It took me 3 hours to do this integral!

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Mu Prime Math

Mu Prime Math

Күн бұрын

Integral of ln(x^2+1)/(x+1) from 0 to 1. Feynman's technique for differentiation under the integral sign, partial fraction decomposition, and so many parts. Oh yeah, this is a fun one.
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@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 5 жыл бұрын
Whoaaaa!!!! I enjoy this very much. Btw, I never thought of doing partial fraction for ln(t+1)/(t*(t+1)) since there’s that ln(t+1) on the top. Very well done!!
@MuPrimeMath
@MuPrimeMath 5 жыл бұрын
I made a video on this problem a month or two ago, but the audio was corrupted, so I've remade it with better quality!
@jitendratiwari6886
@jitendratiwari6886 4 жыл бұрын
wow
@BluePi3142
@BluePi3142 4 жыл бұрын
Even with you erasing parts of your work and simplifying them within the same step, it’s still very easy to follow your process. It only gets a little bit tricky to read the work at the very bottom, and even then you do a great job at explaining. Keep up the good videos :)
@MuPrimeMath
@MuPrimeMath 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, a few people have commented about my handwriting at the bottom of the board, so I will try to work on that!
@BluePi3142
@BluePi3142 4 жыл бұрын
Mu Prime Math I love how now I started watching more of your videos, the old ones are popping up in my recommended lol. I really do like your style, and I do the same thing with erasing/updating parts when I solve problems :P
@BluePi3142
@BluePi3142 4 жыл бұрын
What a fine integral, man... :)
@MurshidIslam
@MurshidIslam 3 жыл бұрын
I see what you did there. :D
@txikitofandango
@txikitofandango 4 жыл бұрын
That was wild! Great presentation, and Feynman's technique is very clear now. Thanks!
@slavinojunepri7648
@slavinojunepri7648 Жыл бұрын
This is a wonderful result for a fascinating integral. Thank you for sharing.
@spintwohalves
@spintwohalves 4 жыл бұрын
Good job! Thanks for the fun video.
@desmondhutchinson6095
@desmondhutchinson6095 5 жыл бұрын
I like the effort you put in your thumbnails !
@juanfco14
@juanfco14 4 жыл бұрын
That was a really nice video , thank you so much.
@chideraachinike7619
@chideraachinike7619 4 жыл бұрын
Duuuuuuuude! You're so cooooool! ❤️ Good math! ✌️
@mamadetaslimtorabally7363
@mamadetaslimtorabally7363 Жыл бұрын
Wow! Tremendously fascinating!
@azmath2059
@azmath2059 4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely sensational mathematics!
@user-wu8yq1rb9t
@user-wu8yq1rb9t 2 жыл бұрын
Just beautiful .... Great I enjoyed a lot (actually I wanna watch it again, definitely!) Thank you so much
@carlosgiovanardi8197
@carlosgiovanardi8197 2 жыл бұрын
Great!! Very interesting evaluation!
@Homayoun197250
@Homayoun197250 Жыл бұрын
Great video. Thank you.
@andrzejpietraszkiewicz7538
@andrzejpietraszkiewicz7538 4 жыл бұрын
Beautiful
@3manthing
@3manthing 4 жыл бұрын
"Oh it definetly works", that made me laugh😆 great video☺
@victormanuelpatosilva1637
@victormanuelpatosilva1637 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant.
@valentinochiola1827
@valentinochiola1827 4 жыл бұрын
Nice video, u are a genious, dude.
@diegopimentelfonseca5379
@diegopimentelfonseca5379 4 жыл бұрын
Wooaaah, new suscriber man! (;
@eliyasne9695
@eliyasne9695 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome! When i tried to solve it i didn't use Feynman integration, i just turned ln(x^2+1) into a power series. It didn't work, i couldn't solve it, but at least i got stuck in a nice result. I showed that the integral will be equal to ln(2)^2 - (sum from 1 to infinity of (-1)^(n+1)*H(2n)/n ) Were H is the harmonic sum. If i had no mistakes (i am not sure about that) then it means i can now use your result to evaluate this bizarre sum. :)
@TheWisator
@TheWisator 4 жыл бұрын
have you tried approximating that bizarre sum with a computer?
@pbj4184
@pbj4184 3 жыл бұрын
Harmonic number sums can usually be evaluated using dilogarithms. Try doing that, it might lead to the result
@jesusandrade1378
@jesusandrade1378 2 жыл бұрын
@@pbj4184 The Maple Calculator App shows indefinite integral answer with dilogarithms
@jesusandrade1378
@jesusandrade1378 2 жыл бұрын
@@pbj4184 ... and the definite integral result in decimal form agrees with (3/4)*(ln(2)^2)-π^2/(48)
@F1U7R2Y9
@F1U7R2Y9 4 жыл бұрын
Cool man ! 👍
@violintegral
@violintegral 2 жыл бұрын
You can also use integration by parts on the integral at the beginning, and then use Feynman's trick for the resulting integral. But I'm not sure if this is actually easier or not. I had to use partial fraction decomposition twice and then evaluate the integral of ln(t+1)/t from 0 to 1, just as you did. I was actually able to solve for the original integral I(1) after I integrated again with respect to t because I(1) popped back up again.
@andreamonteroso8586
@andreamonteroso8586 4 жыл бұрын
very well done...
@muradbashirov6435
@muradbashirov6435 4 жыл бұрын
That was great
@user-lr8od4uz1n
@user-lr8od4uz1n 4 жыл бұрын
Love from Korea
@blackloop1861
@blackloop1861 5 жыл бұрын
Nice video
@ortho5387
@ortho5387 4 жыл бұрын
New subscriber :)
@marinmaths3826
@marinmaths3826 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting!!!
@asp2194
@asp2194 4 жыл бұрын
Really interesting
@HamzaMessaoudi-lu3km
@HamzaMessaoudi-lu3km Жыл бұрын
a nice idea is to do a U substituon, by letting x=t-1/t+1
@khushalpatil711
@khushalpatil711 4 жыл бұрын
oh my goodness!!!!!
@holyshit922
@holyshit922 Жыл бұрын
Leibniz rule comes to dilog which can be reduced to Basel problem
@hoodedR
@hoodedR 4 жыл бұрын
Great proof for ln2 > π/6
@grantplunkett8410
@grantplunkett8410 4 жыл бұрын
*gets integral with T’s* ok that wasn’t too bad I guess *video is halfway done* monkaS
@robertflynn6686
@robertflynn6686 3 жыл бұрын
In a minor change this problem was on the Putnam Math Competition. Lee jung woo solved it in 10 min on board. Note. He was 6yo. Check out his x subst. Method. On the Putnam 3 hours is 1/2 of the morning session... 6 hours.
@jesusandrade1378
@jesusandrade1378 2 жыл бұрын
Lee Jung Woo solve a similar, but different (indefinite) integral: The integrand was ln(1+x)/(1+x^2)
@jesusandrade1378
@jesusandrade1378 2 жыл бұрын
I made a mistake, it was a definite integral from 0 to 1, but for the integrand I said above.
@nafishsarwar2077
@nafishsarwar2077 Жыл бұрын
Using the Maclaurin series I solved it within 1.5 hours, and my answer is [{(3log2)/5} - (6/19)] approximately equal to 0.1001
@kaustavchakraborty811
@kaustavchakraborty811 4 жыл бұрын
integration 1/sqrt(1-x^4) Between limits 0 to 1.. Please do this.
@fourier07able
@fourier07able 4 жыл бұрын
Is it licit exchanges the summation by the integral? Yes!
@dinosaric4862
@dinosaric4862 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video! I would love if you could write a little less messy..
@azzteke
@azzteke 2 жыл бұрын
Would it be possible to use the residue theorem here?
@saraqostahterra4548
@saraqostahterra4548 4 жыл бұрын
How long does it take to get to this level?
@Manuel-pd9kf
@Manuel-pd9kf 3 жыл бұрын
Damn
@farkasmaganyos
@farkasmaganyos 3 жыл бұрын
Nice job! I'd like to know why did you use 0 and 1, when you did the integrating in the variable t. Could you explain it?
@MuPrimeMath
@MuPrimeMath 3 жыл бұрын
We choose the upper bound of 1 because I(1) is the desired original integral, and the lower bound of 0 because we found earlier that I(0) = 0 which makes evaluation easy.
@farkasmaganyos
@farkasmaganyos 3 жыл бұрын
@@MuPrimeMath Ok! Really many thanks!
@bernardofabrica
@bernardofabrica 4 жыл бұрын
3/4[ln(2)]^2 - pi^2/48 = 1/48*(6ln(2)+pi)*(6ln(2)-pi)
@MuPrimeMath
@MuPrimeMath 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting!
@gateaspirant3912
@gateaspirant3912 4 жыл бұрын
Let me tell u one more thing if u interchange the x and x^2 u will get answer as {πln2/8}
@kishoresaldanha815
@kishoresaldanha815 4 жыл бұрын
I would just use Trapezoid rule
@dcwadu6126
@dcwadu6126 3 жыл бұрын
Actually, breaking into power series i actually got quite close approximate to your answer, but yeah it isn't accurate.
@spiritualisautembellator8399
@spiritualisautembellator8399 4 жыл бұрын
(3/4)ln(2)² simplifies to (3/2)ln2.
@MuPrimeMath
@MuPrimeMath 4 жыл бұрын
Remember it's not ln(2²) = 2 ln(2), it's [ln(2)]²
@spiritualisautembellator8399
@spiritualisautembellator8399 4 жыл бұрын
@@MuPrimeMath Oh, yes!, Excuse me!. Good exercise!
@zahari20
@zahari20 4 жыл бұрын
I have one important remark: This technique, differentiating with respect to a parameter, does not originate from Feynman. It is much older. The guy who did this first was called Gottfried Wilhelm Leibniz. He lived three centuries before Feynman and did some other nice things too. Look up "Leibniz integral rule" ans see the examples on Wiki. No need to bring Feynman here.
@denislalaj9345
@denislalaj9345 4 жыл бұрын
This is indeed Leibniz rule for integration. The reason that people refer to it as Feynman's trick is because of how much Feynman used it throughout his life. I'm linking below a great article about how this came to be called Feynman's trick: medium.com/cantors-paradise/richard-feynmans-integral-trick-e7afae85e25c
@tiziocaio101
@tiziocaio101 5 жыл бұрын
Can I ask you an integral question?
@MuPrimeMath
@MuPrimeMath 5 жыл бұрын
Sure
@tiziocaio101
@tiziocaio101 5 жыл бұрын
Mu Prime Math thank you and good video
@tiziocaio101
@tiziocaio101 5 жыл бұрын
Mu Prime Math I’m 16 y/o and I’m learning calculus. I found this integral but I can’t solve it
@tiziocaio101
@tiziocaio101 5 жыл бұрын
Mu Prime Math integral from 0 to -1 of (sqrt(x+1)-2(sixth root(x+1)))/(cbrt(x+1)+1)
@tiziocaio101
@tiziocaio101 5 жыл бұрын
Mu Prime Math I tried by substituting u=sixth root(x+1) and then long division but it didn’t work.
@NinoCuteCute
@NinoCuteCute 4 жыл бұрын
It took me less than 3 hours after this video
@SatyanarayanaMudunuri
@SatyanarayanaMudunuri Жыл бұрын
where is dt in the second step? a vey cluttered presentation
@jserink1
@jserink1 3 жыл бұрын
Its Leibnitz's rule, not Feynman's rule. Cheers, jim
@Observer_detector
@Observer_detector 3 жыл бұрын
F(s)=Laplace{ln(x^2+1)/(x+1)}{s} lim (s→0) F(s) Easy? lol
@MoonLight-sw6pc
@MoonLight-sw6pc 5 жыл бұрын
This bro is really cool! Carry on making good stuff..... "Checking the channal $_$"...,.
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