"It is Morally Wrong to Eat Someone's Pet" | Spectrum Street Epistemology

Donald Trump claimed during the 2024 presidential debate with Kamala Harris that migrants are "eating people's pets." Luckily for you, this Spectrum Street Epistemology episode explores whether it is morally wrong to eat someone's pet.
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[@thecatfarm]

Since when do people have a universal right to have their basic needs met? Who grants this right? Who is responsible for providing? Why does the universe keep denying people this right?

[@FAQU2]

@@thecatfarm I decided to take action and respectfully request, in writing my very own basic human rights card (my request was quite extensive as I included everything from free healthcare to housing) but it hadn’t arrived 😅 The universe doesn’t seem to have an address or formal application process but I’m holding out hope. All these people can’t be wrong? However, when my basic human rights debit card arrives perhaps I can stop working? With the extra time I have I could glue myself to a floor for some cause, sit on a highway and hold up traffic, or destroy some priceless artwork with paint (purchased w/my universal rights card) or do something equally amazing like go back to school for basket weaving 🤩I hope it’s not like the white privilege card? I’m 10% white and I am still waiting on that one. Does anyone know if the white privilege card might come with a minimum net worth? Oh, I’m silly! That will all get worked out once the basic human rights card arrives 😅 I will let you know if they send a denial letter or just leave me hanging.

[@Crackpot_Astronaut]

Often it comes down to them functioning of a harm principle, but they still aren't able to back it up when you run the entire tape through logically

[@TheGreenHeartofItaly-fl3wv]

Exactly. Rights are won and held, not granted. The notion you can have any rights without fighting for them is entitlement. But really, entitlement (as in God given rights) is just shifting the burden of an individuals fight for some right or another on to some arm of government, which may do the actual fighting involved for you.

[@MiddleAgedPlumber]

Rights are all in the mind. Brought into reality through force. People claiming I have this right I need that right, don't even understand that. You don't have any rights, that someone else isn't enforcing for you. A right to have basic needs met, would require a authoritarian, all powerful state to enforce that right. Rights are meaningless without real world force, enforcing them. This talk, the way people speak about things like Rights, are entirely emotional rambling. It's female thinking, feminine logic. Everybody is using how they FEEL to form their worldviews, and that's why they are incapable of having discussions nowadays. They don't have any reasons for what they think, they just believe whatever makes them feel good, disregarded any info that could dissuade them because it makes them feel bad.

[@michaelgrunden5011]

I just clicked on comments to make this same statement! 😂😂😂

[@TheKatieLea]

Considering how encouraged shoplifting seems to be over here, there's literally no justification for eating someone else's pet

[@ljb8157]

Yup! I said the same thing! In blue states you can steal up to $999 until your hearts content without repercussion from police. Why kill people pets?

[@KenAttenborough-d6y]

Oh, that's hilarious. I'm so glad I read the comments now.

[@jasonexperience8970]

so true

[@Wdavidmetzger]

The best illustration of why NOT see a "mental health professional."

[@ljb8157]

100%

[@Tintdee]

Many of them are just as messed up as their clients.

[@enekaitzteixeira7010]

100% wrong comment.

[@jasper_of_puppets]

Having a child bride is also a matter of cultural programming. That doesn't mean it's OK.

[@kenhiett5266]

These moral questions are subject to narrative and consensus. You have no foundation to base that objective claim.

[@kenhiett5266]

These moral questions are subject to narrative and consensus. There is no foundation to make objective claims about right or wrong.

[@kenhiett5266]

Morality is subject to narrative and consensus.

[@DaBentoBox]

I think there is a pretty big difference between marrying and potentially having sex with a child versus eating a domesticated animal. Personally.

[@jasper_of_puppets]

@@DaBentoBox I bet you do, cat eater!

[@juliotamayo413]

This video shows one thing, why NY is going to hell right now. None of them gave the right answer: because in our society is wrong to eat somebody's pets and since they are here, they have to respect our societal conventions or leave.

[@Dehmigaahd]

Of course, if you constrain the realm of possible answers, you can both be certain and confident. I don’t agree with many of the proposals in the video but the range of thought, exemplifying just a sliver of the expanse of human reasoning and morality, is just as representative of our species as the single perspective you provide.

[@mil3k]

You are right. They should buy them before eating. 😆😄🤣😁😂

[@Dehmigaahd]

@@mil3k spoken like a prostitute enjoyer 🤣

[@malirk]

Your answer to why something is right or wrong is that society dictates right and wrong? Your view has lead to some really horrible governments...

[@juliotamayo413]

@@malirk OK, I'll buy your idea. How else should be determined?

[@wetlazer2443]

The questions were so bonkers and uncomfortable. This is one of my favorites. - @Peter and the team.

[@benjistorment1655]

I lived in the Dominican Republic. For a few years. (Shared island with Haiti) I had many Dominican friends, and it was no secret that Haitian immigrants would eat the feral cats and street dogs. (Of which there was a plethora) This was common knowledge.

[@AnAn___]

This is really true? Is it happening in Ohio?

[@DeePal072]

​@@AnAn___ I don't know, but I've met Dominicans too, and they told me the same thing. BTW, given the current situation in Haiti,are you seriously surprised or shocked?

[@AmberSoleil1]

The US government is giving them money for food making it morally wrong to choose to eat people’s pets

[@airman122469]

@@AnAn___cats for sure are eaten by Haitians. It’s a delicacy. Wasn’t sure on the dogs. But I believe that. Haitians are in a really bad situation right now.

[@cp1cupcake]

They should send the Haitian to Turkey where the government would probably to pay them to eat dogs.

[@CrudelyMade]

here's a question for peter: from a store owners perspective, would they rather lose the profit of a loaf of bread, or lose their pet? seems rather obvious in this case, doesn't it?

[@MattAngiono]

Yeah, it was kind of a dumb question, but I'm assuming he is just improvising.

[@MeandDexter]

But would the store owner rather lose the pet or 15,000 loaves of bread because it’s never one item that is taken. And you’re assuming that it’s the store owners pet that is being taken. Maybe the store owner doesn’t have any pets but the store owner has food that they sell to pay for their livelihood. Do you know grocery stores only make approximately 3% profit margin?

[@jtmmmm27]

Crazy how this is even a debate.

[@cp1cupcake]

It isn't meant to be. It is to get people to express their beliefs to others to try and get people to understand what others (and themselves) believe.

[@bruble14]

​@@cp1cupcakeno, like in society lol. This person I believe isn't referring to the video itself.

[@schmassbinder]

You probably eat cows and chickens and pigs hypocrite piece of shit.

[@suzykendallosborne]

To be fair, a Haitian was caught hunting park geese in Ohio. And a woman who was on some kind of substances was caught eating a cat in a public housing project. But she wasn’t Haitian. So two stories got mixed up.

[@jtmmmm27]

@@bruble14 Correct, this is an obvious attempt to erode peoples basic morality by tagging the "do you agree with immigration" filter then if you do somehow you must agree to some extent eating pets.

[@egioch]

A pet is a member of the family.

[@FAQU2]

Right! Our goldfish goes everywhere with us!

[@TheHogfatherInvades]

​@@FAQU2I bet you tap on the glass.

[@AnAn___]

Agree. Pets are family.

[@FAQU2]

@@TheHogfatherInvades Our veterinarian is very anti-glass tapping. Of course we know their “whittle fish ears” just can’t handle any concussive activity. We do let little Barack & Ruth lick the glass as much as they want to show them “love”.

[@willmercury]

​@@FAQU2 Grow up.

[@johngalt6525]

"Universal right" 😮 the universe owes you nothing .

[@quantum_ocean]

But we pretend there are unalienable rights as a social construct.

[@Wind_Falcon]

@@quantum_ocean It's not pretending. We can easily observe a direct net positive effect when societies adopt human rights. To pretend means to make belief. Meaning there to be no difference either way in reality regardless. That's not the case with human rights.

[@Alex.Holland]

@@quantum_ocean Unalienable rights are a real thing, both conceptually and observably. The tricky part is keeping others from infringing on them, which is the part that needs a social pact.

[@roni1384]

I strongly agree! In a capitalist society, stealing other people's property is ALWAYS wrong, I don't care how hungry the person is.

[@Jurjen_Warrel_Ottenhoff]

It's easy to say people have a right, but what does that right mean? Assuming all rights are the same let's compare some. The 1st aka free speech. You are free to eat, but if you eat the wrong thing there could be consequences. The 2nd aka the one about arms. You have the right to food, but only approved foods and there is no obligation for anyone to supply you with food. So, the right to food means being free to eat whatever you can legally obtain?

[@joer9276]

There is no universal right to have your basic needs met!

[@ljb8157]

Exactly. The entitlement is insane. We're paying their way anyway! Why kill our pets? Just to rub salt in the wound?

[@nathnullobject]

It is a somewhat harsh reality but just because you are born doesn't mean you have a right to survive.

[@Hidalgoes]

If a pre embryonic human entity is conceived does it have a right to be born ?

[@whatthefrerejacques]

If you are hungry and you have no money it is still wrong to steal anyone's property.

[@KrwiomoczBogurodzicy]

“The problem is that humans have victimized animals to such a degree that they aren’t even considered victims.” - Gary Yourofsky “Because we have viewed other animals through the myopic lens of our self-importance, we have misperceived who and what they are. Because we have repeated our ignorance, one to the other, we have mistaken it for knowledge.” - Tom Regan “Veganism is an act of nonviolent defiance. It is our statement that we reject the notion that animals are things and that we regard sentient nonhumans as moral persons with the fundamental moral right not to be treated as the property or resources of humans.” - Gary Francione

[@philosophyze]

They are welcome to eat their pets in Haiti but they aren't in Haiti so they are violating the culture of the people and country they have been invited in as a guest. It's not OK to walk into a host's house and abuse their kindness. We have the right to treat them by our laws and norms like they have if we were in Haiti. Cows, sheep, and goats might be as friendly and social as domesticated cats and dogs but the circle if life is real. And without the existance of a greater authority there is no ultimate basis for morality (including murder). All morality requires an appeal to authority. People confuse morality with ethics which is situational, cultural, and ultimately arbitrary.

[@AnAn___]

Eating pets is wrong. Will the police prosecute them?

[@ashleighellison9509]

There are cultures of people in Africa that take things that are in possession of someone else and it's not perceived as stealing. They can walk into anothers home, take a glass vase and put it in their home before someone else takes it a day later. It's part of their culture that we in the west do not share common ground with. I'm convinced this is why black American are so blasé about stealing, especially from each other. I believed it's deeply embedded in who they are, and just as we in the west are descendents of Plato, Socrates, Descarte, Aristotle, Democritus and Nietzsche........who are these blacks descended from that gives them an underpinning?

[@souxcasa]

They don't eat pets in Haiti, nobody eats pets that's what makes them pets. They eat stray dogs and cats. There are pet ownership laws in America so not only is it an ethical or moral issue it is also a legal issue in terms of ownership. Somebody else's animal is not your animal whether you believe they should be eaten or not

[@bengreen171]

@@AnAn___ They don't need to prosecute them because they aren't eating pets. It's a made up story designed to get people like you to hate them and strengthen your prejudices against them.

[@knittin4u]

Nobody is eating cats or dogs in Ohio. City officials have repeatedly said it isn’t true.

[@mowgli2071]

"They're not doing it and if they are doing it it's okay for them to do it"

[@sdrc92126]

You can live 60 days without food. We're not at the point yet where you could not start a go fund me campaign at the library and raise enough money for lunch

[@siennad587]

It’s against the law too!

[@TexasGrandma2010]

@@mowgli2071 not in here it isn’t

[@mowgli2071]

@@TexasGrandma2010 That's why the sentence is in quotes. You will see this logic from the left, repeatedly. It's also a very good example of sophistry

[@VestinVestin]

​@@mowgli2071 If you say "You've broken my teapot after borrowing it!" and I respond "First of all, I didn't break your teapot. Also, you know how careful I am with literally everything, so even if I did borrow you teapot, I wouldn't have broken it.", how would that be sophistry? Now, "kettle logic" involves contradictions. With no contradictions, I'd rather call this "defense in depth". You can't be mad at someone for addressing contingencies any more than you can be mad at a guy you want to shoot for wearing a bulletproof vest. If you think "OK, it isn't happening, but it would be wrong if it did", then argue that. If you think it is happening and it is wrong, start from the ethical argument and present the facts after consensus is reached. You can't just tell someone "Either you believe it isn't happening or that it wouldn't be wrong, but you can't have both!"; you'll sound like a nutbag!

[@wjspade]

This was a great discussion. I love this format.

[@KEW1945]

In their country it's their choice, but in the US where they are now, It's not only mortally wrong, it's illegal. US states have animal cruelty prevention and animal theft Laws.

[@WilliamHalverd]

If you move to a new country, you need adapt the culture and laws, not forcing yours to it

[@kurtaquino2]

@@WilliamHalverd Cultures change organically by conquest. It can be done at the point of a sword or by outbreeding the resident population. Either can be repelled by many different methods.

[@Crimsonwhocares]

Good thing this whole story is bogus.

[@Anne_Onymous]

I'm sure that will change soon

[@authenticallysuperficial9874]

It may be illegal, but that is independent of the question of whether it is moral. And if it were immoral, then you can't claim it's their choice in their home country.

[@o0GaSMaN0o]

Pets are family. The 2nd Amendment is to protect family.

[@gagestandingready1472]

Take it easy fella.

[@BigDaddyDru]

@@gagestandingready1472quit being a synonym for cat I can’t say in YT.

[@gagestandingready1472]

@@BigDaddyDru what does that mean?

[@BigDaddyDru]

@@gagestandingready1472 google what a synonym is. I’m surprised that someone who watches Peter’s work doesn’t know what that is. Stop being a pu$$y.

[@BigDaddyDru]

@@gagestandingready1472 stop being a pu$sy. This censorship stuff is getting old.

[@samyouel4596]

i watched a doco of a guy lost in the amazon with his dog. He ended up eating his own dog. I couldnt believe someone would do that.

[@davidpaul9961]

Peters out here asking the real questions.

[@kyrene94]

It is completely wrong to eat something that belongs to someone else. You couldn't kill some farmer's cow and take it for food so why could you take their cat or dog? It's all nonsense. It is stealing and wrong

[@Rocknrolldaddy81-xy8ur]

My God. If our future is decided by college educated people, we are doomed.

[@enekaitzteixeira7010]

Ironic comment.

[@shepardthinks]

I am scared by the thinking of the people with whom you were speaking, thank goodness I have lived a good life and don't mind bowing out soon.

[@Juliezemla]

This was so much fun; thanks, Peter!

[@estebanmiguel6019]

“Every person has human rights to have their basic needs met”. She unwittingly channeled Marx.

[@TexasGrandma2010]

@@estebanmiguel6019 since when do people have that right

[@estebanmiguel6019]

@@TexasGrandma2010 Karl Marx thought so. Kamala Harris and all democratic socialists still think so.

[@authenticallysuperficial9874]

​@TexasGrandma2010 Try taking a walk in a forest and having your needs met. You can't. "The right to have your needs met" means the right to violently force others to serve you.

[@estebanmiguel6019]

@@authenticallysuperficial9874 Exactly. Communist ideology runs deep in the “land of free and home of the brave”.

[@Bufekana]

​@@authenticallysuperficial9874 can you explain more, please? i dont get it🤔

[@mattcavanaugh6082]

If you eat my pet, you'll be full. Of buckshot.

[@Dismal-future]

It is illegal to eat cats ,dogs and horses in the US.

[@mb123456789mb]

It only ever has been Confusionism infused with incoherence. The intricate tapestry of ideas, once celebrated as intellectual discourse, has unraveled into a chaotic mélange where clarity is sacrificed at the altar of obfuscation. Each assertion becomes a riddle wrapped in a paradox, rendering genuine dialogue nearly impossible. Chomsky articulated the lunacy of Foucault and his ilk nearly 40 years ago, dissecting the philosophical acrobatics that often masquerade as profound insight. He highlighted how their theories, while ostensibly enlightening, often devolved into verbal labyrinths that bewilder rather than illuminate. This intellectual trend has spiraled into a broader cultural phenomenon, where complexity is revered over coherence, and jargon reigns supreme. As we traverse this landscape, it becomes clear that what was once a quest for knowledge has morphed into a performance of erudition, where the goal is not understanding but rather the appearance of depth. The result? A cacophony of voices, each drowning out the other, as true understanding slips further away. In this milieu, confusion is not just prevalent; it’s celebrated, leaving us to ponder: is this really the pinnacle of modern thought, or simply a labyrinth of our own making?

[@VictimPoliticized]

This is fun. You found some compelling participants.

[@TheMediaMakerYT]

I can't believe they have such a hard time thinking critically that Peter has to dumb down the question for them to understand and agree that eating other people's pets is wrong.

[@KrwiomoczBogurodzicy]

“The problem is that humans have victimized animals to such a degree that they aren’t even considered victims.” - Gary Yourofsky “Because we have viewed other animals through the myopic lens of our self-importance, we have misperceived who and what they are. Because we have repeated our ignorance, one to the other, we have mistaken it for knowledge.” - Tom Regan “Veganism is an act of nonviolent defiance. It is our statement that we reject the notion that animals are things and that we regard sentient nonhumans as moral persons with the fundamental moral right not to be treated as the property or resources of humans.” - Gary Francione

[@squeedum4893]

“Wrong” is not the same as “f*cked up”

[@John-kj7tv]

"people have a universal right to have their needs met". Mmm.

[@John-kj7tv]

That sounds like some commie gobbledegook to me.

[@estebanmiguel6019]

Exactly. Channeling Marx maybe. So she must believe that people have the right to other peoples stuff. Too bad that one slipped by Peter.

[@societopathyobserved9785]

Humans have an actual need for intimacy. And mine has gone sorely neglected. Who is she gonna force to take care of me? It’s my right after all.

[@evancolby2274]

@@estebanmiguel6019 Channeling Marx? This is a pretty independently derivable ethical principle.

[@rigavitch]

Peter, you are wonderful and wise!

[@andreabell5724]

I always end up thinking at some point what a totally incredible experience it would’ve been to have you as a teacher. Lucky for us, we all get you 🙏🙌🖖

[@johnnycombs6570]

I'd really enjoy partaking in this kind of format... Big Up Peter.

[@whatthefrerejacques]

Can you imagine living with a moral framework this murky? Stand for something or fall for anything.

[@moonpie2637]

Once again Trump sets the conversation topic while the "MSM" laughs themselves into irrelevancy.

[@henryburton6529]

Laughs at Trump for obviously lying in the debate - not exactly an irrelevant pointy

[@moonpie2637]

@henryburton6529 I don't think you see the bigger picture. You now have a community that had its population grow by 25% over night with people of a complete different culture. That's in the ears and minds of people all over America now. The reason the progressives constantly find themselves fooled is because they are incapable of full spectrum views. Guess that's why the average progressive voter is a single issue voter. The democrats argument is seen as for more immigration and the conservatives is for less whether the left likes it or not. With people struggling and government support limited and immigration being second issue only to the economy, who do you think the voters going to side with. It's all about the economy stupid

[@davidasher22]

“If you’re hungry it’s better to steal from a store than eat somebody’s pet. “. That seems like a pretty cut and dry yes.

[@mowgli2071]

1:43 his guess was correct and she said it was incorrect. "Food preferences are a matter of cultural programming" is the same as saying "why are cats different from eating other animals?"

[@TexasGrandma2010]

And if you move to another culture, don’t bring your unacceptable practices to that country.

[@jswets5007]

​@@TexasGrandma2010 And if you do bring them, that culture judges you in its way. 👍

[@TexasGrandma2010]

@@jswets5007 this happened when Hmong came to Mn. In their culture it was ok to eat dogs. When people in Mn found out about it, they were upset. Many Hmong were catholic then and a priest went to their community and told them that was not acceptable in America and they stopped doing it. Let’s see how this gets handled now.

[@machtnichtsseimann]

@@TexasGrandma2010 - So, then, Walt was right in "Gran Torino" when telling Sue to stay away from his dog.

[@TexasGrandma2010]

@@machtnichtsseimann Gran Torino is not a movie I’ve seen. I’m not in their demographics '.

[@lasshrugged]

I think it is morally wrong to eat something that belongs to someone else without permission, but I don't think it is necessarily morally wrong to eat a cat.

[@xexxe]

I concur

[@justinmalinowski]

Oh dear. The sweet innocence/naiveté of the NYC art-scene peeps.

[@raziswickid]

These guys look extremely wealthy.

[@authenticallysuperficial9874]

I doubt they know hunger

[@BigDaddyDru]

@@raziswickid champagne socialists

[@Bradley9967]

Why because they don't eat cats?

[@cp1cupcake]

I had a funny feeling this was at some kinda black tie event like a wedding. Although I admit black tie where I currently like is probably a lot different clothing than New York.

[@elproject3343]

And??? The problem is not being wealthy the issue is to approach multiculturalism as a utopian type is society without accounting for the culture diversity. Which even poor people can be guilty of doing it.

[@Iamjamessmith1]

Make the question personal such as it is wrong to eat my pet if you are hungry and have no money.

[@gregshell8570]

Is it ok to rob and overtake a small store because someone came to a nation with no way to feed themselves?

[@oleandra3759]

@@gregshell8570no, it’s not, but it sounds like you’re trying to counter the OP but I don’t see how it’s a counter

[@mikepaulus4766]

If you're running a grocery store and you have insurance that covers shrinkage, if you regularly put in claims for your losses to shoplifting you're not going to have insurance for very long. Your store has to self insure most of the time. If there's a mass raid you can submit that to insurance, they might drop you over it. There is now evidence that your store is located in a place where mass raids happen.

[@siennad587]

It’s illegal to eat those animals in this country! It’s a felony! Not only is it illegal but morally wrong!

[@TheBerkeleyBeauty]

You should watch his upload on morality.

[@MattAngiono]

But it's fine to do it to more intelligent sentient beings? I realize you didn't say that, but why would we object to one species and not another? What's the qualifying factor as to what makes it moral to eat something?

[@TheBatateiro]

Imagine telling people what they should and shouldn't eat. As long as raised humanely for that purpose it's fine, they are made of meat lots of nutritions

[@MattAngiono]

@@TheBatateiro the vast majority of products available are not raised in any way an average person would consider humane. Just because it has a picture of a happy animal on the packaging doesn't mean the animal was in any way treated with dignity. What you find when you dig a little deeper is that most people are paying for animal cruelty regularly, and when it really comes down to it, taking a life of an animal that doesn't want to die is never humane. Acting like it is is just a semantic game

[@rahendriks1]

This exercise also misses a key factor. We are in the USA and there is no rational need to steal or eat someone's pet. The government and charities provide both food and housing. There is literally no starvation for anyone in the US if they are not mentally handicapped and simply seek assistance. So in the US, without question, it is both illegal and morally abhorrent to eat someone's pet. This also brings up bringing in people to the US or other countries that don't agree to our laws and ethics. It's a disaster. It goes against the melting pot reason for embracing immigration to better your country.

[@knittin4u]

I hope the tall girl’s SO sees this and realizes it better never come down to him or the cat being eaten. 😂

[@lzzrdgrrl7379]

Asking for a friend that's involved in several TNR programs: Is the only time we care about unowned and feral cats and dogs is when someone tries to eat them?.......

[@MattAngiono]

Great point! Most people are just rationalizing when it comes to animals that aren't pets

[@jimmydonutz6213]

One of your funniest battles to date 😂😂

[@patricko9129]

Wow this is the best one

[@JefferyHunt]

The difference between men and women. The women’s mind went to the issue underlying the statement and his mind went to the statement itself.

[@emilymiller1853]

That's called "girl scramble" the inability to that the words as they are...

[@inreallife21]

True, the man is more literal. I’m a woman on the spectrum (ASD) and I understood the question in the same way as the man here.

[@DeePal072]

That escalated quickly.

[@EEdi-ob2ze]

Sorry, love. There is no such thing as a universal right to have your basic needs met.

[@justinsims655]

This is a valid opinion to have, but it really amounts to saying that you don't believe in rights at all. For example, a "right to life" entails a right to minimally life-sustaining resources.

[@PuddilyOops]

Is there Nothing else to eat? No apples to pick? No food bank to go to? And PS it’s a lil scary how the minute there is nothing to eat it escalated to eating cats, ferrets and right to human remains 😂 If you’re on a dessert island there’s gonna be fish! Wtf?

[@YigalWeinstein]

All three of them appear to have an incredibly unrefined ethics.

[@2bittesla]

The simple answer to all of this conundrum is simple. The hunting of animals for sport or consumption is regulated by laws and doing so without proper licence is poaching. It is illegal and subject to fines and legal prosecution. Basically, you need a hunting licence. Hunting licenses are not issued for cats and dogs sooooo....strait to jail.

[@MortRouge]

In the first world, where food is grown and farmed a plenty, and there is a sound currency exchange system in place, there is no reason to steal another person's pet for consumption, or for superstitious beliefs.

[@arbhall7572]

Ill tell you its a good way to find out how to get on my bad side. We watch John Wick in my family.

[@MrMasterKaio]

"It is wrong to judge [insert group name] for [action]" I feel like that would always be a strongly disagree from me. It's never wrong to judge somebody, because you can judge their actions both positively and negatively.

[@AndyFromBeaverton]

If you see no difference between the headhunting Jivaros and Buddhist cultures then you are not a serious person.

[@evansjessicae]

"Tripod cat" 😂

[@madhusudan]

Our country, our community, we set the standards, foreigners must either abide by them or leave.

[@johnbatson8779]

Was in Namibia this summer and saw the locals eat a cat. They are protein starved and should not be judged

[@gillmsnfillman1691]

Sure you did buddy!

[@dustinroberson1865]

A pet is irreplaceable where as the things at the business are replaceable. Both are obviously wrong.

[@excalibro8365]

It's wrong because taking someone else's property without their permission violates property rights. If you are not stealing or violating someone else's rights then you should be able to eat cockroaches, tree barks or whatever you want. I'd prefer a nice roasted chicken but hey you do you man.

[@tomnash7382]

A rule of thumb is, not to eat animals that eat animals.

[@MattAngiono]

@@tomnash7382 a better rule is to just not eat animals at all

[@Didleeios88]

Don't eat animals that don't belong to you.

[@Didleeios88]

This means no chicken or fish

[@littlesaffron]

Why?

[@Didleeios88]

@@littlesaffron I imagine it's something to do with disease. The higher up the food chain the more likely they ate a diseased bird or rodent.

[@KLForbes]

"I don't think I would be able to (eat my SO)" - most honest answer ever.

[@gagewesterhouse9558]

The short woman is purely driven by emotion. She's all over the board based on her initial emotional response.

[@elliotthyde5623]

I’m astonished this is even a question. What a world we live in.

[@C00K13M0N5TA13]

There is no universal right to have your needs met. Yikes.

[@pandaloon6083]

Cats (pets) have potential and actual emotional value to human beings. Eating cats annihilates that value. Superior nutritional value can be found elsewhere without that annihilation. Additionally, eating cats means we, as human beings, aren't living up to a potential/capacity for love. When we are hungry we could be acting out of our stomachs. When we don't eat cats we are chosing to act out our stomachs and our hearts.

[@kevin-g1w]

The shorter girl desperately doesn't want to offend anyone. It must be difficult for her to make decisions.

[@marywolfington2616]

My cat got up and turned her back on me while I watched this.

[@graceb3934]

I don't see how it is in anyway melodramatic to say that pets are a part of the family. Many people would be completely alone if it werent for their pet/s, and stealing / killing / eating anyones pet is morally wrong.

[@inreallife21]

Agree. Plus, and I’ve seen this first hand, companion animals can also be a protective factor for people who are depressed with suicidal ideation.

[@graceb3934]

​@inreallife21 absolutely. I went through a period of time when the only (safe) relationship I had, was with my cat. My life is much better now, but she is still my best friend, and has helped me through so much...but had she been taken from me in those darkest times, I am not sure I could have recovered from that.

[@justinmalinowski]

People DO NOT have a universal right to be fed, as it would necessitate an infringement on other peoples' property rights.

[@AnthonyL0401]

Proving that the more woke woman with dark hair views morality relatively

[@expojah]

TRIPOD CAT!!! 🤣

[@-----GOD-----]

Peter, why did I just watch this? That's the real question.

[@AnAn___]

In 1947, the greater Indian subcontinent had 600 royal families. Among the nonmuslim royal families, half were what the British designated as "low caste". In the 1700s, 1800s and 1900s much (or a majority) of the Indian royalty, rich, business class, financial class were what the British designated as "low caste". The Indian subcontinent's greatest sociologist (M. N. Srinivas ) who did more ethnographic research on ethnic groups in greater India than anyone else found that there was a high degree of caste mobility and fluidity. He termed the process of caste switching as "Sanskritisation" and wrote a lot about it.

[@daveboon5992]

The INDIANS MADE AND CONTINUE THE CAST SYSTEMS NOT THE BRITISH !! THEY HAVE THEIR OWN CLASS SYTEMS NOT BASED ON RELIGION !!!

[@AnAn___]

@@daveboon5992 Are you referring to "Jati"?

[@eliteelitebob]

I expected this comment section to be more skeptical of the claim that Haitians are eating pet cats in Springfield.

[@CassandraJay]

Not just Springfield.

[@oleandra3759]

It’s sick to eat cats and dogs. It’s completely sick. Saying it’s wrong to eat someone’s pet doesn’t do it justice. Cat or dog shouldn’t be vulnerable to being eaten by a human being, if it’s a stray. I don’t give a rats ass, no pun intended, if culturally, it doesn’t make logical sense that we eat pigs and cows and chickens, and we don’t eat cats and dogs period cats and dogs in the western society has become companion animals period. If I went to India, I would cease eating beef out of respect for their culture. Cats and dogs are considered to be family members. What if the cat or dog is lost? This is fucking mental. There are cannibalistic tribes. Is it okay if they come here and eat people? What if the person is homeless or doesn’t have a family. I guess that’s fair game.

[@anthonybehrman6978]

Beyond the animal cruelty, a pet is an extension of a family. If you’re going to immigrate to another country, it is only acceptable to acclimate to the laws and social norms. There is a reason they immigrated, so assimilate 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@HoodiesOnlyClub]

This makes me glad to be a blue collar worker who lives in a blue collar community.

[@shawnwillis7561]

I love her reaction at the end

[@Immortal_0715]

It's funny how blind and un-aware some people are.

[@AnAn___]

India is the world's 2nd largest exporter of beef in the world. Beef is widely available in India in practice, even in cities where beef is legally prohibited. India is a massive beef consumer. In large Indian states most locals eat beef. In some places Bull meet is legally allowed while Cow meet is not. However, in practice Cow meet is generally available in these places.

[@AnAn___]

In India every year about 4 million cows are stolen from their families and killed. For the families that own them, cows are like pets and family members. It is sad to hear that this might happen in Ohio too.

[@BirdDogey1]

I had landscapers who stole my pet rabbit (black/white bunny). I presume they ate it and subsequently fired them.

[@tashaax1993xanimalloverx]

Can't believe this can even be a question?? Ofcourse it's fucking wrong! Pet or not!

[@helburr]

What a great use of everyone's time

[@joer9156]

"They have a universal right to have their basic needs met." This is so insane. Nobody has a right to anything that they cannot secure for themselves or convince someone else to secure for them.

[@faismasterx]

How far are you willing to extend that argument? Do infants have a moral right to be taken care of by their parents until they're independent and able to take care of themselves, for example? By your own reasoning they don't have a right to food and water, because they cannot secure it for themselves or convince someone else to secure it for them.

[@Alex.Holland]

@@faismasterx This is just an argument over the definition of the word "right." by the classic liberal definition of the word, there is no such right, regardless of age.

[@faismasterx]

@@Alex.Holland I'm not interested in the definition game. Natural rights, not legal rights. Please don't side track.

[@Alex.Holland]

@@faismasterx I did not mean to sidetrack. I felt like I addressed your question directly. By standard definition of natural rights, the argument OP made is extended all the way. There is no such right, regardless of age.

[@faismasterx]

@@Alex.Holland Ok, so you don't accept the idea of natural rights. Thank you for your input.

[@johngalt6525]

Scared to judge or have principles .

[@iambyteman]

I’m so troubled by this. Killing and eating someone’s pet is psychotic and crazy. Especially in this country where food is cheap and plentiful. It is WAY better to steal from a store or restaurant. Also just ask for help. People will help.

[@andreasplosky8516]

Food is cheap? Where do you live?

[@iambyteman]

@ You can get a $5 McDouble at McDonalds which is a burger, fries, nuggets, and a soda. It’s 990 calories. And you don’t have to kill and eat your neighbor’s cat. Food is more expensive in this country than it was before the pandemic but it’s historically cheap. You know this.

[@andreasplosky8516]

@@iambyteman Ah, unhealthy fast food, not actual food. I heard that is why many Americans have become so horribly rotund and have so many health issues. I thought you were referring to real food. That is why I was surprised, because that is not cheap at all.

[@iambyteman]

@ so kill and eat your neighbor’s cat? What point are you trying to make?

[@andreasplosky8516]

@@iambyteman I was reacting to you saying food is cheap, because it is not. Food is truly expensive, these days. Real food, I mean. I am not a proponent of eating cats. I grew up with cats. I think they are wonderful companions. One does not eat the companions of people.

[@CassandraJay]

Some cultures are better than others: obviously

[@RichardEnglander]

Why do people with moral and cultural relativism not think that others should change rhen they come to your country? I suspect they think they should change when they go to another country...

[@Grotski]

kitties are not food.

[@Nazyairsengikar]

Smart man you know that the real issue; is it ok to eat cats and dogs. And we all know people won't admit to something they know many see as wrong.

[@faustyred]

Oh, you cheeky bastard. I love it!!!

[@consciouscrypto3090]

I have to really wonder if the short woman is kind of dumb. I mean how can you be neutral on just about everything? It's like she can't understand the idea of 'slightly.' She only understands agree/disagree and maybe strongly agree/strongly disagree. Or she lacks self-awareness enough to know which way she leans when things are unclear? I just know the others were never stuck at neutral, nor would I ever be. No matter what, I always can give more weight to some arguments than others, even if I can see both sides having some legitimacy.

[@juanktrumpet10]

Why is this conversation even being had when it has been proven that no pet has been eaten by Haitians?

[@vashmatrix5769]

🤦 She shouldn't assume insurance

[@sdrc92126]

Even if there was insurance, it is still taking away from people's lives through higher premiums

[@jswets5007]

Food stolen from a retail store is called shrinkage. There is no insurance for it. Shrinkage is an expected expense in the retail industry and is generally reflected quarterly in price increases. That is in the stores that can handle the shrinkage without it closing their doors.