It's Ours: Here's Everything That's Wrong With The World's WORST Range Rover P38!

[@peterjanvanbijnen226]

I could not stop laughing ,

[@y_y_zed]

The “this is a parts car” made me snort. Well done!

[@PapaSeBakkie]

A terrible financial decision for Roman is a great video series for everyone else 🤣

[@aerynlovell4754]

Everyone in the comments seems to hate every Range Rover, so this vehicle is exactly what everyone expects. This vehicle will make everyone happy because people love to hate the Range Rover.

[@MrEnglischjules]

British crap... Junk...

[@volvo09]

Yep, everyone can say "see I told you so" or "what did you expect".

[@scandinavia6271]

To be fair here; TFL have developed a much more “fair” and “objective” view on Land Rovers - since the “3 bad Defenders” narrative hit the keyboard warriors of the Internet - which really was “unfair” as the L663 has proved fairly reliable so far. This P38 is from the BMW/Ford era and does not have the best reputation. I am kind of curious to see where this project goes!

[@jonathanlandon6076]

So the reputation is undeserved in your opinion?

[@Cloud30000]

It’s the inverse of the Toyota\Hilux phenomenon (because specific models and configurations are bulletproof and last forever, many people think every Toyota is indestructible and immortal).

[@Cloud30000]

You don’t need a new hub to replace a stud; I’ve broken plenty of them when the nut seizes. Just pop the old one out with a hammer and push in a new one for $10, then the pressure from tightening the wheel nut seats the stud in place.

[@TFLclassics]

That's a good tip - thanks!

[@biggamejim8216]

Yeah these guys specialty is more videos and not so much mechanical for sure. Most aren't though so no big deal. Sad part is they likely have a shop space that most of with wrench turning skills will never have.... See the videos skill is soo much more valuable in the end. They simply hire someone to sort it out and maka a video about it.

[@stevec5000]

On European cars the studs don't knock out, they screw in and out. They will have to get the seized part that broke off inside it screwed out before a new one can be screwed in.

[@veganpotterthevegan]

These guys don't even know the basics. They're superficial experts with a huge following.

[@veganpotterthevegan]

​@@biggamejim8216 they know very little about vehicles and can't drive either. It's hilarious that they're so trusted. Only in America...

[@quintonulm2435]

I know some people who have passed emissions with a bad SAI pump by clearing the check engine light after the car is already warm, and then taken it on a drive to pass all of the readiness checks and then passed emissions while the car is still warm. Secondary air injection only runs for the first 30 seconds or so on a cold start… so don’t let it cool down

[@Edmund_Mallory_Hardgrove]

A well-sorted P38 can fetch $10k-$13k. You snagged this one for $1k, so I'd say you got a steal! The interior looks great for its age. When it comes to car auctions, things usually sell for what they're worth. Whenever I see a car or truck selling well below market value, I just expect I'll make up the difference in parts and labor between it and a well-sorted one. The only way to come out ahead is to donate your own labor to fix it. You will never be able to pay someone else's labor cost and still come out ahead. The interior on this one looks like it's in great shape for its age. The headliner needs to be redone, but that's not uncommon for any 25-30 year-old car or truck. Sort it out, and with the miles it has on the clock, it's an $8,000 to maybe a $10,000 truck. So, you should have $5k-7kish of a parts budget to play with before you get into the red. Or you can go all the way and not worry about its flip price, and you'll have a pretty cool truck that's getting harder to find because people just aren't willing to keep them up. I'm lucky to live in such a rural county that we don't have emissions standards. I'd hate to live in a state that enforces urban emissions standards on its rural counties.

[@williamegler8771]

Park it in Union Station Sun Valley or the Civic Center in Denver with a "FOR SALE" sign and you'll double your money instantly. They are the ultimate status symbol in those neighborhoods! They are driven by semi-successful street pharmacists!

[@lonerider5315]

😂😂😂

[@Constabruity]

Classic vehicle of the undocumented pharmacist.

[@bobjakubik4381]

Fun challenge and not boring…and Roman clearly working hard to keep his grumpiness in check! Looking forward to updates on this one! I miss the days of headlight wipers!

[@Cloud30000]

Headlight wipers make sense with halogen headlights, but with LED’s you would need heated headlight defrosters or you end up destroying the wipers every winter and wearing out the motors every couple years.

[@TimeMariner]

Roman recently had hemmorhoid surgery, he has a right to be grumpy lol.

[@andymckane7271]

Happy New Year to the crew at TFL. Mahalo for entertaining so many of us who love four-wheel drive rigs and off-road driving. Andy McKane, 30 December 2024, Maunaloa, Hawaii.

[@ian0841]

Love the classic content on this channel. Keep up the good work guys.

[@TheBTG88]

Next on TFL - Water is Wet!

[@Jonatan_SE]

Tommy the mechanic, looks like a good car to learn on! You can't make it any worse. 😄 I think you should get Kase over and make it a joint fixer-up project. I can just image what he would think of this one, haha 😄

[@rebekahm4919]

Tommy the range rover bonnets locks onces its up thats a feature to lower bonnet you have to lift to release locks to lower

[@LafemmebearMusic]

it was a bit... oyeeee howd that go over your head...

[@DillonAuto]

You guys are something else. I enjoy the channel. And the regular channel.

[@TFLclassics]

Thanks! Glad you enjoy our content.

[@Land_Raver]

Dont make me come up there and fix everything over a weekend!

[@minusmartin]

ILL HELP

[@biggamejim8216]

clearly another of us who has been there and done that.... without a private shop with a very expensive painted floor...

[@Land_Raver]

@@biggamejim8216 It's painted black from oil and brake fluid.

[@mitchstein288]

You guys 😂 these cheap vehicles always bring a smile to my face. The best part about this is, you don't have to worry so much about dinging it up off-road. We're very used to you guys taking $85K rigs off-road and trying so hard not to ding them (I don't blame you, they're not yours). Is this going to be a cheap truck series? I love those 😂

[@aged7968]

Fun stuff! I don't want to start a Land Cruiser vs Range Rover thing, but my 2006 LC with over 200k miles looks almost new compared to your RR with just 160k miles! Everything works on my old LC, the carpets, leather, headliner are all still in great condition and the V8 runs perfectly (brakes work great too, but I needed to replace my ABS controller thing to be fair). Your Range Rover and my Land Cruiser are pretty much the same generation but the differences in longevity and quality are staggering. Happy New Year guys!

[@Zion-kk4ej]

Tommy fanboying all over it even if it is in such terrible condition

[@dmbassett]

This poor P38 has obviously fallen into the hands of folk who can’t maintain it and even worse, those who simply don’t care. Boy she’s had a hard last few years

[@OldThomMerton]

Roman, I did watch the original video . . . You were the one who kept upping the bid even when Tommy was saying that it wasn't worth it.

[@TFLclassics]

That was on the LR3

[@OldThomMerton]

@@TFLclassics Ah, yes. I was thinkng the LR3. - Tommy didn't wanna go over 1000.00 and Roman kept pushing it higher, finally to 1700.00.

[@workingcountry1776]

This needs to be an off road only build. Beat it, scratch it, have fun. Forget emissions or registration

[@kjsinsaino]

In NY when the car is 25 years old it doesn't need to pass emissions! My 2000 Disco 2 is good to go in two days!!! Only 3 years left till my 2003 Disco 2 can pass lol!

[@SunnynPhilly]

You can register any car in South Dakota without safety or emissions testing, only downside is you have to drive around on South Dakota plates.

[@vario2664]

If you own a Range Rover, make sure you have a second car.

[@abbasrizvi4953]

I love how a Rangey drives and feels on the road but I've seen some of my friends go bankrupt with them. We have tons of SVRs catching dust in our neighborhoods in Saudi. People just at some point give up on fixing them and sell them because no one wants a broken RR. I actually at one point was tempted in buying a later model that was still under the 5 year warranty from a friend and when I went to test it. It started misfiring and the supercharger heat exchanger had a leak that was fixed by the dealer. I walked away.

[@rgbigdog]

I think you can find a hose at the auto parts store or hardware store that can replace the missing hose. As for that electric fan motor find a replacement that would work in that box.

[@ehhjeep]

We had a Land Rover S2 Discovery. That thing broke down every August. after 4 breakdowns we sold it. I was very happy that August to see it leave on the rollback.

[@thebonefish]

Hoovie's going up market, fill the void!

[@samcocita7958]

My friend from England bought a new range rover in 2000 or so , he said that it reminded him of home, beautiful car and interior but was completely gutless and would regularly blow head gasket,

[@robertyoung8289]

My 07 Ford Ranger has 160k and its hard to tell it from new. 💪

[@petelattimer6808]

cruise control doesnt work because of the ABS/Brake faults. the radio isnt a Range Rover item, its aftermarket. windows generally you put them down, hold the button for about 3 seconds, then back to the top and again keep the button held for 3 seconds. the secondary air pump pipe thats missing, unless theres a sensor (not familiar with the US spec ones) it could be repaired with a simple chunk of rubber hose, snapped wheel stud can be bashed out with a hammer and punch and a new stud wound in using the wheel nuts. dont know what US prices are like, but im guessing the faults ive mentioned, if the brake master cylinder is $250, id guess the entire thing could be fixed for $400 of parts, unless the secondary air pump itself has also failed.

[@sallhame]

Well, if you buy an abused and neglected Range Rover, don't blame the factory and the car, blame the previous owners. It is still a phenomenal offroader, and when it was new, no other brand had a Traction Control even close to the Range Rover.

[@TimeMariner]

It was garbage when new.

[@bengarcia1091]

The Jeep Grand cherokee had a 100% mechanical traction control that could put 100% of the engine power to one tire if needed the same year as these. And it worked flawlessly!

[@SuperEjep]

I own a P38 4.6 and 2 x L322 4.4s and none have ever given me anything more than standard maintenance issues. I have also owned others in the past including classics and again, no major issues. Last year I drove one L322 from London to Prague and back with stops in Belgium, Germany, Austria and Holland with no issues at all, carrying 5 people and all their associated luggage. Having said that, I do regular maintenance myself, so if you buy a piece of unmaintained junk you need to live with it

[@bruceklassen8261]

Great reporting TFL

[@25Johe]

The secondary air pump is the same as on 525 BMW"s from the early 2000

[@ryt2carry]

I think Tommy should fix all the mechanical issues and paint the exterior.

[@LordSethrik]

Also replacing the wheelstud is a cheap fix, no need to replace the whole hub, just heat up the stud and punch it through, then push the new one in and a load of washers on the other side with a wheelnut, give it lots of ugga duggas and presto

[@TFLclassics]

Thanks for the great tip

[@donwhitehead4587]

The term: “Glutons for punishment” has never been more appropriate than for these folks.

[@TooLooze]

My 2005 RR was wonderful. I'm glad my work leased it for the year.

[@stonepa]

Great video. Those window sync issues are a simple fix. Same with the hood release handle. Gotta say, I love the paint patina on the RR. I would drive that all day.

[@roderickhance2088]

Roman, I agree, you were the one who kept upping the bid when Tommy wanted to stop 🤣🤣 But I like the idea of making it safe at least, then see what it can really do in Moab!! Budget off roader challenge!! Great content as always guys!

[@ribbit1964]

Hahahahaha! Roman went into this eyes wide open! But now we get to see a rover live up to rover stereotypes on TFL! I don’t know why I find this so funny! Thanks guys! Ciao!

[@TFLclassics]

We all love a good laugh with a Rover, right?

[@derrickschultz6871]

Bill Burr on his podcast just talked about how the guys on Top Gear used to piss on american cars when this is what the Brits are making. Bill used the Jaquar as an example.

[@seanguy9720]

Europeans just don’t appreciate unbolstered bench seats and column shifters like we do

[@sbGOM]

Well Jeremy Clarkson did say that reliability was overrated.

[@morstyrannis1951]

@@sbGOM if you have Jeremy’s income, and fleet of cars, that might be a valid point.

[@widespreadian]

The hood struts are made to do that. You push it back up to close it.

[@peters4144]

That's correct. Just don't lift it open from one corner and you'll never have an issue.

[@minusmartin]

there is one of those at a local junk yard. i could go take a look to see what is there of a list you make and i can yoink them and ship them to you! im down in el paso tx

[@carlosb6205]

I had one of these. Flooded it in a river. Ripped out interior, sent ECU for repair, put back together and worked like nothing. Obviously mine was better kept but I do not miss those classic interior chimes lol I miss the truck a lot.

[@tonyblackie3277]

Have a P38 and love it. By far the most fun to drive (on and off road) then most other LR products, and I've pretty well owned them all at some stage. EAS great and works most of time. Btw, bonnet (hood) needs lifting first before close. Great when struts a bit tired :) Also, grill plastic was never black from factory.

[@SunnynPhilly]

@TFLclassics You could probably register the Rangey in Utah at the Moab Condo you showed on the channel a while back, Grand county doesn’t do emissions testing. If that doesn’t work register in South Dakota.

[@LeesChannel]

It would be awesome to see a series on this thing getting fixed up, if it were economical. The Toby video alone would be hilarious.

[@LonnieC916]

Like the camera glasses Roman. You gave us a POV of the POS, HAHA!

[@27sport86]

One of the great things of living in an emissions testing free state. We can register anything and everything.

[@user-tb7rn1il3q]

You can register but can’t drive it very far.

[@Cloud30000]

Just have to put the money into savings instead of fixing the emissions so you can pay for your lung transfer later on

[@Land_Raver]

You need to replace the bulb in the AC display.

[@sock979]

Yeah I would just try and fix that stuff myself before replacing them. You know the brakes cylinder might just be a seal somewhere that you can just replace and you know you could use any hose. You don't need their hose. And again just you know take that air thing. I forget what it's called off and see if it's just something simple that failed on it that you can fix or replace before you go spending a bunch of money just swapping in new parts. I've done that on a couple of my cars and it turns out done some of them just to be something simple that you could just fix yourself so you don't even have to buy the new part. Also you might see if the park was used on another car that you can get cheaper if you buy it under that car stamp

[@mromatic17]

7:52 its kinda hard for an aluminium body to rust there homeboy. all land rovers are aluminium!

[@riverbedoverland]

Land rovers up to 2004 were aluminum. L322 and newer are steel body panels in places, along with lr3,4 and d5

[@Cloud30000]

Just buy a relatively decent one with a broken\missing sunroof and steering wheel, and combine the two to get a single good one for under $5k plus an outdoor guest bed to leave on the lawn. Might even be able to hardwire an on\off switch for the HVAC to get gas powered heat and AC in the guest bed.

[@TreatsOnTheStreets]

You don't need an oem hose for the SAP. Any hose with a few clamps will do.

[@PrincessTS01]

try some avalon king on the black plastic bits and i suggest you find a junk yard for parts on the RR

[@doddydwi9850]

Things you should know about this car are : 1. If you can find the right workshop, the repairs and maintenance are not that expensive. 2. This is NOT a city car, terrible in traffic and highway. But highly dependable on rural, off road and mountains. 3. It was built like a boots not shoes. Know what this are, you don't go camping wearing shoes just like you don't go to a wedding wearing boots.

[@Mr110V8]

Ive owned one of these since new. Today, i still own it, even though its not my primary, it is still one of the best cars ive owned. Its by faaaaar better than my LC 76. This is a bit of an unfair review. This was a revolutionary car, it has features that modern cars are getting only now. It has one of the strongest body construction of a vehicle i have seen. Its absolutely brilliant. And if you looked after them, properly; using genuine parts, very reliable too. Its easy to take a poorly maintained vehicle and pull the piss out of it. This vehicle blew all competition out of the water when it came to tech and off road ability. 1 gearlever for both high and low range. Sensational.. traction control, brilliant. Even the air suspension, when properly maintained, is good. I've got nothing but praise for this car. And i own a LC now. Not for any reason that i sinply needed a different tyoe of vehicle for my daily activities, and fuel consumption on the RR is through the roof. But its a brilliant, brilliant piece of kit. High part costs from LR made a world of Poor aftermarket parts, coupled with poor service from dealerships, at the time, killed thier reliability and hence, poor value. A vehicle at the forefront of technology needs to be recognized and praised.

[@Colinpark]

Yes the Dealer network and their part cannon philosophy to repairs has done more harm than the engineers ever did to their rep.

[@sallhame]

I agree with you. I had one for 8 years, and it took me through snow, rain, mountains many times. Probably the best car in the world with solid axels front and rear to drive. And an extremely good offroader. As an object for modifying, also very good.

[@sibij42]

They don't have a shockingly bad reputation for no reason.

[@Edmund_Mallory_Hardgrove]

They really aren't bad trucks. This one’s interior looks pretty good for its age. They are handsome, boxy rigs. If someone is willing to roll up their sleeves and do the work themselves, it’s worth the cost of parts to sort it out. The biggest problem with these rigs is they've gone through owners who thought they could just buy and drive them without proper maintenance. The same thing happened to the Range Rover Classic, but now well-sorted Classics can sell for upwards of $30k+. To me, the P38 looks like a proper Range Rover. I like the L322s as well, but they started getting a bit too posh for my taste-more luxury than truck. In my opinion, the new ones are a total travesty of what the brand used to be; they’re nothing but celebrity station wagons.

[@Mr110V8]

@@Edmund_Mallory_Hardgrove agree with you 100%

[@Lyallthetime]

Perfect body for offroading. Who cares about pinstripes on that. And mostly rust free. A thought, if the secondary air injector motor has burnt out, and it's a cheap project anyway, why not try to find a replacement motor. More faff, but I think it's probably easier and a heck of a lot cheaper to find a motor with similar voltage and power and make it fit compared to the entire assembly. And I'm sure an entire entertaining video can be done just with watching Tommy to that.

[@ATLOffroad]

Looks like you need to move to a state that does not require an emissions inspection. Should be fun to see what trails or adventures you end up doing in it. Maybe do the highest point in all 50 states like you did all those years ago in the Wrangler.

[@chrisw3771]

$1550? You paid that much? Second hand brake servo & cylinder in the UK is £150, the repair kit is £105.. (Bit of washing machine hose & a computer fan will fix the secondary ;-) ) Fun detail, When the P38 was launched there was a press day at the Solihull plant. A press car broke down at the gate, it's replacement didn't make the gate. The third one made it, the sunroof broke within a mile though.

[@paulstewart1626]

what an awesome car, looking forward to the coming updates.

[@mag2395]

New series watching tommy fix the range rover himself! I love your enthusiasm on your, wise investment! 😁

[@Hoktew]

I have an lr3 v8 SE and it's da bomb..looove it

[@spartanchirho]

Ya know....for 4600 kinda woulda been better to get that one. I personally would still enjoy that series of videos! I always wanted but never owned a P38 and would enjoy seeing a functioning one make it to Moab and do CO trails.

[@Cloud30000]

This will get far more views and thus easily earn more than the $3k difference, assuming they can keep the repairs really cheap.

[@jsdoogie]

The POV Cam was on the other side. Unless we were getting the POV of Roman wearing the POV glasses cam. 😀

[@JD-re7mj]

The POV Cam made me nauseous.

[@EBuff75]

You could always try the temporary, heat gun fix on the plastic. The gray will eventually come back, but it should look better for a while.

[@KT-ty3uh]

What would be interesting is take this to your local certified Range Rover mechanic and I want to see a full repair bill to get this car back to green across the board. That would be very interesting to see and understand.

[@mikeskelton9713]

Source your parts from "Atlantic British." You will save a ton. You got this Tommy. Do not buy parts from dealer.

[@ianscorey5293]

Unfortunately chaps I purchased a P38 in 1998…. It was a 4.6 litre HSE V8….. with all the goodie’s!!!! Come 2020 the Range Rover is stuffed!!!! Everything failed!!!! I maintained it…… but alas it was a bridge too far for Land Rover!!! And unfortunately l paid $90,000.00 NZ$ for it!!!!! Still got it in storage….. but don’t know what to do with it!!! Yuletide felicitations….. and all the best for 2025!!!! Regards Ian 👨‍🎤🇳🇿🥳🍸🍸

[@andrewb5415]

I mean, here in Nebraska where we don’t have emissions testing that would be a fun buy for sure

[@rtumash261]

Any "not set" errors area easy. When starting the rover, put window down and and back up. Repeating on every one and sunroof. Miss my p38s even though they had problems.

[@omostim2385]

You have to lift the hood all the way to close it. The strut locks in place. I know this because a bent one years ago when looking at a P38. Luckily the owner didn’t make me pay for that

[@stevekniess3665]

Thanks guys

[@BYLRPhil]

Great video TFL Glad I live in a state without emissions tests :-)

[@TFLclassics]

You are very lucky!

[@Cloud30000]

Our state didn’t implement emissions until around 2000; before that, anything would get stickered, but you often drove behind a lot of black smoke from people in barely running vehicles they bought for $20 until it breaks down, gets abandoned on the side of the road, and re-laced with another $20 vehicle. The condition a vehicle ended up in when it finally reached the junk yard was so bad that finding working parts was a nightmare you planned a day around digging, and most vehicles were crushed when they arrived to save space as there wasn’t anything worth preserving on the outside.

[@larryborn1082]

FYI, the CIVILIZED portions of CO( outside the Dnver/Boulder metroplex toilet) don't require emissions testing...... ;)

[@loupgarou1863]

I want to watch the video where Tommy is working on it and snaps yelling, “Why won’t you work!”

[@Powersproductions130]

There’s definitely no doubt they’re father and son. 😂😂 Every time they’re on camera together they’re always bickering about something. lol

[@Monstergamer-nn4bf]

The golden God would not appreciate the slander for this beautiful finisher car🦅🦅

[@westeed1]

Tommy referencing the trunk… I think it’s the boot if you’re calling the British mobiles hood a bonnet.

[@rob_lightbody]

It's actually really good, really solid, just neglected and lots of small things to sort. Nice colour too. Future classic.

[@lukethompson5885]

Hood strut locks in up position you have to lift it slightly to release it to lower it

[@urbo42]

Amazing, you bought a $1500 car and there are things wrong with it. I'm shocked. I have a broken leaf spring on my 2008 Ranger and am also devastated.

[@Jaxav8or]

That SAI pump looks like the same one from a new beetle. Hit up a pick and pull yard and snag one and wire it in. Screw the OEM hose just get some rubber hose and throw in.

[@neilbucknell9564]

You might try an internet search of UK breakers and specialist LR suppliers. I have no idea of freight costs to the US, but I'm sure you'll find lots of cheaper parts.

[@EcBuddy123]

Honestly, it looks like it has very few problems, most being cosmetic. Worth fixing/upgrading i think of you like the truck, which i think this one is with fixing up yo oem plus with a minor lift

[@Savenmi]

Can you try to test drive the Peel P50

[@kylethestyle]

You could drill and (left-hand thread) tap that broken wheel bolt, screw a bolt into your bolt, then unbolt the bolt.

[@ruk2023--]

Anytime any $1500 luxury SUV starts and runs I consider it a win. I had a grand cherokee with the same miles that was quite special. I never did figure out how it passed inspection in Rhode Island but it did.

[@RustyTreeMan]

I see Roman's point, they should have bought the next generation, the L322, a vehicle worthy of restoration, anyway good luck fellas!!

[@campingkillen]

Headlight Wipers or high preassure headlight washers were mandatory here in Sweden from the mid ´70´s up until the mid 90`s,

[@seanguy9720]

Interesting, explains why Volvo’s and Saab’s always had them. I always found headlight wipers neat. What caused them to revoke the mandate?

[@khakiswag]

New storyline for RR: part it out and see how much money you can make selling it piece by piece.

[@tomchaput2375]

That air pump was also used on many BMWs and I think Mercedes too. Should be easy to find a good used one.

[@stevestanton3083]

Tommy Mica... with power tools. Be afraid. Be very afraid. Although he has Case to back him up. lol. Tommy and Roman are in for a learning experience. Toby will say, "What have you done?" Good luck guys, you will need it.

[@peterbutlien1335]

I think you are on the right track. Do the $1500 safety work. See if you can get this to be a running, registered, semi reliable (relatively speaking) 4wd all in for less than six grand. I think that is an experiment we all consider, when we see these formerly expensive cars selling cheap, and wonder if you can turn it into something for less than you would spend for a decent used Corolla. All in at six grand would keep lots of people from driving boring cars!

[@UltimateCARNUT]

Ive always liked the way those look!

[@radanovics]

Go to a local junk yard and pull the parts, they are all priced the same no matter the vehicle. It will also teach you how to remove the brake master.

[@fritty9927]

Maybe Dave could use this as a farm truck😂

[@TFLclassics]

Yes

[@harlock7173]

Since it's a buick engine you might be able to source engine parts from GM/GM parts at the parts store.