It's Exactly What We Feared

[@masteroak9724]

I mean, the moment they announced it's going to be a f2p mobile game, I was pretty much expecting this or worse.

[@VyncentRemethar]

Does feel like a bit of a shame, doesn’t it?

[@jeremiahtorrevillas4396]

​@@VyncentRemethari mean theres already microtransactions on new mh games why would corpo simps be bothered by it

[@wolfitoh7981]

Literally CoDM exists, they could just monetize some exclusive layered armors. But a fucking gacha, seriously? With the fucking ammount of gacha games that exists already in Mobile market?

[@sanchayande8081]

dont know why but when I saw the quality of the trailer (like lighting and rendering) I was like it will be a mobile game and moved on without even watching the full trailer

[@Zwulf66]

how i say let Capcom work with these kind of studios to make Heavily Monetized games and make bank and then leave the core/main series of games as they currently are mtx'd

[@Jackthat1]

Wait? People thought a phone game wasn’t going to be a gotcha game? Rookie mistake.

[@foofoo3344]

You'd have to be a special level of stupid and/or ignorant to think that a big Japanese corporation like Capcom wouldn't do gacha or microtransaction for a phone game.

[@VyncentRemethar]

Most likely people were hoping it would be just another handheld game like Rise, just on the phone.

[@VyncentRemethar]

I think it’s mostly ppl being surprised because gacha is a monetization model that doesn’t fit all that well with a Monster Hunter game.

[@dragonslayer3552]

​@@VyncentRemethar yes but its a phone game.... The mobile games currently are... Well there is no way to put it more lightly... Absolutely hot predatory garbage

[@imatiu]

@@VyncentRemethar Kinda stupid thinking, no offense meant to anyone, but if it was a handheld game like Rise it would be developed for the Switch with a phone port on top, mobile audiences don't care at all for a game like Monster Hunter, just the control scheme for having to deal with all the different weapons on a touchscreen sounds like way too much trouble to pull off, unless everything was very simplified but we already have the Monster Hunter Go game for that. Anyone not thinking this was going to be a gacha game or something along those lines was either dumb as a box of bricks or delusional as all hell.

[@linkgod401]

The moment I see timi or Tencent you know exactly what’s coming

[@VyncentRemethar]

You speak like you've seen some s***.

[@linkgod401]

@ oh I do man I play their games lmao

[@bintangmaulana9816]

Lots of gacha but i hope they don't do pay to win mechanic

[@raphezar2049]

@@bintangmaulana9816 That is a hefty cope

[@Haseldan]

The moment you said tencent, i already know its gonna be one of "those" games...

[@wensan9923]

1.if I'm gonna be restricted from a hunting marathon on weekends due to energy/stamina system then that's a -999 automatic for me. 2.I am expecting that the monitization would atleast be limited to cosmetics via Unique Armor Overlays/Transmog. 3. I'd rather have a MHGU graphics with smooth FPS rather than an overly rendered one which would burn my phone and is possibly going to have frame drop issues while on a hunt.

[@VyncentRemethar]

All fair points. I do doubt that the monetization will be restricted to cosmetics only though.

[@dra6o0n]

Just play other games at that point, remember that voting with your wallet does send a message, and it's shown in actual articles where the media is pissed at gamers for doing so. This spinoff MH game is meant for China only, and they are hoping that others outside China takes interest.

[@wensan9923]

@dra6o0n 💯👌

[@Ken-zp5qp]

MHGU official mobile port would go so hard like i doubt i would ever delete it from my phone man

[@jaypeadieL611]

Add energy tomissions and time to crafting equipment. Maybe even add a battle pass for cosmetics and monster skins

[@Geym1account]

The fuck? This better not be true, crafting the strongest weapons after repeatedly hunting monster is one of the best things in MH!!

[@VyncentRemethar]

Welcome to the first stage of grief: Denial. I've been here before. Allow me to be your guide.

[@alenezi989a3]

Here's a hint, if you don't like gacha and over monetization don't play mobile games. Don't download a mobile game then act surprised it's full of shit.

[@renookami4651]

@@VyncentRemethar Depends on the game. Look at GranblueFantasy, you can pull banner weapons to unlock characters, but the best weapons are only avaiable throught farming. It is still possible to design a gacha game with pulled weapons only serving as a stepping stone for he impatient players, then to be switched as a skin once you get your final weapon. Honestly I wish more games would do that instead of P2W pulls, because you get both the feeling of accomplishment for farming your gear AND cool skins if you pulled whatever you wanted, with the formula GbF uses.

[@dbeardconqueror]

2:59 I'm so glad that there's not just a monkey being added, but a hawk too!

[@VyncentRemethar]

Glad someone is enjoying the announcement! XD

[@CocoLarge.]

You should've seen Frontier, I was so glad there wasn't just a Poogie being added, but a Halk too!!

[@zephalpha06]

Say that again...

[@johnmang2659]

Hawk what?

[@verydeadchannel9391]

...say that again

[@tripleaa7371]

Monster Hunter only in name. It’s gonna have to be really good if I’m ever gonna touch it

[@Eight_Hearts]

Annnnnd all the hype from this game I just discovered like 2 days ago is all gone lol. I’ll just wait for wilds then.

[@Eight_Hearts]

Really sucks to because it looks almost like a wild hearts x monster hunter type game and I loved the mechanics in wild hearts. A shame they’re gonna ruin it by needlessly draining people’s money. I’d waaay rather just pay like $20 to play a complete version of this.

[@VyncentRemethar]

Probably the best way to look at this. Can you imagine if they chose to announce this without having Wilds backing it up?

[@daruyami]

​@@VyncentRemetharit'd look exactly the same as the 2018 BlizCon lmao

[@VyncentRemethar]

@daruyami MY THOUGHTS EXACTLY!

[@indo1354]

The funny part is that did happen, we had no idea wilds existed but don’t worry monster hunter now dropped in September last year (months before Game awards) and you can pay for a battle pass, VIP, gatcha and permits to hunt monsters.

[@kaiakaigninetails]

The loop of killing monsters for better armor and weapons is so core to the MH Series that a game without it doesn't feel like MH at all. I don't see how they can even try to replace it with a Gacha system...

[@VyncentRemethar]

Probably by allowing people to craft lower tier weapons but saving the high tier weapons for the gacha.

[@OtakuWrath]

Probably gonna have energy to stop you from hunting fast then you might earn currency for gacha through hunting OR they could go the route of character shards like some other gacha games so once you get enough shards of a certain character/weapon it will unlock and the monsters could drop specific shards for their weapons and armor and even free2play characters. There's base building so of course you'll also need to collect certain monster parts for building furniture. The major issue with gacha games is they focus primarily on the money making features so gameplay, performance and anything else that doesn't factor into the gacha experience is going to take a massive hit.

[@theboss1829]

Literally just charms They could make monsters drop currency but that sounds too good for them to do

[@TheAdarkerglow]

My guess is that they're less concerned with pleasing the fanbase they already have, who is looking forward to Wilds, but for the audience they have yet to really snag in Gachas, using a well known IP for easy aesthetics and marketing.

[@VyncentRemethar]

You hit the nail on the head with this one.

[@Gohbbugohkyubbu0036]

when Greed outwits Professionalism , doom to fail for incompetence

[@MalonzeProductionsGaming]

Bruh I would love an open world survival craft game for monster hunter But this game looks....

[@VyncentRemethar]

Disappointing? XD

[@teodoricusslack4524]

mobile lmao

[@tomasz9429]

Imagine if they added monsters to the gacha mechanics. You can't fight anything exept Jagras, Kulu-Ya-Ku and Pukei-Pukei. Everything else has to be pulled for :D

[@VyncentRemethar]

NO, GOD, PLEASE NO.

[@LucasCaminha]

I went from looking at the announcement and thinking "this looks fake", to groaning but begrudgingly accepting it upon seeing the studio developing it, to actively bursting out laughing once I saw the pictures showing base building, and now this. I usually tend to be optimistic when it comes to MH, but this... This is just what everyone was fearing would happen when they saw Rise's paid DLC weapons. I for one can at least be glad this hasn't bled into the mainline series yet, and I hope it never does.

[@VyncentRemethar]

You, my friend, just went through the five stages of grief in the span of a few minutes.

[@chettonex]

Its a Tencent game made by a Tencent gaming studio. That same studio made a Metal Slug mobile game with gatcha mechanics, Age of Empires Mobile with gatcha mechanics and other gatcha or predatory models games as well.

[@EldobelU]

People are like never heard them lmao

[@Kharnix]

I could smell this a mile away the moment we knew Tencent had any involvement with it. There was Monster Hunter Online, which Tencent did work on as well, but we should have gotten something similar to that. Not whatever this is. Even if my phone wouldn't literally explode from running this game even at the lowest graphics, and probably not even have enough space to install it for that matter, I still wouldn't touch it. I'm down with crossovers where we get a monster or two from Outlanders in Wilds, but that's it. Hell, even bringing those World monsters we don't have into Wilds with the new and improved weapons and even armor sets I wouldn't mind at all. The new Kulu weapons look amazing and that's what they should have looked like to begin with.

[@VyncentRemethar]

When it comes to crossovers it's more reasonable to expect that they'll bring monster from other mainline games into Outlanders rather than the other way around.

[@davevang893]

What the f is Capcom thinking.

[@VyncentRemethar]

Probably thinking about getting money! XD

[@jeremiahtorrevillas4396]

If they only fggin develop a good mobile game then they would rake in money but no when these idiots release stuff on mobile its shyt

[@kleefirestar]

Jewish thoughts

[@41Rijal14]

Money

[@aronth]

Money

[@DanieleFerragina]

They check the comments, and even delete them, Under the prducers interview video they deleted mine and I was asking about crossave between console and mobile like genshin impact.

[@VyncentRemethar]

Well... that bodes ill...

[@ElangTitoPersada]

The entire thing that makes monter Hunter good is that you can craft the monster you hunted, and the fight is "realistic" But guess what? They decided to take all of that

[@VyncentRemethar]

Fair point on the crafting, but they did say that they'll try to keep to the core of what makes MH gameplay good.

[@aeoifjapefijl]

Let's be grateful this is the only way we can see what a world with ACTUAL microtransactions would look like in mh. Thank GOD it's not the norm.

[@VyncentRemethar]

My concern is that if it bring in enough revenue it could become the norm.

[@dababacs747]

Give an inch and whatnot. It's a slippery slope

[@calebfoley5872]

Lets make a monhun where you dont craft your equipment. Yall thought to remove the core dopamine producing cycle from a popular video game? Real geniuses over here.

[@VyncentRemethar]

To be fair, they're replacing it with another dopamine producing cycle. XD

[@ricku7765]

I think this will be like genshin, wuwa, tof etc.... There will be energy, that energy is to get materials from monsters.

[@VyncentRemethar]

Yup. That’s pretty much what i’m expecting. Though I don’t think it’ll be just that.

[@maroonytoons6552]

thats not MH, just the design

[@t-4785]

Why would I hunt a dragon if I can't make clothes out of them?

[@Adriiell]

Sounds like an ancient Chinese proverb

[@SegaMaster172]

Outlanders, unironically, made Monster Hunter Now more appealing to me. The only two downsides of MHNow is the unforgiving timer and the lack of being able to craft potions (you have to either buy more or stock up on free daily first-aid meds.) Outlanders seems like it’s going to be a lesser MH experience with a bunch of monetized limitations that’ll hinder overall gameplay enjoyment.

[@VyncentRemethar]

To an extent, I understand the feeling! At least in Now you can theoretically hunt forever as long as you don’t get hit.

[@R.SHIELD]

I'll also say this. The crystals can also indicate, elements... meaning, bring characters with the elements that win against the monsters element. I hope i am wrong and hope they actually fix the game mechanics

[@VyncentRemethar]

That's... something I didn't take into account. Though previous games already had elements like Fire, Water, Poison, Dragon etc. if they add something extra to this I can already see this becoming even worse than I initially thought.

[@blasandresayalagarcia3472]

I dont see how they'll make gatsha work to be honest. gatcha character with armor - why hunt monsters at all or even prep. gatcha weapons - again why hunt monsters for material if you're not using them on weapons on armor gatcha monsters - So not everyone can fight the same monsters? riiiight gatcha companions - this may work but it being optional I don't see how it'll sponsor the whole game so they re used all the assets, but you can make your own hunter, armor, or weapons. Theres no reason to hunt at all and the main loop for monster hunting is broken and doesn't make sense . . . but bro you can build a cool house

[@VyncentRemethar]

Yes, I agree. A gacha system seems antithetical to Monster Hunter’s core gameplay loop. But they might still have weapon/armor crafting for weapons that are f2p. But those will never be as powerful as the premium weapons/armor.

[@rainscents]

They could do layered armor. Its not that hard. But im not gonna surprised if it will be limited weapon banner lol Im expecting some sort of huge gap between F2P and P2W if that happen. This is not gonna be about skill anymore, its gonna be about whose wallet is emptier lol

[@blasandresayalagarcia3472]

@@rainscents Thats a good idea actually, layered armored would be huge but not as big as other gatcha based on characters. I'm mainly afraid that it deviates so much that it defeats the purpose of hunting monsters as a whole

[@meawmere6618]

Honestly the way i see them make hunting needed? Make the "armor" things like relics and artefacts which if it is tru will sucks HARD im hoping its a no but looks like their following the trends sadly

[@meawmere6618]

The hunting companies could work and the way they make it needed is make the timers really short or make the the monsters health's really big

[@A_guy_who_likes_Devil_may_cry]

As someone who already plays those types of games, at least I’m gonna be having fun.

[@VyncentRemethar]

Ayyy another gacha player! Enjoy Outlanders, my friend. I won't have the time to add it to my rotation. XD

[@Raymond670]

When they had the formula for, what could have been a very great game not only for mobile, consoles and pc; Only to frag it all up. This could have been a quirky spin off to build Hype for Wilds

[@VyncentRemethar]

Ngl, the whole base building, glider and gadgets kinda had me going for a while. Would've been cool to see these in Wilds.

[@RR-dh2ub]

Kulu yaku dualblades from the thumbnail looks peak

[@VyncentRemethar]

Just smacking monsters with double Kulu beaks xD

[@ErroeSerenity]

Becoming increasingly concerned that the monetization will be even less savory here than it was in Frontier...

[@VyncentRemethar]

You and me both.

[@gunplamaniac8500]

wish they just went with the God Eater route where you have a personalized character and have your support team as the gacha characters. R rarity plays as regular. (attack and taunt monsters) SR rarity plays like R rarity characters but could use items. SSR plays like SR characters but they could also use special skills and abilities.

[@VyncentRemethar]

Wait a second… there was a God Eater gacha?!

[@gunplamaniac8500]

@@VyncentRemethar yup. it's called God Eater Online and God Eater Resonant Ops. both of them are End of Service now though.

[@VyncentRemethar]

Damn. I missed out. Not sure if I should be sad or relieved about it tho.

[@zentryx32]

maibe very little people will notice it and i know is nothing new but all the structures shown at 1:25 are the exact same from the game WILDHEARTS i mean, in that game the ballista let you create your own shortcuts or hold the monster in place a few seconds, the wind turbine lets you reach certain places and for hunting, etc. but if i see a drying rack, fermenting barrel and smoking box im going to get really sus

[@VyncentRemethar]

Honestly I don’t think that’s a big issue. Cause you could argue Wild Hearts has taken inspiration from MH too.

[@Legobatman_3]

dude this game looks awesome, im trusting that because this is a monster hunter game, nothing but heart is gonna be put into it, as long as there arent epic 5 star rarities or upgrade shards i dont see anything to complain about, this game looks like it had a lot of effort put in it so for me it wouldnt be fair to judge it without trying it

[@VyncentRemethar]

Oh I definitely plan to try it out. But the idea of getting the highest tier weapon from a gacha instead of making it out of a very tough monster hunt is a little disappointing to me.

[@plolp4202]

Lets just hope the premade character are just some kind of allies gacha, i dont think they are stupid enough to remove the core of the game like armor and weapons crafting

[@VyncentRemethar]

I have been surprised by the gaming industry before. I'm honestly not sure.

[@StoneyHalf-DragonHero9102]

This is TiMi we're talking about, I'm certain they WILL do something to absolutely ruin the game, just like they did with Pokémon Unite.

[@dissidius13]

this is gonna have the double the amount of bugs than just a regular MH game. Yeah, gonna pass on this one. Me and my homies would rather play MHU

[@VyncentRemethar]

Not sure about the bugs, but it will definitely pose a problem for my phone, that’s for sure.

[@XmortoxX1990]

From the very first moment I saw the red flags. Tencent neing involved was more than enough for me to be exceptic, now I won't even attempt to play on my crappy phone

[@AGREY-p1s]

Went from “I’ll DEFINITELY play this game!” To “I might play this game.”

[@VyncentRemethar]

Mirroing my feelings exactly.

[@keroro407]

And went down to "I'll never play this game".

[@Aeteris]

​@@keroro407 not there yet.

[@Lockz1111]

To be honest this doesn't look bad, just have to wait and see how it plays out

[@VyncentRemethar]

Doesn’t look too bad, true, but might become a chore to play later on.

[@LordangeloxD]

Well, it's not like there is non microtransactions in the last 2 monster hunter games, specially with the weapons skins in rise that is disgusting.

[@MijoMan2]

in any case, it will be a Capcom gacha, if it reaches EoS we might get a paid version with no MTX?

[@VyncentRemethar]

I’m not sure. I wouldn’t hold my breath tbh.

[@renookami4651]

While established hunters may open doors to flesh out cultural lore surrounding where these "outlanders" comes from...Isn't it also a staple of gacha to have one generic main character who gets surrounded by all these companions recruted along the way? That you can't change a companion's apparence and they comes with preset armor/weapon is pretty standard even outside of gacha. Having side-story missions playing as them would be cool, as long as the main story is made around the player's avatar. I don't think both are incompatible, let's wait and see.

[@VyncentRemethar]

All we can do is wait, but i’m not really optimistic about it.

[@k0v4n0v4]

hopefully they handle the balancing like genchin where f2p is more usable and versatile and the big money equivalent to the five stars are niche and accel in that specific capability.

[@VyncentRemethar]

I'm not so sure this will be the case, sadly.

[@k0v4n0v4]

@@VyncentRemethar we can hope

[@LucyKosaki]

Some speculation in the video, that is worded as if they were facts. But I do agree with many of them and have similar theories/suspicions. Though I wouldn't throw out an own customizable hunter just yet. it is still possible that they make the self-insert protagonist character customizable as in both looks and gear. They could still sell gacha characters by giving them special moves and other unique abilities and if signature weapons are not only usable on those gacha characters, but also on your own hunter, that would just make them even more valuable to pull for. Since Timi's other games were rather light on its monetization and genshin and other big gacha games nowadays stray away from forced-pay difficulty walls, I think there is a good chance that with some grinding (as in doing your daily or weekly farming hunts) it would be possible to clear all the endgame content and the gacha isn't even required if you just wanna hunt with friends and enjoy the story.

[@VyncentRemethar]

You raise some very good points! Your view is more optimistic than mine on the matter, but definitely still in the realm of possibility.

[@ayhcenkard2965]

If the gacha gonna have unique passive and ability what the point of hunting different monster for different playstyle weapons when the gacha ability outshine the craftable one?

[@VyncentRemethar]

If it does end up being implemented in this way, then it would definitely impact the experience.

[@skrpon0]

Coping time In the last few moments of the trailer, the part where a Diablos pops up from the ground, there are two characters present, this could mean that there's a companion system like in Rise and Wilds and can also mean that we won't be stuck playing as premade characters, unless the "player" with Rathalos armor and Longsword is a premade character, which if that really is the case then I'm going back to my emulators. If they wanted to show multiplayer, then they would've shown 4 hunters all at once but it seems that what they've only been showing gameplay wise is singleplayer. But hey, we'll just wait and see

[@VyncentRemethar]

That’s the best outlook to have at this point.

[@wolfitoh7981]

Our character its actually a scholar. So probably we are going to be forced to play with characters like in Genshin sadly. Or just make our character as trash as it can be made it.

[@nightmarewastakenGX]

i hope they are going to be like wuthering waves devs and listen to the community before doing something they regret

[@VyncentRemethar]

That’s wishful thinking, but I hope you’re right.

[@nightmarewastakenGX]

@VyncentRemethar the only thing we can do now is wait and see,and hope for the best for the game

[@spiderlink1248]

the only thing that bugs me is that they didn't go for the portable style of graphics for this game and instead opted to the World/Rise style not only would it be better for the amount of content they could reuse for this game (since they're already reusing assets from World), it would be way less intensive on the damn phone, including whichever one they used to record the game for the trailers which had very visible frame drops at times, and on top of that, it would be way easier to model new stuff made exclusively for the game since graphical details would depend way less on the mesh and way more on the textures themselves! It just doesn't compute in my head how this was the second time they could have used the style that has been used for almost two decades now, made almost specifically for portable devices, and the second time they DON'T use this style made specifically for portable devices

[@VyncentRemethar]

MH World's graphical style is more widely known than the previous entries and is more recognizable. It's a marketing strategy to make people think "Hey, I recognize this. It's something I liked."

[@chilomine839]

As long as they dont bait and switch Wilds I can pretend this doesn't exist.

[@VyncentRemethar]

I don’t think they’ll delay the game.

[@fixylieberus2925]

This game is probably gonna be popular in the Mobile market, sadly enough, Theres not much competition anyways since good games are really rare, This game is 100% not made for MH fans at all, but to the mobile market, wales and shit,

[@VyncentRemethar]

They’re trying to draw in a new audience and get them addicted to the combat system i assume.

[@ahmedmoslemany3908]

Hello Vyncent, this is the first time I stumble across your channel, while I don't care for the life of me about mobile games or any gacha game. I just wanted to let you know that you have a lot of qualifications to be a very decent and successful youtuber. do not be discouraged by the low subcount and keep making content. I liked what I watched even though I'm not even interested in that topic in the slightest (aside from my raging love for Monster Hunter franchise)

[@VyncentRemethar]

Thank you so much for the support! I try to make my content valuable and interesting. While, I'm still in the process of learning and my content isn't perfect, I hope it's fun or useful to you in some way. Since you're not a fan of Outlanders, then I assume I'll see you in Wilds when it comes out next year!

[@ahmedmoslemany3908]

​@@VyncentRemethar For sure! See you in Wilds, Fiver!

[@spectaco]

Sadly I was expecting gacha, but disappointed about the implied pre made character and character weapon lock

[@TheSlackerNamedJack]

And on the face of this, the game hasn't even come out yet. if it's free to download, that's enough for me.

[@VyncentRemethar]

Yeah at least trying it out is free so that’s what i’ll do.

[@mrmeaty5619]

At this point monster hunter franchise is the most popular it's ever been. There's no reason for them not to make it a one time pay game and keep monitization to cosmetic things only. I rather pay $10 for this game and earn everything by playing it instead of free to play where you are paying for lives to play. Making this a paid game is going to net them loads cause of how many people will buy it

[@VyncentRemethar]

While true, it's going to make them even more by using this f2p model. It's just how the mobile market is.

[@mrmeaty5619]

@VyncentRemethar yes I know but they don't need to. That's the point of my comment. And none of that will matter if majority of the player base are monster hunter fans that won't play it cause of the gacha BS. They won't be making shit if no one plays

[@VyncentRemethar]

They don't need to, but they want to. And chances are that even if no veteran players try out Outlanders, the mobile audience is wide enough and more accepting of these practices that they might just make a profitable fanbase out of new players alone.

[@lem5689]

Now take a tab from monster hunter stories and add eggs so we can tame monsters

[@VyncentRemethar]

Who knows? Maybe they'll implement this to add to the base building system they'll have in Outlanders.

[@gaijinkuri684]

Whoever thought a f2p phone game wasn't going to be a f2p phone game with everything that comes attached was really huffing the copium.

[@VyncentRemethar]

Hey! That’s me!

[@adambrunn5699]

... Taking away the ability to create your own hunter??? What are they thinking?!?!?!

[@VyncentRemethar]

Not 100% confirmed. You will have your own hunter but we don’t know if it’s a preset.

[@marielcarey4288]

This is basically Genshin Impact or Wuthering Waves with more realistic graphics

[@VyncentRemethar]

Similar, maybe, but the combat system os way too different.

[@lanibentz9976]

I don’t inherently have any issues with gacha, but it is definetly one of the least monster hunter genres. One thing that tends to make monster hunter enjoyable is choice. It’s hard to have choice while gambling

[@VyncentRemethar]

No choice? Oh come, now. You'll have plenty of choice with whatever f2p weapons and characters they'll offer. Don't you want to grind away at those materials?

[@lanibentz9976]

@ Ah yes the true evolution of farming lol

[@sumbuddy4088]

This seems like it is meant to be a way to onboard mobile/gatcha game players into the proper monster hunter franchise. This game is clearly not meant for most fans, and I think that is fine.

[@VyncentRemethar]

Exactly. They're trying to get some of the mobile/gacha revenue pie that other companies have been profiting off of.

[@SuperHansburger93]

I think the point of Outlanders is to finance the support for Wilds :)

[@VyncentRemethar]

I guess, that can be a silver lining of sorts? But I honestly hope not.

[@Where_would_I_go_without_you]

I was kinda hoping that the only monetization was cosmetics, still gonna try it though

[@VyncentRemethar]

Same, but the way it’s looking, i won’t be sticking with it for long.

[@cgxriptor]

Honestly i was really hoping theyd make this super cool Monster Hunter Mobile game! But then i was shown the pre-made characters, which btw is bullshit. i wanna make my own character, wear my own style, and play the way monster hunter has always done. This feeling of forcing me to play a character that btw we have to "roll" for is a complete stain on the monster hunter series as a whole. if capcom wants to get their core audience onto this game they probably would need to change the core of the *gach* but my bets on that are pretty damn low

[@VyncentRemethar]

While I don’t have high hopes for it, there might still be a small chance for the monetization to not be amazingly bad. I might just be coping though.

[@kev1310]

Clearly you arent the audience they are aiming for lol they want new audience mostly people who already play gatcha games before.

[@kiwihours4307]

I mean dunno what people were thinking. Mobile games makes a fuck-ton of money, why wouldn't they do this? It clearly works

[@VyncentRemethar]

Eeeexactly. The mobile market’s allure is too great to resist.

[@datuputi777]

​@@VyncentRemethar It's Evil. Kids shouldn't be allowed to Gacha without education/history lesson that it wasn't always like this. 😂

[@VyncentRemethar]

Hooooo boi. That's an entirely different rabbit hole in and of itself. Safe to say, I agree that kids should not be taught to gamble early in their life.

[@luimacs]

“Specialized weapons”, you mean the weapons we should craft and put layered armor on for FREE?!

[@VyncentRemethar]

DING DING DING. COOOOOOORRECT!

[@Don_DeMarco]

I guess it's either gacha, or them selling the full game for like $30 or $40 bucks. And from what I know, many people tend to barely want to pay $5 bucks for an app but will easily drop that or even more for gacha related stuff. But anyway! As long as the gameplay is actually fun and gives you a good enough MH experience, then that is fine with me. I know we won't be moving away from gachas or battle passes no time soon.

[@VyncentRemethar]

They drop more for gacha because it’s pretty much psychological manipulation + the dopamine from gambling. As for whether it will provide a good MH experience, we have to wait and see, but i’m not feeling very optimistic about it.

[@nzo9487]

so what are we doing with the parts we get? can we make swords from carapaces and tails? or just some crummy resource?

[@VyncentRemethar]

That is the million dollar question.

[@Saxjon]

The saddest part about all this is that this game won't flop, and other game companies will see this as a chance to make more gacha games out of the franchises we love. Mega Man X was first, then Devil May Cry and now Monster Hunter.

[@VyncentRemethar]

We’re already past the point of companies just discovering this. They’re already aware of it and they’ll try to profit off of it.

[@D3XMAN]

Those craftable base weapons sure do look a lot like something from EA’s Wild Hearts… which funnily enough is a “monster hunter clone” itself (a pretty decent one IMO) 😅🤷🏻‍♂️

[@VyncentRemethar]

I wanted to try out Wild Hearts, but reports of jankiness combined with the high price point and a mixed rating on Steam kept me from giving it a shot. Would've loved if they had a Steam Demo out for me to try out.

[@kingofflames738]

They put gatcha in a subscription based game Frontier and in the prior big mobile game Explore. This seems pretty expected.

[@TheRockK95]

Yup. I called it. Especially when they spam every single monster hunter subreddit. I know because I follow them all

[@VyncentRemethar]

That's some dedication. XD

[@jamesfly1000]

game looks like it could be pretty fun as a spin off but the potential 'gotcha' is making this no from me dawg

[@VyncentRemethar]

Fair enough. I'm still gonna give it a shot if only to see how it plays, but it's probably not going to be something I play too often.

[@matheusps92]

This is a Monster Hunter Game made for people that don't like Monster Hunter to begin with. I'll stick with Now, at least I can craft weapons and armors from the monsters I hunt.

[@Banana-cc5rx]

it's a mobile game what do people expect. There is only 1 reason why mobile games exist, M O N E Y It makes no sense when people expect a mobile game that isn't going to be non p2w, no FOMO, no gacha. Server costs aren't free.

[@VyncentRemethar]

There was a time long ago… when mobile games were pay 2 play. And some were actually good. -a single tear rolls down my cheek-

[@TheRevenant4585]

I mean, they’re trying something new. Just like they’ve always done. What’s the big deal? The way I see it, we’re still getting Wilds, so this game is just a bonus.

[@VyncentRemethar]

Not a big deal per se, but the main fanbase of Monster Hunter dislikes the gacha aspect of the game because it will directly intervene with the main gameplay loop of hunt, loot, craft. If your best armor and weapons comes from just earning enough currency and pulling on the banner instead from actually hunting a difficult monster and crafting it from its remains, then it takes away from the main fantasy of the series.

[@dyvawn]

*Wild Hearts exist* MH can learn a thing or two MH Wilds: I guess not... China MH: Well I hate gacha but base building? I'll try it out...

[@VyncentRemethar]

That base building. They knew it would draw people in.

[@Zwulf66]

i think if Capcom wants to work with studio that make Heavily monetized shit and leave there current MTX business model as is in the core/main games im fine with that. Let Capcom make bank this way

[@VyncentRemethar]

I wouldn't mind them making their money, but I have a feeling that with the gacha system, it'll directly impact the player base's quality of life when playing the game.

[@svenbernhagen6320]

Looked like wild hearts with the zipline and propeller like 1 to 1

[@iknothatukno]

Won't catch me dead playing MH Impact

[@VyncentRemethar]

I salute your willpower, hunter!

[@Lyskard]

I give the game a chance as a low spender. For me important is the word, gameplay and the heroes. I start my Gacha games with 50 euros like Nikke, Honkai, AFK Jouney, Wuwa and see my Progress over a year and spend nothing more.

[@VyncentRemethar]

We have a gacha afficionado over here. Your MO kind of reminds me of Gigguk’s 3 episode rule for anime! XD

[@datuputi777]

😂 Filthy gacha player you mean. As long as people let themselves be fooled to Gamble to even play this world is doomed.

[@Lyskard]

@@datuputi777 its a litte to dramtic what youre saying. When there is no gacha you pay skins, no skins then you pay battepass etc etc.

[@CopeMald-d4h]

​@@datuputi777the way you structure your comment screams how much of an antisocial friendless loser you are kek

[@datuputi777]

@@Lyskard See you don't even know what you're talking about. You have 0 idea of how older online games monetize they always hid it at end game gear progression; also skins had not always been around. So now the question remains which is better you gamble to even play a character/class or you gamble once you had played your character dozens of hours to even hundreds that you're convince this one resonates with you. Also power creeping is natural in gacha games but in older games it was not or atleast it was not designed to be.

[@derekstapleton3396]

Was I the only one immediately put off by this game's announcement before Wilds has been released? Felt like a big red flag to me

[@VyncentRemethar]

If you feel like this now, just imagine what would've happened if they announced this without Wilds backing it up. It would've been an outrage.

[@electric1926]

Limit time offer:Get Rathalos ruby for only 10$

[@VyncentRemethar]

The sad part is that this is totally believable.

[@duckman3872]

I like how Outlanders looks, particularly it's art direction, but it being a phone game was a dead giveaway that this would be a gacha game. What a monkey paw.

[@VyncentRemethar]

Some of us were blind XD

[@yorozuya8018]

At least we have another MH game

[@VyncentRemethar]

To an extent I agree, but my main wish is for it to be a good MH game.

[@unskillfullymasterful]

this actually looks good for me , and gacha is nothing new for me . the main thing ive been wanting for MH for so long are proper characters and not some no-name,character created, unreal engine default lookin model . the graphics look awful though so hopefully they make a proper pc version

[@VyncentRemethar]

So far, a PC port has not been mentioned.

[@thesterben5573]

people are being worried of something they shouldnt even be worried about

[@VyncentRemethar]

Might you elabroate a bit on that? I’m not sure what you mean.

[@FinalKey]

Well, it isn't a mainline game. Spin-offs can do whatever they want tbh.

[@VyncentRemethar]

Oh, that goes without saying. It's still going to disappoint a lot of the fanbase though.

[@oneeyedplayer]

I don't mind this existing, we have a mainline title coming anyway.

[@TheSlackerNamedJack]

Honestly, even without this, I might not have played it. The idea of even being "afraid" of it is weird. I am afraid of getting stabbed when I go to work today. That's not a joke. Being afraid of a game I don't have to engage in charging... Sometimes I feel like I'd live in a different plane of existence. What do you mean "we" feared? I was under no delusion about whether the people developing this game were gonna get paid or not. I was under no delusion about whether there was going to be some type of monetization model. Let's be real If this game would sink in an instant if it were up to us as the fans supporting it Out of the kindness of our hearts. It's hard to build a swallow, but we don't support it out of appreciation. I know for certain that's the case because there was a game that tried that, and people realized really quickly that like the game wasn't going to be around for long. They liked the game, but the people making it couldn't support themselves on the generosity of their "oh, so supportive community." There was no generosity.

[@TheSlackerNamedJack]

I just wish people would be honest. We want games to be laborers of passion that are given away for free. Functionally, that means we want someone to work another job to support themselves and the game to be their passion project so that we can get it for free. I don't necessarily have an issue with that desire, because the heart wants what it wants. What I have an issue with is self-deception. Honestly, Jessica, the artist might not go the extra mile at work for the same reason YOU don't go the extra mile at work. The difference is that Jessica gets judged not just by our boss, but by the clientele. It's worse than retail cause at least we overall agree not to harass retail workers. We don't necessarily agree with that on game devs

[@VyncentRemethar]

I’m sure you had a message here you wanted to get across, but… I’m sorry, I don’t really get it.

[@TheSlackerNamedJack]

​@@VyncentRemethar "Do you think what you're asking for is a fair for both parties." At what point do you tell yourself okay "I may want that but that's not reasonable for me to ask for at that level"? Does a level like that even exist for you? I have a friend who used to work at Capcom who has like breakdowns over this type of stuff. He works at namco now. So this is a very human problem for me. So if I'm going to deal with The headache that this conversation brings up either way why should I stick with my indie game route? Is that really the only way to have reasonable expectations for me as a game dev? Any answer would be okay. But you do have to answer the question "What do you want, What are you willing to trade to get it, and do you think that's a reasonable deal to all parties." Many things are expensive but not for the same reasons. They know you're not going to buy one for the next 30 years so they got to make their money now. This game is going to be made indefinitely. Artists and sound designers and programmers (like myself), and game designers, which are not "just programmers" need to make a nice wage indefinitely. Especially for a live service game which is what this is.

[@slickrick7438]

Wow they completely ripped off Wild Hearts with the ballistas, giant fan, and the cannon. That's hilarious.

[@VyncentRemethar]

I think the accepted term is “taking inspiration”. XD

[@abbydo7]

i hope the gacha this is more like for layered armor/weapon & character not the armor/weapon, why we must gacha for it & for what we hunt the monster if we can't craft weapon/armor from it😅

[@VyncentRemethar]

Even if it's layered armor doesn't that mean that you won't be able to get certain skins by hunting and crafting?

[@abbydo7]

@@VyncentRemethar of course i hope we can still craft layered & gacha only for exlusive/fancy layered

[@VyncentRemethar]

If that's what's going to happen, it'll still be very disappointing. At least for me.

[@kaiju4240]

Interesting....But oh boi mh as a mobile game? I know how the gacha is gonna work...But how is the hunting, material, upgrading material, orb farm is gonna be like. Are hunting gonna cost stamina? Mix feeling here.

[@VyncentRemethar]

That seems to be the most plausible answer. I doubt they’ll allow you to infinitely hunt.

[@thecruzer5856]

Im not expecting much since i know Tencent owns Timi lmao (and just mobile games trope in general, gacha is mandatory) Im just gonna play this just for "playing" i guess, but im definitely not gonna love it lol

[@VyncentRemethar]

Try it out. Stick with it if you like it, drop it if you don't. Easy as that.

[@redalotfi3648]

We will get a hawk too !??

[@VyncentRemethar]

How many people are gonna bully me over this xD

[@chomosuque]

I hope mh players avoid this game like the plague. Cause seriously, they could've just ported any old mh into mobile and it'd sell like hot cakes. Really, imagine Monster Hunter Portable 3rd on mobile with working servers. WHY NOT PORT IT! PLS! CAPCOM!

[@VyncentRemethar]

The sad part is that even if it sells like hot cakes, it would still pale in comparison to the revenue generated by a gacha title.

[@datuputi777]

​@@VyncentRemethar Gambling proceeds😅 wtf is wrong with people.

[@VyncentRemethar]

It can easily become an addiction.

[@Nanomachinesson9094]

Yeah. They need some backlash for this or they will start turning into Blizzard.

[@VyncentRemethar]

Not sure backlash is required. Just people voting with their wallet. If it’s not a profitable game, it’ll send enough of a message.

[@marielcarey4288]

4:08 wow! Aloy fans rejoice! You couldnt get her in Genshin? Get her now here!

[@VyncentRemethar]

Hopefully she comes with all her constellations this time!

[@dissidia1281]

Did they not learn their lesson with Pinnacle of combat?

[@VyncentRemethar]

Apparently not!

[@mhbarney8499]

Yeah...when Companies or franchises get famous...they get worse...lets only wait for that to be fruitfull and after that even normal MH will suffer sooner or later...Its just sad that people rather support this decision and direction only because they enjoy it for a short time rather than ignoring the game and sending an important message to the company in regards of the future of the franchise.

[@VyncentRemethar]

Humans act on their immediate instincts, heh.

[@piapiagame]

if this game is monster hunter with zelda system, i will play it, but i hope the battleplay still the monster hunter...

[@VyncentRemethar]

Thankfully it seems that they will try to stay faithful to what makes MH's combat so addictive.

[@iloveplayingpr]

*sees thumbnail* Smash, next?

[@VyncentRemethar]

Check my most recent vid. Maybe you’ll find your next. ;3