Italian Monarchs Family Tree | Charlemagne to Umberto II

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Chart & Narration by Matt Baker
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[@UsefulCharts]

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[@samuelwolch1302]

You should do a family tree of the non-Castilian-Leonese monarchs of Spain, one for the Christian rulers of Navarre and Aragon, and one for the Muslim rulers

[@nosgee]

Idea - How is George V related to Tsar Nicholas II

[@Rreackless]

hi matt do a history of germany

[@konotoasita]

Hy, can you please tell me what software you use to make this beautiful videos?

[@mattyd6978]

Not sure if you’ve thought ab this one or not: you did a chart for which US presidents are related and who would be king of the US if we didn’t have presidents… I would be interested in a chart of who becomes President if the current sitting President is deposed/dies/becomes unfit to govern. Like President, VP, Speaker of the House, etc. Just a thought but I think it would be interesting to see how far down the line it goes

[@greeney454]

I love how names sound great in one country, but don’t in another. King Umberto I of Italy sounds great. King Humbert I of England does not.

[@officerbutton9532]

Right?! Juana to Joanna always annoys me

[@Prodigi50]

Humbert isn’t that bad.

[@GigaRoman]

​@@Prodigi50 yes it is

[@MOVIECASTTHENANDNOW]

Like Charlemagne Carlomagno

[@UraidTariq]

who else agrees that Matt is the best person to look up to when you're upset, not feeling the best, or overwhelmed? *he's* always so positive and comical, which always puts a smile on my face even if I'm not feeling the best :)) we love you Matt ❤❤❤

[@ritamargherita]

Exactly where I am right now, and was so happy to see that Matt has dropped a new video. Now I can start feeling soothed again :) ❤️

[@meganmilton]

I'm litliterally sick in bed watching lol

[@doodlebug99]

This comment hit hard. I’ve been having the worst kind of day where nothing goes right at all and you just wanna curl under the blankets and give up and try again tomorrow. That’s exactly what I’m doing because there’s a new usefulcharts video to keep my spirits up♥️

[@Nooticus]

so true!!! he is absolutely one of the best ever

[@Literarydilettante]

Absolutely. One of the best creators to watch on *those* days.

[@IONS-LEGACY]

The Medici family tree to present day would be interesting. - I know it is known that the official family does not exist anymore but would see who their closest descendents are present day

[@dukeoffrance2063]

That is fun that you mention present day and Medici family. They died out

[@TammyJerkChicken]

@@dukeoffrance2063 Haha break out the dna tests, that family definitely has livings members 😂😂

[@dukeoffrance2063]

@@TammyJerkChicken Yes but the main part of the family is gone

[@DesireeMoniqueBorgia]

There are still a few of us left. A more direct descendant would be Prince Lorenzo DeMedici… his mother is from polish royalty and his father a descendant of the DeMedici. Although us descendants share Catherine DeMedici as a great aunt!

[@IONS-LEGACY]

@@DesireeMoniqueBorgia how are you related to the Medici?

[@AntarikshRajkonwar]

It's really cool. I'm also a member of a royal dynasty named 'Ahom dynasty' who ruled Indian state of Assam for 598 years straight and defeated Mughals 17 times. I'm 29th generation direct male line descendant of the founder and first king of Ahom Kingdom Sukapha and we have safely preserve our family tree. (21/11/22)

[@ludovicotriscari4536]

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[@AntarikshRajkonwar]

@@ludovicotriscari4536 I'm not kidding, also my great great great great great great great grand father (9th gen) was King Jogeswar Singha who was 2nd last king of Indian state of Assam 200 years ago before being annexed by British East India Company. Ofc, now the direct patrilineal male line descendants are more than 100 in number and no longer royal but some of are family members have became Cabinet Minister and Chief Justice of Supreme Court of India.

[@naponroy]

@@AntarikshRajkonwar like almost everyone on earth is related to some King upteen generations ago.

[@AntarikshRajkonwar]

@@naponroy not necessary, in my case my direct patrilineal male line that is my father's father's father's father's and so on were kings and princes of one of the longest dynasties (Google 'Ahom Dynasty' )of the world and the people of our state (Assam, India) still respects us although our country is democratic republic, even when British annexed our Kingdom, they kept giving pension and land grants and honours and a palace to members of our royal family till 1922.

[@constantine7382]

That's awesome!

[@360umbi]

From a long-time fan and an Italian, thank you very much for this video!

[@danielefabbro822]

Its interesting to notice that the institution of "King of Italy" appears exactly during 476 AD after the deposition of the last Roman emperor. Odoacer was the first, Umberto II was the second. From 476 to 1946.

[@samsunglg6671]

It's very refreshing to see a newer version of the chart, the new information provided bridges the gap that was left untouched by the first West tree unveiling some of the mystery behind it. Reaction channels will definitely jump on it, thanks again 🥂

[@geraldmeehan8942]

Confusing yet interesting

[@melissacorbett4180]

I like that this video went into the lineage from Charlemagne in detail! After listening to the Witternberg to Westphalia podcasts for the same period, I'm a bit disappointed it wasn't mentioned that Otto I claim to Italy actually came though his marriage to Queen Adelaide of Italy. Berenguer II wanted to marry his son to Queen Adelaide after he had her first husband assassinated (they were both imprisoned by Berenguer II when they tried to stake their claim). The Carolingians were a real royal mess!

[@DonetskiLetsplayshik]

I recommend the history of the germans podcast, the early episodes are all about the carolingians and the ottonians and the podcast goes in depth to explain the context and politics that went on, in an entertaining and up close sorta way. Honestly a very interesting but overlooked place and time, people forget that the whole HRE thing was taken very seriously for the first half of its lifetime.

[@andlabs]

>an Italian king declares the people of Spain "ungovernable" quaestor/praetor Julius Caesar: bruh

[@manuelpinto4809]

Julius Caesar kill and enslave all the ungovernable Iberians, the Italian king could not do the same. They were different times, different methods.

[@oli_3799]

love the video! i just wanted to specify that, although officially northern italy was under the control of the HRE, it's political control already faded with Frederick the second, around the 13th century, leaving communes (cities and then duchies) to rule their territories basically autonomously

[@matteomarongiu-porcu23]

Great narration, as usual, thank you. As a pround Sardinian, I would have loved to see more Sardinian background pre-1720, especially the "Judicates" period, when 4 independent states took power in the Middle Ages, between the ninth and fifteenth centuries (they were sovereign states each with a ruler called judge (judike in Sardinian), with the powers of a king.

[@hamnchee]

8:13 Interestingly, Roger the II's line can be traced back to Anglo Saxon England. The origin of the House of Hauteville goes back to an ancestor there named Roger also. He was a shrubber. Shrubberies were his trade. He designed, arranged, and sold shrubberies.

[@nicko5945]

Yay, this makes me so happy to see these update. The only honest gripe with the previous chart was the lack of Italian representation and so this is an immediate buy for me. Can’t wait to hang this up along with the rest of my amazing Useful Charts!

[@bolle9810]

He forgot to mention that Napoleon was also King of Italy

[@pepperoni952]

Amazing videos as always! I can’t wait to buy the new chart!

[@maius1778]

My excitement is beyond comprehension. Grazie mille, viva l'Italia e viva l'Europa!

[@victor382]

Very nice, you added more detail. Also, nice you skinned out a little more the Crown of Aragon in this video. A full video would be nice on this kingdom.

[@JerkWarlord]

I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS VIDEO FOR YEARS OH MY GOD THANK YOU!!! THIS IS THE MOST EXCITED I'VE EVER BEEN FOR A USEFULCHARTS VIDEO

[@jordanleighwheatley]

Ooh I think I'm going to need this one. I've been doing a lot of ancestry tracing and have recently been doing the My True Ancestry after seeing your video on it. It's really cool to see the people mentioned in your ancient ancestry in a visual chart like this

[@devildog7792]

Hmmm. Heres a alternate history video idea. What if Oliver Cromwell accepted the crown and established a Cromwellian Dynasty? If this was the case, who would be king or queen today?

[@Lana96269]

It would be Richard Patrick Jennings😊

[@xuedi]

Wow, that was wild !! The blend in maps did helped a lot 🙂

[@crazyalabamaguy4970]

I've been waiting for this video for years.

[@thomasdixon4373]

Been waiting for Italy, awesome video as always

[@ruyfernandez]

I am so happy you are finally making this video! I've been waiting for it. By the way, I noticed a mistake on your new chart : Albert 1 of Belgium appears as the brother of Leopold 2, but he was his nephew.

[@UsefulCharts]

Noted

[@gijsfromthenetherlands5668]

It is not them but Boudoin and Albert II, which is correct.

[@ruyfernandez]

@@gijsfromthenetherlands5668 I know Baudouin and Albert 2 were brothers, and I agree there is no mistake in that. I am actually talking about Leopold 2 and Albert 1. At first, it might look like they are correctly shown as uncle and nephew, because Albert 1 appars lower than Leopold 1. But if you look closer, you can see that the hight mismatch is not due to Albert being 1+one generation younger-as it should be-but because of the "House of Belgium" label. Albert 1's father, Philip count of Flandres, is missing.

[@gijsfromthenetherlands5668]

@@ruyfernandez i see what you mean now!

[@Boeje1994]

i think it's fun that in Danish the "Holy Roman Empire" is called "Det tysk-romerske Rige" which translates to " The German-Romam Realm (empire)"

[@debraturner4559]

Love this channel. Very much appreciate all the history you have to study and understand to make all your charts, Matt. I'm so much smarter for watching them. I love learning and you are an excellent teacher and communicator. The collaborations with like KZbinrs are fun too.

[@debraturner4559]

BTW You have explained why there has been such a division between Southern and Northern Italians, partly because they have different histories.

[@rebelguy2684]

These vids give me the same feeling of going mining in Minecraft. So many directions to go, so much to find, but still so much come back for.

[@lake9891]

Love your work! You are an inspiration

[@christianchauhan23]

💛 all your video's mate👍

[@MrPhantommystery]

Thanks, for the new chart, and the focus on the Italian Royal Family, i am interested in the House of Savoy, and this chart is clear about the House of Savoy. The connection to Charlemagne is particularly interesting. 👑

[@buarath9]

Half Europe is connected to Charlemagne

[@jaysha8553]

Can you do Who would be the Reining Monarch of Hawaii today? As a Hawaiian myself I’m very interested.

[@andrewrobs]

You're making me an offer I can't refuse with this chart!

[@Uzair_Of_Babylon465]

Fantastic video keep it up your doing amazing job

[@brendenwright7957]

Side Note - Charles The Fat died in 888... the year 887, was when he was deposed in all three kingdoms in November, a few months before his death.

[@jacobhawley60]

Hello Usefulcharts! I was talking to one of my coworkers, Justin, and we both discovered that we share King Liuvigild as a common ancestor. He was king of the Visigothic Kingdom and if you go to his great great great grandfather, he was married to Iuliana Arabassinos, who was the niece of Emperor Justinian. Cool huh?

[@ruyfernandez]

It's cool that you menaged to find the material proofs of this ancestry of yours. However please note that a person as far back in time as a king of the Visigoths, as long as he has descendants to this day, is most likely a common ancestor to all people living in Europe, the Middle East and even farther today. Matt has an older video about that (it's called something like "are we all descendents of royalty?").

[@matviysukhachov]

Awesome chart!

[@JoutenShin]

Great work!

[@Normal_user_coniven]

Actually, there is also a marriage between the Hapsburgs when the HRE collapsed, and the Savoys when Victor Emanuel united Italy, which made Umberto I a decent of the last Holy Roman Emperors. It is nothing important in history, but it draws a line of where in the monarchies charts did all of the 3 titles -held by the HRE- pass (Germany, Austria & Italy). And, myself, I feel it is the truest line of the historical WRE lines passed compared to the other modern lines, not just because of the historical main Roman lands or the Catholic Church, but also because the Facisim declared that, while the others didn't claim the Roman Emperor title.

[@nohbuddy1]

You should do a video on your favorite regal nicknames like "the bald" "unready" etc

[@NaseerZanki]

Very neat and good chart.

[@OldLady-um9kt]

Please mention about the dates shown under the names as some people are wrongly using those dates as birth and death. Yes, they do it without really thinking about what they are doing. Thank you again for your wonderful charts and videos. You explain the complicated history in such a clear manner. 🌎😊

[@lordarchitect5959]

Great video. I’m glad you dis this one. You should do Grand Dukes of Luxembourg.

[@simonegallo323]

As an Italian, I was waiting for a content like this.

[@buarath9]

Sad, Savoys suck

[@hussain6469]

That new chart is 🔥🔥

[@charlieduke6393]

So excited for this. Excellent work Matt, as usual, and I will be ordering your new chart. Matt are you redoing the Eastern European Royal Family Tree Chart as well?

[@UsefulCharts]

Yup!

[@charlieduke6393]

Awesome I cannot wait to see the final product. I have the old versions of both the East and West and love them. Thanks for all you do, Lord Matt

[@maurogdilalla]

Great job. Only one question: why not include Lombard kings as first kings? You correctly mentioned the iron crown, so maybe these should be considered first kings of Italy

[@UsefulCharts]

I'm also redesigning my Roman Emperors family tree, which will include Odoacer, the Ostrogoths and the Lombards.

[@bigsarge2085]

Fascinating!

[@GigaRoman]

FINALLY,I'M ITALIAN AND I'VE BEEN WAITING SO LONG FOR THIS

[@kingcollette]

I just bought this chart!! Woot Woot! I hope it’s the updated version. How can I tell? Your shop is great. I know what map I want next month!! Thanks for the work you do.

[@UsefulCharts]

If you bought it on our after Nov 17, it'll be the be one.

[@kingcollette]

@@UsefulCharts thank you so much! Your awesome!

[@maucrura]

I like how you included the grand dukes and duchesses of Luxembourg.

[@Menelvagorothar]

As far as I understood, the Holy roman emperors continued to hold the title "King of Italy" until Charles V, he was also the last to be crowned with the Iron Crown of Italy in Pavia in 1530. However the kingdom existed only in northern Italy and it was a kingdom just formally, as it varous parts held almost undisputed autonomy. Still Pavia was considered the capital and the place of coronations. However the next HRE Ferdinand I. did not strive for the title, and I'm not aware of the reason. Probably it's amixture of insignificance (As the Serenissima and Papal states expanded formally the large parts of the Kingdom of Italy were carved out, narrowing it to just Tuscany, Lombardy, Piedmont and Genoa). The Habsburgs ruled in Milan anyway, but passed it to the Spanish line. It should be noted also that the Habsburgs had the plan to expand their italian posessions in the 19th century, as they came to rule more of those indepdendent duchies besides Milan (Modena and Tuscany I think, after the fall Napoleon they also annexed the Venetian territories) and were thus percived one of the main obstacles to Italian unification in the time of the Rsorgimento. They were military defeated during the unification of Italy in 1860 and thus definitely driven out of the italian sphere of influence. Just tought it might be interesting to point those things out.

[@ray23empd63]

the place of coronation actually moved between Pavia and Milan, but the Iron Crown of Italy was always kept in Monza

[@jacobdistefano5673]

Im gonna try to get this charts for Christmas

[@nashpeleuses]

I was wondering when you were going to do this. Personally, I prefer the old style of the chart.

[@joeragliardo]

This is better than the previous charts when the house of Savoy popped out only in 1861. Thus I have to say that, since the Savoy started around 1000 a.c. and gave several Queens around Europe since the Middle Ages, I would have expected at least a word about that. Plus, I would have been glad to see at least Princess Marie Josè of Belgium ( from the House of Saxe Coboug Gotha ) as the last Queen of Italy in the chart since there no Queens of Italy in the chart. Not to mention of Giovanna of Bulgaria, Mafalda Landgravine of Hesse or, for the branch Aosta, Irene and Olga of Greece.

[@LtJackboot]

Matt. When saying Burgundy the accent is on the first syllable. 'BURgndee' if you will. As usual, a fascinating look at the thrones of the world.👏

[@mrmango4435]

Thank you

[@Via_30]

Please make vanderbilt & astor family trees-the richest family in new york, it would be epic!

[@Lampebruder]

I always stop and watch these at least 3 times in case I start to dissociate or if I want to remember these for fun history facts that no one else enjoys but me 😂

[@MaisonLafitte]

That was one of more complicated charts :) but very interesting.

[@Creed-Salazar]

Can you do a tree on the Mesoamerican gods that were worshipped by the Maya and Aztecs? It is a very complex and confusing pantheon and it would be extremely useful to have a accurate and easy to understand reference.

[@thiagoherdy8445]

I see that you included the Brazilian line of monarchs on the chart. Please make a separate video about that, and a Who Would Be Emperor of Brazil! I would love to put a theory to test.

[@hyun-shik7327]

I asked for this on your last video but I think it got buried. Who would be Shogun of Japan today if that government was restored?

[@raiheran]

You should make history of calendar system across the world.

[@phoenixshadow6633]

The House of Savoy also shows up in Byzantine history. Anna of Savoy pawned off the Byzantine crown jewels to fight a civil war which she lost.

[@MistbornPrincess]

Double burn!

[@radec5166]

She was Byzantine empress for 13 years

[@lot8113]

Great video as always, but imo you shouldve mentioned that Umberto I was killed, unlike his bother who survived the assassination attempt.

[@drswag0076]

if you all want to see the rulers of Italy before 476 Mat has a video on the family tree of Roman emperors as well.

[@colbyshelton162]

Hey Matt since you updated the Western European Family Tree chart, are you now going to update the one chart that is dedicated solely to the British Monarchs family tree? I feel that Charles III should be added to that tree as well since it is now outdated. You should do a video on that tree too since I didn't even know it existed until I stumbled upon it on your webpage. Thanks!

[@epicjaguar9725]

Funnily enough I was just watching the who would be king of Italy video right when I got this notification. Coincidence ? I think not.

[@Mikichan85]

Just for pointed... Savoy family exist from the 1000 ac circa. But like "lower nobility" (even they was the Boss of their area. They wasn't under some other king or emperor. Even if they try to accomplished every neighbours they had.) They became "king of something" just in the moment they received sicily (swapped with Sardinia) Was only for explain that in the 1700, the Savoy didn't come from nothing/by random farmers. If you want, there is a nice book that trait their. But I don't know if exist in English also.

[@Kurios3]

Have you done the author of the Three Musketeers Alexander Dumas family tree?

[@jakubkuzminski5670]

Super Film

[@goncalolamy1270]

Hi Matt. I follow your channel and the videos are always interesting. I was trying to buy some of your works in the website but when checking out sometimes do not ship to Portugal but to Spain and I cannot understand this. The shipping price is more than the actual product which is absurd. Is there any way to improve these two points? Thanks and continue the good work!

[@UsefulCharts]

Over the past few years, due to covid and various tax laws changing, shipping to some countries is unfortunately getting difficult for a small company like ours. We're always searching for better options though so hopefully something better will come up in the future.

[@tphilipson9991]

Thank you for this info. AND a link in case I WANT a chart. As yr followers say your videos uplift. Fangs fur ssssharing WOW !!! Just took a peek at yr store. I do not have much wall space , small house lots of Windows BIG yard. Maybe 1 or 2 nxt yr

[@brendenwright7957]

was I the only one who noticed a few of Matt's slip ups... like when he called Philip V of Spain "Charles V"... Oops... I do like the new layout of this chart, the only thing I guess gets at me is the pictures... I think I'm one of those people who prefer quality to accuracy, and when it comes to history, those two do not always mix... An amazing chart though Matt, and a great video, I need to try getting this thing... also, are you going to do the same remake for the North / East chart, or just the West?

[@MagnaMater2]

Did I miss the lines from House Ivrea that should link Burgundry - though 'only' dukes - with the iberic and the german and french ruling families? As far as I understood it, the 'middle' 'phantom-kingdom' and inheritance-questions as descendants of House Ivrea (later Nassau) was - for any reason - often defining on which family-line would rule (but probably grounded in the region being extremely rich and whoever had a rich uncle/aunt in the Rhone/Rhine-axis was prefered) - And talking about rich uncles&aunts, related to all ruling clans, one should not forget the Po-Axis with all the offsprings of Azzo d'Este.

[@revinhatol]

Hi, Matt! Good chart as always! May I request what could have been the Royal Family of Iceland? Don't believe me, I even made a chart on that on the subreddit: just search "Iceland".

[@Rekusasu827]

oh hey revinhatol! i just posted a new chart, how philip v of spain was related to his 2 wives!

[@Replicaate]

Ooh I was wondering how you'd do Italy's kings, seeing as italy as we know it hasn't really been a thing since before the 1870s. A side note, Joachim I is probably my favorite Italian king (who was neither Italian or royal), mostly cos his life story is completely bonkers.

[@Yongle96]

the "italy as we know it" is simply a little part of what italy has been through the last 3 millennia.. it's good that a video like this finally sheds some more light on it. btw, it should be noticed that the title "Rex Italiae" (King of Italy) was first used more than 300 years before Charlemagne, earlier than any other medieval and modern royal titles.

[@josephv8406]

Hey, Matt are you award that some royals migrate to colonial America. So, a chart showing what royalties migrated to America would be very interesting. When I say royals I’m including Lords, Dukes, Earls etc

[@hartinspeedmund1181]

The name of the margrave of Ivrea, father of Berengar II. is ADALbert, not Aldabert. Going to order the new chart anway!

[@redflame21]

Useful Charts, will you ever consider consider having a British version of your site or restocking your charts on amazon so people (like me) in the UK can get your charts?

[@UsefulCharts]

Is Mango Chutney not selling via the UK Amazon anymore?

[@jasoncowley4718]

Not only was Louis pious, he also had a fabulous quiff!

[@Tmccreight25Gaming]

I can't believe you forgot Italy's greatest monarch: King Pizza De'Pasta

[@MGD07524]

Was doing some family history today and I went all the way up to Charlemagne 😂

[@imbyron5356]

You gotta watch Ferdinando and Carolina about Ferdinand I and The Kingdom of the Two Sicilies.

[@filipe2001]

Will you make closed captions for this video? The automatic ones are hard to understand.

[@kerder8660]

Personally I do love ur channel & respect ur work.. Very informative.. Saying that I think u should start to distinguish or inform ahead that many countries u talking about did not exist as they are today.. There never were Germany italy UK etc.. If u talking about today's never mind but bcs u going back Centuries than should be mentioned that such country didn't exist under today's name..

[@yourztruly8255]

U should do a Capetian dynasty chart the one that excludes all the other European dynasty

[@faramundusfrankia9153]

Dude that’s a great idea. The Capetian Dynasty have many members and junior branches ruling in different kingdoms. It would make an epic chart.

[@luxio369]

Also and Olbenburg dynasty chart!

[@MissMac926]

As a Brit, I prefer the old chart, lol. But I did like learning about the Italian monarchy.

[@rinoamenna]

as an italian i lovee the new chart!! i know wayy too much about anglo history yet not even my own 😂

[@AMS860]

Good luck,,👍

[@naponroy]

So... is there still any of CHarlemagne's blood in the last 2 "Kings" there?

[@smudolinithegreatdragobear2433]

Holy cow... this wasn't confusing at all... 😀

[@agniswar3]

Please make a video on the Mauryan empire 🙏🏼

[@Macion-sm2ui]

Are you going to redesign eastern european dynasties too? If so you should place there more "dukes", as in east very often title of king was only prestigeus while the power of duchy and kingdom was similar (for example duchy of Poland wasn't really other country than Kingdom of Poland in XI c., the same with duchy/kingdom of Bohemia).

[@UsefulCharts]

Yup. And yes - East will definitely have some dukes.

[@jordanfalkowski6924]

I dreamed that i was in a place that was like in the grand canyon and looked around and seperate occasions i looked different. Then there was fighting and there was a gold earring that was technology that was left, I was in armor except my face area was dark black and not like melanin.

[@ingabbiato909]

Now you have to correct the chart on regards to denmark

[@wizardsummoner9124]

UC: Charles the fat, who was in fact... Me: Fat. UC: crowned emperor... Me: Almost.

[@lucinae8510]

All I want to know is if the House of Savoy can trace their roots back to Charlemagne, either before or after they become the rulers of Italy.

[@UsefulCharts]

I'm sure they can somehow.

[@Just-A-Little-Magic]

There is no record of that. The founder of the House of Savoy was Humbert Whitehand (Umberto Biancamano), ±990-1048. His father was Amadeus I of Maurienne, brother of Otto of Beiley. Their parents are otherwise unknown, but likely their father was count of Sermorens. The earliest known count of Sermorens was Wigeric, ±820.

[@lucinae8510]

@@Just-A-Little-Magic I don’t mean if their line can be traced back to Charlemagne, but if they ever married one of his descendants. The only reason English/British monarchs can, is because they married French royals so much.