It's Topical | "Kill the Boer chant": EFF and AfriForum face off

[@LukanyoWelaani-kq7fm]

Our first mistake was to forgive people who have never asked for forgiveness

[@jackdaw6359]

Eternal victimhood.

[@sakhilemagwaza5873]

I agree. This song is still relevant bcz look at them.

[@luzukombuqu4976]

​@@jackdaw6359what do you want them to do? Singing songs of praise for those who stole, abused and killed them?

[@jackdaw6359]

@@luzukombuqu4976 I honestly don't know. Since the EFF can't do anything without handouts. But perhaps they can see why Asians and European societies succeeded even after terrible atrocities were committed. All while not singing songs of revenge. Not singing a song about killing is always an option. I know it is a wild idea for those filled with hatred.

[@collenmabuza1357]

I fully agree with you this people are taking us for ride

[@sandileduma1590]

Afriforum has a funny way of uniting people. They went to court to fight for the display the old SA flag....funny folk these ones

[@deonloots3274]

He would have stopped those chants a long time ago if his attitude was different. He will not work people up if he meant differently.

[@Tinker8531]

Same way Malema has brought the sympathy of the West to White South Africans. Before that they dismissed them as moaners. The newspapers abroad were likening Malema to Hitler, especially when he stood on the podium with his hand out like Hitler. If I was White, I would thank Malema. They will not have to go in dinghy boats to the West and try to convince them their asylum claims are genuine. Malema made it genuine for them.

[@shafiyaalgiquadra1105]

A feeling of entitlement.

[@Neo_Rain146]

Be quiet. You lost the right to get offended when you threw a fit about hair shampoo

[@Pops_cxxl]

That’s crazzyyy🤣🤣

[@biko8229]

EFF is no longer just a political party but it has become an institution of black excellence.

[@keigh-otic8034]

And black consciousness

[@biko8229]

@@keigh-otic8034 Certainly they are the leader of society on many pertinent issues affecting black life, the 1 million+ members should each take 10 friends to the voting station next year. ANC has sold out the revolution.

[@JeshuaOurGod]

An institution of racism and Satanic tendencies

[@heroldmathebula3902]

Biko is proud of the EFF

[@effortngwenya4937]

Volume plizzz! A refined institution

[@bazillazee9414]

It's laughable who people always refer to Mandela, EFF doesn't have any pre-arrangement with Mandela

[@tsepoconfidence6184]

EFF filling the FNB stadium has become a thorn in flesh of EFF haters both Black n White 😢

[@justhumble1]

The problem with us as black people is to forgive people who never asked for forgiveness and this useless Ubuntu thing, until inequality is solved there will be no rainbow nation

[@siyafaith5615]

It's a lie, we had codesa in this country and apologies were said. What will sorry DO YO YOU OR FOR YOU anyway????? I'm black by the way.

[@johnsmit7203]

And that forgiveness that is sought will be in the form of...? Please let me understand what is needed for us to move beyond this point to a more positive and uplifting future.

[@johnsmit7203]

Problem is, to destroy inequality you need all races to pull together. This will not happen whilst people (like Malema et al) are still singing / believing in those words.

[@nedor64]

There will never be a rainbow nation in any way. Inequality can also never be solved it is about ability, culture, and intelligence.

[@sibongilemolale3431]

@@siyafaith5615 Uyislima

[@sonofman9404]

A guilty conscience will make you claim your life is in danger because you fear revenge for what you did.

[@comitatus5337]

What rubbish! Most whites still alive in this country had nothing to do with apartheid. Must we persecute Germans today because of what happened 80 years ago? How long are you going to use the apartheid crutch to blame others for your failures.

[@froloejoe9081]

Rubbish what white man ever gunned down a black father who was shielding his wife and 2 little daughters from the bullets of an AK 47, tell me ONE such incident, you disgust me

[@unlockingourvoices832]

They behave the same way in the United States, the minority culture of the world, white Europeans.

[@michaelangelo6396]

On point brother, on point 🤙🏼🇹🇹

[@janineroux2398]

Revenge is the real issue here

[@ntsakomudungasi3374]

This is the greatest presenter at SABC I rilly respect him with how he question.😊

[@jasonharts6994]

EFF has dealt with him before.

[@rokkofages]

The ANC has betrayed the indigenous South African people. Black people, make Malema your president & restore your dignity. Btw, this EFF spokes person deserves an award.

[@turmoil4360]

Indigenous people of South Africa....now who might that be?

[@rokkofages]

@@turmoil4360 All Black People who hail from the African continent. Go read your history books. Thank you

[@sibongilemolale3431]

where did you come from axactly?

[@sibongilemolale3431]

@@turmoil4360 Where did you guys come from, and why cant you go back there, you are not wanted here, you were never invited and your stay has been painful for us, It would be justice If you just left peacefully.

[@rokkofages]

@@sibongilemolale3431 I understand you are pained due to what our people have been through in the hands of the colonialists & invaders. But let’s accept & show love towards everyone identified as a South African no matter their race. But there must be an equal distribution of the Country’s rich resources & vast land among all the different races. It is so unfair for the economy to be highly dominated by the white minority even after political freedom in 1994. It’s also very painful to see black people living in terrible conditions in one of the world’s richest Countries. Let’s show love to all but let there be fairness & justice to all races. Btw, I’m a Cameroonian but I closely follow SA’s politics & I believe the EFF and Julius Malema are the best thing to happen to Africa in our generation. The economic liberation of the indigenous SA’s will send a strong message to the whole continent of Africa & bring about a revolutionary change. Thank you!

[@charlesladu6195]

This EFF spork person speaks like a machine 😂😂😂 350 words in 30seconds 😂😂 He wins n he will always win 🏆

[@thabangmilles]

Just like their Leader🤣👑

[@olafnilsen1641]

Still a rascist though

[@rinaevans9705]

Bs is cheap and easy. Flowing like the sewerage in the townships.

[@sengamemela3720]

@@rinaevans9705 great comment..may be this is the reason why they continue to sing the song...???

[@waltertazvi9942]

robot that one

[@annahkhechane5239]

I still want clarity here,Malema never sing alone at FNB stadium.Over 130 000 were chanting too, why Afriforun & DA not open case against to that number ???

[@marabunya]

They know they can't do anything. So they go after the head just to gain cheap points on the road to the 2024 election.

[@xxvolution]

😂😂😂😂😂130,000 individuals

[@froloejoe9081]

130 000,01 parasites

[@niphodladla4385]

😂

[@lizaortegadecordero7680]

​@@froloejoe9081does matter. Can you rally 2 people for an event? Tsuuuip

[@wesleybaartman4601]

Many people saying that the song is dividing us but we are still divided since the forces removals

[@bandilemichaelncoyini9179]

Racism needs to be addressed in our country. So is the land issue.

[@RUTHLESSambition5]

It needs to be taken up a notch. Love that song

[@tobolee6385]

Lock n load.....

[@eltonlewis4979]

let them leave, black africans should get rid of them from the continent

[@vthomas2482]

YUP

[@doesntmatter8093]

I agree with you. We need to ban BEE, give back the 51% of businesses we did nothing to build, scrap the racist water quota, ask the anc and eff to employ more than just blacks, get informal traders to start paying tax and convict the illegal electricity connectors.

[@masonwabendabeni485]

Sinawo is in a league of his own❤

[@gm.Observer]

Thank goodness for that because no one else should be this racist.

[@imatanyani]

👍👍👌👌💪💪👏👏

[@zarinekaur]

A league of bigoted genocidal delusion while his big fat belly is full with the farmer's food 😂

[@clementmaduna2478]

Do they know how we feel after watching Sarafina? Yet we haven't killed them.

[@qhamkilemathenjwa6553]

They have no idea

[@sandilehlophe4218]

😢

[@luckyngobeni2875]

For me it's the calmness of the presenter, he is impartial 😂😂😂

[@NC-pj6uq]

I have hope, so much hope in our country listening to young man like Sinawo

[@gm.Observer]

SA has zero future, like Zim and most other African countries. I guess if one is happy with very low standards then no power, no clean water, no post, bad telecoms, no law and 24000 murders, then you may be hopeful. The place is a sh&^-hole.

[@herbertduplessis8967]

He will sell you into slavery for a photo of a new BMW.

[@blkhistorydecoded]

The song brings up their struggle. I've noticed that outsiders, particularly White people, want us to forget our history.

[@billyb7469]

Do you know South African History

[@billyb7469]

Your Panel was one sided

[@blkhistorydecoded]

@@billyb7469 Do u? Are you accusing the Black South Africans of lying about their history?

[@sibongilemolale3431]

@@billyb7469 you are so arrogant

[@sibongilemolale3431]

@@billyb7469 no, its just called defeat.

[@paulnbarros1400]

How old is the song and how many murders has the song incite ? Afriforum wants to contain the current status quo. There's no future in the South Africa if the social inequalities are not discussed honestly...

[@EuroAfrican]

You might not like the answers if we start asking the question of why there is so much inequality.

[@paulnbarros1400]

@EuroAfrican I would love to hear your honest response on social inequalities, and please don't base it on corruption because that's not the major factor we all know it, but the very system that created the song that you all are about.......

[@EuroAfrican]

@@paulnbarros1400 it boils down to dysgenic breeding and a *massive* gap in IQ between blacks and non-blacks.

[@ayantrambaran2532]

if the lyrics was reversed and instead of boer it was black the amount of time to get it banned and the person singing it to be in jail will be as fast as eskom implements load shedding

[@RetroRewindNostalgia]

YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND CONTEXT , REALLY SLOW PEOPLE LIKE YOU ARE FUNNY

[@readisgooddewaterkant7890]

​@MightyBlackPanther the same thing is said about the word n☆gger

[@zulu9357]

Where does Afriforum get these people to represent them? All these people are failing any debate dismally, looks like the brandy and coke story true...🤣🤣

[@niphodladla4385]

They only know to plant potatoes

[@emmatsebe1468]

Lol I thought so too,they very bad at debating or reasoning 😂😂😂😂

[@dumisanid8733]

This is a whole CEO

[@biko8229]

@@dumisanid8733 😂😂😂go figure, afriforum is irrelevant broe

[@maryduplessis2510]

​@@niphodladla4385yes, and guess what, you eat potatoes everyday produced by those very farmers you would love to kill, and it isn't just white farmers you are killing. A farmer produces food for all races. When you can't find potatoes on the shelf of your local supermarket do some introspection.

[@styvoll2004]

Let's also talk about the ridiculous systemic poverty our people have been subjected to. We cannot make such a big deal about a chant and not talk about economic depravity experienced by black SAs. This is the time to talk about everything. Let's put everything on the table, including land issues.

[@fillipfrance7403]

Whose fault is this systemic poverty? It is the ANC’s fault. But the people in poverty keep on voting ANC.

[@siwakhilemazibuko7979]

The issue of economic apartheid really needs such attention!

[@siwakhilemazibuko7979]

@@fillipfrance7403 Apartheid is the cause of poverty and not our fellow black people in government. They stealing from the government because they do not own the means of production, if they did they wouldn’t harmer the government!

[@Tinker8531]

SA has gotten worse rather than better, whose fault is that. we would need a new struggle song against our corrupt leaders.

[@shafiyaalgiquadra1105]

​@@fillipfrance7403I am here for people like this.😊

[@sellosehlaga8590]

Superior logic wins again 😊

[@jameskillu9171]

Sinawo should be the minister of defence when EFF win in 2024

[@Bee-dp3st]

@@jameskillu9171🙏🏾

[@gm.Observer]

Correct, Kriel was far superior.

[@niphodladla4385]

​@@gm.Observerlol the guy only knows to plant potatoes, pure illiterate

[@niphodladla4385]

The destroyed this one here 😂😂

[@pulekuali9056]

We made a mistake by forgiving people who were never sorry. When they said kill them they literally did it. This song was sang way back but we never acted on the song but I believe if it was them they would do it without any hesitation.

[@mutanazublond4391]

It's not too late

[@pops2125]

Sorry for what.

[@marcone123ish]

You've never forgiven

[@mtblover]

​@mutanazublond4391 not too late for what?

[@DummyNkhosy]

Big mistake we did bro Now they even want to convince us that they're innocent

[@naphtallymohlala4238]

There's this song which was sung by EFFSC that says "aso thenga mayeza s'bulal' izinja" referring to SASCO. Why didn't it make such an uproar?

[@nomazizizembe8662]

This people are jelous of eff

[@judithmuna1068]

Coz they ain't white

[@zulu9357]

People talking about let's go forward, forward where? Oppressors will never change, America is a perfect example of how these oppressors feel and treat dark skinned people

[@sibongilemolale3431]

Guys, we can defeat this white cancer, we just got to be willing to do it at any cost

[@CosmicAlchemistt]

Broski... These people have absolutely no shame. None whatsoever.

[@samporter5258]

Are you talking about the dark skinned people you enslaved and put on ships or the ones we've had as president, Vice president, Attorney general, senator, congressperson, sports star, music star, movie star? Asking as an American where we outlawed slavery 150 years ago. Oh, and the whites in South Africa never had slavery? Just built farms where nobody lived while you ate bugs. And now you want what he built. Got it.

[@ZulumanNdodana]

But what even made you debate a EFF spokes person? you wont even win a debate with their student command,those guys are brilliant

[@elialvah]

White arrogance. Kriel had no notion of the brilliance of the person he was going to debate because he thinks his white skin automatically renders views factual, morally correct & more compelling. This is despite all research, crime statistics and judicial findings. Their delusion of supremacy is their number one enemy.

[@SonOfTheSoil834]

Very intelligent

[@wahwah7701]

They thought it was only Malema who is intellectual but turns out the whole EFF party.🤣🤣✊🏾✊🏾✊🏾

[@levikalombo1630]

​@@wahwah7701thats the only difference between EFF and ANC. ANC don't have educated people. They not in universities.

[@promotererasmus6018]

The guy wearing a EFF Tshirt is thinking outside the box, his an intellectual being.🔥🔥♥️

[@ButchLesterLester-kp8no]

He's a racist

[@lebraa9233]

Its Bunch hypocriet radicale non brain washed 🤑🤑

[@flyboy496]

🤣🤣🤣Intellectual😂😂😂

[@lebraa9233]

@@flyboy496 flyboy Sorry intellectuele their are not so rude these are hooligans insulting other Politicians to think they have troon as Lions 🤣🤣🤣🤣👎👎

[@marcone123ish]

Every Fools Fellow. You've been duped

[@onwabantlanti6734]

Afriforum is very vocal in the lyrics of a song but can't be vocal on the injustices that befell black people in the hands of their ancestors. If we are removing this song as a struggle song than it means we remove every struggle song that has been part of the black person's history. It is no secret that we still live as oppressed people and the only thing that can correct this is if all the injustices of the past are fixed.

[@Hellstothenaw]

Oh please...whyte ppl did more for your ancestors than you will ever be able to do. Look at SA now. You are just useless and full of hate.

[@Sburah]

Senawo is a verbal slaughter 😅😂 a hitman, EFF is our future ❤

[@mkhuselimazungula6345]

They must tell the UN. Talk about why these songs exist at the UN.

[@CritikillACClaimed]

Starvation is your future. I hope your little brain can comprehend that

[@Hellstothenaw]

I really hope the EFF wins. The faster this country will fall and then u will be forced to eat each other again.

[@rrsp60]

The future of your misery. There will be an outflow of capital if that party wins an election.

[@docaz9453]

​@@Hellstothenawwe will eat you first 😂

[@PremiumMusicOdyssey]

Brandy and coke drinkers are catching smoke 😂😂😂

[@MasonwabeM]

Red heart and coke🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@lebraa9233]

Splifftv9089 with your pleasure Brandy, coke, smoke cocaïne abnormale destroying the Country its mess we going to stop buying yours producten all over the World

[@lebraa9233]

@@MasonwabeM madonwabem many pleasure with coke, cocaïne a Bunch adoratie hooligans destroying the Country altogether 😭😭

[@zaneg6857]

😂😂😂😂

[@toribabe1000]

I'm black Zimbabwean drinking brandy nd coke whilst watching 😅 enjoying the roast

[@Nhlezee]

We’ve been separated long time ago, they all pretending we know the truth they never loved us.

[@njabulobonisanani5234]

What I like about EFF is that you have to be capable to be in position

[@jameskillu9171]

Sinawo should be the minister of defence when EFF win in 2024

[@Sir_Pixels]

​@modiehimokoena7187 any proof of sinawo doing violent act

[@Godiraone_Tlharesengwe]

​@@modiehimokoena7187How did you get the conclusion of violence! Being vocal is not violence, remember freedom of speech is our human right?

[@TheQuest888]

A capable red cockroach

[@ZomziWeAfrika]

@@modiehimokoena7187khuluma ikaka

[@thabisosamsam7054]

Let's give flowers to our spokesperson 😂

[@zn6471]

🔴🟢⚫

[@nomazizizembe8662]

Viva eff

[@kamogelomuriel3572]

They are saying that the country must move forward from the past and people must get together but they do not want to share the land.

[@velaphithewarrior6498]

They're even building a white only town called ORANIA ...but Thina we must think about moving forward together?? How do....these people make me sick man

[@jackdaw6359]

​@@velaphithewarrior6498Orania was already taken once. Bought again

[@RSVPrr]

@@jackdaw6359 What are you on about?

[@jackdaw6359]

@@RSVPrr just stating that their land was repossessed already. They bought it back from claimants of that land who happily accepted the cash.

[@SA_PASF]

Country must move forward is a code word for get over it

[@aginn9506]

Has anyone in our country noticed the correlation between less farmers due to murders and farmers emigrating to safer countries, and the price increases of our basic and regular and luxury foods. We pay extremely high prices for food

[@luiscoutinho1139]

When food is in short supply they will complain of "white sabotage"...

[@F-A7]

No not at all. The cost of living and food is up due to the Ukraine and Russia war nothing to do with some lousy privileged white farmers moving to a ''safer'' country. What those farmers can do African farmers can do better. If you think South Africa is not safe for you maybe you should start thinking going back where you came from?

[@michaelmthembu7609]

😂😂😂That nonsense he make him to drink water because heater attack was attacking him herrrrrr bro

[@johntloti7065]

I so was wishing for him not getting a heart attack on the show...would like to know if he is alright though.

[@urbnctrl]

HAHAHAH HOE DIE BOER IS, DIS HOE HY SY GASTE VERTROU! #KISSTHEBOER

[@harrismatjomane4234]

😂😂😂I saw him

[@BBSF88]

You’ve got to love Sinawo. Brilliant he was.

[@marabunya]

He's got me in stitches. He totally ripping this old white man apart. Its sad to watch.😂

[@MsLUFC]

@@marabunya A lot of hate in your heart

[@marabunya]

@@MsLUFC So its hate when white CEOs shown they can't reason? And its exposition of corruption and inferiority when black CEOs are shown to fail to reason. Haha. Different rules for different races huh.

[@Zamanda333]

Please have the same passion to fight the murders happening in twonships every day if indeed you are for equality and unity Afriforum

[@maryduplessis2510]

But they do. It is just not widely publised simply because it does not suit the ANC to do so. Don't be dribbled by politicians and unless you take the time to do the actual research you won't know better.

[@JSepa]

They do, the media just don't show it.

[@Zamanda333]

@@JSepa where? 10 marks

[@turmoil4360]

senzo

[@sibongilemolale3431]

@@maryduplessis2510 Please.

[@azikiwez126]

The land question is nonNegotiable

[@sekanamoatlhodi51]

Not singing struggle songs its like saying school must stop teaching History

[@JeshuaOurGod]

Big difference between struggling and entitlement

[@zoltanmeszaros7222]

Forget struggle songs ...educate the ignorant masses. The last 30 years the whole country has been struggling. ALL CULTURES/TRIBES.

[@moshebgr8]

​@zoltanmeszaros7222 that struggle didn't start 30 years ago. It started in the 1600s when the ill hearted ones got off their ships and forcefully took what was not theirs. Later, they used regulations to keep natives from taking back what was taken from them.

[@judithmuna1068]

They have already started advocating for it because they want to push the agenda and the misrepresentation of our history, they will tell us to forget about history while they never forget about the importance of keeping the ill gains of Apartheid. Disgusting behavior

[@jongikhayabam2505]

True.

[@RebirthofZion28]

The problem is that our South African experience as Blacks and Whites is so different that we are unable to relate to simple basic things/concepts.

[@Sticknbkid]

Probably best comment I have read on this issue. We have deeper issues.

[@CosmicAlchemistt]

Thats a BIG fact. Most whites in this country live in a huge bubble of privilege and they wanna act like they have a proportional amount of poor people compared to us. All these propaganda videos you see on YT about 'white slums' are trying to paint a false narrative that poverty in SA is proportional across the board which is straight 🧢

[@CritikillACClaimed]

Exactly. Our cultures are completely different.

[@Qotha]

we are simply incompatible

[@debranduati2830]

Then they should vacat coz the owner has the final say

[@phetogodingaan270]

Sinawo is King✊🏽

[@olafnilsen1641]

Of kfc

[@user-of9of]

He is a barbaric subhuman

[@tumiwilson7482]

​@@olafnilsen1641 Racist chest pain

[@olafnilsen1641]

@@tumiwilson7482 better than heartburn from all that KFC. Do you see that boep?

[@zn6471]

@@olafnilsen1641 that is all you have left. Insults over chest pains 😘

[@RichardGumede_07]

That brandy and coke line finished me 🤣🤣🤣

[@allbutperfect]

It was perfect 😂

[@th-rd2xh]

Spelling 😢

[@pulekuali9056]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@aiollieshalton1480]

Its true 😂

[@blessedchibaya378]

White guy even laughed on that line

[@dakalomatambele9106]

Why is it that the oppressor want the oppressed to forget his history, his struggle for freedom? What has happened?

[@truth-Hurts375]

They think they did nothing wrong...thats why.

[@shafiyaalgiquadra1105]

​@@truth-Hurts375well said.

[@happysquirrelwhats-tube8768]

I think Mandela protected them for too long and they thought we have forgotten

[@biko8229]

@@happysquirrelwhats-tube8768 Absolutely and we are not Mandela.

[@RendaniNetshirungulu]

How possible that an oppressor want to tell the victims how to remember the things he did to them

[@keidaniel8494]

EFF are the oppressor. Wake up.

[@ayandambatha6516]

Great presenter from the SABC 👏

[@lebraa9233]

Ayandambatha its look like a sciencefiction the publiek which dont have respect to each others they interested in Destroying they Country its mess up soon óf later they will have biggest problem With Financieel

[@AzzyDlamean]

True, seconded 👏👏👏👏

[@lebraa9233]

@@AzzyDlamean Thank you for your reaction at least you one understanding top 👍❤

[@marlonhypo5326]

That presenter looks like a snake ,I Might be wrong

[@marlonhypo5326]

This White guy is frighten the blacks will take revenge,he wasn't frighten when they were killing black people

[@ColinRamogale]

I wish one of the DA members could sing the chant to remind white people that we are in South African. This chant is synomimous with black history and our struggle as a people.

[@chrislegend9803]

kill the Boer is a struggle song,if you suggest another interpretation then suit yourself

[@neliswashange4000]

Sinawo Thambo, So eloquent, logical & sound.

[@mukondimatumba1803]

Big ups to the host for an unbiased line of questioning and the heart felt conclusion 🙏🙏

[@lebraa9233]

Very with wise nose EFF very rude as Malema bah maffia's to destroyed whole SA ☹️🤑

[@mukondimatumba1803]

@@lebraa9233 Quit weed🚬

[@InvestmentLefutswe-zf6qy]

​@@mukondimatumba1803😂😂😂😂

[@ThabangMotaung-o2l]

Matured

[@lebraa9233]

@@ThabangMotaung-o2l Matured a bunch of Hooligans running the Country with Violences ☹️😭

[@imdee9024]

THE CRIME IN SOUTH AFRICA is ALL the proof we need that people are taking the song literally. FULL STOP!!!!!!!!!!

[@SandileNtombela]

Lol "Nelson Mandela wouldn't like this " sweetheart Nelson Mandela's feelings and likes or hatred doesn't represent the feelings ,likes or hatred of all Black people in particular and South Afticans at larger.

[@EmmanuelMoela]

Hey, I found that VN problematic but I reckon it's a farm worker threatened with a job to make the VN

[@momelezindleleni4798]

😅 This lady thinks we live to impress Mr Mandela.

[@Masibigirigudani]

Yes, she's right cz nelson mandela don't care about Black's only White's

[@Userde989]

We don't live for Mandela ,we don't own by Mandela

[@maryduplessis2510]

​@@Userde989fortunately only 10% of the voting public agree with your sentiments. To think you get chest pains over shampoo 😂😂😂

[@labaniandy4266]

Seems like afriforum will never change, their members always tend to speak out of emotions instead of logically making their point, carrying their racist entitlement everywhere they go.. Any EFF member can easily destroy these guys when it comes to a logical debate because their racism is vivid. Shame on afriforum

[@maryduplessis2510]

No? Afriform uses facts which always results in gaslighting because the eff think you are idiots and believe everything they say. Calling people names isn't facts.

[@keidaniel8494]

Did you know blacks cannot be racist. If a black man hates a white man because of his skin, even though he doesn't know the man, even though the man was born after apartheid(30 years ago) the black man owns the right to hate that white man for all eternity. Haha blacks do not know how to achieve peace.

[@MrDamons021]

Weirdly this talk makes me feel better for South Africa. The conversation has started❤

[@siyafaith5615]

As much as we black people don't want to be called kaff*"rs WELL THEN don't say kill the boer I don't understand why these young black man are angry at white people when the black current government is destroying this country. This is stupid,

[@RicksPhatPharm-vw2lb]

Right so why you blaming whites when land was given pre 94'... Your own leaders must divide your land!!! Transvaal Freestate was never part of the 92' referendum your leaders rejected. So what you are actually saying the remaining land that Government and blacks who don't own an inch of land anymore is whites can't have land rights. You saying that tax payers and legal citizens don't have rights under the constitution and that black racial socialism will never cease while whites have any rights or freedom. We as South Africans now reject your struggle as you reject citizens. Blacks are not the only people here, you do this to all races and "swart gevaar" is not fear of blacks, it's the danger of blacks destroying the economy. Which you have already done, where is Rhodesia today? Blacks don't want peace, you want a never ending black struggle to never die and continue to be communists. These things were outlawed and no South African is back peddling as blacks not whites are once again the problem here. You talk flags and language, under law these things are protected. So you openly racist and can't change. The EFF was never part of 94, the already stole Rhodesia blacks are not going to win this! This government won't escape the reality and blacks know very well that this conversation won't change anything until you get your African brothers like Lesotho Zimbabwe and Mozambique out of tjis country. What the South African courts say doesn't matter anymore

[@roblucci2366]

The conversation has been ongoing for 30 years😕 Where have you been?

[@CritikillACClaimed]

Makes you feel better for what? -There are 80+ black on black murders per day in SA. - Collapsed electrical infrastructure - Collapsed government - Massive corruption - Social unrest and political instability - Insanely high crime levels - collapsing agricultural sector - inevitable recession and hyper inflation - Overpopulation of black demographic I guess this is the African excellence I keep hearing about? Either way, we are predicted to be a completely failed state. There is no hope when the population is so savagely violent. Its like expecting an animal to write a book. Not going to happen.

[@lebraa9233]

Damons Véry Domme conversation provocation Violences insulting not a manier at all ever dramatic attackting others bah maffia's 🤑🤑

[@ernestuk5474]

Kallie you are living in a different world, after you stole people's land and wealth you are coming to tell what to sing very poor judgement

[@aviatormk8720]

That white lady summed it up perfectly 👏👏

[@VliegInSop]

Old white liberals don't speak for me. My people built a country. The ANC tore it down to dust.

[@LuXx_SA]

But while she was talking they played the eff video .. why????😮

[@brandonkaule4570]

Siya brought in a great point that maybe if we equally owned farms, we would see equal number of farm murders.

[@cmichaels9544]

Then we can chant "kill the black farmer and all other black that are making a living" Fair?

[@patrickhenry1030]

lol no. These people are being targeted for the color of their skin.

[@kiaq1153]

why should colonial descendants have any right to land

[@cmichaels9544]

@@kiaq1153 through title deeds which solidify the purchase of that land. I want to point out a few things: 1) government owns more land than any individual person or company in the country. Black and white. Why is government not giving land to people that have none? 2) basic economics says a county is prosperous if it had access to land, labour and capital. Everyone has the right to dignity, income, food and shelter. This is deeply ingrained in our constitution. If you'd care to read it. 3) in every country around the world there would be people that don't own land. Is this okay? 4) rights are followed with responsibility. Are you responsible enough to pay the bond on time, maintain the property and build wealth from it? Maybe you should consider this because the people who own land successfully are the ones that are responsible enough.

[@nhlanhlaradebe8]

​​@@patrickhenry1030Bullshit farmers of all races are killed. If you are woke you would know Afgri reports accurately on farm murders. Stop talking rubbish. Go read Afgri reports on farm murders reports.

[@zunabukosi9679]

The guilty are afraid, The wicked flee when no one is pursuing...💅

[@herbertduplessis8967]

Yawn.

[@romeokgololo7001]

true brother, they hear gunshots and assume they are coming for them , that's how a criminal lives in his head, he know he is guilty and lives in fear of retaliation

[@zunabukosi9679]

Kings of apartheid are now playing victim...@@romeokgololo7001

[@mookimoves9469]

WE ARE ONLY GUILTY OF BEING WHITE ....remind you of anything we have suffered in the past ie APART HATE Rasist ! Try compassion for people being murdered (black white or green) where is your humanity your moral fibre wow heartless

[@JulyMabusaMahlangu]

If a black farmer is also called a farmer or boer that means blacks also must be offended by the song

[@Thamie26111]

Malema " I dont cause trouble, i make trouble" These ppl know what the song mean its just that they scared coz now they dont have more Yes Baas like before, its scares them

[@abbeymolosiwa7419]

Liberated lady from racism is speaking. ❤️❤️❤️

[@VictorMthuzi]

I like the eloquency of the EFF spoke person,the guy has facts and not worthy forgetting 🔥bravo

[@JeshuaOurGod]

The arrogance and hatred towards white people must be stopped. Most people want PEACE but this useless 10% party wants blood! It wants 'revenge'...it wants to stoke the fires of hatred! It's time for these EFF bullies to be put into place....the law must take its course...imagine if whites sang Kill the Blacks? Or if Whites sang Kill the EFF! There would be absolute outrage!!!!!! In God's eyes we are all equal! SA needs Jesus!! So proud of Afriforum! Fighting for JUSTICE! For every peace-loving South African- black and white and Indian and Coloured!

[@bridges5659]

You nuts. He' talking nonsense and then about brandy and coke. Seriously , he's a stupid. Who mumbles and grumbles like a stoopid on television. That's embarrassing. 😒

[@thepeacefulrevolution146]

Hard to understand how you call mean-spirited accusations, logical fallacies and belittling comments "facts".

[@bridges5659]

@@thepeacefulrevolution146 Little things amaze little minds.

[@lebraa9233]

User- tm1gm4d Eloquent EFF is a biggest Bunch hooligans destroying the Country as you like the 🔥this what s going to effect themselvers Price increasing in yours supermarkets take a look your Valuta you are going to come Crisis

[@mikeoosthuizen2636]

This Eff guy lost the debate the minute he made the first "brandy and coke" joke.

[@kates3659]

You don't win an argument by insulting your opposition.

[@Ebekud1999]

You clearly aren't following the debate

[@chakalarsa932]

Lost? The only thing lost here is you losing your mind

[@nevillefuego7116]

The only thing lost is your mind

[@roskydk7174]

No he didnt loose anything. The guy talks sense. Dont tell me u also believe this nonsense by kallie

[@devingroenewald8802]

Singapore became one of richest and safest countries in the world 25 years after getting freed from British rule. I think that says something.

[@riniqueen4593]

The problem here is not the chant " kill the Boer" it's about trying to silence eff as they can see people are now awake and want what belongs to them. They have been enjoying to be the owners of our land while we dnt have land

[@gogsoncable6154]

You are a racist imbecile if you don't see a problem in making the whole crowd chant kill the boer.

[@SmelaneSmelane]

As soon as they give Eff a podium am happy we recruit more votes❤🎉

[@iehb505]

Vote for the EFF = going back to the stone age, eating sand, dogs and cats

[@melvinlephale9345]

❤❤❤✊️

[@lebraa9233]

User EFF in the Podium for provocation you can recruiters Vote as you like who care's we have a peacefull Country without Violence nobody robbing us in the streets walking free day and night succes with destroying lives 🤑🙈

[@ZomziWeAfrika]

@@lebraa9233kiss the boer the farmer . See you on election 😂😂😂

[@lebraa9233]

@@ZomziWeAfrika zomzi Kiss the Boer??? The Boeren the supplied you with their producten which you are buying every days in the supermarket this too rude to insult the Boeren After all their are ones producing yours producten the whole World coco Loco 🤑🤑🤑🤑

[@yenkassa]

The struggle never ended, can't avoid the outcome, bound to happen at some time. It's the only way it will end.

[@sakhumzisk-ihlubimazimela4635]

Snawo came prepared for the CEO.

[@nchabelengspeaks5023]

He didn’t even need to prepare anything when you’re going to debate with a clown like that

[@elialvah]

It really doesn’t take much preparation to dismantle illogical hallucinations.

[@mpho438]

I tried listening to the CEO of Afriforum he has not provided any logical backing of this debate. I wanted to be convinced, but he failed. This is an emotionally hurt approach they are undertaking. No stats to prove farm Murders are indeed in corelation to struggle songs. Sinawo had him on his palm.

[@troydanisa9255]

It's jus immense pressure from the funders of afriforum which is 99% Afrikaners that makes this CEO fumble and talk nonsense.In this case pressure didn't make diamonds instead it made crush stone.

[@karabelosefotha06]

He must be fired

[@tshidiso9653]

International fundraising exercise. Well said by EFF.

[@GERHARDTpienaar-q5c]

yes but the eff and anc are getting billions from Russia

[@CodingExpress]

It amazes me how the Dutch will leave their homeland and claimed they found a new homeland far away in Africa

[@gutt2528]

Well the areas the Boers settled in the 1830s were pretty much empty. To be fair

[@styvoll2004]

Malema has serious soldiers.. this guy is articulate and sharp. AfriForum need to come strong.. get serious people who can prosecute your case in the public as well as serious lawyers. Otherwise they are about to face serious defeat both in the courts and in public debates.

[@henkstols9326]

We will come back to your comment, EFF punishment will be a slap on the wrist but they will lose the case and claim they cannot pay the fine they will get. It's happened so many times before.

[@ludwembam3515]

​@@henkstols9326What fine?

[@ludwembam3515]

​@@henkstols9326Lool i thought Afriforum is a smarter organization but hay. Can't withstand the fire from the eff guy. Africa is great.

[@tobolee6385]

Only to a person who struggles to get 30% ....education went to the rubbish after 94 ...

[@rinaevans9705]

Preying on defenseless people. Always outnumbering the victims at least 8 to 1. How brave will they be when facing the might of the boer!

[@losiyad88]

What get me surprised is that most whites are saying we trying to move forward, my question is trying to move forward with who? How do we move forward before giving me what belongs to me?

[@robertg4950]

What's going to make you happy? Nothing. Just hatred a d bitterness. What does it gain for someone to gain the whole world and looss their soul!

[@ellishaindobo1794]

@@robertg4950 what i gain is non of your business robert. Just give me back.

[@ellishaindobo1794]

they're going to tell you that they "Found no one here" like they found no one in the Americas. Even though their arrival can be traced back to a date.

[@robertg4950]

@ellishaindobo1794 what you talking about willis?

[@dumisanid8733]

True, 1913 And act was Expropriation of Land without compensation resulting in forced labour

[@tshegomoguni9548]

ehh this EFF Spokesperson spits fire🔥🔥🔥this level of intellect is unmatched!

[@siyamthandatuba5806]

HIS SO F&%#KEN ON POINT AND I LIKE HIS POSTURE IS SO CALM WHILE HIS SPITTING FIRE 🤣🤣🤣

[@tiongegondwe7219]

[@mackmphahlele9511]

It all depends on the intention of the singer.For a singer who sing to promote his revolutionary intentions whereby others must be killed,then it retains its true meaning and nothing else.

[@emmanuelmoraba3463]

Never thought that Sinawo Thambo can be this brutal😯😮😭

[@eli-praisetladi2001]

very dangerous if u come unprepared.😁

[@troydanisa9255]

U clear don't watch a lot of eff press briefings...The guy doesn't laugh nor smile.Kinda like Mugabe style.😅

[@pollen_za]

If Afriforum can shift it's energy to address some important things like "how come Afrikaaners spent hundreds of years living with people and still they are isolated and they don't want to try other languages"

[@saamstaan6540]

Other languages like?

[@ellishaindobo1794]

@@saamstaan6540 like how i am a native 29yo and can speak English and Afrikaans. All european, non-African languages.

[@XolaniNdlovu-d9f]

@@saamstaan6540 Duh' the answer is obvious white people don't speak the other 9languages don't engage in the culture don't eat or hang around in our neighbourhoods why because we are going to kill them neh?

[@saamstaan6540]

@ellishaindobo1794 you know English is our national language.....everyone has to speak English,from the police station,airport,home affairs,hospitals basically all government enterprises is dealt in English,we get taught English in school for that very reason,not sure what you're really on about,afrikaans people has to speak English,xhosa,zulu, people has to speack English.....

[@maryduplessis2510]

Many Afrikaaners speak zulu, xhosa, sotho...what is your point. Have you ever worked on a farm?

[@alistarwilliams911]

Meneer got schooled. As for Brandy and coke 😂😂

[@MoshimaMoroaswi]

It is 2024 and today on 09 of march we were singing the song as EFF in mpumalanga and we will continue to sing it there is nothing they can do about it viva EFF we will vote for EFF on the twenty nine of may like it or not ❤❤❤❤

[@andriesmahumani1077]

We are behind u juju chant is a chant full stop.

[@sandymachaba9936]

"Alarm people n go to the bush to shoot at paper 🎯& drink brand n coke"😂😂😂Sinawo is one crazy guy.

[@mosalethoba5267]

😂😂

[@maomakelafrans8034]

😂😂😂😂

[@greatthemba]

Return the land before you can say anything.

[@carl4017]

Most land is held by Government. 72% farm land held under white farmers.

[@waitin4thateeeeeeeg]

Look, if even one boer was murdered in a horrible way on his farm every 20 years, just one,it is still not nice to sing publicly "Kill the Boer, Kill the farmer". Have you read how horrible those murders are? Imagine that was one of your family members or friends, how traumatized you would be. Then you hear people singing that song?

[@luthovellem865]

Sinawo is just on another level

[@backyardmechanic7680]

Shem the poor afriforum ceo was sweating under the collar. It's tough to defend nonsensical racist ideologies.

[@Snazzydoll440]

Indeed 😂😂

[@tshiamomonnapula3688]

😂😂

[@faraiguto1781]

I vote for EFF

[@adelemalan6372]

Did you select this pannel mainly from EFF supporters? The best speaker was Sheldon from Stellenbosch University and the young people phoning in. The main EFF speaker could only justify his narrative by being derogatory and bringing up brandy and bushveld visits. The Boer has had to move on many times from oppression themselves. Time to move on, everybody has had their struggles. Look at this country's history. We are now 30 years into a democracy! This song is just plain wrong and just as hurtful to whites as the old flag and that ugly word is to black people.

[@LuXx_SA]

While Kim (white lady) was talking yall played that EFF video...for what? Everyone else wasn't interrupted by the snippet of the video of eff fighting the white oaks who wanted to forcefully enter their buildings...The editor of this thing is wrong thou

[@neomohlabi2251]

AWB is playing... Is this best guy they could bring?

[@hansvorste84]

This guy has got more brains in his big toe than what you have under your kroesies

[@sish2881]

My thoughts exactly

[@zazzleq6139]

Afriforum are racist so by default their thinking capacity will be short circuited compared to authentic African thought leaders.

[@sharongongota2837]

Thanks Sinawu. I'm so so proud to be black. In the first place we forgave people who didn't ask or want our forgiveness. Now they have the nerve to dictate how we remember our past, how we sing our liberation song when we accommodate their apartheid song in our national anthem. Black people must always bend over to accommodate the interest of racist boeremarts. The courts ruled but they can't accept that EFF won against Afriforum, that a black lawyer was superior to a white lawyer.

[@lebraa9233]

Sharongongota If you are so proud as black?? How nice If everyone would behaviour themselvers normale we would have better understanding with every Rainbow colours instead óf violence succes with your Dreams Président Malema

[@kwindat.i.3560]

⁹⁹⁹9⁹l9⁹9⁹ 9 99⁹ 9999 999⁹ 9⁹⁹9o

[@gm.Observer]

You are also an invader of SA, so keep your trap shut.

[@p-manwecho8395]

The way Sinawo commands the Queens languange 🤗

[@kamvasitotomani593]

Taken a decision to finally vote for EFF next year! ANC is no longer the hope for the marginalized!

[@bigbrother1662]

You not allow. I too am voting for eff.. Encouraging my family and community to vote for them too... We need change and a party that will not be scared to face white supremacy.. I have confidence in them and they look organized

[@baballomoilwa1380]

we need part 2 on this debate. make sure you have a 2 hours or more this time.

[@walterjaydengavi806]

Its sad that people are still fighting because of their skin colors . let's see people as people not as white or black I am sick and tired of racism😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢

[@lebraa9233]

Walterjaydengav I agree with you Very much this is ever my quetion people ever conscience about skin colour we all should move forward many Countries walking in hand and hands together black / white i dont see any problem With thank you for your reaction 👍❤🙏

[@aFriCan_Boi]

White South African's are so lucky to have had Mandela. I don't like to say this because it feels wrong but when I see how White South African's behave, the arrogance, racism and entitlement, it pains me to say but Mandela sold us out. If only Malema was there in 1994 and Chris Hani had not been murdered, we would have dealt with them properly, once and for all! Viva EFF viva, iAfrica mayibuye! Amanhla...

[@davidtuer5825]

Who is the "us" that Mandela sold out? Were you around when Nelson Mandela was trying to create his rainbow nation?

[@spearfisherman308]

Dude your hero would have turned you into Zimbabwe

[@alexnyirenda123]

Amapiano should take over the song 😂the more you listen to the song the more it loses value,but if you restrict the song,the more you value it

[@zcm3790]

Exactly, and mark my words that's what going to happen 😂😂 people in twitter are already responding" kill the boer" in debates with white people , because they know it rubs them.the wrong way

[@mosalethoba5267]

Why must it lose its value ? Its not a fashionable song its emotional and spiritual its more like a hymn and its not going anywhere

[@charmainemoodley2414]

You are actually correct - best comment🎉

[@mzamosokhela8876]

From what's being said here it seems as if the rainbow / united nation means let's keep the status quo, those who have must keep everything, those who don't must keep quiet and make ends meet.

[@CosmicAlchemistt]

Facts. And that's what Madiba signed us up for. Imagine.

[@gerritpretorius7698]

Speak to the government elected. They are in control of electricity, airports, economy.

[@judithmuna1068]

It's been like that since CODESA

[@siyandangwekazi4083]

The clinical psychologist went into Fighter mode,,..😂😂

[@morenamsimango]

Very quick in a second may bru

[@TheRealLifeAtKasi]

Beast Mode 😅😅

[@MangwanyaNontyi]

Quickly 😂😂😂

[@ikehayes9252]

He was unproessional. I wanted to hear his professional opinion, yet he took sides and engaged in political arguments. Very dissapointed.

[@lithaqwase4499]

Calling a spade a spade 😂😂😂

[@ahsanmir8676]

One MIND ONE BODY ONE VOICE ONE AFRICA. EDUCATION EDUCATION EDUCATION

[@RougeLino]

you're right. especially history, laws and self-worth

[@TheRadRingo]

Too bad the schools are being burnt down.

[@jack-of7bh]

Not at fought, are you at fought, do people really think at all? For every cause there is a reaction What is your cause? That caused you to be motivated and concerned. Can you live with the fact that you hate with no cause except GREED and classify for privilege? Have you found yourself in these words? Makes me no difference how you answer. Education you say, seems that these Africans are better educated than those who pursue them, and they seem to understand that they have given enough without a song, maybe a song is what's needed. As with every song timing is key it makes the dance. But it's just a song. Just a suggestion educate yourselves then pick a side, and remember that the truth hurts.❤