It's Time To Say Goodbye To The Canon R7

[@KevinDeal]

Are you waiting for the R7II? Did you upgrade to something else? Will they have to pry your OG R7 from your cold dead hands? Tell me about it in the comments!

[@johnmatthews8338]

I shoot sports with an R6II / R7 combo. It's worth noting that the R7 with a 70-200mm f2.8 lens is about a third of the price of the 100-300mm f2.8 lens alone, and it gives a similar field of view (112-320mm equivalent), while being easy to handhold all day. And I think the mechanical shutter on the R7 is capable of 14fps, which is actually a little faster than the 12fps mechanical shutters on the full frame cameras. Love the ergonomics of the R7 (including the thumb wheel around the joystick), love that it has IBIS and dual card slots, and love that it shares the same LP-E6 series batteries with the full frame RF cameras. It actually feels like a professional tool to me. All I really want in an R7II is for Canon to put in a stacked sensor with a faster readout speed (6-7ms like the R5II would be good, compared to the slow 30ms of the R7). Rolling shutter in the R7 is pretty bad for fast-moving subjects, which makes the electronic shutter less useful for sports and wildlife. Being able to use electronic shutter on an R7II would be awesome.

[@KevinDeal]

Great points.

[@LittleOwlPictures]

07:15 @Canon, yes please keep the thumb wheel on top! I love the ergonomics on the R7!

[@KevinDeal]

Completely agree. What a cool feature. No idea why they abandoned it.

[@btecww]

I shot with the 90D and the Mark 6 mark 2 for years. Fond memories when I had very little paid work and shot for the our pleasure of it. I was sold on the R7 32 Mp crop sensor. Canon never supported the R7. It was treated like a bipolar middle step child. No decent native lens offering with an embargo on third party glass. For me analogous to great guitar and amp like Stratocaster played through a Deluxe Reverb a camera body needs epic glass. The R5 in combo with the 28-70mm while brutal to my budget was magic to my photo journey. R7, great singer with no band 🤔

[@KevinDeal]

I certainly think allowing third party companies to make super telephotos would have greatly helped sales of the R7. I think your point on lack of support is spot on. I happened to already have an R5 with nice glass but when I think of someone who saved up for this to be their primary camera, I can’t help but think that photographer wasn’t supported as well.

[@jeffwisener1378]

What's impressive is the cropped sensor R7 is mainly designed to be an affordable sports and bird photography camera, yet it adequately did the job of what professional photographers use for higher end full frame type photography in like in your usage. Canon, job well done! I shoot surf videos (Bali Surf Hunters channel on KZbin) and the R7 would be a perfect replacement for my older Canon M50. The cropped sensor becomes an advantage in this type of photography so my 400mm effectively becomes a 600mm. Because the R7 is high megapixel it allows cropping which is essential for my type of videos without as much quality degradation. In summary, the R7 still checks a lot of boxes for many photographers shooting on a budget.

[@KevinDeal]

You hit the nail on the head. It really can do some of the heavy lifting you'd expect a full frame sensor to do. I wish it was just one stop cleaner in low light. It also kind of shifted green a bit (the sensor). But I learned how to edit those RAW files in post. I'll but your R7 does an incredible job for surfing. Thanks for stopping by!

[@RogerZoul]

I must admit that having both the mark 1 and 2 of the r5, the r7 is the odd dog out. Those button layouts being different causes problems with my muscle memory. I have the 200-800 which means I can get to 800 mm in way that is easy to handle. Having a 600 f4 too, with the r7, I can get to 960mm FFE. Since I can still get good images with that combination (in limited applications), I may keep it unless another body appears which can match and best that feat! The rolling shutter distortion and weak mechanical shutter, which suffers from shutter shock, are the weaknesses for me with the r7. I have found a way to use the camera that meets my needs, but Canon must improve on the r7 because no one should have to tolerate the weakness of the r7 for the purpose of image making. So, Canon must fix this camera. I need to see a r7m2 that does not suffer rolling shutter distortion and has a usable mechanical shutter or a distortion free (within practical limits) electronic shutter. If Canon can do that I will let my r7 go for that model, but if not I will just keeping using mine in the limited way I use it now. It is paid for.

[@KevinDeal]

I got out of mine while it still had strong monetary value. But yes, the R7 ended up being the odd man out. The muscle memory change was definitely a thing, but so was switching between FF and 1.6. As a portrait photographer my 50 was my 85 on my R7 then the 85 was 85 on the R5. It's just easier to have them all be the same format. And the criticisms you have of the R7 are totally fair. After seeing how my R5MKII performs in electronic shutter, I have every reason to believe the ES on a R7 MKII will be excellent. Thanks for stopping by!

[@garymeredith2441]

Kevin you have made lots of valid points about the EOS R7 You are exactly right they need to come up with a Mk II version , I had an R3 but I decided to get rid of it , because the only camera that I really liked in the Mirrorless system was the R7 , I just hope that Canon will come up with a new version with the capability of a vertical grip , You did a really good video here Kevin .

[@KevinDeal]

Thank you! Hopefully they add a battery grip and get rid of the rolling shutter on the next version.

[@williamchan8866]

@@garymeredith2441 yes a battery grip is great and is invaluable in cold weather shooting. For example on my Xt-3 with grip with 3 batteries at -20C it only last about 4 hours, of course I’m frozen by then too.

[@YourBoyStevoVA]

I just got an r7 last week and used it yesterday on a photo walk. I absolutely love it and all the buttons and placements and all. Coming from the fuji world, the button layouts dont bother me. Great video

[@KevinDeal]

The button layouts on the R7 are the best part. Enjoy!

[@ww3688]

I am a nature photographer and the R7 and the 100-500L (160-800mm eff. FL) is my dream combo for birding. I have the R5 for everything else (except video), so I've never needed or bought RF-s glass. The combination of IS, IBIS, Digital IS and no 30 minute limit was my obvious choice for movie with my FF RF glass. The R7 has the highest pixel density in Canon's lineup... it has its flaws (read speed - rolling shutter and hunting focus in low contrast, IBIS wobble) but i've been able to produce award winning photos with it. That said, i can't wait for the R7ii so this gem can become my 2nd body for shorter FLs.

[@KevinDeal]

I think the MKII of the R7 would sell a lot of bodies for Canon if they fix those issues. It's a fine camera.

[@reez1598]

I bought mine few weeks ago. Decided between R7 and R8 but went for R7 bcs for cheaper price and had 2 SD card slots with longer lasting battery.

[@KevinDeal]

All great reasons to buy the R7. Thanks for watching!

[@rayspencer5025]

I love my R7's economics. I have no big problem with the crop sensor. I have extreme wide angle lenses and software that compensate for the crop and noise. The only thing I do get bothered by is all the settings and the setting combinations that don't work together. That sometimes makes me crazy. That said, I miss the quality of the RAW files that I used to get out of my 90D. They were amazing. However, my 90D had through-the-lens focusing issues that required tedious calibrations on each lens or in the camera for for lenses that didn't allow updating the lens firmware. Those same lenses all work perfectly on the R7. I also like to use the crop sensor to my advantage by using a SpeedBooster on my FF EF lenses. with a standard adapter and the SpeedBooster it is like all those lenses do double work. I can go for the normal crop effect for more telephoto effect, or use the SpeedBooster for more wide angle and more light gathering with a tiny boost to IQ.

[@KevinDeal]

I wonder if we will see a MKII soon.

[@gavinstratospherec453]

R7 is brilliant and now I have got used to the thumb wheel at the top, I wouldn't want it anywhere else. I wish Canon made a full frame with the R7's ergonomics but happy with the R7 for wildlife photography anyway....it is a total bargain for what you get for the price. Best value camera by Canon and possibly in the market as a whole.

[@KevinDeal]

Totally agree

[@bryantwalley]

The only thing that kept me from the R7 was no battery grip extension. Maybe mkii will fix that.

[@KevinDeal]

I hope so.

[@mvp_kryptonite]

R7 is a good camera but not stellar like everything else Canon has launched (R100 aside maybe). My wishlist for R7ii: eye control, bsi sensor, newer pre-shooting, battery grip, more customisation. 120 fps video with sound, full sensor raw videos. e6p battery and cf card slot. The new AI chip would be lovely too! Ok it sounds like a mini R5ii but why not! The 7 line needs to return to the heights it once was with the DSLR bodies. Iv got used to the app for gps and carry a small el100 speedlite since there is no pop up flash but no battery grip is silly.

[@KevinDeal]

To Canon's credit, they roll down the latest algorithms to their new bodies. So it's entirely probable the R7II would have better AF than the R5MKII

[@Pixelpeeps-69]

Great video! I shoot fuji xh2 and gfx 50r for weddings and events and I bought a canon r6ii and i was so surprised at the how much better the auto focus is on canon and now im thinking to just sell my Fuji gear and buy another canon r5mkii ? What do you guys think?

[@KevinDeal]

I decided to be on both systems. Fuji still has their colors. But Fuji is like two generations behind on autofocus. They really need to get their act together there.

[@btecww]

I think Fuji is the crop sensor king. I love their bodies and lens offerings. I shot a wedding with Fuji. The Autofocus is not as good as Canon but manageable. The image quality was great. IMO better than Sony and Nikon in color rendering. I would use Fuji for apc and Canon for full frame

[@KevinDeal]

@@btecww that's pretty much what I have done now that my R7 is gone. I still have a little R50 I use for around my You Tube studio when I need to do something quick for B roll. But otherwise, my only other crop bodies are a XH2 and a XT20 I converted to full spectrum infrared.

[@Pixelpeeps-69]

@@btecww that’s a good point absolutely spot on and I think I’ll still keep my Fuji xh2 and xt5 and canon full frame system too as both are awesome

[@Postosuchus]

As a true video/photo hybrid shooter, I REALLY hope Canon doesn’t move the video switch to the left side of the body on the R7ii as they did with the R6ii, R8, and now R5ii. When I’ve got my telephoto extended and braced with the left hand and decide a bird is doing something cool enough to warrant a video, last I thing I want to have to do is take that left hand off and completely ruin the framing. If they fix the “emergency” record button to be fully customizable that might be some consolation; did they do that for the R5ii?

[@KevinDeal]

When you ask if they fixed the "emergency" record button, can you elaborate on what you mean by that?

[@Postosuchus]

On the R7/10 (the cameras I have access to), if you press the red record button while in stills mode, it starts taking video but from a VERY limited set of options (no subject tracking, no high frame rates, etc.). I assumed the full frame contemporaries did the same?

[@KevinDeal]

@@Postosuchus gotcha. Yes. My R5MKII does do that. Whatever settings you save in C3 mode in video are the settings it will use when you do emergency recording mode. So it is customizable on the R5MKII.

[@gardenstatemusicians]

I'm in! Ty

[@KevinDeal]

Any time

[@ORWELLGEORGE-r6i]

Some youtubers "celebrate" with the Z50 ΙΙ 🥳🥳🥳. I am using Nikon and i am wondering where are the Z80 and the Z90 ?

[@KevinDeal]

I love Nikon. I don’t own any but have used them. They make a fine camera.

[@ORWELLGEORGE-r6i]

@@KevinDeal I own Nikon D5600,D500,D850 and Z 8 , but I have the impression that Nikon is targeting beginners and specific professionals, and this annoys me a lot.

[@jameslong1540]

I hope for a Canon R7 Mark 2 with battery grip. R5 M2 and R7 M2 is the way to go.

[@KevinDeal]

Yeah, I never understood why Canon didn't make a grip for the R7. No real logical reason to do that. Thanks for watching!

[@noob.168]

im guessing u no longer have it?

[@KevinDeal]

Correct.

[@noob.168]

@@KevinDeal does r7 have good autofocus for planespotting? I did see you had one photo of planes.

[@elliottoland]

Not even a year after i buy my r7 and i already see healdines like this 😭. I really like it tho, and a mk2 would be cool. (Not that i could afford it)

[@KevinDeal]

My reasoning definitely wasn’t because I didn’t think it was a good camera. Just have two R5’s now. Want them to match.

[@elliottoland]

@@KevinDeal yeah i watched that and made me feel better. But still always a panic after you sink the money and see this sort of thing. Happens with me and computers all the time

[@KevinDeal]

@@elliottoland there may very well be an R7 II coming out in the next six months, but the original still has excellent technology in it. Nothing to panic about.

[@elliottoland]

@@KevinDeal yeah, I do really enjoy it.

[@MattMurddock]

Panic. It's a basic cam.

[@stellarojas9706]

I will be glad to take it off your hands. You can GIFT it to me. 😂

[@KevinDeal]

I want a free R1 while we're at ait

[@williamchan8866]

You really sure the rotating thumb wheel will be gone….you’re testing the new version already? 🙂

[@KevinDeal]

I don't know if it will be gone in the R7 MKII. I am not testing it. My point is that this is the one and only model where Canon tested it but didn't pass it over to the R6MKII and the R5MKII. I'm just guessing that if they didn't pass it to those cameras they won't have it on the R7 MKII. It's a guess on my part. I have no evidence outside of the fact that they didn't adopt it on other models.

[@n0gps1]

I’m still trying to figure out why my farts stink

[@KevinDeal]

Probably the cabbage

[@n0gps1]

lol 😂

[@melissas4874]

Titles like these are not good for beginners since they think FOMO is valid. People will now go out and dump their cameras while the lens is what matters most. 14k views and only 60 comments? You are either very wary of any critique or you pay for bots. Yes, removing comments, even negative ones, will make you look like you are botting or just not a strong content creator. Strong creators take the bad with the good and they don't bot views.

[@KevinDeal]

lol what? If someone dumped their camera because they only read my title but didn’t actually watch my video, that’s their problem. I clearly explained in the video that the R7 was a good camera and I had a specific reason for letting it go. As far as bots are concerned. I don’t know the first thing about even where to start. I have no idea how any of that works and even if I did, I have better stuff to do with my time. I don’t remove negative comments. I’ll prove it by leaving yours.