It's Not Linux, It's You

[@TheLinuxCast]

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[@Leahi84]

I was excited to switch to Linux. I knew there would be stuff that wouldn't work or might break, but it all still excited me anyway. Using my computer is fun again for the first time since the late 90s.

[@eniojurko]

Likewise!

[@RedSntDK]

That's how I feel as well. Windows has slowly become less and less exciting. Remember themes? I may have had to reinstall linux a couple of times since I switched in January, but it's nothing compared to how often I reinstalled 95, 98, 2000, ME and XP. 7 and 10 were stable, but by 10 windows was just a shitshow. Now I'm back to playing around with the OS learning new things and exploring what freedom really means.

[@Juiceboxmakes]

Thats the hardest part. People don't get why you all of a sudden like using your pc

[@metalovytatko]

You are taking words from my mouth, actually!!! Absolutely agree!

[@SammyGoated]

Oh boy how that "fun" will turn around

[@_dev_null_]

I get not wanting to learn a new way of doing things, but I can't understand the acceptance of blatant spyware, malware, ads, forced updates, or not owning the data on your machine.

[@erroneouscode]

There's just a higher tipping point for a lot of people where they eventually accept ENOUGH IS ENOUGH! and I'm not putting up with it anymore. Some tough choices for a lot of people to make as to what they're willing to sacrifice including their own principals etc just so they can continue to play a game, or run a piece of proprietary software. The whole Windows system has become so predatory against it's user base.

[@infinitivez]

@@erroneouscode I got tired of having to run a new script to turn off all the spyware and ads after every update. Bailed 1 week before Rewind was announced. If everything else hadn't done it, that announcement surely would have. Thing that troubles me, there's a lot of great engineers who work at Microsoft still. I can't even imagine they think any of this is a good idea. They have got to be rolling in their chairs at behest of some money chasing marketing or something.

[@PPKNexus]

Gotta be honest.....my initial introduction to Linux was pretty damn good. This may have been due to the fact I was not attached to any particular Microsoft applications, which made transitioning much easier. I was just doing backflips when I found work I produced with Microsoft applications could be opened and used with an open source equivalent..........LOVE the intro!

[@tacokoneko]

the ultimate classic move, in 2016 i made my powerpoint presentation in libreoffice, exported as pptx, and when i opened it on the windows projector in class every slide was completely black. ever since i know to always open it at least once in office in a windows virtual machine before submitting it.

[@ninetydirectory3798]

@@tacokoneko Would convert them to pdf solve the issue? If those presentations were static.

[@anonskritler]

I didn't settle for linux, I settled on linux.

[@VideoEnjoyer-m3z]

It's not about "perfection", and it's not even really about "preferences". It's about the incentive structure involved in switching. That starts with USAGE. What is a computer *FOR*? If Everything I need to do, I can do on my Windows PC already, then it REALLY doesn't MATTER whether or not "Linux can do that too!" What matters, is the cost of retraining myself, versus the benefit of being able to do EXACTLY what I was ALREADY doing on my Windows PC. This is why a lot of channels are devoted to questions of "privacy" and "security", because they think that's the value-add of Linux. It's really not. Because if you just do everything you did on your Windows PC, on a Linux PC, you're going to be subject to almost the same exact privacy violations. But think of it this way, my dude: Why aren't you switching to the GREEN video platform? It can do everything KZbin can do, and more! It has monetisation schemes, it has playlists, it has VERY robust streaming options, AND it has a community management and paid subscription feature that is FAR better than anything KZbin offers. So, why don't you switch? Because, for you, the cost of switching far outweighs the benefit of switching. That's why. And no amount of "education" is going to change your mind. It just "works" for you. Same thing with Windows and Mac users. It just "works" for them, and no amount of "education" or cajoling, or shaming, or enticing is going to convince them to switch. Because there's no good reason to.

[@judelingan5863]

What I will say is that linux problems tend to be MUCH easier to diagnose and fix yourself than windows problems. Usually, the solution is one of the first things I think to try.

[@firestormjupiter]

Sometimes Windows has the most random bugs that happen after an update of some component. Completely Microsoft's fault, and after some checking it's not hard to tell that replacing some file can fix it, but because said component is in some heavily protected folder like WindowsApps it becomes impossible to fix. Those are the times it really feels like you don't own the computer.

[@bobsonuk]

The problem with statement "Linux just works out of the box, no problems." Alot of people forget to end that statement with "on my hardware" New users under estimate just how much their "out of the box" experience depends on the hardware. If you get a piece of piss little too no problems, or an endless bloody nightmare, all depends on your hardware & the distro choice.

[@BonFromageTech]

Exactly. And that can vary greatly depending on the distro. I know Matt's an OpenSUSE fanboy, so I'll use that example. I've tried Tumbleweed in a VM and I thought it was great. Yes, Zypper is slow, everyone knows that, but it worked fantastic. In Virt-Manager. Every time I tried to install it on bare metal, it would never work. Desktop, laptop, didn't matter. For whatever reason, it didn't like my hardware. But Debian and Arch run fine. So I distro hop between those two now.

[@martinsportfoto2423]

Quoting: 'Alot of people forget to end that statement with "on my hardware_' - you could also add "and with the selection of software and features I am used to working with" I find Windows somewhat annoying, I find MacOs more annoying and I find Linux (LMDE in my case) somewahat less annoying. There is always some level of annoyance - just pick the one which you personally find least troublesome 🙂

[@1pcfred]

Yeah why do people have crappy computers? If you have a reasonable PC with normal hardware Linux works fine.

[@LedoCool1]

Windows just works out of the box. So when advertising windows I would tell people of what they can achieve. With linux I'm supposed to tell people of headaches they're getting instead?

[@1pcfred]

@@LedoCool1 Linux just works today too. I can plug in a flash drive and it'll boot right up. Easier than Windows. Linux will boot with no human interaction whatsoever. I don't have to enter a product key, nothing. I'll just land on a fully functional desktop. So mine's bigger than yours is!

[@ringo8410]

I've complained before that elements of the Linux community can be unwelcoming to newbies with questions, and I stand by that. But it's a balance; newbies need to go into Linux with the mindset that Linux is a new system and that they're going to have to learn in order to use it well/effectively.

[@BWGPEI]

You make some good points. As an old guy, I had pretty low expectations, but was willing to test distributions to see if they would work for us. As happened, we settled on Linux Mint, and have stuck with it. Why? Well I hated the idea of getting trapped in the Apple ecosystem, and was royally annoyed by MS Windows 10 telemetry. So yes I expected to learn new things and yes I went and got hardware that had Linux support. That did smooth the transition nicely, and there were several helpful KZbin channels, yours included, to help settle the problems that turned up. My salvation has been GRUB.

[@stefanhellwig-lp4rg]

I recently switched my (not-really-into-tech) wife‘s PC from Windows 10 to Linux (Fedora 40 KDE). Since she was already using Thunderbird and Firefox for years the migration of data was easy and she simply continued her work on Linux. The only thing she had to get used to a little was the app(s) to scan documents and export them to PDF; they differ quite a bit from the Windows apps. But she‘s there now and does not miss her old Windows 10 system 😊.

[@BytebroUK]

All of what Matt said is so true. Silly example; my friend's laptop died, so I gifted her a laptop running Linux, I think it was Cinnamon Mint, because hey, she's coming across from Windows. She loved it, up until she needed to tweak one of her advertising posters which was from MS Publisher, and it rendered slightly differently in LibreOffice. Suddenly I got, "This is awful, I can't do what I need to do". I pointed out that several of my go-to Word docs rendered slightly differently in LibreOffice, until I tweaked them to be 'how they were' or perhaps more importantly 'how I want them'. All I got was "No, I just need it to work as it always has". I told her to go get another Windows machine, and BTW may I have that laptop back please.

[@spinkey4842]

linux is a relationship. people nowadays forget nothing is perfect and social media has ruined our expectations. a bit of proper effort can go a long way.

[@exotericidymnic3530]

People leaving Windows because it's really bad, and finding pain points in Linux that makes it seem as bad as Windows, and therefore not worth the effort.

[@neunistivlija]

Just to stick it to megacorporations

[@iBolski]

For me it was worth it to get away from Microsoft's forcing of things like OneDrive sync being enabled without asking me to do so after an update. Also, the selling of my browsing habits, and just other changes that made the experience worse. I understand Windows has its place, just not for me anymore. Linux has been fine for me for both work and gaming. I don't play competitive multi-player games so I don't have to worry about anti-cheat not working. And anti-cheat not working is on the devs not making it work under Linux and that's they're choice, just like it's my choice not to use Windows.

[@TheRandomDave]

Linux isn't a simple plug and play OS. I believe that the majority of people don't even think about their OS day to day. It is just a thing that allows them to use the programs/applications that they need to get things done. Most people don't care enough about the OS to even think about changing unless they have a reason to. If Windows/MacOS were no longer able to do what the average person needs, then people would look for alternatives. Those that use Linux use it because it helps them get things done or they simply like it. I use Linux for old hardware that runs slowly on Windows, that's my application for it. Most people will just upgrade their hardware when it gets too slow, rather than change their OS. My 2 cents.

[@MegaLokopo]

I think it could be a plug and play OS. I think people give too much credit to microsoft for why windows is so easy to use and learn. It is the independent developers who made windows what it is today not microsoft.

[@BernardoHenriquez]

Windows is not plug and play OS

[@Damglador]

Idk, I reinstalled my windows and it killed my fps in DRG from normal 100 to 40, tried installing Linux and it just works. Ironic. Yes I reinstalled drivers and all that garbage on windows, but it still didn't work, just installing Linux and yay -S nvidia worked without any issues.

[@rightwingsafetysquad9872]

@@BernardoHenriquez Right, with Windows you don't even need to plug. You can skip straight to play because it's already on the computer when you buy it.

[@lucolesco]

​@@Damglador Can you elaborate a bit more? I have never had any problems with installing Nvidia drivers on Windows. Did you install it through Nvidia Experience?

[@GraniteFaun]

The "not working out of the box with your hardware" aspect of any "preconfigured distro" is so bad for me that I have to stick with arch because I have to set it up in a specific way.

[@donaldmickunas8552]

I've used Windows, Linux, and Freebsd. What I have learned is that they are each different OSs with different philosophies and ways of doing things. Coming into Linux expecting it to work like Windows is a mistake. Moving to Freebsd from Linux is also an issue. Freebsd has some things that are similar to Linux but it is not Linux. When switching to another OS, we have to be willing to adapt to a new way of thinking and doing things. If we aren't, then we should stay with the OSs we came from.

[@haplozetetic9519]

In 25 years of using Linux I've had plenty of issues, but while it's not perfect, my customized Openbox setup is the most comfortable and convenient interface I've ever had.

[@MrDerekLRobinson]

Good explanation of the User experience... it's the person wanting Linux. Well Done. 👍

[@cheako91155]

The idea that new users should assume an answer without asking because it may look like they are complaining is a troubling state of things.

[@damolin77]

For me when I started using Linux I had Windows on my computer and Linux on my laptop. I challenged myself to spend a hour a night to use Linux. After 3 to 4 months I found myself suck in Linux and really never looked back. If someone is on Windows 10 now and has no money to buy a new computer I recommend you to watch some videos on Switching to Linux or Linux for beginners and pick your OS from that. Then challenge yourself each night or each week and use Linux and learn. Just remember you don't have to use terminal like the nerds do but and a big but if you learn the terminal (it's fun) you can get a lot of things done and even many thing you can't do in Windows.

[@illucedeipesci]

Linux does have a tendency to suck you in if you're the kind of person who will enjoy it.

[@infinitivez]

Brodie mentioned! I happen to love gimp. I quit using photoshop somewhere in 2019 and tried a number of different programs, but for the most part, I get almost everything I need to get done, in gimp & inkscape. And I do photo restoration and graphic design professionally. It's sad to hear gimp isn't good enough, or they couldn't get used to any other image editor out there. Much like your issues with video editing, I want there to be stuff that meets their basic expectations. But that also comes with them being vocal about what those needs are to the developer groups. If they devs don't hear from people, they can only guess.

[@swagmuffin9000]

i came from mac os, linux exceeded my expectations. it was stupid hard to fully understand, especially on my own, but my god was it worth sticking with.

[@haplozetetic9519]

I know the feeling. To leave Windows 25 years ago, I started using Linux when things like the network card and the display server had to be configured manually. At times it was a real pain, but the effort was worth it.

[@Jimson-wx8uq]

Im not saying you're doing this but it wouldnt be fair to say that everyone whos unhappy with Linux is "expecting perfection". Sometimes I just need my computer to work and I cant put off my task to change a config file or something. Sometimes im in the mood to use a program and when i go to install it I find that Linux requires me to watch a tutorial or debug the install for half an hour. I got sick of it eventually but I expect to give it another try.

[@MegaLokopo]

They don't want linux to be perfect they want it to be easy to use. Windows isn't easy to use because microsoft made it easy to use. Windows is easy to use because millions of developers made programs over 20 or so years, with good gui's to solve problems many people were running into constantly, instead of simply saying "learn the terminal", which is the equivalent of saying "fix it yourself" or "google it".

[@tylerdean980]

@@Jimson-wx8uq this is why arch is so nice, everything is just a yay -S away

[@infinitivez]

Believe it or not, Jimson, I hear you. I think people who have a background in compiling applications and/or programming have it a lot easier, as we don't oft have to watch videos or try 101 different things we read off reddit, because we can tell what will and won't work, based on the errors we get. But sometimes even we get stumped. Part of me is happy it's so configurable, part of me dreads what nasty library dependency did I managed to remove by accident that's keeping this program from running.

[@philcrase7425]

If you don't want to put some time and study in to how to use it then Linux is probably not for you. Nothing is perfect.

[@philcrase7425]

Btw great video, very well said and done!

[@gamersgottagame1217]

I agree with you. Maybe in the future if linux ever reaches 10 or maybe even 15% marketshare maybe adobe would consider linux

[@1pcfred]

Adobe is in no position to change Linux so their business model works on Linux. Linux doesn't support closed source software. Just because closed source can be made to half assed run on LInux doesn't mean that Linux supports it. Support goes deeper than that. If we don't have the source then we can't debug the code and fix it. That's full support.

[@richardbaker4974]

Small issues but it’s usually easy to fix and free to fix!!

[@OnyxIdol]

If 15+ years in software development have taught me anything it's that switching a technology for a new hot one will get rid of some current problems but inevitably introduce some different ones. Same with the Windows/Linux situation. So I agree that there is no such thing as perfection, only something that will give you the least amount of hassle for your use cases.

[@D.von.N]

I am more than happy to put the effort in, and I have, weeks and weeks, learning new ways and stuff. And I need advice as I have reached a dead end. I installed LMDE on 1 TB ssd. Then I shrunk its partition to about half, boot loader also present, creating a third partition where I want to install Ubuntu 20.04.6. All partitions clearly defined, Lvm for LMDE, but Ubuntu seems to want overwriting the LMDE part, based on the warning when wanting to proceed with installation from a live ubuntu usb. Only that third partition is highlighted and ticked for formatting, root indicated by /, but the warning tells me it will overwrite my LVM content. What am I doing wrong? I rebooted the while thing, tried again, the same issue.

[@illucedeipesci]

Relatively new Linux user here-I switched towards the end of July. I didn't have a perfect experience, but I had a very good one. I was already using the terminal pretty much daily on my old MacOS system and I was really excited for the change. Switching from Apple is extremely difficult thanks to the ecosystem-and that's before you think about switching all of your friends and family members over to signal-but in my specific case I was motivated enough to pull through it. Switching took me forever-specifically, finding a music app that met all my needs took about a month-and I've had a few minor bugs thanks to my obscure hardware working a bit strangely with newer Kernel versions, but I can never go back because I enjoy using it so much more. For those people who are motivated to switch and are willing to face the challenges associated with Linux, it can be extremely rewarding. Still, I hope there comes a day when open computing becomes more available and accessible for mainstream audiences.

[@thingsiplay]

Big reason why people don't switch is the required time and efforts. I think people put effort and time into learning how to use Windows and build an eco system for themselves, that they do not want to throw it away and restart from scratch. Plus the new things that requires time and effort might be not what they want and that would be waste too. Nobody likes to waste their time and efforts. This is a huge reason why people don't switch what they know.

[@MegaLokopo]

Windows is easy to use and easy to learn, linux is not. The reason windows is easy to learn is because you have had developers building programs for decades with good gui's to solve people's problems, so when I run into a problem in windows, I don't have to diagnose it, I google it, and I find a program that will fix it for me on windows. On linux you have a bunch of people who are constantly saying "learn the terminal" which is no different from saying "google it" or "fix it yourself". When I download a program on windows, it doesn't just run the program, it also runs a debugger of sorts, that when it runs into an error instead of just giving an error message, it actually does things to diagnose and fix the error and it doesn't even tell me. When I download a program from the internet, I have never had to tell it which version of windows I am running, the website automatically detects I am running windows 10 or 11, and auto downloads the right version. When I download something from the internet on linux because it isn't in the package manager, It doesn't do anything beyond download the file I asked it to, it doesn't do a single check, it doesn't even ask if I want to make an appimage I just downloaded runable.

[@avarise5607]

@@thingsiplay People can be bothered to put any work these days, while at the same time demanding world gives them everything for free...

[@ninetydirectory3798]

All things require time and efforts to learn. Not just Linux.

[@matthiasbendewald1803]

My father, 81 years, had issues when switching to Windows 11. It was last year, so he was 80 years old and didn't know much about windows or computers in general. He works his way around the system to get his stuff done. That is mainly managing a growing library of photos, some office documents, web-browsing and online banking. Some guy showed him Ubuntu as alternative. I didn't consider that to work out at all, everything is different, so just how could that ever work? He needed 2 days to find the button to shut his PC down. And that was the hardest part for him, everything else just either made sense for him from the beginning; other things were tricky but he managed his way around everything. So 2 weeks after starting with Ubuntu he was like "I'll never ever touch this other system again. This "new system" is just so much better". Until now he doesn''t understand that he's a Linux user. He would just tell you that he's using something better, more intuitive that is working in a way that makes more sense to him.

[@infinitivez]

We call that sunk-cost fallacy. And I feel that's a horrible way to live your life; being a dog who can't learn new tricks. It's not as if you lose everything by learning two or more architectures? (I mean, it obviously depends on the person, sure. But I think people should strive a little harder too)

[@bstar777777]

My brother works for Adobe got me the Photoshop package which includes the web version of photoshop. It seems fine, is it any different from the desktop client? I obviously can't use the desktop version so I have no idea. I still use Gimp more, but I Photoshop does work fine.

[@tomas-wi8dy]

You are right! A little effort is required ... I start to be full-time linux user with Ubuntu Breezy, my transition time was around 3 weeks.

[@MegaLokopo]

If every time these people ran into a problem in linux, they would make a simple python program with a gui that automatically runs the terminal commands for a new user and then runs basic checks to make sure everything is installed and is working, instead of nagging users that they need to "learn the terminal", linux would actually very quickly be easier to use than windows. Imagine if windows started to require terminal commands for many basic troubleshooting steps, or for downloading many programs that weren't on the package manager. People would go nuts and complain it is not easy to use. Microsoft is not the one who makes windows easy to use, it is all of the developers making programs to solve problems instead of nagging new users. Imagine if instead of working on proton and making steam work like magic on linux, Valve just simply said "learn the terminal". Why isn't there a program on linux to install streamdeck-ui and then when that fails, it automatically suggests you try boatswain, and then downloads that for you? I love linux to be clear, it is just so close yet so far from being so great.

[@TechnoMinded-qp5in]

I have no issues at all with Linux Matt and i've been using it at the beginning of the year due to Steam Deck making me want to try Linux I know there's work arounds to every problem I wouldn't give up on Linux so easy of course it's not perfect but a good way to get away from Microsoft turning into Skynet and saving money on a computer for sure. I hope you have a good time Matt I really like your videos dude you're not a lot to get banned.

[@matthiasbendewald1803]

Thank you for this video! Now I understand why Linux is so popular here in Germany, compared to the US. The expectations on Linux are low here. Really low, like that you need to be a magician on the command-line, tinker and "repair" for hours just to get a working system. Whoever is willing to take on this experience is just astonished how good and smooth everything is. My cousin was shocked as I have let him do everything on himself for his work laptop. He wanted something to edit his libre-office documents. He was like "that's it? Who did ever say Linux was hard? It were only 5 Commands on the command-line to get the printer working better, only half an hour of work perfectly - and it even worked in some way out of the box!" If you look at this from different expectations - things didn't work out of the box. If he didn't have some support from me, he might have failed to get the correct printer driver into his system.

[@infinitivez]

I dated someone who ran linux, is how I got into it initially. I really do think it's something where you need to know someone, to teach you the answers are usually only a google search or two away, how to work the basics, the similarities between terminal and dos prompt commands, etc. It took maybe a year of me fooling around, but in the end, I keep coming back to linux on almost all my systems. It really does help to have friends in the ecospace.

[@danjuroff]

Most Windows or Mac OS users would have no reason to consider switching to Linux for the sake of their "workflow." It's questionable that most of those users even have what you could call a workflow. If they use computers at work, they aren't computers running Linux. If they own a computer for home use, it came with Windows or Mac OS already installed, and the software required to do whatever they want to do was either already bundled or readily accessible. And if they were concerned about their privacy, they wouldn't be laying their personal lives bare on Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, Twitter, LinkedIn, and every other social media platform out there. The real reason people switch to Linux is because it's fun! And those are the people who stick with Linux, even if they continue to use another operating system sometimes, just to get the work done that they can't do in Linux. Whether we like every OS or not, they are all amazing creations. Have fun with whichever one(s) you choose.

[@RoughGanome]

10:28 it's all about the neck beard

[@KrishnaDraws]

I think the expectation comes from several Linux channels who make Linux out to be better and easier than the other platforms. As you mentioned, learning a new OS takes effort. And, as we must expect, not everyone is up to the task.

[@bjre.wa.8681]

As a almost retired drafter I thought I would never escape MS because it supported Autocad. Turns out I just don't use Autocad anymore and I'm more than okay with that. Mint does every thing that I need doing in this stage of my life. Thank you to all the invisible folks that developed and continue to update Linux and Mint! I'll soon be on a fixed income and will live in the world of FOSS!

[@tmendoza6]

Damn it the sec you put out that video on hyprland my damn hyprland setup on Arch crashed

[@infinitivez]

OH NO!

[@RiftWalker111]

I joined Linux a month ago and it was a nightmare due to my hardware being unique along with software glitches/application bugs on mint. But now I've gotten used to it, sure not everything is fixed but its good enough.

[@GiovanniLippi-y4g]

The best way to transition from Windows to Linux is switching to Open source software on Windows and comparing them. Once you get what the pros and cons are on the overall, you'll be fine switching to Linux. For example i was pissed about Adobe Illustrator and Photoshop, and started trying Inkscape and GIMP. Found out they were awesome. Gimp had a fes drawbacks but I still could do anything, just differently, while Inkscape was just a lot better than Ai, the only thing that i was missing was multi page documents and batch rendering, and guess what? After few years, we do have that feature in Inkscape. Not depending on a monthly subscription and throwing thousands of dollars in the bin, and knowing you own your software and it will always be there when you need it, is a lot more professional. btw inkscape is feature-richer than Ai, and believe me on that one

[@Bruces-Eclectic-World]

Awesome and so so true video... Linux is a learning curve that really does not ever stop. Like all good things you have to work at it... 😁 LLAP 🖖

[@CDMS_pt]

I would like to know how many people in the world uses Adobe, 0.01% or less?

[@Exhe_]

My linux 101 was me erasing my windows laptop completely and being unable to boot it. I had to ask my neighbour her laptop because the only usb I had to install linux mint was corrupted and needed to flash it again. Good days 😂

[@kulwantsembhi1982]

Problem with people is that they don't want to explore they have some kind of blindspot.

[@SnabbKassa]

if the universe doesn't meet my expectations, for supermodel girlfriends or anything else, that is the universe's fault.

[@Mrneilthompsonuk]

It's a,lot less of an issue now than years ago. However as you say Learning is required. W11 system requirements will be the biggest reason most people swith IMHO. However once you switch you tend to bring others with you. The snowball effect is starting to gain pace

[@JessicaFEREM]

no OS is truly plug and play, users simply become numb to the maintainance required. MacOS is a hard OS to learn. it requires using the terminal and working around apple's draconian requirements and limitations. windows requires a lot of upkeep, and will quickly rot if you don't give it the care and attention it demands.

[@chadrox999]

for me id say linux is perfect, not because it doesnt have issues, but rather because i dont want something easy, its been such a great learning experience figuring out why what i did didnt work, or why it broke something. sure my day to day use isnt as productive, but thats what i want, something to continue tinkering on and always having more i can improve and learn from. the imperfection is perfect for me haha

[@MarkusHobelsberger]

To anyone looking for a Photoshop replacement I recommend Krita over GIMP. Krita's workflow is a lot more similar to Photoshop and intuitive than GIMP's is.

[@derekr54]

Everything is perfect in the fact that it is imperfect.

[@arturlima8881]

Great video. Great topic. My friends don't have good laptops and I ask them what can they upgrade and they always say tô me they have no money. It's okay, capitalism is rough on all of us. When I say they can run a lightweight Linux distro they all say no. The don't know about the freedom, the security, the quickness of it but all of them say an unambiguous and clear no to it. I really think distros with the most common apps included are to be praised. For my circle it's unreal tô expected anyone to Google. People with their busy lives and alianeted minds are very uncurious. They don't windows they want windows-without-problems. When I say they will use libre office or steam with proton they already don't want it. They don't want to learn something new or to change their habits, they want things done só they can rest from the pressure the system imposes on them. Everyone is tired. Chilling is not a right is a privilege. They prefer seamless interactions with the system. The machine must do, not ask for approval or input.

[@impersonator4439]

Full time Linux user? Did you abandon the Windows editing PC?

[@HeathenHacks]

This is a comment that I saw on r/davinciresolve, and I think it applies here. *There's a whole lot of "can't" here.* *As things are out of the box, given your unwillingness to try new things, the answer is no.* The context is someone's complaining about how annoying davinci resolve is compared to Premiere Pro, because doing things is a bit different and asking if there is a way to do a thing.

[@um8078]

I actually found the softwares to be better, because they do one thing and one thing well, and that's all I wanted with my software

[@supremeluma]

matt, you already are a good linux content creator :)

[@MarioinRmd]

I was using a ton if FOSS programs on Windows, so from that standpoint, switching was a breeze. I stuck with Win7 as long as I could. All of the telemetry and hand holding in Windows 10 was hugely off putting for me. Windows was not a bad OS by any stretch.. (Well.. 10 and 11 are.. But 7 and XP were solid) It's just that MS is taking WAY too many liberties now.

[@erikferguson71]

Windows isn't perfect out of the box either. In fact, Linux Mint works better out of the box than Windows 11.. no account or product key needed.

[@wartlme]

Linux needs a lot of money behind it and it will always be challenging.

[@nathanl2966]

Money is what turns software into an ad-riddled data-miner.

[@terravida333]

Linux is good enough.i like my little linux install. It works well enough to let me do my things. People need to understand that linux is a kernel everything you else is a "module" you put on top of it. I learned it the hard way. I started with a fedora gnome install and I had problems with it. When I say problems, I mean serious problems. Bluetooth not working etc. So a year passes by, I destroy my install several times, changing to Ubuntu, the usual things, then I switch to Arch (was a stupid move back then) learn a shit load, and change my mentality to "if it doesn't work, there should be a way to make it work". Nowadays the only pain point for me is the damn music player. Currently I'm using Lollypop or Strawberry but I would love to hear your recommendations because those two are kinda okay but nowhere near good at all and I'm missing muscbee😢

[@jct4647]

100% agree with tour sentiment 👍

[@tomiyokasensei]

My problem with linux - crappy battery life . Other issues I can fix but this battery issue I can’t .

[@grekandrew8995]

Had my first computer in 2023 switched to linux and got used to it

[@hopelessdecoy]

The only program I miss from Windows is MS 3D builder. It was a great light 3D modeling program for my 3D printer. Since it isn't an exe but instead a store app Wine cannot help either...

[@hrfdude4234]

its interesting that most people that try switching to linux (at least the people that are vocal about it) are all using Adobe and weird hardwares (i know thats because theyre content creators, duh!), while most people cant even use microsoft paint! people used to call me to create an apple account for them! people cant even install windows and we're talking about user friendly linux installs and troubleshooting! just like windows, when something goes wrong they just call their tech savvy friend and that person is probably capable of solving most problems! I think we should talk less about linux problems in general info videos and talk about linux shortcomings in the technical and/or professional conversations. and also we should just leave the productivity guys to be on windows because they make more of a bad publicity if they switch to linux! honestly i think its excellent that professionals stay on windows, after all its a paid os, and if linux becomes the "normie" os, then people would demand professional features for their paid os! it would be a win win for everyone! linux is there for 80% of people, we just need better publicity and more positive things to say about linux!

[@BernardoHenriquez]

I'd switched to linux in 2005 as my only OS wiping windows completely, and I'm still happy with linux, i use arch btw

[@CyrusBrinkworthRAS]

a list of books will be cool....

[@Wesfun]

i had a perfectly flawed installation, just the way i want

[@TrustJesusToday]

Mikey likes it.

[@aminvand]

I am always using it for my development machine and for what i do it is perfect. As i said, for what i working on. For some projects that requires C++ i will use windows and visual studio

[@philipcollier7805]

Linux isn't some kind of product, like Coca Cola or Microsoft Windows. It is a way of doing computing. Users can take their pick of whatever environment and tools they want. I don't get people's issues; Linux can do whatever you want if you're willing to find and install the right apps. Immutability is the new frontier, where you can run any apps on any distro, without conflicts.

[@Rbourk252]

W Patience and time is all it takes to settle into Linux

[@derekp6636]

eh pop_os still annoys me that the backwards and fowards button on my mouse don't work....and the audio glitches occasionally....other than that its been a fine debian based install.

[@1pcfred]

The forward and backward buttons work on my mouse. I have a Logitech G502 SE HERO Gaming Mouse. It's nice.

[@MegaLokopo]

If someone would put the work into making a store like steam but for non steam games and programs that only run on windows, linux would be far easier to use for new users.

[@noisycarlos]

Lutris is... Not that, but close

[@glowinthedark9082]

Even Steam games don't work on linux

[@infinitivez]

@@glowinthedark9082 99.7% of my steam library of 537 games, works on linux. And of the two that don't work, it isn't because the game won't play, it's because the anti-cheat programs refuse to work with linux. Maybe fix THAT.

[@lucolesco]

Heroic Games Launcher and Bottles.

[@MegaLokopo]

@@glowinthedark9082 not all steam games work but most do.

[@Xizax41325]

People change operating systems? Laughs in windows 3.1.

[@Account.for.Comment]

I don't think anyone expect it to be perfect, but they expect it to better. People who switch into it, expect or at least hope that it can replace Windows and Mac, considering the many evangelists from the Linux community promoting it like that. Since using it, it is better than Windows in some aspects, but definitely worse in others. For now, it can't replace Windows for some tasks. Still prefer my Linux computer for LibreOffice, basic browsing, and Visual Code, but for Printing/Scanning, Photo Editing, and other unexpected tasks, Windows still superior. Right now, I'm travelling. I have a beautiful LinuxMint installed in a Macbook2012 as my daily driver, and a crappy, bloated, slow higher-specs Windows 10 laptop just in case I need sth Linux can't do. Hopefully in five years time, it can replace Windows, but we can't expect most people to spend hours to figure out if a hardware can work. The more Linux can solve problems for its user, the more everyone can ditch Windows and the more the world will be happy. Having Linux certainly a boost to my mental health despite the efforts. Unlike windows, it hasn't bent destroying my mental sanity with bloatware I never use yet.

[@slebetman]

To be honest it's just getting used to stuff. I had a very hard time a couple of years back when I landed a job that forced me to use Windows. I literally couldn't believe how unusable modern Windows is. Last time I used Windows before that was XP and Win2k. Modern windows in very non-user friendly. I felt like the entire OS was a giant web browser. I can understand how difficult people find using Linux or MacOS if all they've used before was Windows from my experience trying to use Windows (in the end I did most of my work on Ubuntu on Windows running in WSL2)

[@psully311]

Ive seen this mentality over & over with the " I switched to Linux " videos, entire content of complaints, it don't work like what ever OS & in short it sucks.

[@uuu12343]

Gonna be honest here, after seeing the linux kernel team bs and their junior-senior elitism that happened recently - it may partly be linux if the development team is representative to the community

[@gimcrack555]

Linux is perfect. After you install a very good stable Linux(Debian Stable). With a few tweaks here and there. I get my perfect after I do that. My is stable and it works exactly as I want it to. You can't get no more perfect than that. Linux user since July 15, 2003. I'm currently using MX 23.3 KDE.

[@simonlauer9379]

tiling is what keeps me on linux otherwise I would go back to mac probably 😂 I am a dev, and mac is good for devs, but there is just no tiling (there are tools you can add to mac, but nothing comes even close) so linux got me no matter the pain sometimes 😅

[@raportmercado1165]

0:33 or for a fancy ai. but tell me about it, I'm installing my beloved openSUSE (Leap 15.6) on a refurbished lenovo mini, and in the midst of desperation a thought comes over me every time I install linux, "fuck this shit, I'm going back to windows" but calm comes back and everything works perfect. So, my friends, Linux is for patient people, just document everything you do, I recomend obsidian or some apps alike

[@rickdg]

Every operating system kind of sucks. The disadvantage of linux is that this is ultimately your fault. This level of control is also its greatest advantage. What linux needs to mitigate this issue is more options to pay someone else to fix your problems.

[@1pcfred]

Red Hat Enterprise Linux has entered the chat

[@BtZealot]

My issues has always been in burning ISOs. My laptop has been screwed up due to Rufus. But I'm looking forward to buying a computer from System76.

[@1pcfred]

On Linux I like to use schilytools. The stuff that ships with distros doesn't work for me. Jörg Schilling was a problematic individual but he knew CD burning.

[@M_T483]

Well many people who move to Linux and back to old os because they believed people who told them the good point of Linux but not cons of Linux. Ps most of Linux KZbinper more offer how good of Linux more than talk about problems of Linux too.

[@danieldover3745]

I've helped a lot of people move over to Linux and I see some consistent themes. Yes, Linux is not perfect, but neither is Windows or Mac, which is why they're making the transition. They're too expensive, or too invasive, or not secure enough, or whatever. For me, the kicker was windows did NOT do Docker (Don't tell me that it does Docker now. Breaking your Hyper-V to install docker is not "doing Docker"). So it's not that Linux needs to be perfect. The problem is that either Linux does not support a killer app someone needs (generally Office or some Adobe product, or possibly a specific game) and this is a deal breaker for the user or, more often, they have to change their flow. Suddenly, the buttons are different, or there's no Ctrl+Alt+Del, or the start menu is gone or moved somewhere else, etc. Things are different, and it takes time and practice to get past this. So what I see is generally a transition period where they're "trying Linux out" and learning how it works, and getting comfortable with it, and it's only after this (often very long period) that Windows or Mac pisses them off enough, and they're practiced enough, that they can make the hop.

[@edwinkm2016]

@@danieldover3745 technically windows is using a VM with Linux to support Docker. It is a Linux product based on cgroups and the Linux kernel. The desktop is a mess and will not change. Too fragmented (workflows, technical, frameworks) and no real commercial backing of real big companies. Everything is unpolished. Linux is a server OS and that usually works great.

[@derekp6636]

I will add, re-mapping the hotkeys to launch "similar" programs is a good work around

[@Burgo361]

I'm still having issues with multiple monitors etc. but I have even more issues with windows and on linux I can usually find a solution and once I do that it's done everytime I fix something on widows I get a few days before windows "fixes" what I changed. Like I commented on the other video though linux often makes people feel stupid and nobody likes to feel that way, it doesn't really matter if they are the issue they are going to get mad and lash out and if someone dismisses their issue they are going to rage and hate linux. I'm not sure that issue is fixable or if it even should be fixed, I don't tell people to use linux that sounds like a headache for me in the future, I do help people that are having issues of course but I don't want to be responsible for maintaining every computer that is near me

[@armedready1]

Tell the KZbinrs who try Linux and then insult the community because Adobe doesn't work.

[@no_name4796]

Yeah, basically all the biggest linux problems can be summed up as "big corporation XYZ do not want to support linux, because fuck you" Otherwise linux would be the standard today lol

[@jesushernandez3700]

my only comment is that it is genuinely possible that Linux just doesn't work for you. Linux is extremely flexible but like you said, it's not perfect and it's possible that your workflow really might not be possible on it. Pretty sure that's a fairly uncommon problem but it can happen and in that case trying to force a workflow that you're ultimately not going to like might make you hate Linux a lot more. In my case, about 90/95% of the software I use is available on Linux and for the most part I'd say I'm able to replicate my workflow quite well but something about it just doesn't vibe with me and I still prefer Windows for some things but I like Linux for others. I found that I enjoyed Linux more when I wasn't trying to force myself to like an environment I wasn't as comfortable in despite all my software working relatively well

[@cheako91155]

I think you misunderstand the nature of the statements. When someone says, in your words, "I can't do X?" or "What should I do?" it's functionally the same as asking "How do I do X?" Your idea that ppl are supposed to assume the answer to "How do I do X?" is always "Not now and likely not ever." Is below response, it's obviously nonsense. Everyone should always(obviously they should read the FAQ and some documents+google first) ask "How do I do X?" because every feature that exists today was once part of a development branch and even for things that aren't possible there is always a chance it is possible if they are willing to compile from source, install a module, change some setting, or visit some menu... Someone asking will never have any idea the status of any feature until after they ask. The idea that they should assume an answer without asking because it may look like they are complaining is a troubling state of things. In the case where someone has used gimp for 10 minutes and struggle to do something they could easily do in other software is an issue gimp support should be ashamed to admit isn't possible and for every new user support should have to go through the humiliation of "politely" admitting that this feature may not now or not ever be available or an appropriate response that's not taking one's own inadequacies out on others.

[@cheako91155]

Ohh I forgot to add my real thoughts... No, Just No, that's awful and you should be ashamed.

[@krokodilkroki181]

Sorry i mean Mr Mat if i am not mistaken.

[@Amaqse]

I don't expect perfection, i expect system not to die after an update. So fair all my linux jurnueys ended up in some sort of critical closures, usualy bot not limited to, assisted by updates. I was till yesterday praising Opensuse tumbleweed for its stability as the installation served me for over 6 months and then i got an update that rendered my system useless. All i get is my screen flashing on and off every 4-5 seconds indefinitely. Thats on most supported combo of Amd cpu and gpu . . .so yeah it ls linux

[@SecretlySeven]

Alright. Can we finally get into this photoshop stuff? There's a big split between people who say it can't never and won't then there is a group using it on Linux and saying it does work. Can you get with one of those people and finally get ONE answer on this. If it didn't doesn't and won't how the fuck is people using it on Linux.

[@CyrusBrinkworthRAS]

fore me, money was the key, and it works good fore me!

[@ittadakimaho]

well.. just to jump onto your headline for the vid: linux does give you all kinds of griefs depending on your distro. the issues will be different but you will have some. and quite some have some good or realistic user doable alternatives. yes, you kind of have to want to.. but given that different distros have solved most things already.. its kinda annoying that there is simply no distro where everything that have been fixed.. is put together there. and yeah.. with mac or windows people can look up their issues and usually get them solved somewhat easily. that does not work on linux still. and you should simply not blame that on the userbase.. its ignorant of why people have an issue with linux.

[@DarthVader11912]

09:53 He's speaking from experience.

[@matthewpepperl]

im using linux my biggest issue is one word NVIDIA!!!! NVIDIA!!!! NVIDIA!!!! amd is not a good alternative i do too much ai stuff

[@richardbaker4974]

Not perfect but it’s better than apple and windows in a lot of ways!! Plus the software is free!!

[@ekim4926]

Just a hunch but did you by any chance spent time on r/linuxsucks lately?