It's Topical | Pit bull owners and survivors speak out

[@SunriseRoyalThing]

If a dog kills a child or the elderly. The owner must be imprisoned for murder.

[@floydthangwane5763]

Why protect only children and elderly people?

[@lawlawra139]

Ja that's true

[@HeatherDMorris]

Exactly. If your dog, any dog, kills another human you are getting life in prison. If it attacks you will do 5 years in prison and pay restitution when you get out. Any dog. Chihuas to pit bulls. Fair enough. I doubt chi owners would rush out to get rid of it . Pit owners and other types that are known to kill MAY think twice . Fair law

[@prabasenpadayachee3753]

So when a human kills a child an elderly do we lock up the parents caus they raised a murderer

[@bimmjim]

[@sibusisotshabalala3662]

"TO train a domestic pet not to kill means we have a problem "🤞🏿🤝🏾🤝🏾🤝🏾🙏

[@cirnosnumberfan6449]

Leave the killing to the people, it's what they do best anyways.

[@himeshmothi1605]

Almost every breed of large dog can kill, donkeys , goats, horses all can kill.....its how we interact with them that makes them gentle or killers....because pits are strong dogs, you cant beat your dog into behaving like most owners do

[@Justmichs]

Forget about training a dog not to kill, how do you train a human being not to kill? Answer that? kzbin.info/www/bejne/nGOVXnyva7eUetU

[@nomxhosapekani7966]

But seriously, if one looks at the calibre of the owners you have your answer, qha!!

[@HeatherDMorris]

Yea , it's like having to teach your kids " now bobby , dont kill other people son, it's not nice , I know you want to but thats s no no

[@nomvo.unicemadushele187]

The mere fact that they have to be extremely guarded says a lot about these dogs

[@Quagmires_Finger]

What🤣

[@mybossisdrunk]

@@Quagmires_Finger you can't read?

[@annaloum1869]

@@Quagmires_Finger 11111111

[@prabasenpadayachee3753]

Same has our politicians......

[@sunnydaze1]

I'll chime in with personal experience: While biking in my own neighborhood my husband and I were nearly attacked by a huge Staffordshire terrier pit bull mix. It was right up on us without a sound. Then it launched a tirade of snarling, barking and racing back and forth getting shocked by an invisible fence. No owner in sight the entire time. Found out later the canine was "scarred from being wire muzzled and used as a bait dog" and was housed on the front yard, with no visible separation. We got away and then we got mad and then we got educated. We would've been killed that day if that pit would've broken through like it was trying to do. No doubt. We made a huge stink - we got relentless, and mean, just like the dog - and got it booted out of our neighborhood. Old lady sold her house and took it with her. Now there's two more I've seen recently walking by on insufficient leashes. Be safe out there. Never trust a pit bull or its "bad" owner.

[@1971mountaingirl]

You said it with the 'silently upon us' The exact thing happened to me and my hunny, but we were trail riding on HORSES. can you IMAGINE? Out of nowhere horses were galloping breakneck in all directions then I saw the pits on other side of their underground fence...it was a nightmare. I got hurled over the ravine, hunny stayed on somehow. The owner was publicly chastised on our horse forum online and I think scared some sense into her.

[@Will_i_is]

What the SPCA lady said at the end!!! Even with proper breeding and proper training and upbringing, there is still a change that the dog will still do what it was originally bred to do, with the right stimuli!!! And denying that in itself is irresponsible.

[@donkravis2385]

100% percent, it’s at the point where there may not be a consensus. Personally, I think pit bulls need experienced owners who have a license to own the breed, along with a competency test making sure you can take care & understand situations which may trigger the dog. They’re not cats that you can let run free, that’s another issue in SA. They need supervision.

[@mandlenkosihlazo977]

@@donkravis2385 No amount of "understanding n experience can alter the nature of the breed..It has an innate NEED to attack something..

[@donkravis2385]

@@mandlenkosihlazo977 training may soften and lessen the likelihood of the dog turning, but as an owner of a pit bull type breed you have to understand the risk you are taking with owning a power breed. So, understanding situations that might trigger the dog, may lessen future attacks. On the other hand Keeping the dog on a lead in a small yard, with sand, a little food, little socialization with other animals, will create more situations where the dog is anxious/excited and can be triggered to bite. This can increase an already naturally aggressive dog, with physical strength and a tolerance of pain which goes beyond other dog breed.

[@Justmichs]

Same goes for any genus. Homosapien or canine or feline or reptile or mammal @william

[@JeffreytheGreat1]

100 percent

[@thutothebeng7113]

How is a child intimidate or threaten a pitbull

[@cirnosnumberfan6449]

Maybe just don't let them play rough.

[@yadoyaya4887]

You don't listen. People don't know how to treat and look after pitbulls. These dogs protect they owners from harm's way. So you playing a blame game against a dog Thuto

[@Justmichs]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/gZXFoad8obd6n80 how is a child to blame here? But you say nothing!

[@HatckBackBaby]

Taunting it mostly

[@prowessmpanza9550]

These dogs must be banned,.

[@ziphozethumazwana1485]

if a dog has a short fuse naturally, why are you keeping it? doesn't this mean its a safety risk regardless of training?

[@JosephWeinerE]

Yes it does mean that

[@antisuz183]

With the history of these dogs, how can anyone with children or grandchildren even contemplate taking the risks of keeping a pit bull?

[@secret946]

My kids kiss my dog on the head and no she doesn't mind the love...

[@antisuz183]

@@secret946 Yes Andre its adorable, but it all could change in a second.

[@evansshannon6378]

You dizzy man

[@Justmichs]

With this country’s currents stats can anybody trust their children around humans? kzbin.info/www/bejne/gZXFoad8obd6n80

[@mashudumunyai931]

@@antisuz183 spot on

[@lukehardwich5342]

I survived a 5 pitbull attack this year in Eastern Cape and would love to share my story

[@tumithabana5625]

no, we dont want to hear it

[@Justmichs]

Luke, ok, did you report the owners? Did you open a case? Have the owners been addressed since then? What happened? If nothing from the authorities has transpired since then we need to address the authorities and the owners, of the dogs. Not all pit bulls are the same just like not all humans are the same.

[@donkravis2385]

I’d like to hear it, if you’re keen on sharing pal. Perhaps contact through e-mail for a safer space. I’m from the Western Cape, a couple of maulings this year, as recent as last week where a child survived an attack.

[@Justmichs]

@@donkravis2385 don ok what is being done i ask the same questions of Luke to you. Are the authorities handling the matter is there more attacks in the cape? Maybe there is a problem that needs to start there. I’m pro life both animal and human

[@Justmichs]

Maybe we are being failed by relevant authority enforcement, illegal breedings, dog fights abuse more prevalent in the cape. We need to get to the source of the problem not the symptom

[@louisamaduna1704]

My cousin is breathing through pipes, because of her 2 pitbulls. Believe it or not it took four bullets to put it down by the police.

[@Justmichs]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/nGOVXnyva7eUetU who speaks for these kids?????

[@beautymkwananzichingovo4591]

They must relocate all pit bulls to the wild forest like Kruger these are wild animals not domestic

[@prowessmpanza9550]

These dogs should be banned seriously.

[@deathrager2404]

give your cousin my love. i ll try to be there in spirit. kill all dogs, this is what they all do. pits are just ten times worse....

[@nezuminezuminezumi7266]

@@prowessmpanza9550 Why? The dog is working exactly as bred for. The owners are the morons that don't treat them with the respect they're owed. If you don't actually fix the lack of accountability in South African culture, simply banning things won't solve anything. All that ends up happening is responsible people get punished.

[@sinesihleignetiousmfenyana5678]

The gentleman on yellow t-shirt makes a lot of sense, other panelists are arguing based on emotions.

[@smooglesleep2527]

A fool

[@adamf.585]

Please don't Blame Black Africans

[@memeguyTM]

Nah, he got embarrassed. He is a clown. Case closed

[@ericbritton8146]

I was on the elevator alone which is only 6ft. wide almost 2 wks ago. When the door opened, standing there was a gigantic, unmuzzled, wide mouth, massive head, tiger size, identical to the one on the right physique Pit Bull Terrier with it holding the other end of the leash. When the monster saw me, the blood thirsty beast immediately attempted to attack me, but it pulled the beast back. They both got on the elevator. I never want to, but I thought I was going to have to put the monster down that day. I am always prepared to do so. Of course it said what it always says. "He doesn't bite." I do not listen to it. I know everything about Satan's beast including it's maulings and deaths. This particular monster's record is quite extensive. My wife is terrified of dogs and Pit Bull Terriers. She gets behind me, holds on tightly and cries when one is near. She has every right to be and to do so. They are not me.

[@averagejo6]

😂😂😂 Ok buddy

[@maxine4898]

@@averagejo6 💩💩🤡🤬

[@maxine4898]

I agree, that comment about “we don’t ban cars or guns” is absolutely ridiculous comparison AND, we have to use cars to get to work and various places BUT it is NOT vital to own a certain breed of dog, there are THOUSANDS of dogs to choose from, the dog population is totally out of control , it would also benefit pit bulls/types, it would save them from the horrific cruelty at the hands of their criminal owners and it would save hundreds/thousands of them from being killed in shelters

[@averagejo6]

and out of those thousands of breeds no dog has a personality even close to a pitbull, just because of some bad owners it doesn't mean the other MILLIONS of pitbulls all over the world are violent monsters , and the dogs in the attacks aren't even pitbulls

[@kimbobby3046]

Very well said

[@grantrothman7171]

We need to sign a petition so the owners in question go jail no bail

[@Justmichs]

Why? Murderers and rapists don’t even go to jail, never mind jail no bail?

[@prabasenpadayachee3753]

Sign a petition to bring back death penalty has well rape, murders, on kids are a real problem in South Africa

[@sifisocomfortthabethe5136]

the guy with a yellow t-shirt has made a valid point I suppose him 100%🤝🏿🙏

[@ingridkemp1524]

Mangaliswe has the perfect & most rational argument. Let's listen to intelligent people like him. Please !!!

[@ThabiThabi]

The simplest solution to this is to charge the owner with murder/ attempted murder if it attacks a human being. THAT'S taking responsibility!

[@mashudumunyai931]

That should be done but unfortunately a life would have been lost already. They should be banned to avoid unnecessary deaths

[@gopolangluka8225]

The fact that there is a debate taking place, about the dogs in the first place says a lot. I believe that they do not care whatsoever about the people around them,and those who lost their lives because of these dogs. During the coronavirus pandemic, we were forced to wear masks and isolate ourselves to be protected. That was the only way we could prevent ourselves from dying. I take this Pitbull thing as a pandemic, and as much as the only one solution to this,is banning them,then let there be no discussions. Action must be taken before we lose more vulnerable souls...

[@gracevicki3983]

I'll bet you keep getting vaccinated too ....

[@amberxv4777]

The owners are not humans in the first place for owning those muts. Should be treated like animals

[@sandilemfeka4658]

If a dog kills an innocent person, it must be killed and the owner must go to jail. I child being killed playing at his own home, that's painful. The Yellow T shirt guy is spot on.

[@smooglesleep2527]

WY did the Mather and father not look after the kid ?

[@sandilemfeka4658]

@@smooglesleep2527 Do you always watch your kids when they play in your yard? I don't think you have a child.

[@smooglesleep2527]

@@sandilemfeka4658 I have 2, and you look like a child

[@sandilemfeka4658]

@@smooglesleep2527 I will take that as a compliment, I have a child and I would never blame my self if a dog came into my yard and killed my child I would make sure the owner is punished and the dog is dead.

[@liamisaac9385]

If your child kills someone, would you be fine with your child being killed and you going to jail?

[@pontshomosiea6187]

Any pet must be for the owner not for people in the streets or neighborhood. So they must be locked inside the owner's property and do whatever job with the owner .

[@phoenixrising8640]

@tshepokunene8735 you belong in jail. Blame the owners who don't train their dogs and also the parents who don't teach their children manners and how to treat animals. Most children antagonize dogs, for example, tease and stone them, which result in attacks. Also, jail all dogfighters for life.

[@SAapproves]

House breakings are high in South Africa and a person is less likely to break in if they know you have a pitbull. As the owner you must take full accountability. You must make sure that your dogs cannot exit your yard or when visitors are around lock it up.

[@sammy9103]

They should get a dog specifically bred for guarding, not an attack dog, which is what pitbulls were bred for. They are not guard dogs.

[@maykay383]

How come we never see the faces of the owners of these dogs after their dogs have killed? I have never seen one account to the public. They very quick to defend them but they hardly show their faces when they turn on them.

[@hlubideetz7614]

because of these mobs! We dont want to live in fear from mobs thank you very much

[@hlubideetz7614]

@@smooglesleep2527 who is a fool?

[@pulepebane5679]

All dogs have the potential to bite. But not all dogs have the potential to kill and maim. That’s the difference for me.

[@VickiDee88]

Y'all need to understand one thing. Every dog has a potential to bite. But not all have the potential to kill. Example I got bit by a chihuahua. And a Maltese poodle. Did it hurt? Yes. Did I need to fear for my life. Nope.

[@liezelnel4534]

I am a responsible pitbull owner. I know what he is capable of in certain situations so I make sure that I always act responsibly in keeping a safe environment for all. I don't have small kids at home anymore and when I do get visitors I do protect everyone involved by locking him up safely untill my visitors leave. I also have high walls so he can't get out of the yard, I have multiple warning signs warning that I do have a pitbull on my property, I had him sterilized , I keep him inside the house mostly, as he is trained to ask to go outside if he needs to. The breed itself is not the problem but the irresponsible owners are. You have to know what kind of responsibility you will have before you decide on owning a pitbull. It would be great if we can implement the licensing of every pet owned, and mandatory sterilization for all pets owned. And then the irresponsible owners should face consequences if they do not comply to the set standards.

[@barbaralouisebenjamin5918]

I would add ensuring that the pet is trained to the licence requirement of any dog. [But then are Jack Russels trainable?]

[@wdtony]

You seem to be the exception to the rule. Most pit bull owners are irresponsible and this is why children are continuous killed.

[@liezelnel4534]

@@wdtony That is the truth, I agree 💯.

[@thandombatha8242]

The most important thing is to acknowledge the danger of this breed so you can take precautions. Seems like you actually are a responsible owner. Which is very rare

[@stoneyestevan1513]

Then you dont got a pet. Dont call it a pet please. You got a beast. A wild beast that needs to be kept behind high bars cos it cannot be trusted around humans just like a prisoner. A serial killer needs to be kept in maximum prison exaclty the same manner you just described you do with your dog. So you are not a pet owner. Your a prison warden. If you wanna live that way cool. But some people are confused and think they can treat pitbulls like normal pets. You are not helping them understand that only people who enjoy playing prison warden can own this dog, when you keep pretending like this dog is no different than any other dog. Your making it worse sir.

[@mukondimatumba1803]

Lack of governance is the problem in SA. All focus is on the pitbull but nothing being said about the owners, what's wrong with us.

[@tshepomotshepana7635]

As a dog owner I can tell right now young children, adults like teasing dogs especially people who are ignorant when it comes to animal behavior. I consistently have to fight with people not to tease my dog with children is worse because their parents do not want to talk to their children. But we must not only blame those ignorant people but also the owners who do not do behavior training with their dogs and socializing their dogs. Before I had a dog I did a solid six months of research and I spoke with other dog owners who funny enough own pitbulls but I have not had an accident with my dog since I had bought it and it's a crose between pitbulls ND boerboel

[@onlytruth9797]

@tshepo motshepana... you're perilous, as you're not cognizant of your own willful ignorance. You as well as numerous others need to be DEPROGRAMMED like yesterday, as you've been THOROUGHLY BRAINWASHED by the colonizers!!! WAKE TF UP & CEASE THE MADNESS!!!!!!

[@tshepomotshepana7635]

@@onlytruth9797 o buwa ka eng nou am not even brainwashed do not add your feelings here focus on the facts that i have put forward. Its silly to use whites and brainwashing the best you could have done was just to dislike my opinion instead of wasting your time speaking rubbish

[@tshepomotshepana7635]

@@onlytruth9797 i Can tell right now am more black power then you ever well be stupid keyboard warrior😀

[@onlytruth9797]

@@tshepomotshepana7635 ... you're insignificant...period.

[@nezuminezuminezumi7266]

YOU are the owner. YOU took responsibility for it. YOU brought it into a community where people are ignorant. You are exactly what's wrong with most Pitbull owners. You're expecting everyone else to take responsibility for your decision to get a dog.

[@HeatherDMorris]

Yep, " you cant touch me bc I have a pit bull. " hes got it right

[@averagejo6]

you can't touch someone because they have a dog that weighs less than a child?

[@averagejo6]

idk how a 20 kg dog is keeping people away but ok , maybe you're one of those people who think pitbulls are big idk

[@Azubjourni]

EVERYBODY who has to be around Pitbulls should be legal to own a firearm to act accordingly if they are attacked! This breed is a weapon and we as humans have the right to defend ourselfs from these vicious monsters

[@tshidisomokoena7005]

A lady called rose in vosloorus was killed by her pit bull so what does this means?

[@suh-guy]

Did she buy the dog from a reputable breeder? Was the dog trained. Was it an outdoor chained or indoor house dog? Has the dog been going for vet checkups & was it fed well or neglected?

[@robinpigeon2070]

That has nothing to do with the dogs inherent viciousness and prey drive.

[@mashudumunyai931]

The guy in Yellow and the lady with braids are the only ones making sense. Everybody else 🙄🙄. The guy who made the gun or car example is …… (I’m lost for words). Kids has been killed by these dogs in their own yards and he likens that to owning a gun? 😵‍💫

[@morefifacollege8971]

If house breakings stop no need for no dogs at home!!!!!

[@stoneyestevan1513]

People are openly admiting they are keeping and raising these animals for protection. These dogs have the ability to rip limbs off and kill even full grown adults. That qualifies this breed as lethal weapons. Thus they are admiting to keeping lethal weapons on their yard. It's illegal to own lethal weapons without licence. All these people who admit they are keeping lethal weapons on their yards should be treated same as The kungfu guy who has to register his hands as lethal weapons and the gun owner who has to licence his gun and go for weapons training. They're not getting golden retrievers for protection. They are specifically going for this specific breed, cos everyone understands that this is the most vicious breed out there. Thus you have to acknowledge these animals belong in a class of their own (not clumped in with domestic category) - if they were only harmless domestic pets at heart as some would have us to believe, all these people would not be getting them for protection in the first place

[@TheDaeroner]

I would never let a Pitbull guard my yard - truth is, it's likely to get stolen 🤷🏽‍♂️.

[@stoneyestevan1513]

@@TheDaeroner little children are busy getting ripped apart and this is the best contribution you can make on this issue?

[@TheDaeroner]

@@stoneyestevan1513 Pitbulls, are bred to have an extremely human friendly temperament which is why they get stolen so often in SA - that's just factual. That's why I blame the owners, not the dogs... I feel for the family and I can't even pretend to comprehend their grief... The law needs to make an example of the owners because Pitbulls, like Rottweilers, Rhodesian Ridgebacks, Cane Corsos and any other Mastiff or Terrier working dog breed... Can't be owned just by any random person, they need really experienced owners.

[@stoneyestevan1513]

@@TheDaeroner So the thieves steal them for their human friendliness? So pitbulls out-do all the other actual human friendly dogs in the friendly department? Cos they are bred to be specifically human friendly? Interesting. I guess the lady who got her arm ripped off wasnt human enough

[@stoneyestevan1513]

@@TheDaeroner If there was as many cases of golden retrievers or chihuahua ripping people apart as pitbulls, I would agree with you the breed is not the problem, it's 100% the owner. Yet the reality is pitbulls are the common denominator in all these cases. If you said 50% owner, 50% breed fault. That would've sounded more accurate than: its the owners. They don't know what they're doing. Pitbulls are bred to be friendly. Whattt???

[@parshinnaidoo2478]

The guy with the yellow shirt is brilliant! case closed !

[@SA-wb1jb]

I have a neighbour with Pitbulls. I assume they're thoroughbred as they really are marvellous specimens. BUT, the two of them have to regularly be separated from each other (one in the backyard and the other in the front) because they'd bark like insane rabid animals at all passers-by and then, in sheer frustration, turn on each other for lack of something to "attack". The dogs bark like raging lunatics if I even dare open my garage door or if I am doing work on the perimeter of my property. I have absolutely no doubt at all that should their gate ever accidentally open and they got out, I would be torn to shreds within seconds. Their son teases the dogs all day - kicking balls at them, throwing water on them and generally "baiting" them. It's a catastrophe waiting to happen.

[@thabonkosi1385]

My one never barked, the only time it barked in the middle of the night there is someone trying to jump our boundary walls or someone stripping wires on our streetlights. They even stripped the traffic lights! Later they came back to take the traffic lights poles for scrap metal.

[@1971mountaingirl]

I couldn't live next to them. I pray this never happens but, I have a special type of sweetener in my pantry just for this.

[@thetruepatriot7733]

The boy is on borrowed time...

[@ronaldmabuza1058]

This is a case of humans being ridiculous to extreme levels. Admits the dog can easily be triggered and kill you, but trust me and any ordinary Joe to raise them well to be safe dogs. Just get another breed of a dog.

[@geckosman]

It's ironic that the pitbull owners turn on other pitbull owners just as quickly as a pitbull turns on its owner. When the pitbull attacks the owner/stranger it's immediately the owner's fault; they didn't raise them properly, were too harsh, etc etc...the thought that those dogs were bred for violence and killing (and are still used for illegal dog fights today) never occurs to them. Just name the thing "Princess" and whoosh all the bad genetics instantly dissipates. They're cute and cuddly until something in their head snaps. There's no cure for stupidity...

[@ronaldmabuza1058]

@@geckosman exactly ,and it turns out other countries long banned/restricted breeding of Pitbulls and other similarly dangerous dogs like the Japanese Tosa etc (eg UK and Australia). But wait SA has can handle this, can't be more stupid.

[@vusimncube430]

these people understand this is a dangerous dog...this dog eat only Red meat u must not skip a meal cause u will make it mad this dog it like a Big cat (Lion) it hard to teach these Pit...U find us Black people running around with them at the street making show off that u have a deadliest dog at the end of the day u find that dog is being fed porriedge Left overs...they dont even wash these dogs or take them to spca to check their health ...So for us having these dogs around while have little ones it not Safe to have one.....Rather have Rot weillers...police Dogs...Puppies these are dogs that are easy to teach... So I say down to Pit Bulls cause they cost Lives .

[@mzaifane]

@@vusimncube430 pitbulls eat what you feed them. (skipping a meal is a myth).

[@karabogillian2009]

😂😂 Rottweilers are just as dangerous as Pitbulls bafo... The same thing will happen with Rottweilers under those owners you mentioned. They should just leave dog ownership in general

[@prowessmpanza9550]

These should be really banned from commuties simply.

[@naomimuller6739]

How many people in SA must still be killed by that lovable monster's

[@Mike-sw7ul]

Or you mean by humans??? Statistics actually show that there are more human killings than dog killings. Yet it's us humans who should know better not to kill. We want to ban Pitbulls but only send murderers to jail and release them on bail just for them to kill again???

[@thamiramaila3169]

The lady who was laughing is insesetive considering current killings by pitbulls I doubt she feels anything for those families infact she must bring the land back or go home.

[@stoneyestevan1513]

There's Road Accident Fund, so I take it there is Pitbull Accident Fund as well for the poor families who suffered damage and loss.

[@truth-Hurts375]

Its called...The owner !!

[@thandombatha8242]

@@truth-Hurts375 🫣

[@stoneyestevan1513]

@@truth-Hurts375 You do know how easy it is for people to forfeit paying for damage when they claim lack of income right? Or on your planet everyone is employed?

[@stoneyestevan1513]

@tshepo kunene Age is nothing but a social construct, isnt?

[@stoneyestevan1513]

@tshepo kunene Who is responsible for making sure By-laws are enforced??? THE OWNER?? Government (Municipalities) should cover the damage, cos it happend due to Government negligence. Government (Municipalities) didnt ensure that the by-laws are enforced to avoid loss or damage. People who just make laws but never enforce them should also be held responsible for loss/damage. BOTH the owner and Municipality is guilty of negligence, not only owner This is why Municipality should be held liable to cover all the loss/damage where owners claim lack of income

[@moseszwane2720]

A dog can change it's mind, just like a human being.

[@pamelaleigh4225]

What?

[@tuxedopitbulls888]

none of the dogs you are showing is a Pitbull. Those are all American Bully's

[@drnkosinathiemmanuelduma4065]

Until they eat or kill the owner,family members or a defenseless child

[@Sammy-mp9xn]

Just a matter of time with pitbulls. Tick tock.

[@adelelee9065]

What about rapists and murderers?

[@kmuniqco]

Dumbest comment..

[@pamelaleigh4225]

What about them?

[@maxine4898]

Whether they are trained, treated well, chained, or WHATEVER, it’s all IRRELEVANT, what is relevant is that people and precious pets are being killed FREQUENTLY by them and like that very intelligent man (in the yellow shirt) says, if all these rules and regulations have to be in place so people can own pit bulls, then they SHOULD NOT be kept as pets, because they are dangerous, the attacks/killings will not stop whatever rules are brought in because most people who own them are criminals/druggies/dealers and no matter how we try to teach that type of person, they will never change or be a responsible human being

[@thabangsenooane1148]

The host was excellent in conducting the show.

[@adamf.585]

Please don't Blame Black Africans

[@thabangsenooane1148]

If you are replying to my comment, you are not making sense.

[@avuyilengqangweni1680]

These wild animals need to be banned!

[@TheHumbuckerboy]

It is crazy that so many people want to own killer breeds over the many other wonderful breeds !

[@warondogs8199]

and even better, how about saving the earth and your community by not owning one at all?

[@kdizzodoglover]

You can be killer too we all capable, we are animals whether you like it or not. Should we kill you too If other people are killing out there or nawe are you already a killer my killer..?

[@TheHumbuckerboy]

@@kdizzodoglover What a ridiculous comment !

[@nomvo.unicemadushele187]

This shouldn't even be negotiated, the pitbulls should be banned because they're able to attack even their owners 💔

[@marionletsoalo5686]

Why are people keeping millitaty dogs in their yards

[@sqothui3798]

South Africa is not a safe place...this is our only way to keep criminals from our yards..criminal they fear them..even if they stab them it's take time to penetrate in their skin.

[@wdtony]

The US military actually banned pit bulls from all military bases in 2008. So the military doesn’t even want them around.

[@morefifacollege8971]

Cause of crimimals!

[@Mike-sw7ul]

Because we live in South Africa obviously... Crime rate and all that, so yes, we keep them for protection

[@wdtony]

@@Mike-sw7ul German Shepherds or Dobermans are great for protection. Why own an unpredictable pit bull?

[@txmtxmmy6300]

100 thousands people making a decision for 60 million population

[@thusanglethena5233]

How can a 3 or 4 year be treat to a dog?

[@commanchelocksley2393]

Why is a 3 or 4 year old out on the street unsupervised in the first place? Dogs are not the only danger on the street. There are bullies, cars, kidnappers, pedophiles but to name a few.

[@deathrager2404]

@@commanchelocksley2393 yea turn it back around on the kid's parents... what if this was daytime? and it happens alot during daytime? filthy mutt lover

[@sanarahman8220]

Look at that jaw. Of course they should be banned. any dog that is a pet should be leashed at all times and kept away from public p Parks children playground.

[@sibusisotshabalala3662]

Banned all over Europe but we still have south Africans arguing about the danger of this dogs they would rather blame the victim the owner but never the breed😔🤦🏿sad I gas another human has to die.

[@suh-guy]

So we must follow whatever Europe does? I would never blame a knife for stabbing me.

[@porche796]

There are people who got killed by their own pitbulls,those people treated the dogs so well but in the end they died. Pitbulls are very dangerous no matter how well you train themand how well you treat them. There will come a time they show their true colors

[@sandilemfeka4658]

True

[@smooglesleep2527]

My pitbull is 10 years old and is not as you saying it is

[@zaheer.malek5]

7000 human on human murders in Sa from July to September according to an earlier Sabc report.... I hope the rest of the country can start making a stand against this

[@billyb7469]

80 murders a day and worried about a dog breed

[@pamelaleigh4225]

Yes, let's just make things worse...

[@jn7752]

to ban pitbull. iss the same as opening ur door wide for criminals to do as they wish in ur house..dogs have no problems...the problem is human. being

[@mashudumunyai931]

How do these people explain these dogs killing a 3yr or 1yr old since they are saying they react when provoked? I don’t get it. So kids can’t be free in their neighborhood? 🤔

[@marky5493]

if south Africa was filled with the yellow shirt guys mentality south Africa would be SOOOOO FRIKKEN AMAZING!!!

[@VM-9911]

63% of documented cases, there are a lot of undocumented cases. The owner can not be there 100% all the times. What about the humans that have a dog phobia? People are selfish they don’t care about the night time these dogs are on the street while the owners are sleeping some people must come to and from work.

[@mandyconnecteddogs]

I don't think that a lot of people understand what it's like to live in that situation..... more people need to look after their pets. but fencing is expensive and chains are cheap.... and that's bad bad bad. if people got dogs and kept them as actual pets, as in indoors with owner, also wouldn't have this. but people don't wash their dogs, don't vaccinate or train them...... I got bitten by a rabid dog, in my own garden, thanks to irresponsible owners. it's time that each human takes responsibility for their own pets.

[@abelmolaba8788]

Sad to hear a human being saying a pit bull(breeded to kill) is like their child...what has happened to humanity?What about actual children being killed by these dogs

[@Sammy-mp9xn]

It's very disturbing.

[@nomvo.unicemadushele187]

It's not about training, the dogs just snap at any given moment and are very unpredictable 💔😭

[@sammy9103]

People refuse to research & understand Genetics. Before owning ANY breed of dog, people should research first. There's more to dog ownership than just wanting to scare away criminals & intimidation.

[@el_Contra]

10:25 man's best friend is NOT public enemy number 1... it is pitbull type dogs that are PUBLIC ENEMY NUMBER ONE

[@sammy9103]

Right!!

[@tebogoprince6251]

The guy in the yellow shirt Very very Very smart guy🔥🔥

[@adamf.585]

Please don't Blame Black Africans in the Continent

[@ezekiasmkhabela4376]

very soon people will be walking around with Lions.

[@thekgi1349]

I really love dogs but it's becoming increasingly obvious that this particular breed has to go.

[@Sakhephi]

Social media is not in any way a reflection of reality

[@mossfairy3060]

No dog should be kept on a chain..seeing all these pitties chained IS THE REASON THEY ATTACK

[@isaiahxaba3489]

I once stayed in an area where burglaries were the order of the day. Numerous reports at the Police Station yielded zilch. I had to resort to dogs. After trying a number of breeds from Jack Rusell, German shepherd and then pit bulls. All forms of harassment to my safety stopped with the introduction of the latter. The pits were fine with my small kids until I gave them away as I moved to a safer area. The owners must train their dogs.

[@jukiesjoblom6832]

I agree 100%

[@maiden5427]

The day you have to train a dog not to bite a 3 year old then its stops being a pet but a wild animal.

[@deathrager2404]

@@maiden5427 training a pitbull comes with violence. lol nuff said.

[@nezuminezuminezumi7266]

You're congratulating yourself on leaving a loaded gun in your kid's play pen and bragging about the fact that they never managed to figure out how to get the safety turned off and shoot each other. Pitbulls are aggressive animals and this delusion of control is exactly why accidents happen.

[@el_Contra]

it is obvious that people can not be trusted to own pitbull type dogs... if an owner is irresponsible someone's child dies horrifically

[@sqothui3798]

I own four pitbull pet.This pet need to be treated in a special way...make sure they know people and know the danger people and harmless people

[@wdtony]

True. Which is why they shouldn’t be allowed as pets.

[@ikanengthekiso325]

@@wdtony fully agree, even though they won't always attack I feel like their higher propensity to attack justifies a ban.Example cars that are not road worth won't always cause accidents but they are not allowed on the road .

[@thandombatha8242]

@@wdtony totally agree, at this point its like owning a lion that you raised as a puppy. You know its a killer but you hope it wont kill🤧

[@wdtony]

@@ikanengthekiso325 Yes. This is a public safety issue and not an animal or pet issue.

[@berniejacob6832]

These dogs are befokked anything makes them attack and ppl keep looking 4 excuses 4 these killer dogs until it kills one of their own😡😡😡😡😡😡

[@JustanormalguyinZA]

Ive known many people who have had pitbulls for their whole lives and yet theyve had no issues we cant judge the breed its unfair its like saying all south africans are criminals eventhough only a small part of the population are criminals

[@wdtony]

Pit bulls kill more humans than all other dogs combined. The people you know are very lucky.

[@truth-Hurts375]

Stop beeing an idiot.. You got internet...do your own research.

[@JustanormalguyinZA]

@@truth-Hurts375 idiots would see the whole breed as a bad breed you clown It depends on how the dag was treated trained and brought up ! You only see the bad in the breed you are an uniformed clown!

[@ritanagel3554]

Excellently said and agreed upon AV

[@thekgi1349]

I love dogs, own two boerboels but I am for the banning of pitbuls because they are not normal dogs.They need to go.

[@rocketsunny2423]

honestly if you just spade or nute them... it takes so much of the aggression out

[@eternalgravity]

Might want to research how many spayed/neutered dogs have gone on to attack and kill. Altering them really doesn't matter.

[@rocketsunny2423]

@@eternalgravity it does actually, it makes them alot passive

[@sarahscroggins2793]

It’s a lethal animal, they can be lovable, but they are deadly.

[@nicholussibusisovilakazi951]

BAN THE DOGS! FULL STOP.

[@brandonfletcher1501]

Guy in yellow top best spoken and brilliant facts

[@comfortkatane4718]

These pit bulls needs to be removed from the society

[@maxine4898]

AND, when we get in a car it is at our OWN risk, when I walk down the street, I SHOULD be able to without RISK and without FEAR of being attacked by someone’s dangerous dog

[@yolandearendse576]

The owners need to be trained we have Pitbulls and they are pets to us sleeping inside on special dogbeds they are the most lovable dogs if treated correctly.The wrong people have them sometimes.

[@blessingmabaso2172]

These people are only concerned about their families protection and they all say if you train them they listen to you, so if that's the case why one family is behind the fence and other dogs outside because if you both have control of your dogs and they listen to you you'll come out freely to talk not behind the fence; that's just contradiction .

[@HeatherDMorris]

Tigers are deadly. They are caged correctly and dont get out. Pit bulls chew thru their dinky fences .

[@blessingmabaso2172]

@@HeatherDMorris true that

[@ZENART630]

Problem is that no one trains their dogs. I am a dog groomer about to quit my job because I’m sick and tired of dealing with Untrained dogs. Everyone wants to make them their babies and let them get away with everything. They are dogs not babies. If people would treat them for what they are there wouldn’t be so many problems. Even children you discipline so why not your dog. And yes I am all for putting down an aggressive dog. There are too many great dogs out there than to keep an mentally unstable dog. Not to mention the liability of having such a dog. People who have “aggressive” breed dogs need to take training seriously or don’t have them at all.

[@deekay8920]

Need the address of the guy in a Yellow T-Shirt, I think he deserves BELL'S as he listen to understand and not to respond. Too proud of his intelligence.

[@danieldonnelly8102]

I dont think it should be banned it's the owner who should be held accountable

[@Mnaoke]

Children are being mauled to death. How do you propose the owners be held accountable?

[@stoneyestevan1513]

So every time a child is killed by these beasts someone must just fork out money as though that will make up for the loss of life? Ever heard of "Prevention is better than cure"

[@tumelosengwane2666]

Some things are easy to say until they happen to you

[@gopolangluka8225]

I don't like ignorant people like you. These dogs should be banned

[@chabalichabali8714]

These owners are sturbon. Kids are dying because of these "friendly dogs"

[@chabalichabali8714]

@@sms3712 owning a dangerous breed knowingly. It kills neighbours this could be avoided by eliminating them from society in whichever way possible

[@chabalichabali8714]

@@sms3712 I blame owners for having such a breed as pet. Go choose other lighter breeds.

[@ronelbritz3458]

Kids are dying in unlawfull taxis also. More than by the dogs

[@lee7973]

Great Topic, you know when these topics come up, i start wondering....who are the greater killer's...Is it dogs or human being's. Do we seriously tackle the issues at how we bring up kids in this world that rape/kill/murder/ steal..etc from there fellow beings....since we have all the sense in the world to discriminate? Do we really have hard enough dialogues about out behaviour as human beings seing the atrocities we are committing to our own Brothers and Sister's in our country? What is the ratio of the killings and people being bitten by dogs compared to how many rapes and killings in our society. Now why we are worried about dogs...it does seriously make you think how warped we are as a society in SA. Prayers and condolences to the family who lost there children🙏🏿

[@liezelnel4534]

I agree 💯%

[@Mike-sw7ul]

As I was about to type.... You already said exactly what I wanted to say. Honestly, a human killing another human happens every minute. Yet we don't call for bans of a certain "race". Don't we as humans know better not to kill than a dog??? Come on, murderers are only sent to jail then later on released or even apply for bail without jail time. How is it that we want to ban a dog when we can't even regulate the justice system for humans properly. Or another example is so many teenagers have committed suicide due to comparing themselves to the bullshit we see on Instagram. Yet we don't even think of banning Instagram in our country or in the world. People are just focusing on these dogs that can actually be regulated, but fail to see what else needs more attention. Seriously!!! Why are we putting up burglar bars, electric fences, alarm systems etc.? Because we as humans are scared of being killed by our own species......we should focus on the bigger picture!!! But nonetheless, my condolences go out to the families who lost their lives to these dogs

[@thabangsenooane1148]

Well said Lee.

[@tdvwx7400]

Yeah sure, except we send humans that murder/harm one another to jail. We can and should focus on more than one issue at a time, and pitbulls are one. This is a weak argument.

[@prabasenpadayachee3753]

@@tdvwx7400 send to jail an they released on bail

[@sandisoparkies8268]

All these people defending and sauger coating this they are all mad killers, these animals are dangerous and must be banned. keep up Mr Bangilizwe we need guys like you.

[@andiswaadzi161]

If peaple says this dog they do not humful if are properly trained why they was attacke their owner Year ago

[@tshepomotshepana7635]

Yet again people are forced to get pitbulls because it's cheaper then having a pistol. That is the true reason why the pitbulls has become popular

[@mandlenkosihlazo977]

Nah.. a large part of it is that it's become a fashionable thing to do.

[@milktart4591]

Take all pitbulls the Kruger national park. They belong in the wild .

[@fanie5652]

Yes a gun or car will not jump a wall. What will happen if you leave your loaded gun on the bed or table or leave your car keys in the ignition with kids around? Ownership is the key here. Gun out of a safe & car keys in the ignition while car is ON is same risk as a loose Pitbull with a less security. We run away from responsibilities.....regulations will end this pandemic. There is uncontrolled breeding out there not just the Pitbull dog.

[@tinasutton4245]

The parent's must be careful, and protect the children, keep the your children away, from any dog,nits not just pit bulls, the are very nice and protective to the people they know as well, but don't tease them, I don't blame the dogs. They should not be banned, parent should take more care of their children. They don't know what they are doing, they even attack other dogs. People know when they do wrong, but these dogs don't know the difference. We need protection these days.

[@sammy9103]

Children don't know the difference either & should be able to play outside without fear of a dangerous beast & irresponsible owner. Dog owners must keep their beasts securely confined at all times.

[@sabelosubzero1904]

Wee Mem Dube usuyongixolela awavalwe amaPit Bulls😢

[@adamf.585]

Please don't Blame Black Africans in the Continent

[@tebogoshadracknqai6368]

Every dog needs a training, I disagree with people saying that “if Pitbulls need an intensive training they should then not be regarded as domestic pets”. I see people comparing American Bully pitbull with other breeds, it's so wrong. People just need to acknowledge Pitbull as a capable potential dog, not a dangerous dogs. I find it very foolish people think that Dogs think like them. How many human cases of murder, rape, robbery and other crimes are being reported on daily basis. Perhaps an animal like pitbull don't have that intellectual capacity to acknowledge that what am doing is wrong if is not a well raised animal unlike humans. Still I've never seen people such taking a stand, or it is because Pitbulls are just animals who can not talk or defend themselves. Human beings are selfish because a killer who used a knife to kill, it was a choice and that person thought this through before doing it, but still that will be given a second chance of life instead of banning them. Because animals can not defend themselves people now people want to ban them. We have laws that govern animals, but never enforced. Why can't people just acknowledge that people must be held accountable for their dogs killing people. Why can't just people accept that bad dog owners are the root cause of the problem? Each and every abnormal dog breeds namely pitbull, Rotviller, Bull dog, Doberman and others are capable of killing a child @10< just that it hasn't happened yet. Why can't we just enforce law instead of banning innocent dogs? Because I believe that by enforcing the law will prevent this kind of incidents from happening. Our government is to be blamed too 😒 People are being emotional, it's understandable but unnecessary at some point.

[@stimbhoqo]

What then should be the solution? It wont help for us to argue amongst ourselves. We have to be solution-orientated around such issues. If children's lives are at risk, what safety measure must be taken to reduce the fatalaties?

[@mzwakhe3219]

They are going to provoke each other you say

[@TheDaeroner]

Nearly all dogs do that because males dogs are territorial. Problem is Pitbulls aren't just all bark no bite... They're descendents of Bull-baiting dogs, so they bite hard, are extremely tenacious and have no fear... All Mastiffs are like that which makes them very dangerous in the hands of an uncaring, inexperienced owner.

[@yusufebrahim6422]

Ban these dogs it is dangerous

[@richiethehammer251]

People should have to pass a licence test to own any dog.

[@robinpigeon2070]

You don’t need a license to own a gentle golden retriever. You need your head examined if you want to own any sort of pit bull type dog.

[@jukiesjoblom6832]

No way pitbuls will stay in this world

[@Boitu_Matu]

"Pitbull owners should go for a course on how to train this dog breeds" Really this is some nonsense on a grand scale,absolute justification by the owners of this monsters.