ive's heya and the recent appropriation of Chinese culture

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@严莉莉-p6s
@严莉莉-p6s 4 ай бұрын
I am very supportive of the blogger's point of view. IVE's planning team obviously wants to misappropriate Chinese culture, so please stop this behavior!
@YY-gr9rs
@YY-gr9rs 5 ай бұрын
It does look a lot like cultural appropriation...Can the Koreans show evidence of their culture? Ive been to China for New Year and these elements are indeed frequent there
@buibuiopolismayor7329
@buibuiopolismayor7329 4 ай бұрын
Korea was a vassal state of China’s Ming Dynasty for many years, that’s why they don’t have Emperors, they only had Kings since the Empire is China. That’s why their Kdrama about that period have clothing very similar if not exactly a copy of the Ming Dynasty style of clothing. They also used Chinese as official language for scholar and royal courts. Their own history is mostly recorded in Chinese. But after they gained independence, they try to erase their own history and now try to claim Chinese derived elements as their own original, even to say China copied them (lmao).
@MengWang-kg9jx
@MengWang-kg9jx 5 ай бұрын
I just say that! I only find these in Chinese videos, but never find in Korean museums. Why Korean always do such things? That's not good 😢
@Xin-ho1zl
@Xin-ho1zl 4 ай бұрын
I have been to the British Museum, and I only saw kimchi jars as Korean artifacts, while there are many Chinese artifacts that are beautiful and stunning❤
@l.g.1169
@l.g.1169 4 ай бұрын
@@Xin-ho1zl No offense but this might be because Britain never ransacked Korea and stole their items like they did with China. I’ve been to museums in Korea and there’s a lot more than kimchi jars there. Beautiful art, furniture, pottery, royal artifacts, books and so much more. Just because Starship is being shady doesn’t mean we can disrespect Korean culture in general.
@wangliraul
@wangliraul 4 ай бұрын
I'm from Singapore and my roots are in China. I know a lot about East Asian culture. I know many people don't like CCP, and I also know many people like KPOP. But this does not mean that South Korea can arbitrarily occupy the culture of other countries. Please learn to respect history and facts
@yunshuaige7385
@yunshuaige7385 3 ай бұрын
yes bro. thats the true.❤
@Fanzy-zu1yw
@Fanzy-zu1yw 4 ай бұрын
这件事里最搞笑的是mv 里有个花纹和中国最大的电话卡营销商 中国联通china unicom 的logo一摸一样哈哈哈哈哈哈,而中国联通从1994年就是这个logo 了,而且没改版前甚至就是蓝色的……铁证如山,都不知道韩国人还有什么可以狡辩的
@twentytwoye
@twentytwoye 4 ай бұрын
对啊,联通要是有迪士尼那种精力是真的可以告他乱用联通商标的,,
@石一-c1o
@石一-c1o 4 ай бұрын
@@twentytwoye 好像这个告不了,因为中国结是中国的不是联通个人的
@RobertJones-tv6ez
@RobertJones-tv6ez 3 ай бұрын
不是MV里的,是她们在一个打歌节目布置的背景里出现了中国联通公司的标志。
@mexheix
@mexheix 4 күн бұрын
Ok, but korean also have this knots in their tradition, on wiki page it stated that it originated from China, so they are not hiding anything.
@user-tw5rh8bf9v
@user-tw5rh8bf9v 5 ай бұрын
并非不能借鉴,但绝不允许偷窃
@hyyyyxxyy
@hyyyyxxyy 5 ай бұрын
Вау, это китайский стиль. Вы правы, Корея копирует культуру.
@LucyChan-bx9jo
@LucyChan-bx9jo 4 ай бұрын
Actually they steal and claim it's their culture
@noddrua1451
@noddrua1451 4 ай бұрын
Спасибо ❤
@BBarNavi
@BBarNavi 4 ай бұрын
naxuy idi
@WenliHan-bl3vm
@WenliHan-bl3vm 4 ай бұрын
точно! Это культурная апроприация.
@ziyuzhang-ff7sr
@ziyuzhang-ff7sr 4 ай бұрын
The funniest part is that the Koreans don't even understand the meaning behind certain Chinese elements. In China, white is often associated with funerals, signifying death. So when they see a white Chinese knot, their immediate reaction would be, "Who passed away?
@yemu
@yemu 4 ай бұрын
Yes, I second.
@ALIEN_857
@ALIEN_857 4 ай бұрын
S Koreans just blindly copying, no creativity
@Helen-h8d
@Helen-h8d 3 ай бұрын
yes😂
@rosalynelippington
@rosalynelippington 4 ай бұрын
I’m Chinese Indonesian and yep. This is Chinese. Korean culture may have been inspired by it but this is undoubtedly Chinese.
@user_17542
@user_17542 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for your fair comment❤
@biancacheng6124
@biancacheng6124 2 ай бұрын
I am chinese panamanian, I’ve seen both cultures and don’t see the point in this fight.
@刘金铭
@刘金铭 2 ай бұрын
@@biancacheng6124 Because these things have never appeared in South Korea in the history and even today, the mv you see is the first time that such things have appeared in South Korea, a country has become its traditional culture for the first time. What's the difference between that and a thief?
@biancacheng6124
@biancacheng6124 2 ай бұрын
@@刘金铭are you an archaeologist or an history expert? If not… then I don’t know why I should believe you. I mean, all these comments just seem like hate and bad propaganda…
@刘金铭
@刘金铭 2 ай бұрын
@@biancacheng6124 Some common sense in life, such as the history of one's own country, is to be learned and understood in school here, because these are common objects or cultures in our lives, not just hundreds of years ago, but hundreds of years ago until today, today, July 26, 2024, these cultures still exist in our lives. And some of the objects are common in some of the cities, I mean, I'm sure in Asia, only in China, so it doesn't take a historian to explain it. Do you understand?
@dearth04
@dearth04 4 ай бұрын
upup😭😭博主如果你有tiktok的话感觉流量会比油管好一点
@Tinary-qx5lo
@Tinary-qx5lo 5 ай бұрын
This is Chinese culture! Hope Korean Starship can apologize for the cultural appropriation of this IVE album! Instead of blindly blurred line of sight called the so-called "Korean style"!!
@我是老李-x2t
@我是老李-x2t 4 ай бұрын
yes.😅
@SutarDeng
@SutarDeng 4 ай бұрын
Southief Korea
@guoshi8768
@guoshi8768 3 ай бұрын
他们不会道歉的吧😂
@killeryhiltons8499
@killeryhiltons8499 10 күн бұрын
They love to steal from Japan and China lmao.
@AlisaGoldberg-du8nr
@AlisaGoldberg-du8nr 5 ай бұрын
Once I said I ate sushi, a Korean guy corrected me saying it was Korean gimbap. It's weird. Asian cultures often influence and borrow from each other, so there are some similarities. I don't understand why Korea likes claiming traditional Chinese or Japanese culture as their own simply by making slight changes.
@xnxn_5u
@xnxn_5u 5 ай бұрын
Exactly! Why do Koreans think every East Asian culture as their culture??🤦🏻‍♀️ They do need to respect other cultures
@myys_joyce1186
@myys_joyce1186 4 ай бұрын
😂😂cause they don’t have their own history., or maybe they’re just ashamed of their own culture. They should feel more confident about their culture instead of keeping doing the culture appropriation. They do have many beautiful culture of their own but even themself can’t accept it which is so weird!!!
@Xin-ho1zl
@Xin-ho1zl 4 ай бұрын
South Korea always likes to add Korean style to things and turn them into its own, such as Japanese sushi and American fried chicken. According to this logic, can Kpop also be from Asia
@邹慢慢
@邹慢慢 4 ай бұрын
koreans always want to steal other country‘s culture only by uttering words .how ridiculous they are!they can’t even present evidence to prove their words
@clara-bj4gy
@clara-bj4gy 4 ай бұрын
Korea is the origin of the entire universe😅😅
@KKbehappy
@KKbehappy 4 ай бұрын
ขณะนี้ฉันกำลังเรียนรู้ภาษาจีนในประเทศไทยและศึกษาวัฒนธรรมจีนที่แท้จริง เช่น โบราณสถาปัตยกรรมจีนและภาพวาดภูเขาและน้ำตกของจีน คาดว่าเกาหลีจะหยุดการย้ายถ่ายวัฒนธรรมจีนเมื่อใด ๆ ได้หรือไม่?😢😢😢
@YifeiYang-kh4ir
@YifeiYang-kh4ir 4 ай бұрын
Thank you ❤my friend❤❤❤
@cptbtptp1121
@cptbtptp1121 4 ай бұрын
Thank you ❤
@twentytwoye
@twentytwoye 4 ай бұрын
Thank you❗
@Littlegrapepig
@Littlegrapepig 4 ай бұрын
Thank you🎉😢
@thinthin8024
@thinthin8024 4 ай бұрын
谢谢你
@EchoQAQ
@EchoQAQ 4 ай бұрын
如果可以的話 請各位多多轉發給身邊的朋友 令他們的陰謀消失!如果這次不發聲的話 誰知道他們下次偷的是誰的?保護每個國家的文化 拒絕文化挪用!!!
@erinfeng-c8h
@erinfeng-c8h 5 ай бұрын
It’s ridiculous that Korean call this Korean culture but they cannot even find the conditions for the formation of culture in their own country,like karst landform
@tsukasa1608
@tsukasa1608 4 ай бұрын
Wah...ini membuktikan ternyata Korea Selatan suka klaim budaya negara lain sebagai mereka punya, hampir semua element-element yang dipaparkan dalam MV ini budaya Cina.
@childe6029
@childe6029 4 ай бұрын
Kebanyakan budaya korea mirip dengan China kerana Korea dulunya negara punyaan dynasty Ming pada ribuan tahun yang laku, sejarah dalam China ada record.. Korea pernah ada record tentang dynasty Ming, tapi sekarang korea hapuskan sejarah ribuan tahun Yang lalu, dan cipta sejarah palsu menipu zaman anak korea sekarang, patutlah korea cakap china mencuri budaya meraka kerana mereka tak tahu tentang sejarah yang sebenar.. 🤧
@sleefy2343
@sleefy2343 3 ай бұрын
Indeed and they are very racist against southeast asians No surprise
@sizhefang302
@sizhefang302 5 ай бұрын
South Korean please stop cultural appropriation!!!!
@Shyanne1222
@Shyanne1222 4 ай бұрын
终于有人做这种视频了谢谢up主
@hazekk_vw
@hazekk_vw 5 ай бұрын
あっ、ミュージックビデオ一つにこんなに多くの文化を流用するなんて信じられません😮
@shuwan24
@shuwan24 5 ай бұрын
yes!
@xin4586
@xin4586 4 ай бұрын
Because they are good at stealing……😂
@is8249
@is8249 4 ай бұрын
使っても良いけど、オリジナルだと主張するのはちょっと…
@imougcen
@imougcen 4 ай бұрын
cultural misappropriation
@xin4586
@xin4586 4 ай бұрын
@@is8249 Yes,China welcome culture sharing and co-creation,which does Not mean t Culture, appropriation and stealing.
@Alaia-na
@Alaia-na 5 ай бұрын
We are protecting our culture, but people in other countries think we are crazy, and hope that there will be a platform in the future that can fairly let us prove to each other the origin of culture, rather than relying on the popularity of kpop to steal our culture and blind everyone in the world 我们在维护我们的文化,但其他国家的人觉得我们在发疯,希望未来有一个平台能公平让我们互相证明文化来源的归属,而不是靠着韩国kpop的流行强硬抢走我们的文化,蒙蔽世界所有人的眼睛
@childe6029
@childe6029 4 ай бұрын
说得好!
@白牧-y6m
@白牧-y6m 4 ай бұрын
It's really unfair, it's clear that they are thieves, why are we blamed for being victims yesterday?
@leesimone2645
@leesimone2645 4 ай бұрын
Using kpop and kdrama to steal other countries’ culture is unacceptable!!!
@elv-cv9br
@elv-cv9br 4 ай бұрын
If Koreans think this is your culture, then produce evidence.STOP CULTURAL APPROPRIATION!
@leesimone2645
@leesimone2645 4 ай бұрын
They did PRODUCE evidence before. They stolen a wall painting from a Chinese tomb last century. That wall painting is now in Korean’s museum 😂😂😂😂
@olleh2162
@olleh2162 4 ай бұрын
damn that's wild, it's kinda like your classmate stealing your homework, changed one word, then said that it was their homework. i would be PISSED af if that was me
@jonghyun4716
@jonghyun4716 5 ай бұрын
これは初めてのことではないようです
@yixuanliu2747
@yixuanliu2747 5 ай бұрын
日本也被韓國人偷過嗎
@泽叶-y9j
@泽叶-y9j 5 ай бұрын
韓国は長年にわたり、中国文化と東洋スタイルの融合を計画しており、中国文化を学び、それを韓国で広めた後、韓国文化となった。
@QWQ485
@QWQ485 4 ай бұрын
别的视频评论说韩国人是寿司是他们的哈哈哈,东亚文化有互相影响,但是日本有发展自己的文化,韩国直接拿,真是无语
@煎饼狗腿子W
@煎饼狗腿子W 4 ай бұрын
@@泽叶-y9j 泡面是他们的国宴
@thefatherofkthief
@thefatherofkthief 4 ай бұрын
like Chinese medicine are called Chinese medicine in most countries,however in korea ,they directly change it into“korea medicine”…
@Celia-zt8ww
@Celia-zt8ww 5 ай бұрын
Cette vidéo montre très clairement! L’appropriation culturelle est vraiment honteuse😅
@YifeiYang-kh4ir
@YifeiYang-kh4ir 4 ай бұрын
❤❤❤❤thank you
@flos-flos
@flos-flos 4 ай бұрын
❤❤❤❤thank you
@cptbtptp1121
@cptbtptp1121 4 ай бұрын
❤❤❤
@yuduosu
@yuduosu 4 ай бұрын
Thank you❤
@leesimone2645
@leesimone2645 4 ай бұрын
Thank you ❤
@Helen-h8d
@Helen-h8d 3 ай бұрын
I showed this MV to my friends. Everyone is saying that it is a Chinese element, a traditional Chinese culture, and Chinese culture has continued to this day. Everyone knows. It is also one of the four ancient civilisations.
@meowrax4697
@meowrax4697 5 ай бұрын
We have a lot of historical evidence that these are Chinese cultures😊😊😊
@邹慢慢
@邹慢慢 4 ай бұрын
Koreans even can‘t present only one evidence!they can just by uttering words
@FuRong-5
@FuRong-5 5 ай бұрын
You did quite well. This is the truth. Thank you for letting people know about this!👏👏👏
@Yuxin-jz3uz
@Yuxin-jz3uz 4 ай бұрын
When I was traveling to South Korea, the tour guide said that back to ancient times, only Korean nobles could use Chinese, while average people did not know how to use words!
@Xiaohanchenx
@Xiaohanchenx 4 ай бұрын
Yes because back at old days paper and ink are expensive so only rich people can use words and had the change to learn words.
@Xiaohanchenx
@Xiaohanchenx 4 ай бұрын
*chance
@周周-l1y
@周周-l1y 4 ай бұрын
true
@Sumit_Linger
@Sumit_Linger 4 ай бұрын
Exactly!I have studied Korean, so my Korean teacher told me the thing on the relationship between Korean and Chinese.In ancient Korea, only nobles could use Chinese characters, so that the illiteracy rate of civilians was very high, so King Sejong invented Korean.
@sophia_zxc6722
@sophia_zxc6722 5 ай бұрын
This world needs the right history and the right culture. If you have any claims, please provide convincing evidence like this video❤
@doublestar1031
@doublestar1031 4 ай бұрын
Je suis un Français qui vit en Chine depuis de nombreuses années. Bien que ma compréhension de la culture chinoise ne soit pas aussi bonne que celle des Chinois natifs, les éléments apparaissant dans ce MV sont très cohérents avec la culture chinoise que je connais ! La Corée n'a-t-elle pas sa propre culture ?
@Yingyingzhou-oh1ef
@Yingyingzhou-oh1ef 5 ай бұрын
Those who take possession of things that are not in their own country and speak harshly are called thieves.
@Kuma0.0
@Kuma0.0 4 ай бұрын
East Asian culture is very charming. Although Japan and Korea were influenced by China in ancient times, the Japanese are very creative. They innovate and have developed their own distinctive characteristics. However, Korea is increasingly appropriating Chinese culture and claiming it as their own, causing Korea to lose its original uniqueness. This is truly a pity.
@smoothafbi8840
@smoothafbi8840 4 ай бұрын
I’m so glad the Chinese are verbal about these things cos im not even chinese but I’ve seen so many times people berating Chinese people yet they steal or use Chinese culture shamelessly
@yanxi-de9vi
@yanxi-de9vi 5 ай бұрын
Yes that’s exactly what I want to say
@Lily-jc4mv
@Lily-jc4mv 4 ай бұрын
OMG!!! So disappointed with IVE this time. Can’t believe they copy so many things without apologies!
@Xin-ho1zl
@Xin-ho1zl 4 ай бұрын
I have been to the British Museum, and I only saw kimchi jars as Korean artifacts, while there are many Chinese artifacts that are beautiful and stunning
@moofeyy
@moofeyy 3 ай бұрын
As a Canadian, trying not be biased, but even I thought the music video and props reminded me of Chinese movies and Chinese company online games = especially the fan and those knots, ive seen it on Chinese animated characters before influenced by old chinese dynasties.
@dorothy1345
@dorothy1345 4 ай бұрын
I went to check the historical evidence as Koreans ask me to do. But it seems that they just claimed the relics as Korean, ignoring that these designs were exactly the same as they were in China back at that time and Koreans barely made any change by themselves. Many of the relics were made as tributes for the Chinese emperor, which is recorded in history and also claimed by Korean scholars. Conversely, I once visited a museum in Kyoto, and many of the relics were labeled as Chinese as long as they were Tang style. I was wearing Tang hanfu and a staff recognized that, and this experience really moved me a lot.
@GinaKora-dz9vp
@GinaKora-dz9vp 5 ай бұрын
Very well-made and well-said! Definitely hoping to see more k-pop songs featuring Korean traditional culture, not k-pop combining with obviously other countries’ culture without even acknowledging it. For all Chinese fans, it’s like someone having sushi and claiming it shows Korean style or playing jazz and claiming it sounds like Korean traditional music😂
@AAAmazon030
@AAAmazon030 5 ай бұрын
up!!!!!!!!向上
@praatitsam_CN
@praatitsam_CN 4 ай бұрын
If IVE wants to perform in China🇨🇳, please respect Chinese history and culture. IVE can use Chinese culture in your music, but please admit that it is Chinese culture. 🇨🇳 IVE claim to be Korean traditional culture, so IVE make us angry. By the way, remember it's Chinese culture.🇨🇳
@nyxiekitsune6
@nyxiekitsune6 5 ай бұрын
It’s simply cultural appropriation to lift aspects of one culture and claim it as your own :/ I cannot imagine the outrage this would cause if this was any culture but Chinese. Unfortunately Sinophobia runs rampant in today’s society, but people must learn to differentiate their political opinions from the simple fact that it’s always wrong to appropriate another’s culture as your own, especially in such a disrespectful way.
@Annyu20
@Annyu20 4 ай бұрын
張元英身上那件白色的雙扣在中國古代是家裡有人死掉在穿的 叫壽衣
@happyeeyore9447
@happyeeyore9447 5 ай бұрын
太阳神鸟翻taiyangshenniao就可以了 sun god bird听起来很没内涵 日本韩国在这种传统物品命名上一般都用原来名字的拼音 外国人听不懂只会觉得哇很高级 听得懂的翻译反而会觉得一般
@Xiaohanchenx
@Xiaohanchenx 4 ай бұрын
毕竟是用来科普的 如果不是为了让他们听懂就没有意义了 翻译肯定不是母语者会有很多缺陷 不过只要意思到了不用太注重这种细节
@aaa-zb6fc
@aaa-zb6fc 4 ай бұрын
机翻
@LucyChan-bx9jo
@LucyChan-bx9jo 4 ай бұрын
Hoping Korea stops stealing
@Lily-jc4mv
@Lily-jc4mv 4 ай бұрын
Thank you by uploading this video to let more people know the mistake did by IVE and starship! Support Chinese Culture!
@UULiu-nd7jn
@UULiu-nd7jn 5 ай бұрын
OMG!Korean actually steal it
@YYY45668
@YYY45668 4 ай бұрын
빌려쓸수있지만 중국문화인것을알기바랍니다!!!
@hzyckming
@hzyckming 4 ай бұрын
是的
@Edithskylar
@Edithskylar 4 ай бұрын
There is comment from another video trying to argue that Korea is so influenced by Chinese culture thus it's hard to distinguish the two countries' culture. Well, Korea has been influenced by Chinese culture so long, but the two countries still are so distinguished in culture. Anyone who live in these countries can tell the difference. In fact, the biggest problem is that these elements in the MV have NEVER appeared in Korea history, and all of a sudden it "became" Korean tradition in the company's claim. Chinese knot, palm leaf fan, guess why it is called Chinese knot。。。
@clara-bj4gy
@clara-bj4gy 4 ай бұрын
This is the problem! Japanese dramas are becoming more and more Japanese style while Korean dramas are becoming more and more Chinese style😅
@crptpyr
@crptpyr 4 ай бұрын
Lmao it's not the "Chinese Knot" though, it's gukhwa maedeup, maedeup go back in history to the 3 kingdoms period, Starship ent didn't just make a Chinese knot and pretend it was part of Korea's history. If you look at the knots in the MV compared to Chinese knots vs Korean gukhwa maedeup I hope you'll see which has a closer similarity.
@sherryhuang4506
@sherryhuang4506 4 ай бұрын
Please note, that is plagiarism and culture appropriation. Don’t say something like 'we have similar culture.' I am Chinese, and I eat kimchi, so is kimchi from China? I am Chinese, I also speak English, does that mean English is from China? Just because you use something, it doesn’t mean it's yours. You can change the color, but that doesn’t mean it's yours. How long is your Korean history, and how long is Chinese history? South Korea even used Chinese for a period of time, and now you're saying Chinese culture is yours? What about the Korean museum, Korean old buildings; they literally have Chinese characters, not Korean. You guys have used Chinese culture for a long time, even your Korean identification card has a Chinese name. South Korea keeps using Chinese culture but never acknowledges it's from China because they know many people don’t like the Chinese government, and they know Chinese people cannot access Western apps, so they just post it and people see it and think it's Korean culture. This is bullying, plagiarism, and unacceptable
@agelierlee738
@agelierlee738 4 ай бұрын
博主你配享太庙,有理有据又全面,把我们的控诉让更多人看到
@Jade_-sy2rs
@Jade_-sy2rs 5 ай бұрын
Korean please stop culture appropriation 😅
@mengjunxie3433
@mengjunxie3433 4 ай бұрын
I've done quite a basic research to see what korean landscape paintings and other stuff looks like, and the result is, korean landscape painting are deeply influenced by china, the painters of korean paintings are inspired by chinese landscapes. This isn't supprising at all as korea is such a small country and they don't have such mountains. I believe that chinese pople don't mind the chinese cultures being used by other countries, but you can't just claim it as your own, that is cultural appropriaton and it is a serious matter. In fact, kpop not only took chinese culture, but also japanese, african and others.
@user-zy4il3yl1e
@user-zy4il3yl1e 4 ай бұрын
the way Japanese are able to distinguish Chinese and Japanese culture since they're so distinct but Koreans are reluctant to admit it is honestly ridiculous
@邹慢慢
@邹慢慢 4 ай бұрын
果然,在没有删评的视频下面,画风正常多了!在官方视频下五个评论也就显示一个,真的绝了!
@Xin-ho1zl
@Xin-ho1zl 4 ай бұрын
I have been to the British Museum, and I only saw kimchi jars as Korean artifacts, while there are many Chinese artifacts that are beautiful and stunning❤
@Taylormiya-pd5sb
@Taylormiya-pd5sb 4 ай бұрын
Please be proud of your country's culture, please stop cultural appropriation in Korea🤚🤚
@Flowers-Bear
@Flowers-Bear 5 ай бұрын
買什麼小卡啊 葫蘆娃 動畫裡就有了 還畫的更精緻
@当张
@当张 4 ай бұрын
south korea should no longer misappropriate and plagiarize chinese culture
@AC-lt1lu
@AC-lt1lu 4 ай бұрын
For authentic Korean culture look at N.Korea or Korean Chinese ethic (also called Chao xian zu 朝鲜族 in China), they preserved their culture much better S.Korean(Kpop) does!
@Lainelainehere
@Lainelainehere 4 ай бұрын
Exactly! Seriously I don’t mind innovation towards traditional culture, but if people take it from other countries and make it as their own, they need to go back and read more history books and movies 😂
@byz9051
@byz9051 4 ай бұрын
视频真的很全面!但是在国内社交平台上建议也上传一下!!先由国内热度先带动一下!!希望可以看到这条!
@YifeiYang-kh4ir
@YifeiYang-kh4ir 4 ай бұрын
小红书上有,但是热度不大高
@uJo-kp6nr
@uJo-kp6nr 4 ай бұрын
这视频好像就是小红书滴 看到小红书水印了
@byz9051
@byz9051 4 ай бұрын
b站和抖音也可以投放一下!
@syeiraliu190
@syeiraliu190 4 ай бұрын
South Korea used to be a dependent country of China, and all its cultural origins are passed down from China.
@懿翾韶
@懿翾韶 4 ай бұрын
Thank you to ive and Starship for promoting traditional Chinese art and culture in China. Unexpectedly, the entire MV is full of Chinese culture and can be seen at a glance. Among them, the landscape and auspicious clouds that pay tribute to Chinese art films such as Huluwa are quite outstanding! The use of Chinese knots is also very beautiful, and headwear is very beautiful!
@tomyip8374
@tomyip8374 4 ай бұрын
네, 케이팝은 한국인이 자랑스러워해야 할 큰 문화이지만 영화에 등장하는 요소는 중국 역사와 문화의 독특한 산물인데 누가 한국인의 것이라고 말할 수 있을까요? 당신들 강도예요?
@QWQ485
@QWQ485 4 ай бұрын
竟然有正常的韩国人!话说你们明明有《大长今》这种真正属于你们的文化为什么现在古风剧反而越来越像中国?中国人很迷惑,难道你们自己不觉得奇怪吗?都像这样的话,你们真正的文化反而会失掉
@XinyueYan-ow2zk
@XinyueYan-ow2zk 4 ай бұрын
I don't think so, K-pop is small culture. you know
@tomyip8374
@tomyip8374 4 ай бұрын
@@XinyueYan-ow2zk The influence of kpop has reached world class, this is worth agreeing, but plagiarism is shameful, should apologise to the Chinese people and fans !!!!!
@solsotti
@solsotti 4 ай бұрын
This person is not Korean. This kind of translated language is recognized by all Koreans
@cindycii878
@cindycii878 4 ай бұрын
@@solsotti Is this what you're getting at? Does it even matter if this person is Korean when they keep stealing and plagiarizing Chinese culture in this mv? It's like Korea feels embarrassed about its own culture and just keeps stealing and appropriating other countries' cultures? It's really ridiculous
@zhy3118
@zhy3118 4 ай бұрын
It's a shame that South Korea misappropriated Chinese culture to promote it!As a Chinese, we must speak out, and silence will only make them worse!!!
@Hykxt
@Hykxt 4 ай бұрын
I hope everyone can understand the cultural roots while understanding the culture. Cultural roots need real evidence to prove that China culture can not be turned into its own country with just one mouth.
@路陆-e6q
@路陆-e6q 4 ай бұрын
这就是中国文化,请ive道歉,请韩国停止文化挪用!为什么你们不能使用自己的文化,没有文化自信吗?你们可以大大方方地借鉴我们的文化,但是不要说这是你们自己的文化,这样很恶心,对自己国家的文化多一点自信好吗?!
@路陆-e6q
@路陆-e6q 4 ай бұрын
当然,更重要的是她们的公司需要道歉
@まる-l9q
@まる-l9q 5 ай бұрын
Totally agree
@鴨累
@鴨累 4 ай бұрын
As long as they give credit, the chinese people dont mind at all, the problem is that the korean people claiming it to be all theirs😅😅
@arielz1077
@arielz1077 5 ай бұрын
ive and starship culture thief!shame…😅
@zyikunn
@zyikunn 4 ай бұрын
문화가 있는 나라는 엑스포에 낙선하지 않을거예요.
@chaiyuchen5418
@chaiyuchen5418 4 ай бұрын
I agree that!! It's understandable to feel upset when cultural appropriation occurs. It's important for artists to respect and acknowledge the origins of the cultural elements they incorporate into their work. Acknowledging and celebrating cultural diversity can foster understanding and appreciation among different communities.
@heartisfree-ju3pk
@heartisfree-ju3pk 4 ай бұрын
support, Korea stop culture appropriation!
@linlin-ds8ko
@linlin-ds8ko 4 ай бұрын
Another point is that the person who made this mv studied Chinese painting, but deleted the remarks about "Chinese painting" after the mv was released, she was guilty after all, right?
@ruiruixi-j4e
@ruiruixi-j4e 4 ай бұрын
This is obviously cultural appropriation. Have Starship and Ive responded?
@qiuhuiwang693
@qiuhuiwang693 4 ай бұрын
Starship is trying to deflect this by saying wonyoung is receiving death threats😂
@karennabor7573
@karennabor7573 4 ай бұрын
Bro, I've seen koreans appropriate Chinese culture many times. Lately I've seen it in the Korean manhwas, they take Chinese culture (xianxia/wuxia) and say it's actually Korean culture, I've seen them say that hanfu is a copy of hankbok and I've seen them say that tanghulu and ramen are original to Korea. It seems that true Korean culture is stealing and appropriating other cultures.
@raincloud1040
@raincloud1040 4 ай бұрын
Ah... So that's why I've been seeing what I thought were wuxia manhuas but the characters had Korean names...
@karennabor7573
@karennabor7573 4 ай бұрын
@@raincloud1040 Yes, apparently Koreans call it "murim". The problem is that I've seen Koreans say that those stories are based on Korean folklore when it's really based on Chinese culture. They've even renamed Chinese martial arts (and everything related to wuxia/xianxia) as "oriental martial arts," the same thing they do to not say "Chinese New Year" and instead say "Lunar New Year". When I saw the manhwa "The return of mount Hua sect" for the first time I thought it was Chinese haha it's curious to see that after the international boom of Mo Dao Zu Shi, in Korea they started making dramas and comics with Chinese elements and using the aesthetics of wuxia/xianxia too.
@raincloud1040
@raincloud1040 4 ай бұрын
@@karennabor7573 Yikes... I really like learning about other cultures so hearing that Koreans are rebranding my culture as theirs sucks. I'm sure they have their own culture to show and it's a pity that it'll be hard to learn about since they seem to not care to share it 😞
@tanjw1222
@tanjw1222 4 ай бұрын
@@karennabor7573 its fine if they made something of Wuxia lik how japanese made Romance of Three Kingdom. Bt to chg it up to korean culture is straight no.
@karennabor7573
@karennabor7573 4 ай бұрын
@@tanjw1222 Yeah, there is nothing wrong with appreciating other cultures as long as it's done with knowledge and respect. The problem is that I've seen many times Koreans appropriate and claim as their own aspects of other cultures (mainly other Asian cultures and black culture) while being racist and xenophic with the people of those cultures that they love to steal. You can see it a lot on Tw1tter, there are a lot of Chinese people trying to educate others about the cultural appropriation that Koreans are doing through means like Kpop and comics/manhwas, while Chinese people show historical data and evidence of all kinds, Koreans just say "you're wrong, this is Korean culture". As an example, there's a member of a female hybe group who was surprised to learn that pokemon was Japanese and not Korean. Another is with the manga "Akatsuki no Yona" which has a clear Chinese influence but there are people saying that it's actually Korean culture. I've even seen Japanese people on Tw1tter say: "Japan is good at creating culture and Korea is good at selling it." referring to the fact that Kpop has a lot of inspiration from jpop and Japanese idol culture.
@stephaniehe217
@stephaniehe217 4 ай бұрын
You can watch IVE’s latest interview video. They don’t even know what the auspicious cloud patterns and the embroidery on their clothes are called, so they can only refer to them with a pale “pattern”. This shows that what they use is definitely not their own culture! KOREA AND IVE STOP CULTURAL APPROPRIATION!
@LeiLei-mx5ji
@LeiLei-mx5ji 4 ай бұрын
感谢博主发声
@aaa-zb6fc
@aaa-zb6fc 4 ай бұрын
我的天呐,求星船偷文化之前能不能稍微了解一点,为什么要给女爱豆穿印有“囍”字的衣服😢那是给结婚的人穿的衣服,星船你很希望张元英结婚吗。所以说韩国人根本不知道自己在做什么,他们什么都不懂就敢文化挪用。
@zywho827lucky
@zywho827lucky 4 ай бұрын
For 🇰🇷 this kind of misappropriation of culture is too much, especially their K-pop culture spreads too widely, ive's return MV is mixed with a lot of traditional Chinese cultural elements, and then add some of their own elements can become completely theirs? We are very angry, obviously we are the bullied party, but in their fans perspective, our spit in the face according to reason becomes unreasonable, cultural appropriation of 🇰🇷, beautifully hidden in the attacked aggrieved pathetic under the illusion.
@tyd2649
@tyd2649 4 ай бұрын
There are also auspicious cloud patterns, coin designs, Chinese knots, floral motifs, and the style of painting tigers, and so much more to these. There are so many Chinese cultural elements that I thought it was a promotional video for Chinese culture.🙄🤪
@angela.6317
@angela.6317 4 ай бұрын
This... the Chinese elements are too obvious, right? The Chinese knot animations that keep appearing also have the texture of traditional Chinese brush paintings and fans... China should not ban kpop from using Chinese elements... During the reaction, the members I don’t even know what this is. It’s clearly a Chinese element, but I insist on saying, “We used a lot of Korean elements this time.” Even if it’s a Korean element, you should first look at where the Korean elements come from. Is there any history between China and Korea? Have you studied? Speaking of being ugly, it has nothing to do with Korean elements... There are Korean girl groups that use Chinese elements, such as Gidle's HANN (火花), which clearly expresses Chinese elements and even has Chinese versions of songs that are not their own. Why are they so biased? What if it's your own thing? ? ? It’s really confusing. If this continues, everyone will think Ive is a thief. But they are just members. It’s not wrong. What’s wrong is Starship. Plagiarism is so abominable.
@朱陈呈
@朱陈呈 4 ай бұрын
😂poor south Korea。We understand that creating culture is harder than stealing one 👌
@bbbbrick7924
@bbbbrick7924 4 ай бұрын
This is a complete CULTURAL APPROPRIATION!!!!!!!!!!!!
@Cathy-y-wl1qi
@Cathy-y-wl1qi 4 ай бұрын
Stealing is already a traditional Korean culture😂😂😂😂.
@陈啊-h1f
@陈啊-h1f 4 ай бұрын
This is a total rip off. Can't believe how Koreans shamelessly label this MV as "promoting Korean culture"
@user-zy4il3yl1e
@user-zy4il3yl1e 4 ай бұрын
notice how neither starship or ive can back up why it's specifically Korean culture is enough proof that they don't actually know the history and can only say "oh it's korean culture"
@泽叶-y9j
@泽叶-y9j 4 ай бұрын
The echo mocks her origin to prove she is the original.🙄
@HerinaWei-gn4sq
@HerinaWei-gn4sq 4 ай бұрын
This video compares a lot. Culture appropriation is very serious. Why kpop nowadays can't pay attention to pure music and help their artists become better singers and dancers? It's wired they only find beautiful teenage girls to make quick money.
@lingyu-l8j
@lingyu-l8j 4 ай бұрын
How self-abased Korean literary and art workers are that they don't use their own culture but to steal other country's culture, just because they feel that their own culture can't be taken? I'm so angry!
@zehooolv5077
@zehooolv5077 5 ай бұрын
😮😮Isn't this the thief?
@bowenwang5575
@bowenwang5575 4 ай бұрын
the world should know!!!!!!!!!!
@sapphirezhang-jf7mw
@sapphirezhang-jf7mw 5 ай бұрын
UPUP!
@Gimmewayv
@Gimmewayv 4 ай бұрын
I’m Chinese, IVE may be Should think about it, do not admit to stealing culture, this is not a simple plagiarism, this is the protection of national cultural heritage
@StarTableTennis-i8f
@StarTableTennis-i8f 4 ай бұрын
Both Xiangyun and Shadow Play have been used in the MV. Xiangyun are one of the most auspicious patterns used in China and have a very long history. Clouds motifs have appeared in China as early as the Shang dynasty and Eastern Zhou dynasty.They are one of the oldest decorations and ornaments used in Chinese art. shadow play, type of theatrical entertainment performed with puppets, originated in China and on the Indonesian islands of Java and Bali. It’s wonderful that starship used these elements in the Mv, what the Chinese netizens are angry about is that starship and Koreans are claiming these are all from Korean culture.
@MengjieGao
@MengjieGao 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing and showing us so much evidence! Hopefully Korea will learn to respect other countries' cultures because it's not hard. Instead of taking the time to learn Chinese culture and then steal and call it Korean culture. How about taking the time to learn your own culture in depth, learn the history, and learn respect.
@VitoriaLi-mb5wb
@VitoriaLi-mb5wb 4 ай бұрын
My friend want to say Why does South Korea always want to "take away" Chinese culture? Chinese culture is vast and profound, and has had a profound impact on surrounding regions and countries since ancient times. In recent years, South Korea has blurred and shared traditional Chinese culture, continuously enhancing the discourse power of Korean culture and bringing enormous economic benefits to itself. We are very happy to continuously promote culture and let the world understand Chinese culture. But respect is a prerequisite. If we pollute and invade our culture without a bottom line, we will not agree!
@yijiang1260
@yijiang1260 4 ай бұрын
South Korea please STOP CULTURAL APPROPRIATION!!!!!!!
@kiwilmng
@kiwilmng 4 ай бұрын
This video is very clear about Chinese culture, please Koreans understand the culture correctly, do not steal Chinese culture!
@emmok7039
@emmok7039 4 ай бұрын
谢谢这位创作者的努力!thx!south korea ,please stop cultural appropriation!
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