stephencorbett4425]

A dude that comes down and fishes twice a year might get 10-12 years out of it. That thing has caught a 1000 fish!

[@BeardedBrad92]

Haha it’ll definitely go through some use!

[@vaginal-sand-castle]

Should've bought a spinfisher vi, at least they have some sealing

[@eves08109]

The main gear in that reel is probably zinc.

[@blakewarren658]

I say put upgraded gears in it and buy a new one and see which lasts longer

[@BeardedBrad92]

I just gotta see if the upgraded one will fit this reel first

[@veganzombe]

@@BeardedBrad92 any update on if the brass gear worked?

[@buddytucker8182]

Considering it was $30.00 and it lasted 2 years , $15.00 a year aint bad Considering what you caught with it

[@BeardedBrad92]

Ya for sure! Can’t complain

[@sharkattaq]

If you get a battle gear you have to get a handle too

[@jimszczypienski1935]

Sorry, it's nothing but Pfluger's for me. They're not real expensive and they've lasted me some for over 10 issue free years. Penns are heavy and are just riding on past performance.

[@Tyler-kw9ce]

You must fish freshwater. I'd destroy any Pfleuger in a week at the heat of season. That being said I love the pfleuger president for ultralight fishing freshwater. Caught a 6lb bass on one with 4lb test and a St. Croix ultralight.

[@williamelliott4444]

Definitely got your money’s worth!

[@BeardedBrad92]

For sure!

[@donaldfiesta8666]

The main gear is $5 bucks.

[@keithbstar1]

30 dollars real put it in the bin.

[@therookiefisherman5234]

As hard as you fish I believe you got your money's worth.

[@BeardedBrad92]

For sure! Might just be a parts reel now

[@ronaldbrunsvold5632]

Just save that one for parts that are still good and get another one.

[@BeardedBrad92]

Probably my best option

[@pitoperez6352]

Buy a reel that costs more than taking the kids to McDonald's..... You get what you pay for..... Buy a 200 dollar reel and spool with quality line..... Good luck

[@deanchase7904]

If that's the one you paid only $30 and you get 2 years out of it toss it in the trash it's a cheap reel really I got a $80 reel that's worth saving lol

[@dewaynethomas3258]

Stay away from penn