It's IMPOSSIBLE to balance this weapon... War Robots

War Robots Test Server Gameplay: Ultimate Shocktrain with a -50% Nerf to the last test server and despite this effort. The weapon still basically does the same thing as before. It's still far too powerful: How in the world do you balance something like this? Another -50% again? How much too powerful was it in the beginning then?
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[@ManniGaming]

Ultimate Shocktrain with a -50% Nerf to the last test server and despite this effort. The weapon still basically does the same thing as before. It's still far too powerful: How in the world do you balance something like this? Another -50% again? How much too powerful was it in the beginning then?

[@TrollerNinja69420]

No comments??

[@GlitchertheProtogenGamer]

I’m sure PIXONIC will nerf it another 50% but who knows Manni. And will they give the Ue Bulgasari to players for free like they did with the Ue Destrir when it went into the live server?

[@roguelite8444]

it is truly insane. the only overpowered ultimate id be okay with is zeus. love that weapon.❤❤❤

[@maxmurphy6932]

@@GlitchertheProtogenGamerno they wont

[@GlitchertheProtogenGamer]

@maxmurphy6932, how do you know?

[@Cyanoutthere]

Unpopular opinion: we should buff old stuff instead of nerfing new things

[@ManniGaming]

Why unpopular?

[@bigbrainonimain9226]

I disagree, the ttk in wr is ridiculous at the moment. The power creep is so crazy that a solid weapon like redeemer was buffed by a ridiculous 40% and still isnt used much. At this rate every robot would need a massive health buff

[@Lucy_595]

They will just create ultimate versions now. Bulgasari will not get buffed, instead ultimate bulgasari. This ultimate thing is just a way to not buff old stuff and create p2w bots. Maybe we will start seeing ultimate drones too.

[@Cyanoutthere]

@@ManniGaming people want to nerf super op things til they're unusable, completely wasting all your money on it after 3 months. while buffing old stuff you have give you a reason to use them in the current meta, also keeping the power of op weapons/robots give their players the same feeling when playing it, nerfing it just upsets people more

[@Cyanoutthere]

@@Lucy_595 only pix do that if I'm aware, other than the gacha companies(mihoyo, hypergryph, yostars) cause they can't nerf the character after introducing them, it's against the law, war robots tweeks this by giving players access to the workshop and black market, and their popularity is too low to be recognized

[@xrk2983]

5:00 not dude sneezing on the beat drop. godlike timing

[@ManniGaming]

Hah that’s funny. 😊

[@CB-rx4zg]

the shield on the UE bulgasari can actually be destroyed, it just takes 10 million damage to do the job lmao

[@user-ry5mw6dt5g]

true aygir make video fot this

[@karinq1001]

it can be 20 mil if you have the correct modules and pilot skills

[@Eddy_E.]

Yeah, that just means that the shield shouldn’t be destroyed… The don’t even setup the shield duration in the description from the bot, so I think the shield is planned as undestroyble…

[@Neuvillete4.6]

Don't even bother

[@Theofficialabhinav]

Ok, fine I quit, I don’t wanna spend my life savings on this.

[@thorallplayer]

5:09 Bless you Manni

[@ManniGaming]

Thanks 😊

[@jonathanmaurer149]

“You youngling that have just entered the game” I first started playing before the rhino existed, before the first spider robots, back when punishers were fantastic. Those where good times.

[@ManniGaming]

Then I am the youngling compared to you 😊

[@BEHEADED_1]

Interesting thing: Punishers are still better than so many t2 and t3 equipment, even some t4 equipment 😮

[@rife9802]

I barely remember those time anymore, I’ve played probably the Same time as you but a few months after the fujin update I quit playing since I lost my account to my own stupidity tho I do remember that I had a blast playing the game.

[@geoffmalouf3425]

Going on 8 years myself...I remember those days

[@sadcat9851]

If they take away 50% damage a few more times, maybe they could make a great release :D Although I feel like it was kind of stupid from the beginning to make an "Ultimate" version of one of the most hated items to ever enter the game. Seriously, noone liked Shocktrain because it made you want to stay away from your team and is the ultimate no skill button press auto aim instant damage delivery weapon design that everyone hates. Granted, back then you couldn't even restore regular damage since Mender and Wayland didn't exist so the stupid chain damage was much more devastating but I don't think hiding from (now UE) Spectre Shocktrains for 5 minutes straight in the middle beacon thingy on springfield is an experience many people miss.

[@ManniGaming]

I think many players nowadays don’t even know the shocktrain meta 🥴

[@thenthtinkerer7635]

Granted, back then it had lock-on time, like auto-aiming weapons should. Let's bring that back.

[@SkynetT5000]

Pixie is drowning war robots

[@carlboutiona3842]

It looks like the Pix staff have no idea about their own designs and data.

[@obliverator1654]

Even if pixonic really took another 50% off from the dmg it'd still be good, 32.5k when there is 4 still does 130k per shot, considering how the weapon has such a short reload and chain damage, plus most people will be running around with over 100% dmg boost it'd be like 260k per shot in the end.

[@abdouaboud7490]

Still 50% more than the normal shocktrain lol

[@AsperaZeit]

the fact that they even tried 130k first is just insane. that was the amount of damage they felt comfortable with giving it a go. something tells me someone suggested 150k, 175k or even 200k but felt "na, that's too much, let's try 130k"

[@paragzade27488]

Well the idea must have been to do sizable damage to the new Titans if you want to sell it. The bar is still quite high, there's UE Fenrir to beat.

[@thenthtinkerer7635]

And not a single brain in that company thought "but let's reduce the range to 350 m"

[@khoaitaynuong1062]

how to instantly destroy everything in my shitty old hangar tutorial

[@Orochiex3]

Oh God UE Specter Shocktrain with max damage output would kill the game

[@ManniGaming]

I am even more worried about Pathfinder with UE Shocktrain

[@terra2805]

​@ManniGaming Spectre with 50% damage increase when it jumps though will be devastating. Especially with all of the other damage boosts to accumulate on top. I used to run shocktrain Spectre back in the day and it was an absolute killer even back then.

[@Neuvillete4.6]

​@@ManniGaminga UE specter UE shocktrain. 2018 memories anyone

[@Theofficialabhinav]

@@Neuvillete4.6Big memories

[@SamePaul]

4:23 Shield of UE Bulga is destructable. It just takes ~10m damage to wear it down ))))

[@LivingLegendWR]

Awesome gameplay

[@Assassin_Toxic]

7:40 those new weapons sound like like a laughing clown for ma horror game 🤣

[@LUKS3400]

the thing is, pixonic i think releases the weapon first on a state how it would be with pilots extra damage and etc. then in the second session of the test server they reduce the damage, making people think its weaker, but when it comes to the live server its basacally very similar how it was in the first session test server, because of pilots and etc

[@GuardianXKnightz]

Watching your videos made me want to come back and play

[@jessekastner6336]

I personally like the idea of Bulgasari's shield being almost indestrutable, finally a useful physical shield!

[@F97Editz]

Hi, I remember watching you in 2018 but then I stopped watching, and I missed your videos a lot and keep it up 🔥

[@adamwr_k4920]

Wheres the cappuccino

[@ManniGaming]

Good question. This day I drank it afterwards 😛

[@sadcat9851]

For the physical shield on bulgasari, it may seem op but i think it is much more balanced than most of the other releases. The shield is small and some weapons go through, so it actually requires skill to use.

[@ManniGaming]

Maybe you’re right. But imagine blocking the damage potential with it that would kill entire titans. Seems odd when a titan for damper can’t harm the bulgasari because it’s using the shield

[@Saypov]

⁠​⁠​⁠@@ManniGaming, nah, face-to-face encounter with vajras or sonic MGs would vaporise it (unless they destroy the bot itself before the shield since they both have dispersion), it's not indestructible, it has 10 mil hp

[@Dreamweaver0811]

​​@@ManniGaming dont worry , they are going to release another explosive ue weapon like the ue orkan to "nerf" ue bulgasari's shield

[@sadcat9851]

Tbh I think the Ultimate Bulgasari itself is not even a super strong bot atm. It is very good, don't get me wrong, just not anywhere near curie, shenlou or ue fenrir.

[@sadcat9851]

@@Saypov They don't really, titans are just tall enough that some of the weapons would shoot above the shield and kill the robot. I am not sure it actually has 10m hp because it seems like I was able to block several homing bullet eiffels shooting me for the majority of the battle wich should have done enough damage to break it, especially with homing bullets dealing increased damage to shields.

[@fafnir4945]

I don't think Pixonic should even release these, even if they become more balanced simply because certain pilates, modules, and drones will still make them op. On another note, the Fafnir is still one of my favorite robots (if you couldn't tell by my name) and I can still dominate some matches with it if played carefully. I hope to see you make a video featuring the Fafnir soon! : )

[@sivatharishinirahulan7954]

That's crazy is pixonic can't NERF their own guns properly Thanks for informing us manni

[@sunilmishra4519]

Always with u manni keep growing......never give up❤️❤️🫂🫂🫂

[@r.r-r_r-r.r_r-r_r.]

Good to see you having fun and a good mood. Speaking of good mood what happened to good mood gaming Manni plz continue all the good games we don’t need green screen just your voice is enough

[@ManniGaming]

Hehe well sadly the views are down so far there. It’s hard to motivate myself these days to do stuff.

[@Southernstar-RINO]

I’m glad the UE destrier has the 3rd weapon (Kirk’s gun) unlocked with the UE pilot. Check that out!

[@ken1074]

Broken weapon gets nefted and is still Broken....Truly a War Robots Experience 😢😢😢

[@yeahboy7899]

They nerfed the normal shocktrain silently manni.Check it out.INn your leech shocktrain video 6 months ago it said 27000 dmg per shocktrain and in your previous test server video it said 22000 dmg per shocktrain.Shame on them and mention it if you can but you wont see this probably

[@Malikimusmaximus]

Oh my God that's still a lot of damage

[@DECAYWR]

buen video saludos👋👍

[@micheallking8784]

MANNI I'd like to see you do a video with the Dagon with 6 Morana weapons

[@SWY1356]

I think because the Eiffel kept shooting the Absorber with vajras is why the fafnir demolished it with it's breath

[@duongtang-xb1lp]

hi Manni I really like menders and I don't know what gun to choose Jaw Claw is it strong?

[@arion4804]

I like how on the first test of the ultimate shocktrain, you could only use 1 weapon and win most fights.

[@Mapomapo69]

Hi manni, i just bought some d-gems and i wanted to ask you what is the most valuable this i could buy. My budget is 1000 d-gems

[@User91272]

Its one of my loved setup I have using this for 4 months still this surprise me HA 😂

[@stefancama2570]

Imagine when the ultimate trebuchet will be introduced it will do like 200k a shot or even more with a way shorter reload

[@rightousnesspursuer6523]

What is the song that starts at 6:50 time on the video? Also they could just put a lock on, on the ue shocktrain to at least balance it out a little more. I can't believe they took the lock on away😂

[@OnlineAnarchist]

My ultimate futin won’t mind this new weapon

[@not_vortex_zr1019]

Its funny that you would think the bulgasari has an infinite amount of hp and its likely just bugged in the sever but nope, it actually can break(Ive gotten my shield broken before) it justhad a tremendous amount of health. It took 3 eiffels with discordia and tu ulus on the server about 3-5 full mags to break it and im not even sure if i had taken previous damage. Its crazy how if they dont have a way to get behind u or weapons that ignore shields it might be impossible to a kill a good bulgasari player.

[@Aritje123]

How do u make so many videos on a short time repsect man.

[@tippo-ui2ny]

60k is basically the same as maxed reaper in full clip rn. Its not that broken, but still should ba like 20-30% lower since its medium and reaper is heavy. And we have to remember that this doesnt bypass resistance like the other does

[@COX2NSAID]

I am sure this will be the final numbers and no change will be done. The shield though may get fixed.

[@Tom1WRGMG]

You need to try fafnir with all speed skills its insane in champions league with pulsars

[@Veyland]

At this point it feels like Ultimate edition of weapons is just an excuse for pixy to add a overly powerful weapon/robot 💀💀💀

[@sammllr]

Manni would you ever think about starting a fresh account to see how the game feels for a new player. I don’t really play this game anymore but I remember well playing back in the day with my taran fusion when the game used to be really fun and fair.

[@Tigolian]

im actually really happy war robots is actually balancing, keep it up pixonic!

[@Ali_movie]

❤❤❤❤perfect 🎉

[@wavy_maz]

The ultimate bulgasari shield being indestructible might be a bug but probably not. Weapons on ultimate robots don’t break and it wouldn’t surprise me if the shield was coded as a hidden weapon or essentially a built in ecu

[@nothing57813]

4:20 the physical shield can actually be destroyed its just have 10 million hp

[@seangray2481]

I don’t know if it’s just me but I’ve been getting a lot of matches with just Chinese usernames where everybody just sits in the back with fully maxed hurricanes and fires at people and then usually they just leave randomly or when they respawn don’t even shoot after their team gets rushed is this just me or are more people having The same problem

[@chuyvargas1016]

The frase of day 7:23 😂😂😂

[@asianlover101]

Just imagine ultimate specter with the 50% damage boost when he jumps and is in stealth

[@armandzeee]

Which emulator are you using ?

[@randomboy4990]

Nice

[@donaldwong5608]

No matter how good these Ultimate weapons is, as a normal player, we will never get these equipped, let alone the ultimate robots! These are reserved for you guys content creators showing off as well as enticing us keep spending money for something we will never get!

[@Nimblesquirrel]

At least pixonic is actually changing for the better now. So much more things got fixed and the game is going in the better direction. There just needs to be some extra stuff that needs to be fixed.

[@rightousnesspursuer6523]

I think changing the matchmaking will help a lot. Especially with how busted a lot of the ftp robots and weapons are. It's just kills the game to have to deal with overleveled players.

[@skoopy69]

3:14 nah bruh that eiffel should've stopped firing its just feeding more damage output to the built-in fafnir's weapon by firing into the absorber

[@Illagerman]

Talk about the rhino bug please!

[@DfrmKc]

Whats the bug abt??

[@slowsnail12.]

same with ravana and orochi (with pilots)

[@Illagerman]

@@DfrmKc you can’t move when you use the shield, unless you are facing a certain direction (left or right)

[@janiwr.m9068]

​@@Illagerman it's not a bug It's intended

[@ManniGaming]

I have not used the rhino in forever 😅

[@juliancheng1139]

Even it deals less damage on titans, it still able to kill regular bots instantly 💀(It becomes more terrifying with unstable conduct, especially in test server)👻

[@lorenztor1990]

I kinda disagree with you on the Bulgasari physical shield. It's so small and you have to be extremely skilled in using it. I think it's fine to have it be indestructible since you can't stop explosion damage or if you're being shot from 2 angles. If not indestructible, it should have like 100 million HP

[@manishpandey1522]

I'm gonna sell Manni's kidney to buy these weapons for all my robots 😅😂

[@Typhoon1223]

Do you even shock train?

[@r.r-r_r-r.r_r-r_r.]

UE ios was already doing it on the live server what the shocktrain is doing on test server. Both have a ridiculous 65K per weapon

[@ManniGaming]

But shocktrain is 100% instant hit and chain damage too

[@grimzin1655]

The shield can be broken. It takes about 10.5 million damage before it breaks.

[@AcrossaWR]

4:00 watch AYGIRS vid the bulgasari shield just has a LOT of durability.

[@lonniewoodrum1059]

I believe aygir found it has 10 million points. For the shield.

[@bgwithsushanth354]

Manni try the imugi with ultimate shock train and volt with 2 nuclear amps and 1 immune amp with active condult unit it's best

[@Timo_DxD]

How can you play on the PC on the War Robots test server?

[@Tom1WRGMG]

Can you try pathfinder with nerfed dampers manni pleasee

[@quintonloewecke3103]

Wonder what a UE Lancelot would look like 🐴

[@osamamohamedkh6717]

I killed an eiffel with fafnir on live server Fafnir + noa minax + nucler amp + pascal drone + good charge and you will be a beast

[@AcrossaWR]

3:40 fafnir with freeze rockets pls! they will be the new skadi!

[@lorenztor1990]

Balance the Shocktrain by cutting it in half again but make it do double damage to Titans and add partial bypass of resistance.

[@ajax428]

what's the name of that name of that other game again? time for a change.

[@MC-jf6ic]

Don’t have to worry about this as it is too expensive

[@mody1556]

that effile in the first game was shoting you with titan shotguns which is still super powerful but super inaccurate that's why you dealt insane ammonts of damage

[@Niuskayz]

Let's see, _65k dmg per UE Shocktrain_ x4 = 260k. Reload is 6 seconds, 6 sec = 260k / 6 = 43.(3)k damage per second This mean robots with 4 medium slots let's say Leech on _fully upgraded UE Shocktrains_ deals 43.(3)k dmg/sec *without any* damage boosts. Leech has *3* _passive_ module slots and *1* _active_ module slot. Death mark: +20%dmg, 3x Nuclear Amplifier: +(76%*3=)228%dmg, Pascal Drone +7%dmg and +(7%dmg for every kill/assist up to 5 so=)35%dmg. 20% + 228% + 7% + 35% = *_290%_* All this damage boost equals to roughly: 43.3 * 290% = *_125.57k dmg/sec_* *!!!* Keep in mind this might not even be the most optimal damage setup, the numbers could go even higher.

[@daredevil1536]

I said bless you 😂😂😂 5:08

[@Tizi1Tyson]

The Bulgasari has 10million HP on the Phisical shield. Its not invincible! I think it was Aygir who made a Video about how much health it has.

[@ManniGaming]

Oh only 10M. Well that changes everything 😂

[@obliverator1654]

@@ManniGaming took only 11 shots with 4 fully charged shocktrains lol.

[@paulmarcedwin-hj9vd]

Try these weapons on ultimate specter

[@mateomaldonadopaz6393]

The ultimate bulgasari's shield has between 9 or 10 MILLION hp

[@rajasankar390]

they have to bring back lock on for ultimate st

[@levinhghhfvgh3431]

wat is wen you put shocktrains on a specter

[@levinhghhfvgh3431]

Bat in ultimate wersion

[@daved_k9]

the 3-4 UE shock trains can literally 1 shot skyros in ball mk3 lvl lool

[@Daniel-lj6oj]

Mani I know your ultimate dream weapon. Ultimate vortex with 3 second reload! Not too OP but you can spam it! Make it happen Pixonic. 😊

[@mihaigo693]

I want to play the old versions

[@Malikimusmaximus]

Hello there

[@Cyanoutthere]

ULT Bulgazari shield has 10mil hp

[@gamelias87]

You think is op as it is now? Powerman skill will make it ultimate op

[@argus_1995]

Not exactly a supporter of pixie: but after the Titan repair and battle ship Nerf hasn't the game become much better.

[@Wr_editor]

PLS DO A INDRA FLAMETHROWER GAMEPLAY PLSSS🥺

[@noahhunt880]

BRO WE NEEEEEED LIVE GAMEPLAY PLSSSS

[@silencerbear9347]

But only myself and like 5 other guys will have 4 or these and be skilled enough to actually use them. If it was like the ultimate halo when they came out where one of them was killing titans in one hit then sure. But this will never be a problem.

[@r.r-r_r-r.r_r-r_r.]

3:05 Bruh😂 Manni did you forget fafnir can block and boost its built in weapon by unlimited amounts thats why the The noob eiffel died so quick. He’s noob because he boosted the BIW by about 5-600 %

[@Tizi1Tyson]

Nah there has been a cap on the boost in the Fafnir nerf and a Raptor Robot with the New weapons was shooting at the Eifel too! So thats probably the main cause of damage.

[@ManniGaming]

Yes it can boost it but they capped it by +100%. That’s why normally Fafnirs don’t really drop titans so quick anymore.

[@zackstrub8496]

My shocktrains are automatically shooting and I can’t stop it! I need help!!!!!!

[@Spiritings]

I'm not sure how they are to balance this because the UEs are supposed to be 50% more powerful than the original variants.

[@alanmoreno4086]

Can we get an Ultimate Mercury ❤❤❤

[@_expert_53]

According to aygir physical shield hp is 10M

[@manwha-reader1]

when you realy think about it the bulgasari it has no defense besides the shield so rockets and stuff can go through it so and for the unlemeted hp on the shield is there is so much stuff that deals 500,000 dam every clip or something plus titan wepens and there is nothing that stands out we have a robot that has 5 dashes and robots that have 300,000 hp and it not that op you can kill it ezly and its just a faster vergen of the shell but a beter shield