"It Has Got Out Of CONTROL!" - Former Met Police Detective On Student Stabbing Teachers In Wales

The two teachers and a pupil who were hurt in a stabbing at a school in South Wales have been discharged from hospital, police have said.
It comes as the brother of the teacher who helped restrain the girl accused of attacking the teachers and a fellow pupil said he “does not think of himself as a hero”.
The victims were injured at Amman Valley School in Ammanford, Carmarthenshire on Wednesday morning and a teenage girl was arrested on suspicion of murder and remains in custody.
The teachers injured in the attack are reported to be Fiona Elias, the deputy head, and Liz Hopkin, a special needs teacher.
A Dyfed-Powys Police spokeswoman confirmed on Thursday that the victims have now been discharged.
Carmarthenshire Superintendent Ross Evans said: “As can be expected with an incident as serious as this, there will continue to be a police presence at the school throughout the day today.
Former Met Police detective Peter Bleksley joins Julia Hartley-Brewer to discuss.
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[@willyboff]

Too busy knocking on doors about naughty words

[@philipanderson9434]

😂

[@Nick-fg4dq]

​@@philipanderson9434about 70 million quid for baroness mone.

[@shegs7717]

Or using the full force of the law against someone who's done 3mph over the speed limit!

[@wendyholland2339]

The police haven't been good for the last 30 years

[@davidharwood9552]

I retired 1996. Thankyou. I agree

[@instantkarma1229]

Never going to be any good again. The London mayor doesn’t even seem to know know that baby powder gets cut into hard drugs ffs

[@fionagregory9376]

I like Peter Bleksley.

[@Nick-fg4dq]

​@@instantkarma1229he's not a copper or a druggie so why would he

[@Nick-fg4dq]

​@@davidharwood9552so are you sayin you were a terrible popo then because you were a copper then as was I,only for 5 years tho.

[@wendyholland2339]

NO DISCIPLINE

[@lindamiller7851]

They will play the mentally ill card.

[@angelau1194]

@@lindamiller7851 Or race card.

[@lindamiller7851]

@@angelau1194 yes they haven't released the name yet.

[@spudspuddy]

the girls brother arrested too for having a gun

[@Ellzyboy]

No. Just black.

[@jeffholt9437]

Rather than being removed, the cancer has been allowed to spread - thanks Blair, thanks Cameron.....

[@bdecreatorguy6060]

Police find it’s more important to check Social Media

[@imbonkers3629]

All discipline as gone from society 😮parents can’t smack children no cane in schools it’s all poor kids not your fault have a PlayStation and a iPhone 📱 to calm u down 🙄

[@nothingtoseehere999]

Well said you reep what you sow....... Children need discipline

[@RecruitmentProgram]

If you tried to cane kids these days, they would put you 6ft under.

[@karenwhitehead2260]

Sick khan saying he'd pay for the goods if he saw someone stealing.... I'm off to swipe a Louis vuitton handbag care to pay the bill khan 😂😂😂😂😂

[@susannahhunt100]

What has Saddiq got to do with Wales?

[@stevecrook5776]

Main stream media not covering it, just hoping it goes away. Religion of peace

[@Skaramoosh5]

Exactly, I have no information on the attacker. All I know is it was female.

[@duncankabitto3396]

What does religion have to do with this

[@Skaramoosh5]

@duncankabitto3396 maybe everything or nothing. The media have told us nothing.

[@duncankabitto3396]

@Skaramoosh5 so why assume till you know the facts then? It seems you want religion or a spacific religion to be involved

[@markhill4932]

@@Skaramoosh5 and 13 years old

[@530jazzercise]

1:35 “we don’t know the circumstances”..we know the girl’s name wasn’t gwen jones..or else we’d have all the details

[@MDM1992]

Yeah we certainly aren't dealing with a Cerys Evans we can be pretty damn sure of that!

[@PSYCHIC_PSYCHO]

WRONG!; it has been the case in the British legal system that the identity of a under age suspect is never disclosed to the public.

[@stevedickson5853]

A sad normal day in Britain unfortunately

[@sunsearching2912]

It's interesting as they focus on criminality at the bottom but never look at it from the top......things always move down hill.

[@exsubmariner]

There used to be a lot more knives in schools when I was a kid we used to have pocket knives We had lots of fights at school we would never had thought of using a knife it never crossed our minds

[@rivkasharon]

We were also far too aware of consequences, and we fought with honour and unwritten rules.

[@rivkasharon]

Way they fight now is cowardly.

[@flyingfox7854]

I remember going on a school trip to the Lake District in the Middle 1960’s and buying a small sheath knife in a gift shop as a souvenir … we used to play split the kipper in the school playground with knives but we would never have thought to use them as weapons … if the teachers caught you then the knife would have been confiscated … and you wouldn’t dare to complain or tell your parents ….

[@user-nq1vs4ss9x]

Katharine Birbalsingh knows the solution: a school culture in which the adults are in charge and no feels they need to carry a knife out of fear. If you put the kids in charge and are afraid to discipline them, this is what you get.

[@annephillips8494]

My son went to that school and was bullied mercilessly, by Girls.Yiu don't know the facts yet Not excusing the stabbing, just saying.

[@rivkasharon]

Because back in the day there were actual consequences for fighting at school. You would get a flogging at school, and then a flogging from your parents when you got home.

[@barryevans791]

It's what happens when you stop punishing criminals and underfund your police.

[@Lynwen10]

This woman can’t even get her facts straight about what happened at the school.

[@ianmangham4570]

Absolutely useless

[@BVking509]

The Price of Multiculturism

[@user-bq9oz4mm5v]

What culture was the young girl who did the stabbing because I've not heard

[@JosephB-tv7gf]

Every shoplifter I see is a multiculti.

[@susannahhunt100]

Proof??

[@JosephB-tv7gf]

@@susannahhunt100 my eyes. What else?

[@PhilK1080]

@@susannahhunt100 Even when you are given it, out comes the "phobias" and "isms"

[@VengieShiva]

When the police told my family member to report the attack on him to the police station after calling them to let them know he was attacked by a knife wielding thief and his accomplice, that's when I know the police don't care It's appalling, that the victim is made to come to the police station to report the crime, knowing that what happened to him would be life changing. The victim found it difficult to venture outside of the house since January and the two that attacked him have been left to maybe do this to someone else without fear of being caught and held accountable.

[@mjt3049]

The ex copper is one of the old school that thinks bullying people is part of the job. No doubt in my mind that he would be the first in line to throw a punch in interview at a suspect to get the result he wanted.

[@pathopewell1814]

How do you know all this?

[@Mr4skinhead]

that huge elephant in the background is putting me off

[@sheledmikymo]

Sadly this young girl who has been bullied by another pupil for over a year, finally couldn’t take the bullying anymore, there is more to this story then you all know, the kids at the school were so stressed they got there phones out and posted the whole scenario, she was wrong in doing what she did, she went to all the correct people hoping she could get the abusive bullying stopped but know one took action, she was scared and that’s why she had a knife. Again she should not have done this.

[@greentroll9326]

more like religion of peace who are still in 7th century and still use barbaric ways

[@user-vh7uo2su3h]

Very familiar with this kind of scenario! If this is a case of retaliation for being bullied, it reflects the problems schools have when trying to remove children from schools who will not conform to behaviour norms and schools' expectations, and parents who refuse to admit that their children are at fault. Add to this some weak SLTs (senior leadership teams) who keep giving multiple so-called 'second chances' until it ends in disaster. I wonder if the D. for Ed. has figures on this. My perception is this is on the Increase.

[@carlowingfield7743]

While the children are taking knives the Police are taking the knee .

[@stevenmcgowan3205]

An immigrant kid.... bet you anything it’s the offspring of our latest neighbours.

[@AnneTaylor-lc4ib]

I've heard she's from Ukraine . 🇬🇧🥺

[@tillyt4054]

Lots of rumours flying around but apparently she has a very non Immigrant name ...Hailey something , but its neither Ukranian or Muslim , Shyte happens , lets not pretend our indigenous kids don't have psycholocial damage from the lockdowns

[@SubjectiveFunny]

Kids are kids, no matter where they come from.. Let's not pretend all of ours are perfect..

[@truthprevails5173]

​@@SubjectiveFunny What the kids are taught by parents matters.

[@sheledmikymo]

Wrong. She’s a Welsh girl who’s been bullied for over a year.

[@jenzabel]

Teen Girls have always been prone to bullying but it has gotten out of control in western countries as of late! Teachers are too busy prancing around teaching gender things and telling kids to be activists! The teachers are also teaching that using violence when you've been subject to hurt feelings. Things are not good on so many levels!

[@fionagregory9376]

I had no trouble at school because it was an all girls' grammar school.

[@susannahhunt100]

I am a Music Teacher I do not and never will teach students to use violence. Where on earth do you receive your information?

[@user-vh7uo2su3h]

Just as the "police are following instructions" Teachers are following orders even when they know bad behaviour is being tolerated or rewarded. NEVER a good idea.

[@garymackay4268]

Discipline comes to mind

[@mariannesmith9404]

Things in the past which were confiscated in schools from Primary to senior schools not too many years ago were toys, hairgrips, innocent items like these. Now it is knives, home made explosives and guns !

[@MarkARhodie]

The Police and Crime Commissioner for London, should be a full time job, not a part time, considering there are nearly 10 million people.

[@herringfly]

Blade crime has been normalised over the past 20 years. A stabbing would have been to the fore of the news years ago - now it barely raises an eyebrow even when kids stab each other, or adults. The Met commissioned an inquiry in 2016, to get to the bottom of the sudden spike in knife crime. The conclusion was that it corresponded with a large influx from north-east Africa, carrying on inter-tribal conflicts on our streets, and in turn elevating the use of knives in the existing population. Needless to say, the report was quietly tucked away.

[@user-vh7uo2su3h]

Do you happen to know the name of this report? It would be good to see if a FOI could help to find out its content.

[@Camille_Anderson]

The streets are crime ridden ghettos nowadays. The influx are definitely part of the problem. It's so evident to those that see this. Police are too scared of the R word so they tread carefully, meaning it's a soft touch on them.

[@InConsulting]

Let's remove corporal punishment

[@lindahorn9644]

Peter is so level headed....such a shame he is not in the force now....he would be a huge advantage to this woke governor they have now....we might have had a decent police force.....

[@user-wl4cl1ph3b]

@lindhorn9644- I think your over estimating what he could achieve when the forces are run by the CONservative created quangos going by the name of Police & Crime commissioners on 6 figure salaries for doing absolutely nothing to police Britain

[@brianwest7344]

we all know why, just not allowed to say in the stalinist state

[@clivejones8011]

The whole establishment has focused it's efforts in the total wrong direction for years.

[@nacboxing8065]

What kind of people are we raising for kids to be like this ffs

[@ZekromReshiramVolt]

Are you??

[@user-ig4mn6cm5y]

Complaints from SPECIAL NEEDS children was OVER 60 percent last year in the UK

[@seandrew7837]

60 percent of what?

[@monicas2269]

Stabbing yesterday and a hammer attack today. What the hell is happening to this country!

[@robbeales5516]

You never ever got this sort of thing in school in the fifties sixties and seventies, only after banning the cane have pupils taken charge of the classroom 😊

[@colinworthington8712]

Part of our old, unspoken and unwritten ‘Social Contract’ was that as long as the people felt the laws in place were for the protection of all of us, were fairly arrived at, and fairly Policed and enforced, then the people would in large part comply. I think that we generally had such a society in place immediately after the end of World War 2, around the Fifties and Sixties. I say ‘generally’ because you can’t please everyone, but in the main, our larger institutions were accepted and seen as acceptable by the general public. That atmosphere has evaporated in a cloud of Blair’s and Brown’s making. The ‘Social Contract’ is broken. Our people now do not view the institutions as working for them, and the laws are for those in power.

[@TheNOISENOISEZETLAND]

Was it a teenage "girl" ? Was it?

[@mikeomolt4485]

Youngsters are seeing and learning from the actions and words of the nation's leaders, with regards to the right to protect themselves.

[@billybla]

Police needs to keep eyez on all races and government needs to spend money to improve people's lives instead giving money to other countries 😡😡

[@RC-nv6rc]

Crime will continue to rise as long as the people continue to not have enough to feed themselves......

[@denisemarionjames1487]

Our town and surrounding villages are the last place we would think that anything like this would happen. The area itself sits in a valley, surrounded by natural beauty not an inner city area. As a result no area is safe!

[@captainplatinum]

Here is thirty years of liberalism coming home to roost!

[@michaelfrankie8443]

We walk hand in hand with America so expect to live the American way ☝

[@alexanderferguson2199]

It's really not as important as the SNP.

[@abrahamdraper1911]

THE BURNING QUESTION: Why is Julia Hardly-Sober suddenly pooping up in my feed? 🤢

[@cathymitchell3613]

It's gone from the sublime to the ridiculous. 😢

[@davidharwood9552]

Police need a role definition. Certain matters protesting could be dealt with the army under the supervision of Gold Command. Police need training to serve as investigators and enforce the law

[@lloydbrowne6042]

Sympathetic and nervous approach as this was not an asylum seeker at the centre of this story. This Tory government has gutted the heart of the country’s resources. Deal with it.

[@phillipwilliams4674]

No bobbies on the beat any more, yet the motorist is under much more scrutiny by the law now than ever before! Cash cows methinks!

[@vinnyvincent2862]

Since his retirement ! Buisiness has never been so good for this ex-detective ! But for all the wrong reasons 😢

[@isabelbetts1936]

Comments are turned off again for Talk TV live. WHY?

[@hya2in8]

probably racist comments like the ones under this video

[@patrickknight6027]

Something crossed the line in the '80's. Don't know what. Possibly a confluence of a number of different things. Since the second half of the '80's the standard of most media things has consistently nose dived. The quality of most creative subjects and education in general has been eroding. Literature, fine art, cinema, and television, all are aiming for the lowest common denominator. Result, mediocrity. There is no longer a prize for originality. That prize now goes to the most divisive. Watching 'Reality TV' is watching a dog eat it's own vomit. And the ratings tell us what ? We have all become dogs. We must all now be wary of every other dog, in case we become the subject of the hoard ! Little wonder all of this finds a result, in the most twisted way's in the most vulnerable places of education and society.

[@ronnyrudeboy7461]

I would see connection of violence and behavior of police when dealing with antisemitism in UK. When police is incompetent avoiding hatred on the streets it will follow in every sector.

[@PSYCHIC_PSYCHO]

There is no anti semitism, anyone who complains about it is either experiencing a bad LSD trip, or they are delusional

[@user-ig4mn6cm5y]

14 900 complaint's from parents to Ofsted about teachers were put in last year alone

[@roselazar3605]

Lawlessness, no respect for elders , technology on increase these are all signs of things to come

[@user-vl5zq2lm9s]

Wood worm are fanned the hatred. No wonder the world is in a turmoil. 😢

[@KellySmunt303]

I steal nappies, wipes and milk almost every day. Security rarely say anything. Maybe if rent and childcare wasn't so expensive i wouldn't have to.

[@pathopewell1814]

You need to be taught a lesson. You are not clever, what about the people you are stealing from? They have to live too.

[@veraw1221]

Why dont they tell us who she is and why she did it ? It would be a lot more news worthy then discussing how worried the otner parents are and talking abour ,,,,the community??? Hes such an expert about where kids hide there knives?? Well she didnt hide hers under a tree did she ?

[@simpleinvirtue8481]

There's a major incident at kilburn high street NW6, and you are still discussing this.

[@mistycat1954]

It's now 1640 hrs the Kilburn incident happened just over 4 hrs ago give people a chance .

[@user-jc4lb5mm7x]

There is no discipline in families any longer, people spend too much time working.

[@bcoxal]

Wales needs common sense knife control and knife reforms. There are more knives than people in Wales.

[@SubjectiveFunny]

How can you control knives? What will you use to keep your fork company?

[@MDM1992]

Don't be bloody silly. We have been carrying knives for centuries i never leave home without, we just never thought of or used them as weapons. The knives aren't the issue. Inanimate objects are to blame eh? Ban everything is the answer eh? 🤦‍♂️

[@speedboostr]

Quality of news on KZbin has gone downhill

[@stevensmith8454]

And yet Cardiff Uni recently published a report saying seroius crime was down to the lowest for thirty years !

[@DonnaHetherington]

My uncle was one years ago left wonder why .

[@natashaferran]

Im from east belfast we still see officers on the beat even the harbour police go on beats here

[@lilacer6841]

No gun was used in Dunblane

[@Camille_Anderson]

Are you serious?

[@friendship9904]

I blame politics and media like this channel because of lies and supports of the crimes they do

[@GFY127]

Nationality???

[@PSYCHIC_PSYCHO]

Native white Welsh girl.

[@spudspuddy]

african

[@sirtonymayo1468]

Diversity 🎉

[@lauraeastment7491]

Its been out of control for quite a long time now.what a Muppet but never mind police are stepping up patrols in the area not before having a health and safety assessment though

[@mariannesmith9404]

I would vote for you as well.

[@ronholfly]

Nobody has mentioned the Gaming Industries producing violent games were you choose your weapon and literally go on a shooting or stabbing spree. These games even in cartoon form should be banned for children.

[@RecruitmentProgram]

Get with the times... Multiple studies shown that video games don't influence behaviour.

[@ianjones1034]

@@RecruitmentProgram The American Psychological Association consider violent video games a risk factor for aggression , however it is not clear whether exposure to violent video games is linked to criminality or deliquency

[@cunawarit]

Studies have shown that video games are not linked to real-life violence. I'm close to 50, and I've played video games since 1980, and Contra never made me hurt anyone. I still play games today, and Fortnite doesn't make me hurt anyone.

[@Camille_Anderson]

Violent movies and TV shows are a problem. I know so many gamers that are anything but violent. It's not the catalyst of societal ills.

[@dannyperfect9270]

Dear God alive Julia, let your guests talk without habitually cutting in over them

[@user-ww6eq1rs4m]

Until we stop making excuses for these kids, carrying a knife is as serious as carrying a gun, the difference is carrying a gun would put them in prison, these kids fully understand what they are doing and thats they concealed them, they know its wrong fullstop , lets stop making excuses for it, gun knife same outcome

[@NatashaLawes-xg3uk]

Certain teachers make the problem worse

[@philipgreen6085]

All my friends and me we all had pen knives. I got my first pen knife when our seven my neighbour took me camping with his son he bought me a pen knife. Mum wasn’t very pleased she let me keep it was in the mid 60s no one would dream of stabbing anyone.

[@cunawarit]

Indeed. I grew up at a time when my parents bought me a pen knife, and I never hurt anyone with it. It was just part of growing up. This is a societal problem. Knives are tools. The problem is that kids want to hurt others, not the tools they are using.

[@hinduawakening24]

Typical Liberal attitude matel detectors! Are you kiddind me? We did not have this issues when Decipline was done at home. But liberals have made us into nanny state well this is the result. God bless

[@fionagregory9376]

Get help with your spelling.

[@mariannesmith9404]

Sadiq Khan should go. Vote him out.

[@PSYCHIC_PSYCHO]

He is not the Mayor of Wales. Lastly when it comes to crime in London the root causes of which are government policies and our highly unethical economic system. No London Mayor has the power to override Central Government policies on tackling crime in London; a London Mayor job is merely to direct funding to the police, police commissioners have considerably more power over policing policies than the Mayor

[@Lutonian79992]

Can't help but think how can kids kill or try to kill other kids in this day and age , Some sort of chemical in vapes maybe ?? Just a thought 🤔

[@3D_Printing]

21 MPH get a fine

[@twiggtwigg355]

Peter bleksley.

[@greentroll9326]

what was the nationality of the knife wielder ? religion of peace perhaps

[@JosephB-tv7gf]

Thuglife and gangsta. Unlike Corbyn I am no Stormzy fan.

[@mistycat1954]

Your not imaging it but there is now a far faster communication system than 40 years ago . 40 years ago the only way you might know what happened 300 miles away was if the national papers or TV got hold of it and that would be possibly 24 hrs after the event and not Iive mobile phone you tube videos .

[@duncan548]

Was it one of them ?

[@mickeymouse-cr1mn]

Likely..

[@mattanderson6672]

What religion was the girl?

[@normansidey5258]

Wonderful in white!

[@GaryTaylor-gp2qc]

Virtually all policy , thinking and actions in the west and certainly britain is liberal left wing and woke , history will look back at this period and show just how badly it failed in just about every way possible , unfortunately i suspect that the right may over correct this moving forward

[@hmmmmm2634]

I swear Julia is a Julian. Look at his Adam’s Apple. Julian is hiding something…most likely her ⚽️⚽️

[@jumblesaleboo]

...And there we have it...Abolishing corporal punishment in schools, and then subsequently at home, is the main contributory factor to why society is breeding feral and unruly children...Most parents are too frightened to apply boundaries, due to the local authority and their overreaching and draconian children's services safeguarding practices! I remember just 10 years ago, getting a letter from the local school, outlining that my 10 year old son, was concerned that I occasionally smoked cigarettes, and had the occasional can of beer, which I might add, was only at most 4 cans maybe in a week, and I never ever became inebriated...I should have framed that letter, as it shows just how Orwellian this state has become....It stinks of culpability (in that they full shaft you, if it gets them off the hook, and makes it look like they have been proactive), and getting the children to spy on the parents, so that the schools safeguarding team can feel like they are actually worth the state funded wages that keeps them in Woman Weekly and Take A Break magazines, on a regular basis! As far as retail theft is concerned, although I am an old school Conservative, regularly sanctioning the unemployed was a BIG mistake! IF you have your state benefits reduced or stopped, I can see (although I do not agree or condone it) why people go out and steal...Surely the DWP Secretary realise, that IF you stop the income of the poor, the state will pay more in the long term, due to crime...

[@bajwakanjar7184]

You teach them sex at school you don't want them to respect patents and teachers you are teaching them no manners then obviously this had to happen.

[@AnotherMrLizard]

What has teaching them sex education got to do with stabbing someone? Religion teaches them 6 year olds can marry 40 year old men, is that what you’d rather teach them?

[@KINGSLEY-TV]

Is the suspect Palestinian by any chance?!

[@user-bq9oz4mm5v]

No you W⚓

[@KINGSLEY-TV]

@@user-bq9oz4mm5v long live Israel 🇮🇱

[@user-lf2nl1km6n]

thankfully we do have access to our guns apparently you have no right to self defense.

[@mickeymouse-cr1mn]

Ok I’m labouring under the assumption that you’re likely an American.. If so your guns were actually meant to protect the people against tyrannical government were they not? Yet while they gleefully stole your election, and then dissolved your borders in order to gain power through demographic change, your guns just sat there, as quiet as the mice that owned them..

[@raystewart3648]

Children play Grand Theft Auto and other games whilst at home. What do you expect when they get hyped over that sort of gene of game play. The brain finishes developing and maturing in the mid-to-late 20s..............mainly for reasoning and understanding right from wrong, up an till that point in time, Kids just see it as a game. Then you have adverts on TV showing people flying about because they have an EV car or something stupid like that. Then theres all those Hero Crusaders in DC Movies.

[@RecruitmentProgram]

Please get with the times... Studies have been done on media and viol e n c e, no evidence was found to prove anything.

[@RecruitmentProgram]

Games don't cause or influence anything! Just like heavy metal and movies don't either.

[@raystewart3648]

@@RecruitmentProgram Where did you get your Psychology degree buddy? Mine was Cambridge University.

[@Camille_Anderson]

​@@raystewart3648Mine was from Edinburgh University. There are no direct correlations in video gaming & this type of crime. There are billions of gamers in the world , they cannot all be psychopaths. My partner, brothers and many friends are habitual gamers who are not violent and can differentiate between reality & fantasy. In this case, the perpetrator is female and we know statistically it's a more male oriented hobby. Further information should bring to light the motive behind it, although there is speculation the girl in question was bullied.

[@raystewart3648]

@@Camille_Anderson Same could be and also have been said that not all people that have a gun will become killers, but a few will. That is not to say that what I stated is wrong. I am pointing out that such games being played by minors, their brains have yet to develop to a point that they can not see and or understand right from wrong. This has been doc many times by many over the past decade and thus has a point of interaction to which should not be rightfully denied. I spent many many years studying young people who are viewing and interacting with such gene of games as I stated in my earlier comment and have seen a dark trend among many of them develop over time. Not all become as you call psychopaths, to which I do not agree in that wording at all. However many do see the world in a different way that others, including older people would see it as.

[@johnsmith-rs2vk]

All part of Blair 's Education , education , education .

[@artsamuel2907]

Has this woman seen the mass graves in the hospital grounds in Gaza?

[@EnyawYorlig]

Immigrintle lass?

[@ukanwars]

Blame the immigrants