It Hurt So Good! 🔥Wheel Of Time Episode 6 REVIEW 🔥

[@spdcrzy]

Wheel of Time REALLY needs like 12-16 episodes per season. 8 is not NEARLY enough.

[@talmanes4589]

At least 10-12 would be nice.

[@samanthaa.6055]

Yeah I worry these last 2 are going to feel rushed. They will basically arrive in Falme in ep 8 and it will be over super quick

[@robzs8388]

what I'm confused abt is I was under the impression they were combining 2 and 3 in this season and like, no fucking way at this point. @@samanthaa.6055

[@MrCaeles]

I like that they got over an hour run time per episode though. But yeah... Same run time, 12 episodes a season would help the story a lot.

[@zyonhenderson67]

@@MrCaeles Yeah the one hour run time is making huge difference. This episode was able to give egwene character development while also progressing the story

[@herz5159]

I'm surprised you haven't mentioned this but I'm 100% sure that Ishy was not in Rand's nightmare and didnt cause it. I'm sure Lanfear made the whole thing then added a fake Ishy to pretend to protect Rand so he trusts her since she told him she's shielding his dreams!

[@DragonHeart613]

Who's Ishy?

[@fullmetalathlete]

100% agree!

[@herz5159]

@@DragonHeart613 ishamael. It's the fandom name for him and Lanfear jokingly called him that this ep too

[@musicIistener]

Omg I thought the same thing!!

[@andrewchristian7004]

Yep, which makes the fake Rand in Ishys dream make more sense plotwise

[@Lenitas]

What really stuck with me about Egwene's part of this episode was specifically the bit with tree. The sul'dam pointing at that little bit of comfort she access to and then having her destroy it.

[@musicIistener]

Not only that but also know it must have felt good to her to destroy it since embracing the power is so exhilarating and she’s never channeled that much before… very disturbing!!

[@Bt-cq6te]

the egwene's part just convinced me that the screenwriters understand the importance of the seanchan in wot, but cmon, the horn of valere is literally used in tarmon gaiden, spend some time on it

[@hollywoodguy70]

It was a perfect counter to what we saw earlier in the episode with Loial, too. We know what can be done with the Power, and the sul'dam chose fire instead of blossoms

[@anydaynow01]

This was the master stroke of the episode, and how Egwene was essentially powerless to stop it! Oh my goodness one of those moments that was better than the books! Like when spies are trained with a pet, then they have to kill the pet at the end of training, to break that last part of themselves that attaches them to humanity.

[@Kyrbi0]

Oh yeah, wish that had been touched on more. The utter inhumanity at "I know that tree brings you comfort LET'S TORCH IT!" was wonderful

[@corynydam2361]

I’m glad they’re showing how Moirane’s pathological refusal to ever tell anyone anything they don’t absolutely need to know until the last possible minute is both a tactical decision and a character flaw. In so many ways in the first few books, Moirane’s tight lipped nature sabotages her own plans, because it means even her closest allies, let alone the Emmon’s Fielders, don’t ever fully trust her. I feel as though she, and many other Aes Sedai, get so caught up in their own cleverness and power that they forget it’s possible to have a relationship with someone that isn’t either manipulative or coercive.

[@paulkelly2701]

This can be repaired but in one of two ways. One, they could have her let go of what looks to me like paranoid delusions of being attacked at all times. This results from the very precipitous stilling which would make anybody fear everything everywhere at all times. this is what I think we're seeing in her. Given she has wasted a lot of screentime sparring with her sister, that would have been much more worthy to have been her sister consoling her. They grew up together and while it was 60 years ago, they would both know the moves. Anvaere should have been able to see how deeply maimed Moriaine is and how deeply she needs help in dealing with her loss. Instead, she was, well, nasty (and it made E4 a total mess). Ok, that ship sailed. Now, Moiraine has to do the letting go herself. Book Moiraine would have sat herself down and gotten the reprimanding done. That's what needs to happen now. We need human Moiraine again.

[@ninnusridhar]

The unfortunate thing is moiraines nature comes from a very real paranoia. New spring sets up her wariness about darkfriends being absolutely anyone. So how can she trust anyone who is not her. Even siuan maybe a darkfriend, so what about anvaere or barthanes. It's what makes the wheel of time and moiraine so great imo. That sense of absolute paranoia

[@paulkelly2701]

@@ninnusridhar Well bethought. That said, the prequel was written with much of the main series already complete. We really do have to take the first books at face value and her paranoia did not reach the kids, all of whom she basically trusted intrinsically. Her main conflict bookly was that they increasingly refused to trust her and that came from prejudice built into them from childhood tales. They really believed that AS do things for Machiavellian purposes much of which would always work to the detriment of everybody else. It was the same kind of bigotry directed at the Tuatha'An and for many of the same reasons.

[@ZekeUribe3]

Wow this is really insightful and awesome comment. Thanks for that explanation of her character flaws

[@Byant]

@@ninnusridharread my mind, this is the truth

[@Nerd-rk1to]

The blood in Egwene's eyes was the best touch, I think. Awful, but freaking compelling.

[@myqueen_RegineVelasquez]

Exactly! When I saw that scene, I immediately felt like I wanted to go through the phone screen and help her escape. 🥺

[@GoblinCrusher900]

Haven't read the books, so I don't know if this a "correct" take, but anyway: Something that stuck out to me about the sul'dam character which I don't know if it was intended, but it added another layer of horror for me: to me, she didn't come off as classicaly manupulative, but genuine in a fucked up way. When she snapped and started kicking Egwene at the end, I saw it as her being offended at how "ungrateful" Egwene was being to how "gently" she was breaking her spirit. Her acting out of what she honestly percieved as mercy and kindness made the whole thing feel all the more fucked up. Villains who do horrible things while still showcasing some sort of twisted emotional intelligence are terrifying.

[@jessicahojo7682]

That's exactly how it was intended and she did an amazing job. Only difference from the books is that she used the Adam for the pain because to harm the property of one of the blood would be a death sentence for herself. They wouldn't physically damage a damame physically, but considering how challenging that would be to show the sensations versus smacking her around, I think we all can forgive that adjustment for the medium. But yes suldam do not do as they do out of sadism. They have been convinced it is the right/proper/true way and having women with that much power without someone to control it would be disastrous. So they employ it for the empire and if they control all the channelers no one would have the power to stand against them. So for the blood/power it makes two fold sense. Mitigate potential threats/wild cards and grow your own power simultaneously. Win win for Sanchean. Only sucks to be born with the spark and be able to channel.

[@Tjalve70]

@@jessicahojo7682One thing I can add to what you said, is that the Seanchan don't see damane's as persons. They see them more as dangerous animals. So in fact, I felt the sul'dam treated Egwene too gentle. She treated Egwene as a person, while she should have treated her as an animal. I do agree with what you said about using the a'dam for torture. I didn't like it while I was watching it. But I agree that it would be difficult to show such torture in a TV show. So I guess that's one adaptation I have to agree with.

[@anydaynow01]

So agreed, the way she physically punished her, but at the same time gave her "head pats" earlier, like an owner gives a pet, just emphasized the dehumanizing effect the Seanchan have on their subjects! This whole sequence of scenes and how they were broken up over the course of the episode was just masterful!

[@robertbeckel7378]

You phrased this perfectly. The reason why war is inevitable is because of their own vision of humanity and where channelers fall on that spectrum.

[@2NE1STEPO]

Someone pointed it out in a different video, but the show has consistently used water as a metaphor for channeling and egwene pouring water into Renna’s cup symbolized egwene giving her power up to her suldam

[@ngrans3361]

Nice catch.

[@LrnecBuma]

Water also has huge symology across the series.

[@arenkai]

That's neat indeed

[@misturdaniel]

I think the portrayal of Renna is one of the best on the show, hands down. Perfect mix of unwavering belief in what she's doing and scary Seanchan cruelty 👌

[@Kylora2112]

And that Seanchan cruelty is just Tuesday for them.

[@anival9576]

Yes, my favorite part too. Xelia Mendes-Jones did a good job!

[@LordNovaPrime1]

Came here to say the same thing. That performance during those scenes was brilliant.

[@hikari9262]

Tbh, I wasn't really noticing the acting of Renna's actor because of the acting of Egwene"s actor.

[@shauntempley9757]

Both were stellar.@@hikari9262

[@BrittnyShrub]

That moment where the Suldam told Egwene she was not a woman really cut deep after how proud Egwene was to finally be a woman during the ceremony in season 1.

[@tooslow4065]

i bet she wishes she'd have kept her mouth shut and stayed at the tower about now.

[@anydaynow01]

@@tooslow4065 Bro, this is just the tip of the iceberg, it only gets more insane from here, well if they at least loosely follow the books. However this episode was better than the books in illustrating just how incredibly heinous and self-righteous the Seanchen are.

[@mmorgan1980]

I was ridiculously happy when Logain told Rand to stop trying to embrace the source and seize it instead. Lol.

[@brendondavid7349]

Isn’t he gentled in the show though? How the hell did he know Rand was embracing the source let alone how much of it

[@James-ov8pg]

@@brendondavid7349 I think that's one of the things the show is ignoring for simplicity's sake. Kinda like how they did to men and women not being about to see the other's saidar or saidin weaves.

[@joem.6233]

@@James-ov8pg Also, even in the books, not all of the talents were actually tied to the one power.

[@MrJasper609]

@@brendondavid7349 In the books. You can still see the source after being Severed （Gentled(Men)/Stilled(woman)） you just cannot touch it. Ishamael in the show also taunts Moiraine with this.

[@Parker8752]

@@MrJasper609Yeah; that's a large part of why people who are severed don't typically survive very long - if they couldn't feel it there as a constant reminder, they could possibly get used to no longer feeling it there, but the constant reminder is the worst part.

[@auntie_M]

Can we talk about the subtle yet beautiful interplay between Rhyma Sedai and her Warder Basan while they battled? Like as a yellow, I wouldn't imagine she and her wander have an insane amount of combat experience, and it's their bond and how they play on one another strengths that I wish we could have seen with any of the other Aes Sedai-Warder bonds. Nyokabi Gethaiga gives 100% Aes Sedai Grace and Cunning, and I'm heartbroken for the loss of Basan as well as her future as Damane.

[@Sus.00077]

Man that scene really had me crying lol the actress playing rhyma really did that man

[@The8merp]

I kind of hated how that scene ends, they both knew they were walking towards their death, but somehow she is so broken over the warders death, she forgets that her entire goal was to cause as much damage as possible and not get taken alive, which she failed at, like maybe instead of twisting that suldam into a pretzel out of anger, just snap their neck lady !

[@arenkai]

I love how the Suldam starts very kind and nearly sorry for her to put her at ease. But as the episode progresses and Egwene refuses to break, she starts becoming more overtly abusive and manipulative. That head pat at the beginning felt so wrong...

[@samanthaa.6055]

Good cop and bad cop lol

[@kr0k3tt]

Yeah they did a good job of depicting how depraved that whole relationship is. The headpat while so wrong was just right for showing exactly how bad it is

[@idjles]

That head pat was to show Egwene is just a pet.

[@anydaynow01]

Oh my, that head pat was just a masterstroke, it almost felt like one of those unscripted moments the kept in post! It was just one of the many moments that made this element of the story the best so far in the series.

[@ndo533]

Wrong and condescending

[@leec9489]

Lanfear actually referred to Ishamael as ‘Ishy’ in this episode! 😂 It’s probably there for fan service since I’m sure no one actually used that abbreviation in the books, but it was used in context and added a humorous touch for the book fandom!

[@tjadenjason]

It was DELICIOUSLY PERFECT for show Lanfear. She is the Queen of Extra.

[@Naseemjones]

The fact that the Seanchan used the tree that they knew was a small source of comfort for Egwene and made her destroy it was a masterclass in manipulation and sociological trauma.

[@Tjalve70]

I agree. And one thing I felt wasn't shown well enough in the show, is that it isn't the damane who controls what her power is used for. The damane supplies the power, and the sul'dam shapes it. So when Egwene opened herself up for the power, it was her sul'dam who burned the tree. And there was nothing Egwene could do to stop it.

[@anydaynow01]

Talk about emotional damage!

[@Glokta4]

I love how they handled Egwene with the Seanchan. I worried they wouldn't do the torture justice, and I'm happy the worries were unfounded.

[@jamesalexander958]

Still didn't feel right. Almost all the scenes were just in a random dungeon

[@herz5159]

​@@jamesalexander958🙄 some people will never be satisfied tbh. They did a great job and were very accurate to the source material. Having her in "the kennels" instead of a room is actually much better for a visual show. This is an absurd complaint

[@jamesalexander958]

​@@herz5159 That's an absurd rebuttal. How can you even type that with a straight face? Nothing about the show is accurate to the source material.

[@Suck_Squeeze_Bang_Blow]

Gobsmacked. For what it is, and it is not a faithful adaption of the books in entirety, this was a brilliant episode. The best so far by a loong way.

[@musicIistener]

@@jamesalexander958if you base all your judgements on how “book accurate” the show is you will live your life consistently disappointed. Visual mediums are inherently different to writing mediums, things HAVE to change not only logistically from the standpoint of how much things cost to film/cast/build sets for but also because a completely book accurate wheel of time show would not be fun to watch. I’ve read all 14 books in the main series and it’s undeniable how much slog there is… it’s no necessary to include every single little thing in the show and it would not be enjoyable to watch and would take 30+ years to film and produce. Be realistic, because your critique is quite literally the definition of absurd.

[@MustafaAlmosawi]

Can we get some love for the scene with Liandrin and Lanfear? Setting up the horrible relationship that the more elite Darkfriends have with the various forsaken, and how contemptuously Lanfear snuffs out a fireball - ‘first one’s free’ is one of my favourite scenes. Also beyond the horrible torture of Egwene, seeing the pain on Mat’s face as he processed what Min is telling him. 😭 Why does it hurt so good?

[@briane8627]

I really liked that scene too. But the phrase, first ones free" just sounds off, like something you would hear in our world, not theirs. It's too modern.

[@MustafaAlmosawi]

@@briane8627 i took it as it was meant to be out of place, Lanfear coming from the Age of Legends and all.

[@Josh-the-man]

​@@briane8627lanfear is from a modern world lol

[@briane8627]

@@MustafaAlmosawi it sounded more like something valan luca would say . But hey, small potatoes as they say.

[@smaug1234]

Every scene Lanfear is in she eats the screen imo, that scene and the one with Rand to start the episode are both fantastic. So much character in two short scenes. The eggy scenes were the meat of the episode, but there is a lot of gravy going around in the other plot lines, and hopefully they finally turned the oven on for Lan.

[@camma12]

I also loved how Logain explained to Rand how to embrace Saidin telling him he basically had to grab it and force it to do what you want showing there is a big difference between the male and female half of the power

[@briane8627]

I don't think that sequence did what you think it did. It showed that men can embrace the one power, however inefficiently, through surrendering to it. That doesn't reinforce the one power gender binary, it further undermines it. Still, a really good episode though!

[@MariaSantos-ni6cv]

@@briane8627 good point 👉

[@leec9489]

⁠​⁠@@briane8627I’m not so sure the show undermined it. My interpretation was that Rand may have initially subconsciously seized the One Power, but then surrendered and let it slip through his fingers so to speak, hence his failure to control the weaves in previous episodes. Logain could be referring to this. Additionally though, Logain dropping in the word ‘surrendering’ here does, at the very least, help to simplify the difference in how to embrace Saidin / Saidar for show-only watchers, and sometimes you need to simplify for a visual medium, much like how a Gentled Logain shouldn’t really be able to see Rand embrace the source in the first place.

[@briane8627]

But this doesn't simplify things. Having Rand try to surrender to saidin and fail (with some handy visual queues) only to be corrected by Logain to seize the power would have made things very clear. Neat and simple. They didn't do that. His surrendering to Saidin method clearly worked to some degree. Its fine. But it does needlessly muddy the waters. Why make things more opaque when you don't have to? @@leec9489

[@brendondavid7349]

@@briane8627Logain is also gentled so he should t be able to feel Rand embrace the source.

[@cloudrunner7]

We are given plenty of information throughout the books that Elayne was terribly sheltered and that as far as "friends" she had no one but "acquaintances". The Royal family on Andor is her world. We are given multiple glimpses of how she was not allowed to do certain things only because she is the Daughter Heir. Part of the allure of Rand when he fell over the wall was the simple fact that he was a stranger. She is so starved for outside contact that she is immediately enraptured with him. Go back and read it. BTW Lanfear created an Ishy to use as a foil to show how she was on Rand's side and protecting him. The fact that he dissolved without even a little struggle proves it. He would not be so easily dismissed.

[@SpydeyDan]

Unless they are working together to pull Rand towards Falme. It's one of their shared objectives. I think either interpretation of the scene is valid.

[@arenkai]

​@@SpydeyDanI think it's more reasonable to assume he's a fake than assuming Ishamael and Lanfear are working in perfect sync with one another, going to the point where Ishamael would accept to appear weaker than Lanfear to Rand, even for a trick. Having him be a fake also paints Lanfear as a master gaslighter more so than if she had Ishamael's help imo. Both interpretations are possible, sure, but one fits better with who the characters are I think.

[@musicIistener]

@@matthewhawkins1458I think you’re taking this too personally

[@talmanes4589]

@@arenkai I just don't think it really matters. The aim of the ploy is the same either way and works either way. I lean a little towards it probably being a dream fake Ishy but really can't see how it makes any difference.

[@tjadenjason]

I was thinking similar thoughts about Elayne. She had people she knew, but was sheltered away to where she never had the chance to have any really-for-real *friends*.

[@The_Throngler]

The performance of Egwene was so powerful I didn't know whether to cry or clap!

[@Elsie1_z]

I'm seeing a lot of people jumping on the "Min is a darkfriend! Its a character assassination!" but I think everyone is forgetting that Min was helping Liandrin originally, not Ishamael. She thought Liandrin, an Aes Sedai, would be able to help her. It was only once they were on the road that Ishamael showed up. He even said something along the lines of "did you really think that was something that an aes sedai alone could do?" she's trapped between Ishamael, Liandrin, and Mat, and is obviously being set up for a redemption.

[@robzs8388]

ye honestly i kind of reacted when Daniel said she was a sort of a darkfriend bc that wasn't rly my interpretation of what's happened to her.

[@LrnecBuma]

Im convinced this plotline is built out of that one scene Min meets Lanfear. Developing her seeing her gift not as something to get rid of but to use to keep the emons feilders away from the forsaken

[@TheMercysProphet]

While I don't see a problem with Min being a dark friend, initially I felt the same when Daniel said those words. Watching the show it seemed she felt like she was hunted (because her visions, not because she was a df) by Ishy. I never felt that min said the vow to the dark one. SPOILERS don't read on if you haven't read the book. It felt to me more like signing a contract with a devil, but not for your soul but for your service, because its easy to manipulate someone who has seen herself with the dragon reborn and in order to get closer to him (we know ishy wants to defeat Rand and it be marked in the sky) (in the books I'm pretty sure she sees the vision of 3 married and her self having to share). I don't dislike how the shows portraying this but I think its wrong to assume she's a DF from what we've seen so far.

[@thecroc]

Yeah I'm pretty sure she hasn't spoken any vows and is more a victim of being scammed into it. I guess they are working her towards swearing oaths so they can then turn around and force her to use her gift for the shadow.

[@angelavm84]

Exactly. I think even Liandrin didn't realize what she was getting into and she KNEW she was dealing with the dark. I'll always defend Min and this Min is great. Rand needs somebody like her in his life.

[@stephenbetley9596]

Barney was great, but a bit too dour for my liking. Donal is absolutely nailing Mat. I think we're really going to see a lot more of him in the last 2 episodes. I hope. Fully with you on Natasha O'Keefe. Has given Lanfear a depth that was often missing in the books. Just superb nuance in her acting. Extending the episodes even by 5-10minutes to actually tell a story each time has payed off so well this season.

[@talmanes4589]

I think Lanfear has a lot more depth than any of the other forsaken outside of Ishy in the books too. But yea, she's killing it. As are Mat and Elayne's actors.

[@stephengrant4841]

I think Donal will do a better job at displaying the more heroic side of Mat, and the sort of happy-go-very lucky part of his personality. Need to see him complain about boots and lacquered shirts before I'm fully set on him though

[@robzs8388]

well he KINDA low-key did by ribbing Rand for looking like shit when Rand was literally dressed as a Lord :) @@stephengrant4841

[@tjadenjason]

Liandrin and Lanfear are both better on the show than in the books.

[@tjadenjason]

@@stephengrant4841 He's no bloody noble! He just likes a bit of lace, is all.

[@filipjovanovic8138]

The last episode of season 1 felt like a slap in the face, but man have they redeemed themselves with season 2 . I love it so far. Such a huge step up. Obviously things are still way different than in the books, but it actually feels like WoT now

[@Ras137]

I blame Barney Harris and Covid for that atrocity.

[@tjadenjason]

@@Ras137 Agreed. The last episode was the one most crushed by COVID. Not just Barney but also the Ingtar actor from S1 couldn't continue to S2 (so got renamed "Lord Yokai"), the Blight location they had prepped in the Azores they couldn't return to so they had to literally build that Blight-forest in a warehouse at the last minute, they couldn't go back inside the original Fal Dara castle location sets, they couldn't have extras on set so no big battle scene (instead Agelmar and the horsemen riding into a CGI wall fort and then having small close-up fights through arrow slits with just a few stunt people), even having to film the channeling scene 6 feet apart. Not *everything* that went wrong was due to COVID, but A LOT of stuff was, and that bent and deformed so many other things around it. I'm happy to give some grace for everything that happened there, but S1E8 was a messy patchwork with some cool moments. S2 has definitely raised the bar a ton, and I'm psyched to see it continue to grow. I'm hopeful we get more episodes in future seasons.

[@Adamdidit]

@@tjadenjason I'd like to add things to your list like no reshoots, actor schedule conflicts (especially Daniel Henney) due to the screwed up timeline, and trying to get CGI done when every CGI company was suddenly extra mega swamped. So they couldn't really redo scenes, touch up anything or even fix a lot of errors. The fact that most of S2 was actually done before S1 even premiered tells me they had much greater designs for s1.

[@alcovitch]

@@Adamdidit Jesus some of you will make up any excuse to ignore the shit stain this show is on the Wheel of Time legacy. Shame on you all.

[@charliecundiff]

Like how Loial died but nobody remembers that happened, including him

[@slfteach89]

Rand, Mat, Egwene, and Lanfear were 100% the highlights of this episode. And that's not a dig on anyone else, everyone was amazing, but those four had such intense moments that were so perfectly done. This season really has done so much growth from season 1, genuinely excited for more

[@Kylora2112]

Natasha O'keeffe is KILLING it. Then again, I love scenery-chewing villains, like Raul Julia as Bison in Street Fighter. Villains who revel in being the villain (rather than just being *evil*) are great :) I also think Lanfear made a fake Ishy in that Tel'aran'rhiod scene to make it that much easier to show that she's "protecting" Rand from him (as well as her being a master of TAR, though that means when they introduce the TRUE queen of TAR, Moghedien, they'll have to let her actress really have fun being unhinged).

[@anydaynow01]

I also like the story how Logain is shaping to be Rand's teacher, it really sets things up quite well for him being the head of the Black Tower!

[@DarthHawthorne]

The Elayne and Nyneave interaction where they tell Ryma they are going to save Egwene felt like their relationship from the books. The two playing off each other is so good. Also, the show expanding the water cup thing from a single paragraph in book to a whole episode was an amazing choice.

[@isaaccolyar1379]

Honestly, Egweyne's Suldam's accent is probably the most book-accurate in my eyes. The fact that they had all of the Seanchan have american accents is great imo.

[@JoelJoel321]

Seanchan having American accents is such a relief, like thank god someone is looking out for these details.

[@alcovitch]

In what world did the Seanchan in the books have American accents? What are you guys smoking to suck up the crap from this show so much?

[@JoelJoel321]

@@alcovitch It's widely believed that Robert Jordan said the Seanchan have texan accents. There is an interview where he said this apparently. Moreover have you ever looked at a WOT full world map? Seanchan is quite clearly the Americas.

[@isaaccolyar1379]

@@alcovitch If you read Jordan and Sanderson's descriptions about how the Seanchan speak, a lot of people have speculated that they're describing how someone would process hearing someone with an American accent for the first time. I always imagined them having a slight southern drawl, but I'm honestly okay with what they're doing in the show.

[@anydaynow01]

Yes the USA accent they use for the Seanchen and not changing it was a very good decision, I do hope we get the different dialects of USA like Texan, Great Lakes, NYC and California based on where they are from but that's a tough ask!

[@Bookofscrawls]

Maybe this will tone down some of the Egwene hate from a large swath book readers, cuz she suffers so much, at so young of an age, and it would wreck her psyche so much, and how she builds after that is some of the best character work in the series.

[@alcovitch]

No because she's not Egwene from the books.

[@organicgrains]

I don't think....Min confesses to being a darkfriend, or that she is one at all. If Min is a darkfriend by way of being manipulated by Forsaken, then we could consider Rand to be as well. She's slave to her condition as is Rand. She fully rejected Ishamael's proposal by telling Matt the truth, even after all the work she put into it.

[@tiudesvx5400]

No the writers have turned her into a drakfriend who got drunk and felt guilty. This version of min has been given no redeeming qualities, he’ll she happily jumped in bed with the darkness for her own selfish reason.

[@korpdawg]

My impression of Elayne was that everyone she meets sees her as the Daughter Heir and what she could mean for them. Egwene being her first real friend without knowing/caring about her title.

[@hannahpreece3651]

Elaine didn’t have friends because no one saw her, they only saw the daughter heir. Egwene doesn’t treat her like the daughter heir and is not awed or impressed. It’s the first time Elaine has a friend who likes her for her.

[@Ravenclaw1991]

Everything Egwene went through was so hard to read and even harder to actually watch. But Ryma really hurt. She wasn't there for long, but she really made an impact and what she did to the damane and suldam was bad ass

[@fhydan]

Her taking off her ring and handing it to Nynaeve hurt

[@vojtechvincibr4742]

She will be back

[@wvmom9748]

The way she shrieked in absolute pain when they killed her Warder was great as well. Really show cases the affect on both by the bond they share. I think it's much better representation than all this stuff with Moiraine, and Lan has been. You actually feel Ryma's complete devastation at her Warders death. Then the utter rage when she folded up that Sul'dame. It was painful and heart wrenching, but great writing as well.

[@mmmchkplss1203]

As someone who knew next to nothing about Wheel of Time other than what little tidbits my father has told me growing up, I think from an outsiders perspective that this show is objectively now a VERY good show. Season 1 was ok but every episode in Season 2 has had me so hooked, awestruck, and excited and I really can't wait for more 🤩 its so good!

[@aaronstillwell9492]

For my son who has never read the books, it was the same for him... alas i've read the series at least a dozen times. I am trying to watch it as a generic fantasy show though lol

[@warpswede]

I'm having the same issue. I've re-read the books multiple times and couldn't finish the first season. I'm still keeping tabs and someday, maybe I'll try to watch again.@@aaronstillwell9492

[@n.i.k.o5199]

This was the episode which finally turned my feelings around and made me like what I see. I realized my problem wasn't the fact that we are way too far from following the books, it's not impossible to like something so different, but if I'm being honest, most of the time I think I was just simply bored out of my mind. Not anymore though if it continues like this. I was so impressed by most of the episode, the actors/actresses knocked it out of the park, amazing job. I want to throw a thousand awards at Madeleine, I honestly don't know how she did it, but she did it and it was flawless. I will always miss Barney as Mat, nothing can change that but it warms my heart to see that Dónal Finn has all the charm that needed to embrace this role. He will do AMAZING.

[@Maxavian]

It is definitely possible to like something different. My problem has never been they were doing something different. My problem has always been everything different they are doing is worse in every way from what Jordan gave us. If you're going to have the hubris to do an iconic work "different" you dang well better make it just as good, if not better. It's no coincidence that your feelings happened to "turn around" in an episode in which the best scenes were ones that was pretty darn book accurate. I imagine feelings would have turned around a lot sooner had we had Perrin saving Egwene from the Whitecloacks and the struggle with taking a life in season one. Or Mat's iconic scene besting Galad and Gawyn with a quarterstaff while still reeling from the effects of the dagger. Or Thom thrusting his bundle with the harp and flute at Mat and Rand and taking on a Fade in Whitebridge. It's just a shame they throw away so much of the actor's talents. Mat is a perfect example. We finally had a chance to see him develop and grow with Rand (they did in the books a lot on the way to Tar Valon), and then they did him dirty by having him "ditch his friends" AGAIN.

[@sarahmoore4526]

Well said!

[@robzs8388]

ye man i'm with you, I never had a problem with them telling an original story, like you can never perfectly adapt between mediums etc etc., but the first season was just totally UNFOCUSED; rushed in some places, IMPOSSIBLY slow in others; this season has been such a meteoric improvement on damn near every front. Oh also this season is so good that it got me to go back and rewatch se1; gotta say, there WERE definitely some standout scenes in that season, they were just spread very thin amidst a bunch of gunk. The show is really starting to flex some muscle now, and if it can maintain this level of quality, I think we'll start to get some really great word of mouth going!

[@feral_orc]

​@@Maxavianthat Mat scene would be iconic if it was in any way earned. The first three books are all schlock as well compared to the rest of them so I'm not sure what point you're trying to make about the changes being "good", the books weren't that good either 😂

[@idjles]

Madeleine being dragged into that chamber at the beginning was amazing acting - it set the tone.

[@gregmortimer]

This tells you all you need to know about how good this episode was: I'm watching the series with my Son who's not read the books. I'm trying my hardest to keep quiet and not spoil anything (in fact I refuse to spoil anything for him, party because I never know if the show will hold to the plot/character development from the books). Anyway, he loved episode 5 and starting to learn what the Foresaken are and that they're next level above the Aes Sadai, but at the end of Episode 6 he just turned to me and said "Have they signed up season 3 yet?" It says it all. That episode moved things from "Ok this is cool watching an ok show with my Dad, cos I know he loves it so much and it must be good" to "I want more of this, much more of it!" Egwene's scenes were obviously outstanding, but I have to say I'm loving Lanfear. Natasha O'Keefe has smashed it. Her casual confidence with the power is exactly what a Foresaken should be like. Wow, wow, wow. Lets hope the show continues on this upward arc, or at least maintains this level - that would be fine actually. Just keep delivering like this!

[@dorkf1sh]

I'm glad they're not shying away from the cruelty and "life is hard" moments. It's those moments that Jordan used so effectively to illustrate the good v evil struggle and what's at stake.

[@robzs8388]

I can never forget when I go back in the books now that Jordan was in seriously deep shit in Vietnam. He absolutely saw the worst kind of shit life can produce and that comes through in his writing.

[@final_friday]

Loved the Ogier song. It was not how I imagined it in the books: it was much better. When the seanchan first commanded Loial to sing I was sure it would be a demeaning scene for him, but instead, it was a powerful display of alien magic. I thought that was why Suroth abruptly asked him to stop. Not because she was "not the center of attention" but because she felt the change in the atmosphere. The seanchan all started to look uncomfortable as Loial sang. I think that on some level they realized almost instinctively that they were making light of something ancient and sacred.

[@koloblicin4599]

I think she didn't actually anticipate the magic part, attributing it to some far Westerner's folklore. Then unexpectedly an uncollared servant starts 'channeling' right in front of the high blood. No wonder they were spooked and she quickly diverted the attention.

[@chocopuddingcup83]

Ryma gave Nynaeve her Yellow ring! Now Elayne and Nynaeve have green and yellow rings for later.

[@Bluenamii]

Whoever of you decided to reverse the books truly feeds on our suffering. My eyes are bleeding! Great video, by the way!

[@kittycannoli7225]

My thoughts: Lan: He definitely feels like the character most drastically altered to allow for the other characters story lines, which like, we all LOVE Lan, but I can see how if you have to sacrifice a main crew to narrative he'd probably be the most logical one. It still leaves plenty of space for his big moments later. Elayne: I don't think we ever get much pre-story Elayne life, but I could easily be wrong. I took at it as yeah she has friends, but Egwene is the first person she met where El is like, oh your my subject, and Eggy is like, oh, well you're the subject of my disdain XD aka Elayne's first true friend. Trauma bonding is a huge theme and Eggy is almost certainly the first person Elayne has trauma bonded with. Mat: I really liked the Mat and Rand reunion, felt very Mat, the other parts made sense but it was hard to say how "true" it felt, which so little time on the show. Lanfear: Perfect (I would also sit in a box for thousands of years for shirtless Rand 🤤) Perfect moment in the dream where she's like I'll show you anyone, he's thinking, we cut back to Lanfear and (at least with book knowledge) you KNOW she KNOWS he's about to pic a woman and that woman is gonna be on the hit list lmao. Fantastically done scene for readers. Logain: Hard to compare to books since he's in such a different place, but I liked that this was probably the most direct (non-animated) mention of male and female access to the power being different. I've seen a lot of things saying like oh, Rand was surrendering to the source, he couldn't even touch it that way, but I personally took it as he was still grabbing it, it was just a weak hold, he held it but let the source do as it willed and almost control him, but then Logain gives the very book cannon, no, you must *grip* it and then suddenly homeboy gets so much taint at once he vomits. Also loved that Rand turned it from to night to brighter than day, great touch. Egwene: I said perfect before but that was but a temporary shadow in Tel'aran'rhiod to Egwene's scenes and performance here. Probably the most accurate series of sequences in the series so far and OMG Maddy had the BEST performance in the entire series. Like, we might have to wait a few seasons for there even to be a scene strong enough to have a performance that could compare. Nynaeve: Also doing great and embodying her character. I'm on ~54 of Fire of Heavens on my re-listen so seeing the seeds of Nyn and Elayne bickering was nice XD Can't believe I'm saying 8.5 out of 10 seems too low for me XD Legit 10/10 in my book (hehe). Still a few things could be better but I'm not one to say you can't ever be perfect so 10's don't exist.

[@ThatRandomDutchGuy]

"Oh, well, you're the subject of my disdain" 😂

[@sztana_eco3431]

Who knew the best storyline was the one closest to the books. But in all seriousness, they nailed the Egwene scenes 😳Has me not only excited for the remainder of the series but for what's to come in future seasons because they set this up so well

[@reidchikezie1161]

OMG, I was in tears by the ending, the actress portraying Egwene was too good!!!!

[@Auridus]

I was a very harsh detractor of the first season and I can honestly say I'm glad to have given season 2 a try. This really has been a substantial step up and, while different in a lot of ways from the books, is pretty quality TV. I hope the rest of the season and series continues this trend.

[@ninnusridhar]

Egwene is arguably my most favourite character from WOT. Ive seen some people argue that she is a mary sue. And im absolutely glad this episode hammers home how that is not the case. Egwene has been broken, and put herself back together stronger than ever before. She learns from everyone. Her enemies, her allies, she doesnt care. She will use them as a whetstone to become so sharp she will never be collared again. Why is she suddenly so good at channeling? Coz she was abused and tortured until she was! I LOVE THIS EPISODE SO MUCH

[@LordNovaPrime1]

As someone who absolutely despises book Egwene, this portrayal I like. I'm worried I won't like her down the road but she is knocking it out of the park right now and I'm here for it.

[@Ceej474]

I feel the same about Egwene. Much like some people don’t like what Sanderson did with Mat, I don’t like what Sanderson did with Egwene in terms of certain personality traits (her overall arc was spectacular). But I remember thinking in the latter books that Egwene was almost regressively petty in some ways despite all the torture and Aiel training and white tower stuff. Anyway I hope we get her same amazing character arc minus the layer of pettiness that crept in at the end with Sanderson’s writing that didn’t match the experience and wisdom she’d gained from everything else!

[@LordNovaPrime1]

@Ceej474 it's strange how different people see different characters. I think a lot of the reason people dont mention Egwene when talking about characters Sanderson struggled with is because a lot of people (myself included) thought Egwene was always that childish and petty so we don't see regression in the character like you do. I just always find that interesting how people can get totally different vibes and personalities from the same character

[@enicole1203]

They definitely had to get thrown against a wall. They were in hostile territory, everyone was looking for them, and Basan's only other options were to try to grab them and risk them channeling, or trying to convince them he wasn't a threat while they were exposed in the street. Incapacitating them and bringing them where they can be spoken to in private was literally the safest option.

[@seav80]

I read in another video's comments that an alternative idea that is book canon was for Nyneave to recognize a Yellow Ajah sigil put up by Ryma at her place.

[@TheOnlyWay2Go.]

@@seav80 except so far in the show we haven't been shown that Nyneave has even interacted alone with another Ajah's Aes Sedai without Liandrin. That she would even know what to look for.

[@tooslow4065]

@@TheOnlyWay2Go. is that cause shes too stupid to know? cause she sure is dumb. we also dont know that she DOESN'T know the other aes sedai. either way, no, getting knocked out wasnt the only way for them to get rescued. that was dumb. what if one of them fell against a rock and died? or guards just happen to go around the corner? lazy writing.

[@Wh4tsupy0]

I loved this episode, definitely the best of the season so far. I’ve never felt so happy and yet so revolted as while watching Egwene’s scenes. They really nailed it.

[@robaphone251]

My favorite little moment of this episode was the absolute look of exasperation/frustration on Moiraine's face when Rand said he had to get away from her. I could just imagine as soon as the camera cut her muttering something like 'you stupid boy!"

[@lanceb247Upload]

I really appreciated that moment as well!

[@anydaynow01]

Like when your kid tells you they are joining the military, you just throw up your hands in frustration and hope for the best!

[@Mephistolomaniac]

I was very pleasantly surprised at the scene showing logain at a Go board. I never expected to see the game of Stones depicted in the show

[@bhbluebird]

I haven't read the source material, so I had no expectations. I'm am really enjoying this show.

[@honest_cake]

I'm so glad the Logain scene finally acknowledged some differences between Saidin and Saidar (even though they are not explicitly named). Logain accuses Rand of "surrendering" to the Power, urging him to instead seize and control it. I like to think that's what allowed Rand to finally draw in lightbulb-amounts of Power. Speaking of, I hope your eyeballs are okay Daniel! :P

[@rebekkahdavi8493]

I think Logain might have changed his original assessment of his and Rand’s power levels. He told Moraine that he and Rand had the same level of power. I suspect he feels differently now.

[@Tjalve70]

Unfortunately, I don't think you're right. I think they are presenting it as two different ways to grab the power. In the books, the women were surprised that Saidin and Saidar were so different. In the show, it seems like there is no distinction, and that Logan is just telling Rand to grab it.

[@Echidna23Gaming]

​@@Tjalve70there is very obviously a distinction consider the fact that Moiraine said in s1e8 that she can't teach rand how to channel and that she went through so much trouble in s2 to get Logain close to rand so he could help him channel. If there was no distinction, rand could have been sitting in on the trainings Moiraine was giving Egwene in s1

[@Tjalve70]

@@Echidna23GamingYou are right about this. But the way this show has presented it, I think they want to minimize the difference as much as possible. We'll just have to wait and see.

[@firstlast-oo1he]

Just imagine a 10-12 episode season with this level of quality.

[@stephengrant4841]

That's whats really holding the show back imo. With just a few more episodes, just two really, they could develop everything so much more

[@anydaynow01]

This is so true, we don't need over the top CGI in every episode, just give a compelling well thought out and written story every episode for like you said 10-12. This is what Andor did so well, they put a nix on the special effects except for a few over the top moments and just told one of the best character stories in Star Wars history! This is also why the SW prequels and sequels failed, they put visual screen candy over a good story and script, but they did sell a lot of merch, which is what they were essentially, six long toy commercials.

[@PennyAfNorberg]

or go strange thing s4 and let them be 1h30min or longer?

[@berserker8884]

Also Lanfear calling Ishamael "Ishy dear" was everything I could ever want. 10/10

[@thepeoplesjewels]

best episode yet, they nailed it. You can really feel Egwene's hatred from being leashed.

[@anydaynow01]

And the emotional damage she will carry for the rest of the story/series as a result! They really needed to drive that horrific experience home to the viewers for the rest of Egwene's story arc to make sense and the writer who came up with her story and script delivered in spades!

[@Jake-hw9kp]

I was super impressed with this episode, largely down to Egwene's scenes. Madeleine Madden deserves an award for this performance imo, she was genuinely incredible, her eyes!!!!

[@Elidrys]

Egwene was a captivating powerhouse of acting, heartbreak, pain, and power. Actress killed it so hard. Show has been getting better and hit or miss at times, but way better than season 1 and growing on me. But man, Egwene, that was hard to watch, but really well done.

[@JanusThePaladin]

I enjoyed the subtle foreshadowing during the study of the a'dam with *spoiler* Elayne's talent to identify ter'angreal

[@italolima5635]

If the sweet Ryma could do that with healing I can’t imagine what some ruthless Aes Sedai like Chesmal and Temaile or even deeper someone like Semihage could do with the power

[@anydaynow01]

Agreed, Elaida and Cadsuane are going to really set things off when they enter the chat! Not to mention Nynaeve when she starts to control her powers! But yes, Semirhage on screen will be a sight to behold!

[@Macapta]

Love that little "Dragon Reborn" Matt gives Rand. I bet if it they were alone in a place no one would heard it he would have done it more like a hype up chant you see at football games or parties.

[@know-nothingmillennial3043]

I loved the use of the pitcher as a shorthand representation of Egwene's spirit. Simple yet really clever writing by using something touched on in the book. Impressive for this show especially.

[@unknownsoldier421]

SPOILERS!!! Is it wrong of me that egwene’s torture scenes are making me really look forward to Rand and a certain chest

[@jamesschneider7591]

'Asha'man, kill.. '

[@unknownsoldier421]

@@jamesschneider7591haha yes. I just listened to that scene on audio for the first time. I got goosebumps with Rand’s order to Taim to break them

[@LordNovaPrime1]

Oh man if they nail that scene like they did here....can you imagine how great it will be to finally get to SEE that?

[@Tyiion]

@@LordNovaPrime1The actress that plays Egwene is a stronger actress. I’m afraid the actor that plays Rand would have to put in more work between seasons in order to get to that level.

[@LordNovaPrime1]

@Tyiion you're not wrong but I think he can do it. I feel like his performance has gotten better just from last season by a decent amount. It doesn't really feel like early Rand but I do feel like his spin on it is starting to grow on me and he seems more comfortable in the role

[@JDEnright]

I’m so glad that season 2 has gotten the show to where it is now. I’m genuinely so excited for what’s to come. Because of the spike in quality I encouraged my girlfriend to watch the show with me, and after even episode 7 of season 1 she really wants to read the books now. She loves Wheel of Time and hasn’t even seen the best of the show yet! At the end of the day this is the biggest win in my opinion. This show is getting people interested in the books and it’s the best case scenario for us WoT fans!

[@katieamarsh]

This week was really good. Donal’s whole vibe felt like Mat to me. The damane kennel scenes were absolutely brutal and nailed the whole vibe of being in the a’dam. I never would have believed that I would be antsy for the next episode of wot.

[@trumanb4758]

Egwene's treatment at the hands of the Seanchan was going to be make or break for this show for me. It affected me so much in the books, if they hadn't dealt with it well in the show i was out. To my utter surprise and delight they surpassed the books. I was actually harrowed during some scenes and near tears at the end. Very well done indeed. This was head and shoulders the best episode of the show. I'm still in.

[@stviz87]

Egwene's collared scenes in the book made me almost not continue reading and throwing the book across the room. I'm glad they did it justice in the show

[@davidbowles7281]

The fact that they teamed up with the Seanchan and didn't exterminate them made me recycle my books.

[@raze667]

I think it should be pointed out, you are not a Dark Friend, until you have taken the oaths. Unless Min has done so... she hasn't taken that step yet.

[@thabookwyrm]

I think the next two episodes are make or break for this show. They've gotta get all the pieces in place for the battle at Falme and deliver on it in two hours of television. As someone who would really like for this show to be good, waiting to see how it turns out has me nearly as on edge as i was reading this part of the original

[@smaug1234]

They probably will do that, but they actually do not have to resolve all the plotlines, season 3 is going to happen.

[@bryanevans1019]

I feel like we've gotten 3 hours of plot line and 3 hours of filler consisting of Rafe's working out on screen his childhood journaling issues.

[@SeiShinCasios]

with only two episodes left and Rand still being on the other side of the world, I grow more and more confident, that we might still get the flicker scene! my theory is that the min viewing is actually part of that Scene. i really hope it will be like the scene in everything, everywhere all at once. that would be awesome!

[@lanceb247Upload]

I’m so excited but really nervous about these last two episodes… even though I didn’t hate the final two episodes of season 1 as many book readers did. There was so much that could have been better, and I feel that the future success and continuation of the series depends upon them really nailing this season 2 finale. 😳

[@bryanevans1019]

The next episode is going to be heavy on Suian/Rand/Moraine interactions and Egwene rescue. So Falme is going to be just the final episode. Mirroring GOT...slow buildup to a big action episode.

[@TheTataxx]

They make you hate Renna so effectively that I was cheering when Ryma killed the other sul'dam in that scene. It wasn't Renna, but you hate them just as much.

[@timothywalsh9637]

A reason I really like the scenes with Nynaeve and the Yellow Aes Sedai is that it comes right after Nynaeve was betrayed by Liandrin, who I think she was starting to look up to somewhat as a role model, and gives her someone else to respect as an Aes Sedai, which will inform her character arc further down the road in terms of the books. Also, welcome to Massachusetts!

[@lyannamormont1473]

Incredible episode, wow, Egwene's story line, that torture, interaction, one can feel her pain, anger and despair, amazing acting. This season, this is some fresh unrecognizable show getting better with every new episode. p.s. 11:50 Exactly, spot on, amazing casting! Natasha O'Keeffe as Selen/Lanfear and Fares Fares as Ishamael are incredible, no other words to describe it but - they hypnotize me when on screen. Everyone is doing great, not only major roles but other ones too, for example Basan and Ryma Sedai (Yellow Ajah), especially that scene of despair when Basan is killed and she captured, oh my god, than that pure sadistic evil of that sul`dam Renna, god help us, than every interactions in Moiraine`s family, her sister, and so on, so on, just great acting overall.

[@alananimus9145]

I don't think Min is a Darkfriend. She was tricked by a dark friend and made a deal with a chosen, but she hasn't sworn oaths. I like this a lot.

[@DanielGreeneReviews]

Let’s call her a dark… acquaintance.

[@alananimus9145]

@@DanielGreeneReviews Over on the MRVL Bros channel we are giving her the "rank" of "Dark Associate".

[@milodebruin4821]

She is being strongly manipulated.

[@Cerytes]

@@alananimus9145 Promotions down the line to Dark Junior Partner?

[@anydaynow01]

This is a very important distinction, thanks for pointing it out!

[@chrisforbus9794]

I really love the complexity and diversity they are showing with the One Power and this episode hits it harder than the others. This is so crucial to making this WOT and not random magic powers of energy blasts like in Harry Potter movies. The yellow Aes Sedai twists her healing weaves she knows so well to become weapons because that is what she knows. The damane shoots a blade of air/spirit because the damane are weapons. Lanfear exploded someone's head previously because she is a ruthless Forsaken. This needs to be highlighted in your videos because this sort of detailing makes this WOT

[@BobDewane]

Let the haters, hate, Daniel. I found your channel because you were one of the only people willing to give the show a chance once it became apparent that it is not going to be letter-true to the story from the books. I share many of your concerns and criticisms of the show. I also share many of the things you get excited about. People who shit on content creators like you for being a true critic instead of fanboy enslaved to the text can go take a long walk off of a short cliff. In the meantime, I'll keep tuning in to the reviews. Well done!

[@kristiannicholson5893]

I can agree about Egwaine. In the books these scenes are like, yeah alright she had it rough, but to watch it happen is so much more. Just more everything.

[@ytinue]

Agree with everything you said! I'm particularly pleased with how they are making the weaves I wish they had more colors for some of the complex ones but when she was breaking the sul'dam body the visual of the weaves in her hand looked really intricate. I also loved how when Rand was embracing saidin in there was touches of black which I thought represented the taint. I hope they continue to build on the visual complexity of weaves throughout the show.

[@syntaxed2]

E6 was fuckin awesome - The actors seem to grow by each episode and oh boy did they shine in this one. Frickin hooked!!!

[@theopinson3851]

Yes, she is absolutely KILLING it as Lanfear!

[@Ceej474]

Some of my biggest highlights from this episode: “Ishy dear” Egwene not returning the Sul’dam ‘affinity’/affection after setting the tree on fire and seeing that strange mix of emotions play out between them When Egwene wakes up thinking Rand is there and then doubting her sanity Lanfear belittling and manipulating Liandrin Loial singing Rand and Mat!!! And Mat making light fun of him with his short hair and Dragon Reborn grandeur When Rhyma Sedai calls Nynaeve Sister When Rand pleads with Lanfear for knowledge of Egwene Siuan batting Liandrin away with a comment about frivolity Elayne and Nynaeve holding hands as Rhyma gets captured Very excited for next week !

[@interstellar_1003]

Seriously, the Egwene almost gave me an anxiety attack... one of the best performance ever!

[@trevormartin7740]

The mat and rand reunion almost made me cry it was so great 😂

[@aflameinthevoid8047]

Egwene’s “breaking” was beautifully handled in a way that was emotionally impactful but didn’t seem gratuitous or reveling in pain. It was a pleasure to see one of the most memorable WoT mini-arcs on screen

[@gfr3389]

I haven’t read the books but did Egwene REALLY break? The last look on her face says NO to me. I believe she is faking to bide her time.

[@aflameinthevoid8047]

@@gfr3389 watch and find out 😉

[@Tjalve70]

@@gfr3389I would say that she DID break, to the extent that she accepts that she can never use the pitcher as a weapon. That doesn't mean she's completely broken.

[@katemoon1594]

Even just hearing you describe how Madeleine's performance so clearly illustrated who Egweyne is made me tear up.

[@lanmandragoran8072]

YES! I agree with your review, and we’ll done. I really enjoyed watching you break it down. Good delivery on your part and you hit the energy just right for me.

[@blueeyedcowboy8291]

I felt the exact same way. I am so happy to finally be looking forward to next weeks episode with extreme anticipation. The series is getting better with each episode and I hope it continues. I can't deal with another debacle like the last few episodes of season 1. The actors are killing it this season, and that's how it should be with such amazing characters.

[@strawberrycheesecake5502]

It will never not be funny to me that my mom, who's never been into fantasy or scifi and was always sceptical about me reading it, is absolutely loving the wheel of time- TV series. Start with the fifteen book behemoth, I guess. But really thats testament to how engaging the series is.

[@dwylaw]

I think the kind moment with Moiraine was sorely needed. The toughness was being played up so much up to that point that she was fast becoming my most hated villain.

[@r_r_r_r]

More and more examples of careful attention to detail as the show goes on. The different types of weaving between AS, Seanchan, Forsaken, AND totally different approaches within that?! So good.

[@jasondoughty865]

Welcome to Boston. A couple of useful tips: find a Market Basket for your groceries. Even if you have to travel a little, it will save you a ton of money over time. When you go to the North End for dinner (which it is a given you should do) skip Mike's pastries and go to Bovas on the next street over. Other tips depend on the area you are living in. Feel free you reach out if you want any other tips (I am an Uber Driver so I get around to lots of areas)

[@yremogtnomnad]

Best episode yet by far, the Egwene plot line was done perfectly

[@rachelfallonauthor]

Ohhh welcome home!! 😍😍 Bostons totally the place to be! Haha I’m so glad you’re enjoying the show now! I’ve really loved the whole thing. I read the books after episode 6 of season 1 so my outlook is a bit different I think! Haha but I love both and really think the characters and overall arcs are going to match up really well, even when the exact details are different. The only compliant I would have is I wish they had more time (cough Amazon cough) and more focus on Rand. Because Rand is the best😍 I’m just waiting for his big moment! Haha the build up is killing me.

[@Sus.00077]

When she loses basan and then is collared......talk about breaking my heart.

[@LynneCunningham101010]

Thanks for another great episode review. I appreciate that when you don’t love something from the episode, you offer suggestions of how it could have been done instead to keep true to the book while still working for the changes they’ve done with the show. Too many reviews simply complain without context.

[@remixisthis]

Best episode so far! And I couldn’t stand the first season. I really hope they keep this up! The longer runtime is really helping

[@TheOnokey]

Your chaotic good enthusiasm is a welcomed change of pace!

[@cornellthemoviedude]

I think this season started off a bit rocky, but it’s been mostly been progressing and I’ve been really enjoying it. The only issues I have been having is the editing. Since episode 4, I’ve noticed some BAD editing in some parts, especially with the cuts between actors, and it keeps taking me out. Aside from this though, I’ve still enjoyed this season overall and it’s definitely an improvement over the first ( coming from someone who actually thought the first season was okay).

[@mimsyborogrove6725]

Thank you Daniel! I rushed home from work to watch this when I heard it was up! Really appreciate your channel. It’s become part of my routine watching the wheel of time episode and then watching your KZbin channel after haha! Thank you so much I think you are incredible xo

[@JMoondog15]

Easily the best episode in this entire series! This is Wheel of Time. They captured the emotion, the gravitas and the heart of what these books are. Give me more!

[@firstlast-oo1he]

And to think we gotta wait another week -_- This show is getting amazingly good, to me, as a book reader/ enjoyer. Fingers crossed it keeps it up!

[@desertcomber5108]

Love your reviews Daniel! I am SUPER amazed you did not refer to the one line Egwene drops, to which I had man tears run down my cheeks with, and stood up to clap for- “No woman can have power with a collar around her neck.” As we know, this is the driving force for her character to do SOOO much later on… and this line sets it up beautifully!

[@meprivate6923]

I don't know if she's a Dark Friend. I think Min was forced to do a thing. Also, they need more episodes per season.

[@B-the-the-fpv-guy]

Today I decided to sub. I have watched your content since before the TV series. I enjoy your positive energy and that you keep things ABOUT THE BOOKS. You have a real passion and I look forward to a few years of WOT show reviews. Best wishes and thank you for the content you make! 😊

[@milodebruin4821]

I think you missed a yellow teaching Nyneave how to channel where a red failed.

[@esterzach]

Oh, that's an interesting observation...

[@r_r_r_r]

Daniel, really appreciate you leaning more and more into critiquing the show-great, good, bad, whatever-more so than the book comparison focus. This was a super thoughtful deep dive, more of this please! ❤💯🎉

[@john_frankford7450]

I haven’t started watching season 2 since season 1 was pretty disappointing overall. However this review here convinced me to give it a shot, I really wanna see that egwene performance