IWC Pilot Mark XX: It's that good

[@meandertaker]

This is one of the best watch reviews I’ve watched in a long time. Simple, straightforward, sensible.

[@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch]

Cool! Thanks for the positive feedback. It's really appreciated and helps me tune into what works well in terms of style and content. Hope to see you back for more :-)

[@meandertaker]

Already subscribed brother, and am looking forward to the next reviews!

[@b3u3g3g3y]

I have an IWC Mark XX (black with black strap) and I love it. It is beautiful in its simplicity, and I love looking at it. It looks great with a t-shirt and jeans as well as a fancy business suit. It's my favorite watch.

[@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch]

Totally agree. Wish I owned it as well.... Thanks for commenting as well 😀

[@DA_Karas]

The bracelet looks incredible

[@wirsitzmiau9863]

I wish to have one with the leather strapp however the bracelet looks incredible

[@drferto]

If you were to choose between an iwc sport model and you (I of course) dont want a steel bracelet watch...would you go for the big pilot (43 or 46) or the spitfire?

[@ruggsterify]

Couldn't agree more. Impressed by how well you nailed the difference of subtraction to acquire luxury vs addition to try do the same. Yes, I wear my IWC's pilot's to all occasions because they fit in all those situations. perfect video

[@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch]

Glad you liked it, thanks 😀

[@slashdotism]

Awesome case for the Mark XX, only thing missing is how they made the 20 so much better than the 18 from tiny revisions like the date window, upped the WR, more wearable case dimension, new movement with more PR, subtle changes to the indices. No revolutionary changes except for the inhouse movement but all in all they took a great watch, tweaked the details and made the end product much better as a result. The sum of all the changes add up to more than the individual changes so to speak. Great review!

[@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch]

Glad you found it helpful and usefull. 😀👍

[@sebcrown1274]

I just wish they would've kept the date window in the same colour as the dial

[@jamaldaniels5542]

This review has just made me subscribe to your channel. This is the first video I've ever watched of you, but your descriptive ability and vocal tone paired with the visuals helped me to understand this product immensely! You covered it from top to bottom, from the watch's presentation, to the features it offers, to innovations present in this model (from previous versions)- and all the way to a breakdown of its competitor brands like Rolex, Omega and Seiko! A joy to listen to you speak & I will be watching more of your videos surely. P.s. After researching IWC and making two prior visits, I actually went in to shop and bought the IWC Pilot Mark XX today, (stainless steel bracelet in white*)- simply put, from the moment this piece was placed onto my wrist in the store, I knew it was right... the watch chose me. No other watch in the store fit my style as well, or looked as elegant as this one. I'm a happy buyer! 🙂 & Merry Christmas!

[@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch]

Thanks so very much. Happy you found my video useful and welcome aboard 😃😃

[@darylwardsnyder4406]

@@jamaldaniels5542 I also bought the white dial on a bracelet! Love it. So glad you ❤️ yours‼️

[@mjhastings4534]

Went into IWC today because of this video and i can verify it is absolutely beautiful! Blue sunray that bracelet wow ezx change straps , thank you for pointing this out and finding my next watch. Btw beautifully articulated too

[@terrylouis9852]

One of the most insightful watch reviews I've seen...and I watch a lot of reviews. Thanks a ton.

[@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch]

Wow! Thanks for the feedback. Much appreciated. Hope to have you drop by another time 👍😀

[@mgolabek89]

Perfect summary of the design. I really enjoyed the "substraction" part and point of view. I think this is the reason why Grand Seiko doesn't speak to me that much.

[@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch]

Thanks for the feedback. GS is a weird brand with some really die hard fans. I dig the dials but like I said - sometimes just overengineered. Be sure to come around another time 👍😀

[@mgolabek89]

@@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch Sure I'll do and already subscribed too 👍 I find Mark XVIII excellent too, and planning adding one to the collection in 2-3 months. A lot of GS designs are too angular and "pointy" for me, but great watches nonetheless.

[@gdean6002]

I just purchased the mark XX yesterday. I love it! Got in my friends pool and all was great. Then went on a walk with the dog-great. I love the feel and fit. Also, its light and still has a larger watch appeal.

[@darrensalerno3746]

Did you get metal or leather band?

[@gdean6002]

I bought the Green dial a couple weeks back-Love it !! Its very thin and 120 hour reserve is awesome.

[@coffeeboyclips1973]

Own a mark 18 and love it, chose it over the watches you mentioned, it's simple and classy. I would buy the xx but find I prefer the black date window of the 18,apart from that the xx is better in every other way.

[@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch]

They are both great watches, but yes, they nailed it with the mark xx

[@guenthermarschall01]

I agree. I own a mark xviii (black dial, steel bracelet) and I thought about get a mark xx instead, because of all the improvements, especially the movement. But there are four things I like better about the XVIII: 1) the black outline of the hands 2) the completely matt bracelet 3) the black date 4) côtes de genève on the clasp. this all together makes the mark xviii the better looking watch that adds a extra smile every time you open the clasp. and in daily wear, the disadvantages don't really make a difference. except in the head. at least till now.

[@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch]

That’s what makes watches so much fun. We see the same watch and appreciate and notice different things. If I was offered an Xxviii I would never be disappointed

[@user-wi9nn6dz8w]

I like the slightly longer lung-to-lug distance on the Mark XVIII but the XX is also very nice.

[@thomaswschaller]

What a great review and channel - Thanks! I have a modest collection of good watches, but my Mark XVIII is the one I choose most every time. Simplicity, utility, size, wrist feel, looks - it has everything. But the XX has some upgrades that make it compelling. Shorter lug-to-lug width, power reserve, etc. The date window is my only issue on both. Wish they'd just eliminate it completely.

[@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch]

Thanks for the feedback. It's really appreciated 👍😃 It's always tough when a brand updates a model. You love the one you have (hopefully), and then they improve. Keep the old? Buy the new? Have both (luxury option)? Always tough....

[@thomaswschaller]

@@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch went to the dealer here in NYC to try out the XX . It’s perfect . But I’m sticking with the XVIII . Overall a little simpler and not enough of a change to merit the upgrade yet I think

[@charliefrench833]

One of the best watch reviews and more importantly insightful watch videos I’ve seen. Reminded me of art history courses where a great teacher could create for you an entirely new connection to a piece.

[@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch]

Glad you felt it was worth your time 😊😊

[@AmassMoreMoney]

Just purchased the XX, can’t wait to wear it!

[@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch]

Good choice! 😊😊

[@devisiveone]

Great video. IWC gets a lot of flak for their prices, but when you see them in real life they are quite beautiful and are masterfully made pieces.

[@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch]

I have a soft spot for a lot of IWC watches. The whole pilot thing sells well with me. I do wish that they hadn't raised the prices as much as they did when they started doing "in-house" movements in their accessible models. The old ETA prices would have been good for the in house models.

[@flyjbaker]

Porsche is the master of addition by subtraction. IWC the same. My IWC just came in the mail. I am in love!!! Green with brown leather strap…WOW!!! It’ll go well with the Porsche 😊

[@DesertTriDad]

Great points, you’ve managed to discuss all of the things that bug me about other brands. I’ve owned a seamaster and prior generation speedy, and their bracelets were deal breakers. I also agree about the GS cases being too much, I would actually argue the ceramic seamaster is also over done in that regard as well. Maybe my tastes are too simple, but I love a clean dial with Arabic numerals. I have a background in aviation so this watch spreaks to me on many levels. The people that say these are overpriced have likely never handled one, but the “value” argument in watchmaking is insane anyways. Love the content thank you!

[@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch]

Thanks - and thanks for sharing 😃😃

[@ToysNGamesFan]

I have been watching watch reviews from your channel and got a lot out of them. Many thanks! I bought the green dial version with brown leather strap early last year. For me, the green dial goes extremely well with the brown leather strap. I didn't pay attention to much of the technical spec and was simply impressed with their "IWC-manufactured" calibre at this price range (it turns out that the calibre is actually made by a sister company within the corporate group, which to me is still fine). But now I have compared the specs to other watches I have, such as Cartier Tank, a Grand Seiko and JLC Reverso, I am now even more impressed with this IWC timepiece. None of these other watches beat the Mark XX in terms of the specs. It is simple but very elegant, an excellent casually dressy watch.

[@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch]

Thanks for watching and sharing 😀

[@tex24]

Dude! Great video. Informative and educational. I've never thought of 'subtraction' as something that sets a watch apart. You nailed (with words) what I've been feeling about GS watches. I hope to one day own the blue, fluted, jubilee DJ, until then, this is absolutely a contender for my wrist. I've always loved the IWC Pilot line. There's something about the number font and the legibility that has stood out to me. Thanks, mate! Tex

[@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch]

Cheers - thanks 😀😀

[@scott7841]

I am a new subscriber to this channel and just watched the video. It is an outstanding review of the IWC Mark XX! So insightful. And I feel this watch is almost perfect in every way! I am surprised IWC doesn't appear to do more marketing for it. Such a great watch; and I plan on buying it one day - hopefully sooner than later!

[@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch]

Thanks a ton and welcome aboard.🤜😀 It’s really appreciated. IWC are very quiet with their marketing of this watch which is wierd because it is such a strong offering.

[@harry-eto]

...i just fell for it. The simplicity, clairity and still elegance does it for me

[@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch]

It's an amazing watch 😃

[@javierroriguez9829]

I will say my love of IWC is the simplicity and extreme legibility in their pilot watches. I have a chrono pilot and my Rolex went into storage given I had far more utility from my IWC when I traveled for work in low light situations - planes, taxis, etc. I have been in love with Mark watches for some time, but the Mark XX hits the mark for me. I just keep going back to it as one of my favorite watches. My preference in this model is the white dial. I love Mark watches in white dials. Cheers.

[@jamestreloar5827]

I always enjoy watching your videos. You comments are insightful and succinct. Keep up the great work.

[@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch]

Thanks, will try my best 😀

[@Ren-y9c]

I just love the IWC Big Pilot, but the XX does look great just wish it was 42-43 mm. Thanks for bring your thoughts on IWC to KZbin!

[@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch]

Thanks for watching 🙂🙂

[@gpapa31]

If it was 42-43 it wouldn’t be much different from the current BP43 (which btw I also love). the size is perfect for smaller to ordinary sized wrists and hope IWC keeps it that way. After all they do have plenty of offers in the 42/43+ size category.

[@FXSTB-i]

Never owned an IWC but this piece really speaks to me. My family live near Schaffhausen and having been to the museum and lived in the area and learned the history I've decided this is the direction I'm going in. Also love the nod to the past on the caseback. Ill be doing the purchase later today.

[@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch]

Let us know what you bought 😀

[@gaius68]

Great video - thanks for sharing. I tried on the IWC Pilot Mark XX in both green and blue. The green dial is especially iridescent & beautiful. I am seriously tempted!

[@flyjbaker]

Do it. I just got my green one. WOW is all I can say.

[@gaius68]

@@flyjbaker I did indeed purchase the blue dial version - stunning timepiece!

[@ahmada5207]

I been blessed enough to own a modern Sub, vintage Heuer chrono and several Seamasters. For some reason the Mark XX always felt the most perfect one for everything and any occasion, including my wedding. The price could be lowered a bit, but I highly recommend getting one from the secondary market.

[@underachievingwatchcollect1878]

I almost bought a mark18 petit prince on bracelet-great do everything watch. I was a little disappointed with the lume. Definitely buy it on the bracelet (which is probably the best in the business)!

[@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch]

It is really versatile. As of yesterday they discontinued the mark xviii. Now it’s spitfire or mark xx only!

[@harry-eto]

Mine was running fast +16sec/day, a bit much for a brand new watch - it's now in Schaffhausen for recalibration. Together with the in my eyes outdated magnetic protection, i don't see the Cal. 32111 on par with those from Rolex and Omega. The later ones also come with COSC and Metas certification, IWC doesn't provide any of it. Let's see how it runs after the recalibration.

[@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch]

Mine runs spot on, but never good to hear about QC issues 😀

[@harry-eto]

@@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch Quick follow up: now it runs +1sec/day and the world is alright again

[@christaries576]

Got this watch in blue with the bracelet. I think I couldn't get another watch, which would satisfy me more in the price range up to 15k.

[@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch]

Preaching to the choir. I think it’s an amazing watch! 😀🤜

[@davidsankaritalentsourcer9900]

Its the best review of a watch I saw for the moment. Got me hooked on Mark XX white on bracelet. At the moment, theres no other model Id rather like, I couldnt clearly explain why before your theory of addition/substraction. Especially comparing with the GS white birch

[@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch]

Thanks - Glad my little theory resonated with you 😃😃

[@verde629]

I got one and I’m in love lol. Love how subtle it is

[@JudoAndrew]

I currently have the Sinn 556 I-RS and will be upgrading to the IWC Mark XX. For the same reason I love the 556, the Mark XX is a great execution of luxury and simplicity as an everyday tool watch.

[@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch]

Good choice! No. EXCELLENT choice .😀😀

[@thachnguyen5836]

I should have known this channel earlier. I have the same thought about GS even when I like them a lot. Good job man. Subcribed and cheers from Vietnam

[@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch]

Wow. Thanks. Your comment and reaction is really appreciated and yes ... GS is good but it is a very distinctive style that isn't for everybody 😃👍

[@ThanksDirector]

Just added IWC Big Pilot 43 Blue dial. My new everyday watch, just stunning

[@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch]

Good choice. It's a stunner and although some purist would say that 43mm is not a big pilot, I wouldn't agree. I think it's excellent at that size. 😀😀😀

[@nash9625]

Timely video, I'm looking at getting the blue XX right now, currently have a XVIII heritage, debating between the XX and the explorer...

[@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch]

Always a tough choice when you have a previous version of the watch. I have the same conundrum with the new speedy vs the previous model. Get the explorer (if you can) 🙏🤜

[@nash9625]

@@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch thank you much - new Speedy sapphire is fantastic if you're not a hesalite purist, also the bracelet is a nice upgrade and I've heard they now added a micro adjust clasp. Speedy is my all time favorite but I also work in the space industry so it's a must.

[@Valera_Scotland]

Getting my Mark XVI today. Can't wait! They are quirky and brilliant. Mark XX is awesome but I prefer the less shiny more tool looking older models (12, 15, 16 mainly).... and the 16 is half the price, if that matters

[@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch]

Good choice! 😀😀

[@ShakeelDulmar]

Lovely Video well explained. The IWC Mark XX is on my purchase list. And for Grand Seiko, I love their dials but I just can't imagine them on my wrist. You're right they're too much, they should substract some elements.

[@MikSJ08]

Beautiful explanation, understated is underrated!

[@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch]

THX 👍👍👍

[@SessaPaul]

This is the best review I’ve ever heard, well done.

[@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch]

thanks 😊

[@DarjanBar]

fantastic review sir, aesthetic philosophy with a touch of poetry. I think this was my favorite review of all the watch reviews so far. To me the IWC Pilot is the one watch that appears to have nothing left to prove, with a serious go getter attitude, a bit austere, a bit of rugged bunker Swiss attitude to it. It sits right in the middle between elegant and robust. Hard to match...

[@phughes4224]

I bought an XX on a bracelet with blue face. It'a a beautiful watch ... without being overly flashy. Looked at the XV111 but needed the strap to taper.

[@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch]

Totally with you 😀😀

[@jaredcoffin3907]

Wow. Quite a well done analysis. I’m sold.

[@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch]

Glad to hear it! 😃

[@wqsnsr8]

Love IWC, Only thing I don't like about Mark XX is Arabic numbers are closer to the center of dial than Mark 18....but I will definitely upgrade my 18 to 20 in year or so

[@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch]

Upgrading is always a tough choice. Hardly ever does a watch improve every single thing. There’s often one or two things that get subjectively worse Thanks for watching 😀💪

[@goldencalf5144]

Good point about subtracting. True luxury is all about just the right amount of restraint. Grand Seiko struggles with this. The super fancy dial doesn't seem to match the utilitarian case and ordinary bracelet. Even the name Grand Seiko sounds clunky. Unlike most people, I think the problem is in the Grand, not the Seiko, part of the name.

[@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch]

I agree completely. GS could do a lot to become a stronger brand. Thanks for sharing 👍😀

[@darylwardsnyder4406]

I love my IWC Mark XX white dial on a bracelet. The bracelet, alone, justifies the $6000 price tag. I also own the leather and rubber straps which give it a completely different feel.

[@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch]

IT's a fab watch. Bracelet is the same as the one on a Lange Odysseus 😉

[@davidb9531]

Very informed and thoughtful, thank you

[@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch]

Thanks for the feedback - Much appreciated 👍

[@sanghoonlee5171]

It's a brilliant watch but I could not get past the polished 2nd and 4th bracelet links which I regard as an eyesore. I ended up getting a blue Mark XVIII and a bracelet from a black Mark XVIII separately. If IWC releases a new version of XX with a fully brushed bracelet I will switch over to that in a blink.

[@PPN462]

I watched your video a few months ago, went to an IWC AD that opened recently to give the Mark XX a try, and can’t believe how fast I pulled the trigger for such a “simple” watch. Green was a bit too flashy so I went for blue. It is by far one of the best bracelets I have ever worn, very comfy and easily adjustable. If one’s collection has already a few shiny Rolex and GS, I think it is the perfect no nonsense counter-balance to that. IMO its biggest “issue” is that its appearance and all the small neat details that make it easy to wear does not translate well to its price. Maybe I don’t feel as bad about it because I got a slight discount too.

[@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch]

It's a great watch. Sometimes simple is the best way to go 😀😀

[@rypatrick]

I'd love to see the how the green dial looks with the black leather strap that comes with the black dial.

[@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch]

Pretty sure you can buy the strap separately directly from IWC. Not cheap but my guess is it would work rather well…. 😀

[@MrLouislaf]

I’ve long considered IWC, but I just couldn’t be convinced. Plain and too expensive. At 4000 $ maximum maybe? But not in the 6000 $ price range.

[@RoganBryan]

If you know you know.

[@Lead1121]

Agreed! It's $2k too much. The brand just isn't unique enough to charge that extra premium

[@chelious1973]

Well I traded in a 214270 explorer for a Mark XX. These comments are quite misinformed to say the least. If you are a new collector or saving up for your first real watch, at least make a informed point. Do your homework first. Built quality, even. Bracelet IWC by a mile. Movement again IWC, Dial is subjective. IWC and Rolex, Omega are on par with each other. Only newbies think otherwise.

[@FXSTB-i]

@@chelious1973I've sold my Milgauss to buy an IWC. Means I have a new mk20 and also a Breitling Seawolf for a watch that I only bought because it was a sports Rolex. It was admittedly boring on.

[@MrCdmorenot]

I agree with if you know, you know…. XX is worth every penny. Even at retail … just picked it up and I’d be okay getting rid of everything else in my collection.

[@Stoparts]

Bravo 👏

[@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch]

Thanks 😀

[@donaleeesio]

I was never any prouder about my Ingy 3570 with bracelet until watching this vid, except for the 42hr PR.👍

[@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch]

42 hours ain't much by todays standards but it'll get the job done 😀😀

[@greggoode3450]

You are the philosopher of the wristwatch world! (Lol, I mean that as a good thing!) I think I might go for a XX as well!

[@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch]

Very kind of you, thanks 😃

[@michaellemonda14]

Just bought the watch today. Only had it for about 30 minutes but so far so good lol. Genuinely beautiful piece though!

[@BobLorrimer]

I have a real hankering for this watch. There are several clinchers which I need to check out for myself....the comfort of the strap for a start....it looks so cool. The dial too how does it respond in different lighting conditions, the brilliance (a rarity) of the 'on the move' extension by simply depressing the the IWC logo...whoa!! Tell that to other brands. I love my Grand Seiko and my two tone Explorer but, if the thermometer mercury rises beyond the normal, the bracelets can become handcuffs. (I am such a klutz, I still struggle with removing my Rolex and mucking about under a linen table cloth with the reverse fold of the bracelet link.) The power reserve is great too.... Thus the final Clincher will be how does the IWC XX sit on my wrist....and that is the moment of truth - I will either buy it, or not.

[@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch]

You're going through the right thought process. Let me know what you end up deciding 😃

[@Alexander_MD]

I think you made excellent points, especially about bracelets, the Seamaster bracelet is atrocious. One aspect I wish more watch manufacturers would adopt is minimalism like H. Moser does, Just list the brand name on the dials, no need for the extra fluff like automatic, swiss-made, or chronometer..we know it has it! No need to clutter the dial, in my opinion at least.

[@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch]

Moser own the space of dials that do nothing and do it superbly. Totally agree that more should try there hand at "less is more" 👍👍👍

[@meremortal]

I've loved IWC since the 1990's when I owned a Deep Dive for a while (before selling in the crash) and I've always loved their simplicity and style too. I'm happy with my BB41 as it too lacks the pretentiousness of some of the other brands (cough rolex cough). Just a damn good watch doing a damn good job. That's IWC...

[@meremortal]

@@whereRbearsTeeth I earn 100k base p.a., that's not including bonuses and side hussle, my mate runs the main Rolex dealership in my country... if you think for one second I "couldn't afford" one you're a tit. I prefer Tudors, they suit me better and the monochrome of the Sub is dull as hell. Plus a Sub is what every asshole who knows nothing about Rolex gets because it thinks it makes them look cool. It doesn't, it just SCREAMS "I have no style and I'm a pretentious, easily impressed arsehat".

[@johnnyguitar6697]

I am a fan of the Bluemlein era of IWC, who got completely jaded by the Kern and subsequent versions of it. I can honnestly say that the Mark XX is the first model of this company I would consider buying in about 20 years.

[@stuartbrand5617]

The IWC bracelet is awesome.

[@kyeungminkim2018]

I’ve owned mark XVIII and loved it. The xylitol bracelet is one of my favorite overall.

[@MarioGhillani]

I have the mark xviii and also the polaris and the aquaterra. They are all beautiful

[@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch]

Good collection 😊😊😊

[@pendaranroberts4350]

I bought the big pilot 43, then the chrono 43, and now I'm thinking of picking up a Mark XX since they are so cheap!

[@Matt-vj8ou]

I have one, my first luxury watch... I was going to buy a black dial but fell in love with the green the moment I saw it... the photos just don't do it justice it is on a different level to the other options.

[@lamentate07]

Green is the best one for sure. Plays with light in a more dynamic way.

[@jazmulzer4710]

Striving towards a 1 ('luxury') watch collection😊. Can't see past this. Wears better than 49 lug 2 lug suggests but think that's due to the bracelet. Think I'm ready to pull the trigger, might ask 🎅

[@FXSTB-i]

I'm going for it today. Bracelet only for me. I read years ago that IWC bracelets reign supreme but never realised how good they were until i actually felt one. Plus they fly under the radar (excuse the pun) which I kinda like.

[@swbv8915]

It's a great looking watch. If they'd shrink the L to L to 48 and apply lume around the hours, I think it would be even better.

[@MarcSt-s3n]

I would love to hear your thoughts on the Mark XX vs the Spitfire. I am considering the Mark XX green dial as opposed to the Spitfire Bronze.

[@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch]

I'm a Mark XX person myself. For me the spitfire is for the real aircraft enthusiast. It's in the details at the end of the day and what resonates 😀😀

[@Kenzabukuro]

I've worn a Seiko SARG009 as my everyday black dial watch for the past few years, rotating between my silver dal 1601. I recently dropped the SARG and the applied "4" marker slid out of place (I thought it was lume paint!). This is fixable, but I'm taking the opportunity to look around because while I love the SARG009, it is 2-3mm too big and that's always bugged me. Looking independently, the IWC pilot's 36 and the Tudor BB36 look the way to go (unless a vinatge Explorer with painted dial comes along haha). I thought about a black dial OP, but it seems "too easy" and not enough variety.

[@Fb1907kysf]

Thats an amazing watch , when you wear once you throw away all rolexes !

[@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch]

I wouldn't go that far but it is very very good 😃😃😃

[@gpapa31]

Late to the comment party. The Mark XX is an excellent watch but IMHO the Mark XI and XV are THE ones to own from the Mark series. The older standard hands suit the dial better.

[@Nathan-ct9eh]

My problem is that you get 90% of the Mark XX in a laco fleiger pro for less than 1300$... Paying 6000 for a in house movement and power reserve might be your thing, but I'd rather not give up a display window with my 6k too! If you were going into watch shopping with 10k "to spend", then sure go for it, but why not get a laco pro/Stowa and get the same history and also get a Rolex or omega too? Would love to see a video comparing the two, never could tell any other significant differences besides the in house part

[@woodrushwoodrush7076]

Straightforward and cogent review leading to me subscribing. Thanks! Tried on the XX earlier this week. Loved it, but can the caliber 32111 really be considered strictly in-house in that I understand it’s made by ValFleurier (which admittedly is Richemont owned). For some people, this matters if you’re new to luxury watches.

[@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch]

Welcome aboard - Glad to have here 🙂🙂

[@FXSTB-i]

Think of it this way. It's an ingroup movement. No one splits hairs when their Lamborghini uses an Audi engine. Another way to look at it- If IWC is an apartment in Richmont’s building, and Val Fleurier is another apartment next door in Richemont’s building, and the movement is made in Val’s place… is the movement an IWC movement? Does it matter that much? The 32111 is a fantastic bit of engineering and is hardly a Sellita SW200. (that Tudor are still using).

[@theboltonradiocorp]

Love this review, and I'm very tempted by the Mark XX. One thing I want to ask: this watch has a quirk to the movement that means that the minute hand often jumps a couple of minutes when you push the crown back in after setting the time. Does it bother you at all to see such a quirk in a watch at this price?

[@LogicalNimbus]

I love the older version. I’m not a fan of the polished bracelet and how they polished the hands instead of the matte black.

[@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch]

That's the beauty of small changes. They will appeal differently. Always stick with what you like 👍👍

[@rodrigosaccosilva7109]

Started watching your channel and i am really impressed by your way of communicating. Very clear and simples. Congratulations. I am now a follower. Right now i am facing a dilema about what watch should i buy. Aquaterra black in rubber strap; Mark xx white; tudor bb 58 blue. My head says i should buy the omega, but my heart says buy the IWC. Can you tell me a little bit about the white dial of the mark xx and which one is a better choice, since it will be my first luxury watch.

[@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch]

Welcome aboard and thanks for sharing 😀

[@alamohamed8485]

As always. Very well constructed arguments and enlightening wisdom. However, here, most of the arguments used are emotional. IMO, the IWC has the most boring dial ever. Also, specs are good but the buying decision is emotional. You also omitted the beauty of the spring drive continuous sweep and there are more restrained GS models. One thing I failed to catch when Rolex was mentioned, was the explorer example used or the OP? Thanks

[@awilsonatl]

Interesting. Spot on analysis. What do you think of the Yacht Club?

[@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch]

Love the moon and tide version despite it’s proportions 😀

[@davidgant6720]

Great review and a great watch!

[@aliflammim3]

This is a great video. Thanks. But how would you compare the Big Pilot 43 to this Mark XX? I’d really appreciate your take on this subject. Thanks again.

[@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch]

The 43 is a bit too big for some people and not the "real" big pilot to others. I'm more of a XX man. For me the 43 is a compromise. 🙂

[@aliflammim3]

Thanks so much for the reply Mike. I’ve been toying with this for a long time. 43 partly because of the full number display glassback and the lume. I would have gotten the XX too if not for the date window. Price is perfect for the XX after a good disc but the 43 is too steep. Anyway thanks again Mike

[@kristiankjrgaard2173]

Excellent analysis of a great model but I still think that the date should be at 6 for symmetic reasons and the Windows seems cheap.

[@IoanMihali]

Is anybody aware, did they fix the issue of the jumping hand when pulling out the crown, that seems to affect the new calibre that is powering this model?

[@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch]

Good question. I actually own the watch now. Didn't at the time of recording. I have not experienced the problem you mention myself. 😀😀

[@5698max]

Curious to hear your thoughts about the Spitfire!

[@HappyGuy11]

What an interesting analysis of what makes a good luxury steel sport watch. Sure, it's one man's thoughts, but what thoughts they are!

[@sfcmi]

Love your opinion! I’m literally about to buy it and I saw there’s a Silver Plated White dial, with looks much better in person than pictures: can I get it opinion on the white vs the blue? Thanks!

[@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch]

BLue for me, but it's very much up to you. Blue is a little more formal I feel where the white comes across as more "navy". 😊

[@garthglen1]

Great review! Would love to hear your opinion on Laco & Stowa, and specifically the Laco Stuttgart Pro?

[@edwardchang2210]

what an analysis. chef kiss

[@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch]

👍 Thanks

[@Sovereign_sparky]

Very nice but I think I still prefer the BP43 on the bracelet.

[@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch]

The BP is a very nice watch and the crown is just way cooler 😀

[@FredTheDread]

I already own a IWC GST Chronograph and looking for a everyday watch which I can also wear easily the weekend at the beach. We love at réunion island. I hesitate buying a second IWC. Also looking at the seamaster but I don’t like the pointer. Probably the Mark XX is just the right one…

[@lucasxlacerda]

Are you having problems with the movement with the jumping minutes? Im between these and the 18. I like the 18 black date wheel and hour hands better, but everything else I prefer the 20. Im thinking about using these with the rubber b strap as everyday beater

[@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch]

I could do without the date completely. It's the complication I dislike the most on any watch.... 😀

[@Fb1907kysf]

If you wind the watch nearly to full , the minute hand wont jump during the adjustment

[@MikolaiStroinski]

Hmmm… well put. But what about the new black aqua terra?

[@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch]

I want teak deck... 😊😊

[@vloh168]

Their failure to fix the placement of the date window is inexcusable for me. Now that they use an in house movement, the date window placement is the first thing they should’ve fixed.

[@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch]

I could do without the date window completely, but that's just me 👍😁

[@vloh168]

@@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch agreed. Either do it right or don’t do it at all. I was in the market for the Mark XVIII, but once I saw how asymmetrical the date window was as compared to the placement of the 9, I couldn’t unsee it. Completely ruined the watch for me. i was really looking forward to the Mark XX since you’d think they’d fix that with the new version and in house movement. But for some reason they kept the dial asymmetrical. Drives me nuts.

[@Ossory88]

No failure. I think it's exactly where it should be.

[@donaleeesio]

@@vloh168 Don't be too sensitive brow,lol

[@user-wi9nn6dz8w]

I agree that the movement could have had a slightly larger diameter. However, the dial looks quite balanced with where the date window is placed. I wear my green dial version on the steel bracelet with a lot of pleasure.

[@osobad1127]

Debating wither to buy the Mark XX in green. This video pushed me to buy!

[@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch]

Always do what's right for you - 😊

[@ghegeler]

I agree that the Mark XX is a great steel sports watch. I have tried it on at an IWC boutique in Vegas. I just think the type A fleiger dial and aribic font is dated, even if they tie into the history and story behind piece. I want to see something new with a more modern arabic numerals and with same IWC quality movement, bracelet and finishing. I am wearing my Breitling Aerospace from 2004 with a thin titanium case, gray dial and very cool looking arabic numerals. If the Nomos 781 was titanium or less shiny, I would own it. Actually, I am still considering it.

[@ThePianoTester]

So, does the bracelet on the Mark XX tapers or not? Because in the XVIII it didn’t…

[@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch]

The mark xx tapers. I don’t have the numbers at hand but I’m thinking about 2 over the length of the bracelet which is nothing compared to something like the new speedy that goes from 20 to 15.

[@ThePianoTester]

@@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch Yes, but it is good news I think it didn't taper at all, like the XVIII

[@Fb1907kysf]

20 to 18 it tapers

[@chillerhr3804]

beautiful watches IWC’s…❤

[@vntgmike]

Great take on the Grand Seiko! 6:52

[@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch]

It's what I personally think at least, not being an engineer myself .......😀👍

[@andrewkarram239]

Clean watch. Which one did you end up buying? Cheers

[@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch]

I own the mark xx now - Blue dial 😃😃

[@andrewkarram239]

Enjoy it!

[@JoeSmith-np6nz]

Does this have a full balance bridge and silicon spring ?

[@johnhebert3855]

I just got mine. It is an attractive watch, without question. But I can't help but think that without "IWC" printed on the dial, it's just another nicely legible pilot watch with black dial (mine), white arabics, and big hands.

[@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch]

It is a very simple design, yes 😃😃

[@Valera_Scotland]

For these watches, less is more. I do think you get more with IWC. It's very subtle, but worth it

[@themostsnow]

Hi! Would you recommend the iwc mark xx or Tudor black bay heritage (burgundy) bezel

[@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch]

I would recommend both. Both excellent watches in my opinion. It's down to aesthetics I think - which one do you like most? 😃😃

[@themostsnow]

@@Mike.thiswatchthatwatch thanks for the response! I like both but only can buy one! Hence the dilemma