It's 2009 And You Receive Martin Fury

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[@Azamous]

Massive thanks to Madseason, Esfand, Guzu & Snackybox for their appearances!

[@Illegalparsley]

Best RP cast ever!

[@Dujiko]

Esfand sounds like Jschlatt lol

[@AtlasTheShiba]

haha love the collab

[@SalopianYoutube]

Best voice actors itw

[@Steven-vt7gv]

who are those guys?

[@FreddyB41]

"Who took all the milk." Ah, classic blizzard.

[@Vanished584]

"You no take milk"

[@shiningbright3743]

lol someone stealing the breast milk from the blizzard fridge. totally forgot about it till he said it

[@EnderGoku9001]

@@shiningbright3743 oof

[@bigbad75_YT]

If you want some milk you have to go to the cosby suite

[@PlantTube.]

The end is definately my favourite part, imagine how mad Leroyspeltz is going to be

[@TE2Bond]

I was pretty pissed....

[@moonaka2]

@@TE2Bond l-....l-....leroy?

[@nerfedreallife]

@@TE2Bond actually you tho?

[@Dumpsack]

@@nerfedreallife …..

[@blummel97]

That madseason at the start, I miss him.. I've watched his pandora's box like 3 times at this point and I thought it was the last I'd ever see of him and his soothing voice.

[@Bleilock1]

Go check put badseasonshow

[@unholyallen9572]

The Return of The King.

[@danchmelar7111]

Teamspeak connection sounds make this 200% better XD

[@tiffles3890]

Wish you could buy Martin Fury in the classic cash shop.

[@tree4104]

dont give them ideas....

[@Rautaneito69]

yup! delete lol

[@tiffles3890]

@@tree4104 What if you could by 10 charges of Martin Fury at twice the cost of the game?

[@apblolol]

Perhaps just an item named "totaly not Martin Fury" and it has flavor text and is purely cosmetic

[@Akaitoism]

@@tiffles3890 diablo immortal leaking into wow design...

[@edluke3415]

I remember when this happened, the guy used it on hard mode yogg sarron and got the world first kill because of the shirt. It was almost instantly known about because of all the top guilds racing to do it at the time got beat out by some weenie that couldn't help himself, and to be completely honest, neither would have I.

[@fluffybacon]

TBF, the weenie may have gotten himself perma banned, but he basically made WoW history with his stupidity. That's worth more than whatever he'd have gained had nobody ever known what happened.

[@seja098]

@@fluffybacon why? How was he suppose to know it was illegal to use an item that was given by the GM? Sounds more like the GM should get banned.

[@fluffybacon]

@@seja098 It literally says "Cheater" in the tooltip text. It's also common sense that if you obtain something that you shouldn't have that you report it rather than abusing it. Abusing something that was unintended is called "exploiting". And why the fuck would a GM get banned for typing the wrong item ID when restoring a player's account? Would you lose your job over a very basic mistake?

[@seja098]

@@fluffybacon Hahaha I am actually laughing at your response.. if you think that it is a basic mistake, then you definitely have drank too much water today.... Regardless of the green text, if your a GM employed to do correct work, and then proceed to give someone a "GM only item" by mistake, then that is the GM's fault, not the acquirer. This logical way of thinking about this, is everywhere in our daily life. So I have no clue what exactly, you spend your time on in, real life. But it certainty isn't improvement or regulations, or rules that should be followed by everyone. Also, the bias for GM's cause their GM's is funny. Their humans, and they can make mistakes. People who play the game, can make mistakes. But this case is too obvious and is one of the reasons why GM's doesn't exist anymore. For this exact reasoning. The player that is involved in the wrong doing of the GM, isn't banned by the way. :). So don't pre-judge to harshly.

[@fluffybacon]

@@seja098 Willfully exploiting somebody else's mistake isn't a mistake, that's a conscious decision; it's exploiting and it's against the rules. Everybody with half a brain cell knew they'd get banned if they abused that item. They didn't even abuse it lightly for a bit of fun, they jumped straight into newly released content whilst people were still racing for world firsts. Stop writing utter fucking garbage and rethink your life.

[@en4135]

The story of Martin Fury really was a great showing of how Blizzard even back then would not own up to even tiny mistakes It all started because a guy named Leroyspeltz got hacked, lost pretty much his entire inventory, and in the process of trying to restore his account (which took around 5 months) he was accidentally given this dev item along with a host of completely random shit, his level 13 warlock received a small amount of gear along with Martin Fury. Since the guy didn't get a full restore of everything he had, he thought it was actually an intentional move by a GM presumedly to help get him back up to where he was, because how the hell would a GM make this level of a mistake? The item also had a limited charge count which might've added to this belief, everybody essentially thought it was a joke by a GM. I imagine a pretty high level of frustration was there as well, it had taken them 5 months to get to his hacked account and when they did they just dumped a bunch of random gear and items of all levels on the guy and called it done. Eventually the guy shared it with a friend of his, Karatechop who I believe had also been hacked at one point and they used it to go clear some raids with a few guild members, Ulduar, Eye of Eternity, and Obsidian Sanctum, around 14 times. This earned them some pretty significant achievements including some world firsts a lot of people didn't really know existed, unbeknownst to them they actually cleared several of the most difficult achievements for those raids using it. Eventually Blizzard found out and temporarily banned THE ENTIRE GUILD for 24 hours, many of the guild members didn't even know what was happening as this was a pretty large guild. Blizzard then banned Karatechop permanently without any real communication, this was his first infraction, they claimed to send him an email explaining why but Karatechop says he never received this, he also tried to open a ticket but also never received a response. For about a month people just assumed Karatechop was a hacker that had somehow obtained the item via nefarious means and Blizzard to my knowledge never actually acknowledged their own mistake. Blizzard more or less tried to hoist the entire responsibility onto Karatechop who wasn't even the original owner of the item. If I remember right Karatechop also stated he wasn't actually the one who had the item by the time they started using it, he was however, the leader of the guild and Blizzard apparently held him responsible for his guilds actions.

[@DontKnow-hr5my]

Glad to know they already were full of shit back then when it came to owning up to mistakes and communicating.

[@90Rush]

IIRC, Karatechop is the one using the item. By that time there was logs about a players max damage in a single hit, and for Karatechop that damage is exactly the same with Flame Leviathan's HP.

[@Thescott16]

Blizzard has only ever cared about optics. In the case of Martin Fury; it was easier for them to call an entire guild cheaters than it was to admit that a GM fucked up. However, even today you can get perma-banned just for being inconvenient because they have it built-in to their "support" system... If you get reported enough then you get an automatic punishment, even if the reports are complete lies and you haven't actually done anything wrong. But on top of that, even if you appeal that punishment and get it overturned; they don't actually remove it from your account's record. It'd be like still having a criminal record even after you were proven innocent. What that means for your account is that if you ever get a punishment, even if you get it removed, the next one you get will be worse... You'll be treated like a repeat offender even if you've never done anything wrong. And it doesn't stop at once or twice; it keeps going until you're on your last strike and then they'll automatically permaban you *for literally nothing,* and you _can't appeal a permanent ban._ I'm speaking from first hand experience, by the way. They did this to me back in 2017.

[@en4135]

@@90Rush Karatechop did use it at some points yes, but it never had anything that prevented him from trading it, you could use it and then trade it. He claimed to have used it a couple of times but the last few it supposedly wasn't in his possession but in the possession of an unnamed guildmate.

[@billymays9296]

I mean let's be real, if you're devoid enough of intelligence to use an item like this to kill actual current content raid bosses, and even get some world firsts/kill bosses that no one else is able to, then you deserve a permanent IP ban. There isn't a single person in the universe who would use this item in current content raids and expect to get away with it, who is also able to peel a banana by themselves.

[@shadowflare6666]

That Skype jebait,sweet summer 2010.

[@Eazy_Bruh]

Its 2022 nobody is getting notifications by Skype lol.... Its amazing though. The detail

[@ieatbadgers]

This is one of the best in-game mess up's in gaming history.

[@Demidar]

That, and the guy that got the Fluourecent mechano strider by accident, he got to keep it tho.

[@ieatbadgers]

@@Demidar He kept it until he tried to sell his account on a bidding website.

[@feralhound23]

check out fally massacre 6/6/6

[@bawsypvp5481]

@@Demidar yep untill he got greedy ! they removed the mount cuz of that

[@edgardocruz4480]

@@feralhound23 what happened?

[@TheMustardisbad]

Still cant believe they banned every single person in the guild that was online at the time. Talk about a knee jerk reaction lol

[@BlondieYouTube]

Nowadays they won't even ban people who sent inappropriate messages to minors in their game.

[@Ultizer]

They won't ban boosters for using scripts in arena/RBG's either.

[@EsfandTV]

Great video dude! Glad it turned out so well!

[@Azamous]

thank you for being part of it Esfand, it means a lot to me

[@HDArtzy]

omg its esfand! lol ur vids are hilarious azz, they bring nostalga and joy to me and i only jist started wow at the beginning of covid

[@n1ck1930]

Hey esfand remember when kehetamine capped bs early on your premade in classic

[@andrechapman540]

Would of been better if we didnt have to hear you in it.

[@jss8295]

shut up

[@jake8200]

the attention to detail is always a pleasure.

[@Snackybox]

Hi mate can I put this voice acting on my cv?

[@Azamous]

yes bro they will give you a very good job

[@hurrdurrimagrunt]

So fuckin' good man. The collabs were not expected at all but most welcome, top tier acting. That skype call was hilarious.

[@alighobadi2975]

It wasnt skype actually. It was Teamspeak

[@McDonnerbogen]

Brother ur prob like super young If you dont know ts from Skype.. Discord kids these days

[@kalwy7331]

@@McDonnerbogen I believe he's talking about the last second call from Leroyspeltz.

[@Conceptzer0]

Lol I would have never imagined these top wow content creators coming together to be in a video of yours when I first started watching, you’ve come a long way and you deserve more attention!

[@shaece798]

Nice pfp

[@Conceptzer0]

@@shaece798 Saitama gang

[@MrMcslammer1]

Ok hear me out on this one. I just read the background to this story and its extremely interesting. I remember this vividly, back when I was playing during this time period 2008/2009 there was this MASSIVE wave of accounts being hacked. Like it happened all at once including to me. It was very odd to me, there was 0 reason I should have been hacked along with like 70% of the guild. I was in college at the time studying cyber security, and I went above and beyond the very basic safe practices to secure my account...like i went to ridiculous lengths, so when this massive wave of stolen accounts was taking place something didn't seem right and this story brings me back. How does a GM accidentally send an item like this? Its interesting that the security tokens came out around the same time all of these accounts were "hacked" and they cost 6 fucking dollars. I remember telling my brother blizzard was probably behind these account hacks to sell and incorporate these new security tokens. After reading this story, along with blizzard selling its soul around the same time as well, Im even more convinced there was fuckery involved

[@Limrasson]

I don't think that's what happened, that's too hard on the conspiracy theory side. What might have had happened was that their internal database got compromised, covered it up and released the authenticator to avoid further incidents.

[@Kn-uq8rt]

I too got hacked back then, no reason it should have happened. I didnt buy any of their crap and my account is still going strong today no hacks since

[@victoro7056]

up for conspiracy

[@truck6280]

@@Limrasson or they sold the accounts, then… hear me out… made the authenticator after spreading fear, to make more money

[@diomes695]

is this defamation, can you prove it?

[@thomas5047]

Dude, your vids have become a core part of my classic experience, thanks a ton for the great content, keep it up!

[@koka5002]

that loading screen hits different

[@jackedattack8781]

Such a great story. I was only a few months into wow around the time this happened. Glad to see you cover it!!!

[@digitalemotion3820]

Nicee

[@daroachdoggjr188]

The entire guild getting banned is somewhat true, all players got a 72 hour suspension until the investigation concluded if my memory serves me correctly.

[@Unchainedful]

Except the players that were actually involved in the raid. Their accounts weren’t exactly banned, but were reverted to a much lower level. Funny thing is, the new lower levels of the guild took over as leader of the guild, lol.

[@daroachdoggjr188]

@@Unchainedful oh yeah most definitely, I didn’t mention that no offense because I figured it would be automatically inferred given they cheated with a GM item.

[@bakedstreetyt]

that is such bullshit as it is all their fault.

[@daroachdoggjr188]

@@bakedstreetyt it was a very controversial moment for Blizzard lot of finger pointing, i got a buddy who was in the guild when it all went down.

[@fanadejet]

Epic video! You've made that reconstitution so perfectly. That's amazing to see how insane was that case ! Think karatechop must has felt like a living god

[@NOTHiNG2CBRA]

That was nice! More of this plx! 🙆🏽‍♀️👌🏾

[@zunuf]

I can't believe how big of deal this was at the time. It should have gone like this: They one shot some bosses, Blizzard finds out, they revert the gear and achievements, everyone has a laugh at how silly video games are sometimes. Instead it a big moral debate. "The item said cheater. They should have contacted Blizzard right away. What he did was wrong. He knew it was wrong." Like he should feel guilt and shame for killing fictional monsters incorrectly in a computer game for teenagers. This is a game where people corpse camp real players and compete to see who can be the most horrible in trade chat, but the real players suffering are the ones who thought someone got an achievement earlier than they were supposed to. It was a GM's mistake and Blizzard's reaction was to ban a whole guild, even people who didn't know about the item.

[@itchydez]

Oof moment.

[@hurrdurrimagrunt]

Probably a true gamer GM or small group having a chuckle seeing what would happen in a video game, until a holier than thou executive heard about it. I doubt the players were the only ones punished for this.

[@user-vr1nd3ep3s]

Hey hey HEY HEEEEEEEEY H E E E E E Y video games are serious business 😡

[@robertling2221]

They were totally in the wrong. It would be a bit different if it had 0 implications, but raid guilds getting a world first is a nice badge of honor. Cheating it cheats those players out of that satisfaction. Is it arbitrary bs? Perhaps, but so is literally anything involved in 99.9999% of people's lives.

[@TE2Bond]

Well said!

[@randomnumbers710]

like, why send us the item, if you didn't want us to use it!?

[@vertix7142]

You are the only KZbinr I watch with interest until the very end. Great vid as always!

[@Popmycherryyo]

its for the "wotlk hype" innit?

[@vertix7142]

@@Popmycherryyo Yeah! This is one of the reasons

[@tipsysmichigander6483]

You must have terrible taste in media content... Pathetic.

[@dthurston87]

Oh man this was epic!!! By far the best video yet!! Great to have some great wow content creators together to tell this story the way it was always meant to be told! Better then Leroy!

[@kb_ken953]

Out of context but just wanted to say thank you for all the awesome videos you make, you really portray what us rogues are like in real life. WOTLUKUH HYPE

[@kevinpadot7545]

Omg! Hearing madseason put me in my feels 😭 I miss him. Great video!

[@L33Tbii]

you are 1 upping yourself every video, great stuff man! I really enjoyed this, imagine this happening a second time, would be so good

[@Benefits]

I was actively raiding Ulduar back when this incident happened during Wrath. I remember some of us in my guild, at the time, pulling up Karatechop's armory page and refreshing it every 30 minutes or so to see all the new pieces of gear he had equipped as the result of killing the bosses so fast. At that time, we didn't know how he obtained Martin Fury, but you could clearly see him wearing it on his armory page. About 18 hours later, the entire raid team was permanently banned from the game lol

[@vidzrswow]

I remember when this was going on too but I remember everyone else only getting temp. Karatechop was the only one that got perma banned could be wrong but I don't think so.

[@Benefits]

@@vidzrswow From what I remember, everyone that participated in the raid was originally permanently banned. Then the raid team members made a post on the official WoW forums about what happened and Blizzard looked into it further. After that, most of the raid team had their permabans reduced to something like 1 or 2 weeks suspensions. But yea, Karatechop kept his perma.

[@MarcRitzMD]

Did really no one take screenshots?

[@Benefits]

@@MarcRitzMD There are screenshots of Karatechop's WoW Armory page from back when this happened if you look hard enough. The people that were doing the exploit obviously wouldn't be sharing screenshots publicly.

[@lukebobb]

The collabs. So awesome

[@gothding]

watt looka hype watt looka hype

[@simunator]

1:29 honestly BE art back then was straight fire

[@oyhchris]

Love it! Amazing video.

[@Kylekashi]

Hahaha this is a great idea for a video. That incident will always be remembered

[@idklol4197]

it would be funny if the guildmaster took the gold too "to keep it safe"

[@lifeisoverated81]

Love the colab !

[@markt6240]

Madseason we miss you!

[@edge6441]

Yep the Martin fury thingie I remember this but blizz was monitoring everything so they couldn't get away with it...nice recreation azamous!

[@SeanPatrickFitness]

Great video azamous love all the wow content creators joining together

[@imafortnutbot5691]

Please bro as a wow player from early 2010 , 09 . Dude never stop making these videos you will blow up ! I’m having just as much fun as watching these vids as playing wow back in the day!

[@stefanh.13]

Amazing - Love your channel

[@valdo1978]

i love so much your movies !!! Thanks a lot

[@ben-taobeneton3945]

Hearing "Team Speak" after all these years brings back nostalgia 👌😂

[@rexnoct5810]

the unexpected Esfand appearance is absolutely hilarious 😂

[@ZJArt]

Omg that was amazing, superb effort with the visuals, and great story telling! Had a good laugh.

[@MrGojirad]

Omg Snackybox's lines are top tier what a grand video

[@Dimzliveofficial]

awesome video man

[@Hooliganzzz]

brooooooooooo these cameos are awesome!

[@aaslandyo9584]

This is so good!

[@Schrogs]

LMAO that leroyspelz calling at the end 😂😂😂 that was freaking hilarious

[@soapdasoap4877]

THX Dude!

[@harryholden795]

god i loved the lil cameos from all my favourite people

[@DDadams0]

I wish I could have been there. This would have been incredible to see.

[@TE2Bond]

I'm curious....which part?

[@darkmessiah1883]

The head popping out of the water lol

[@skay1992]

loved this

[@bedatwayden5660]

Really enoyed this one - one of your best - imo 😄👍

[@bomerang3748]

this was great. shoutout azamous

[@Beedbit]

Leroyspeltz calling at the end XD

[@greg6115]

this gives me 2008 vibes love it

[@abcdef-ey9xv]

Please more of that its amazing :)

[@alien_teetaw]

I was waiting for this

[@supdaishi]

Great video man, the Teamspeak sounds got me good cuz i was in a call with some friends there as well XD. Keep up the nice work mate!

[@lucabalzano136]

You're the wow content maker we need, but the one we don't deserve

[@marrc9962]

Another gold video!

[@TE2Bond]

Ahh, whacky fun! Thanks for bringing back some old memories. Now I have to see if I can get another shirt in classic! ;)

[@lordgasman9099]

holy shit the "user joined your channel" unlocked memories

[@kawaiihaki2480]

my god the power fantasy of having such an item in classic, or even TBC. id be running my rogue through BT to get glaives

[@braceletsbyzoee]

Love the collab

[@guscunnilin]

These videos are really entertaining

[@onetwomany92]

I think I need more colab videos man, these are fucking gold.

[@EricN73158]

ll the big voices, love to hear it!

[@kaptnhartkor8549]

Loved it!

[@Koltiria]

This is a fucking masterpiece

[@7964harry]

Loving the Cameos from other streamers and YTers

[@skaalfort]

I didn't know Guzu was in this until I heard his voice. What a pleasant surprise :D

[@Rockmaster867]

The Teamspeak announcements brought me back!

[@noobofminecr4790]

That was so good bro💪😆

[@TheRubeeRose]

very good - EXCELLENT in fact

[@christophermccutcheon2143]

Wow I hadn't watched you for ages then this video popped up and i was like "wait I don't remember this being a madseason spoof channel?". Cool to see other creators comes play a part :O

[@Kelig]

The Skype box at the end sent a wave of nostalgic joy through me

[@sleepyjonah7590]

I love your videos Lewis!

[@Horwinn]

This is the funniest video I've seen in a long time

[@arthas_scourge]

martin fury hype martin fury hype

[@Foxworkz]

thanks for the video! You should also do a video about corrupted blood incident !

[@double00diablo35]

My Troll rogue for classic was named Karatechop leveled him as sub after watching your sub/ambush leveling guide. Stayed that spec until 52 my favorite way to play rogue.

[@supergameforever143]

I think the final boss is able to alert every GM's attention in thier currently database systems somewhere. Likely The first realm achievements or they havent kill any single of the final boss each on thier servers's reach alert at blizzard peoples.

[@KeganB27]

Blizzard since the game started has a "war room"(imagine the main NASA room you'll see in movies-almost identical) in which a large team of people watch big screens at the front of the room that correspond with current player activity as well as in-game things happening. When raids dropped, they too will monitor what's happening a lot of the time but they don't need to either because they are absolutely notified upon completions of a raid even if it's not world firsts. Guilds would get banned for cheating on raids where the guild had completed it a lot already but because of the raid ID and corresponding boss ID's it's easy for them to see potential cheaters and just review what has happened

[@Nicolas-Sun]

I really hope you can keep collaborating with following creators to develop a guild drama series which could be a sequel to your noob videos.

[@Nobleman1st]

I laughed my ass out on that video it such thing actually happened out there! :D

[@brandoncastellano1858]

MADSEASON!! WE MISS YOU!!

[@liammorrison4284]

The Guzu cameo!

[@johnisdead]

This is amazing

[@Daevus]

Love this content

[@mobgripchamanrogue]

Madseason HYPE

[@Troy19404]

LOL love how Guzu and Esfand is in this 🤣

[@timmaa9]

Just realized Guzu voiced the nightelf rogue. And Esfand was in there. Epic video hahaha

[@its_ntm]

This collab is Damn Good

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Totally worth it.

[@ben1Qk]

Bro this is the best I've seen here