American Reacts to Abnormal Load HEAVY Transport Through Tight UK Streets

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[@susanmaxwell6033]

May i point out they have disassembled the traffic island, street furniture and traffic light to allow the turn. Wow!

[@MrBrianholding]

I live nearby. They definitely have taken down the traffic lights and the pedestrian railings that are normally in the centre island

[@jonnywilson9117]

@@MrBrianholding That's what She already said?

[@9.5.9.5]

​@@jonnywilson9117I just noticed they have removed traffic lights and everything from the middle island. Amazing!

[@phillipbailey70]

Yes - the route got 'shaved' LOL

[@jasonbrown9327]

I live in an area where this happens a lot - we usually get around 1 weeks notice ahead of time with the full route listed, usually on the morning before the load comes through or sometimes the day before you see the workmen taking the lights and things down, they usually just lay them at the edge of the road. Allelys has an office building that I drive past daily never knew what they did though.

[@muddymrt]

From Allelys Facebook post...march 2022.....A first on UK roads! Over the weekend we successfully transported a 150te reactor and a 195te transformer in convoy! Using two of our specialist girder frames to transport the units 40 miles from Shoreham to Ninfield in tandem. Congratulations to the whole team for engineering, managing and delivering such an impressive project.

[@LeHazy]

shoreham to ninfield with that would be a pain

[@Peterraymond67]

The hauler on this video, Alleleys is often featured on one of our TV programmes. The show is called Train Truckers and shows the company moving trains, both heritage steam locos, new locos and rolling stock. Not only do they shift railway stock for the heritage lines but also for the national rail companies.

[@InverhavonRailways]

The real unsung heroes here are the planners who work out the routes, often working out big diversions to avoid overbridges, unsuitable roads etc, and still get to their destinations, also the authorities who arrange for overhead wires etc to be moved/removed and replaced afterwards. It's all a big logistics puzzle they always seem to get right.

[@lilyliz3071]

Yes my friend is a shepherd as they are called and it’s a lot of responsibility getting it right and arranging escorts etc

[@hurtigheinz3790]

Reminds me of my local Autobahn. Heavy transoprter hauling a wind turbine blade couldn't make the turn ON the Autobahn. For about 1 week we had the truck with the blade standing right outside our town. Don't know how they finaly made it.

[@Hewitt_himself]

Whilst there is a much lower kerb than the US all the other features to make it stand out have been removed to allow the turn... the island would usually have railings for a pedestrian crossing plus white trashcan sized marker plastic bollards with hazzard markings and lane arrow, Remember UK road designs also have been designed around the OG mini which can run 10 inch rims... hitting a tall kerb in that sounds fatal similar thing happens with certain sized roundabouts when transporting wind turbines, they just make a road through the centre if going round would beech it on the centre island

[@briancooper562]

In remote areas, like some UK North Wales projects, building new or modifying existing roads is part of the project cost. The roads was designed for for movement of large loads. However what was designed in the 1960's does not always work in the 2020's. Things have got bigger. In the 60's truck engines did not have turbo's, so multi truck lash ups where common. We even used steam road engines The trailer designs came from Army tank transporters and the multi wheel (above 4) across design was yet to arrive. Brakes still used asbestos.

[@matsv201]

Typically when they have a crawl load they can load as much as 15 ton per axel. The loaders have 10 axles each so the totaly load is probobly close to 300 ton. The truck is probobly loaded to 15 ton on the bogie axel and 10 ton on the front as well. Adding a other 50 tons.

[@CherryGS]

Good estimate ;-) "Each load weighs over 300 tonnes and is over 70 metres long." www.brighton-hove.gov.uk/news/2022/abnormal-load-being-moved-shoreham-port-ninfield

[@65Tedybear]

They have 2 (two) axles side by side! One can see it very well at the 2. loader. So you might double the weight! - Unfortunately I don't know the specifics of this type (made by Goldhofer), but for Scheuerle loaders I know them to have a grossweight of 20 tons per axle-line with a payload of 16,25 tons. (Specifics for German streets and a speed of 80km/h (ca. 50 miles/hour) Goldhofer loaders schould have similar weights.

[@drdwatkins]

"The reactor weighing 150te, and transformer weighing 195te, were transported on specialist girder frames with a total combined transport weight of 667te gross travelling in tandem."

[@matsv201]

@@drdwatkins If both trucks and trailers have the same configuration that would imply that the first transport hade a brute weight of 356 ton and the second had one of 311tons. That would be 6 tons of my estimate.

[@iainjones5002]

What isn't often described in these videos, and of late, on television shows demonstrating these huge loads, is the organisation involved. In general it can take many months to set up for the movement. There are laid down rules and regulations in place, covering just when these types of loads can be moved. Invariably, they can only be moved in Daylight hours, and even then, movements can only be made surrounding Rush Hour periods. Only in very exceptional circumstances, are these loads moved at night. There are thorough recce's of the chosen route, so that every possible risk issue along the proposed route is factored in. Ironically, on the route in this video, one issue cropped up at a small middle of town roundabout which meant a hold up whilst the Experts worked out a solution - the problem was a building beside the roundabout was undergoing works to the structure, and scaffolding had been erected around the exterior, projecting out almost to the edge of the pavement. There was a resolution, but the expert drivers and support crews were able to re-negotiate that turn without any problems. Along the entire route taken, the notification processes mean contacting every Local, Parish, Community, County, Regional and Town Councils through whose control the load passes. That means their respective Highways engineers and teams can work ahead of the convoy, removing street furniture, bollards, street railings, Traffic Lights, even lamp posts and then once the convoy has passed through, reinstall everything removed beforehand. Utility companies have to be made aware, especially Phone and electrical supply companies whose personnel often have to raise power and phone lines to allow the convoy to pass underneath safely without snagging on cables. Advance publicity is generally made via local press and other media outlets, especially to make everyone aware, especially in Emergency Services, and Public Transport Groups so they can plan around it and Signs will be set up at least 1-2 weeks in advance on all affected roads to inform motorists.

[@deanwebb1362]

Both trailer units front and rear have got cabs on top of them. They have drivers sat in the cab, steering all the wheels. Enable in it to make tight turns. They can even lift the trailer up-and-down until till tip.😊

[@jarvisa12345]

7:16 The lead truck is probably there in case the one doing the work breaks down.

[@annetunstall967]

On certain routes traffic islands are removable to allow for heavy movement. Ipswich has a number of marinas and to allow for road delivery of the luxury yachts there are several islands that are removed to allow for entrance to the marinas .

[@Naked_DM89]

That lead truck is actually a relief truck in case the the truck breaks down and im pretty sure each piece of heavy machinery hauled has there own relief truck, the dolly's used also have hydraulic suspension so if a curb was too tall they raise the load enough to clear the curb.

[@pa8978]

There is 1 truck pulling and 1 truck pushing.

[@CycloneCyd]

In previous times, I've spectated on big manouvres and I've seen lamp posts , traffic lights and even power lines removed from place to be able to get 'stuff' through. Yeah, that trafficprobably hadno clue, but remember, we're British - Masters of the Art of Queueing.

[@HrLBolle]

To answer your question regarding the tire pressure trucks usually have 9 Bar, unless it's aired down for off-road work, commenting from Germany

[@matsv201]

Driving tries to 8

[@HrLBolle]

@@matsv201 I work as a driver and the trucks at my company in Germany all run tire pressure of 9 bar for all 12 wheels

[@matsv201]

@@HrLBolle in sweden at least have to go 8 bar on the drivers to get the bonus tons for the driver axles.of cause that is only true if its a boggie driver.

[@HrLBolle]

@@matsv201 to complicated, I'll stay in the 40 tons cap zone of Europe

[@JeremyGreysmark]

That blue car is a Skoda Fabia :)

[@automation7295]

Specifically a 1st generation Skoda Fabia

[@SuperE1976]

STGO Cat 3 on front means the max weight is 250t (metric)

[@andrewlaw]

And they run close to it. According to their website it was 239t. 😅

[@patrickcannell2258]

There are Kenworth in the USA and other parts of the world that do this load work too. I recall the International Pacific of the 70s that pulled and pushed these loads too in South Africa. Some loads over 450 tonn. Metric!

[@edward8606]

I'm now catching myself every now and then thinking about a Scota. 😂😂😂

[@londo776]

That's polegate At the start of the video It's electrical substation transformer that's been transported From Shoreham docks To Henley down electricity substation, You can actually see me in some of the shots lol

[@weeardguy]

5:45: it could very well be those wheels are indeed slightly deflated to distribute the weight better. Mammoet in The Netherlands takes care of such transports (besides doing a whole lot of other extremely heavy lifting/moving in the nautical field as well) and such 'duizendpoten' (literally: 'thousand-legs' but millipede is a better word) as we tend to call them can control all axles individually when it comes to height, pressure, angle and speed and such, allowing for some every extreme manoeuvres.

[@brianhepke7182]

Thank goodness the weather was in their favour. And yes... the layman is oblivious as to the skills a driver of any piece of large equipment has...buses, trains, ships, planes, delivery trucks... the list is endless. And the responsibilities that person has when passengers are part of the equation. All kudos to these people.

[@JMac7991]

Something like this came through my town a few years ago but hauling wind turbine blades from port to the new wind farm being built. They came round and chopped some islands back to allow for the turn, removed traffic lights, signs etc and in one case for a particularly tight roundabout, ploughed a gap straight through the middle for the turbine to get through. Many of these works they never reinstated so can still see the evidence.

[@Turn1t0ff]

McMurchy's of Leicester have some beast rigs. Not sure if they have much social media exposure, but I see their tractor units all over the county and a few of their units are insane.

[@BerlietGBC]

This was a two day move , I watched it come out off Shoreham on the Saturday morning and watched though to Patcham, it’s was complicated move due to weak bridges witch meant there had to run wrong side for much of the route as well as put in a temporary bridge at Lewis , a friend of mine was steersman on one of the trailers. This company is well worth following they do a lot of great work The hills you commented on are the south down to the east of Lewis in Sussex Weight I seam to remember each load was over 150 tonne See if you can find the first day off the move when they pushed each load out of Shoreham docks. If you like old heavy haulage lots of good old stuff on here

[@akaxboxoddboiock9792]

I have used Movement Orders where my company applies for roads i am allowed to use when moving wide loads

[@sidm3300]

On the front of the towing truck is the code STGO CAT3 (Special Types General Orders, Category 3) which allows a maximum gross weight of 150,000 KGs (150 tonnes)

[@CherryGS]

The truck might be licensed for STGO cat3 transports, but the transport shown here was not done under STGO rules. It's way to long and heavy for this.

[@philiptodd6255]

Back in the early days from the early 1900 s to the 1970 s Pickfords were one of the main companies carrying very large loads like these they used scammel trucks and trailers until deregulation when any company with large vehicles could do the same work

[@ROBOTRIX_eu]

..the train was there stopped, waiting..

[@sebastiansauer5569]

1:33 Skoda Fabia (6Y - First Generation '99-'07)

[@Elated_Llama]

Like a week ago Steam had a bunch of demos of smaller upcoming games, including one game that is all about this, heavy cargo trucking. And i thought they would start me out nice and slow... but no, had to do essentially the exact same load as this video. (thankfully not through a tiny town) It's called "Heavy Cargo - The Truck Simulator" if you feel like trying such cargo hauling. (demo currently not available, and it is not out yet, but you could wishlist it for some other time)

[@Ali.b1968]

Jobs like this one are planned about 6 months in advance the route is planned out and any street furniture is removed bridge height checked and over bridges weight checked it will weigh approx 250 tonnes. I was talking to 1 of their drivers at a fuel station he had put 1000 litres and still going on a heavy load it will do about half mile to the gallon

[@alexrobinson2281]

They have a guy goes out and measures everything months before the move , clever lad with a tape measure

[@Ghost_Recon_404]

There do have also a truck at the back pushing to help move it forwards

[@jillosler9353]

An island that would fit into Florida with space to spare and has towns that are mentioned in the Doomsday Book. We have dual carriageways and motorways like your Interstate roads, but we also have small market towns and villages where roads were once walkways around farms - but still the large loads get through! The curb is a mini-roundabout.

[@-TomH]

During covid a 200ton oxygen tank came through my town to the hospital. Off the top of my head there was tree surgeons to cut trees, telecommunication to move wires etc, road workers to tarmac above curbs etc if needed. Road workers to move traffic signals etc. These operations cost millions.

[@fatlad5090]

they is a big heavy haulage movement going on Ethiopia 🇪🇹 at the minute. My pal is over there. He is taking 250 ton transformers through the dessert from the docks. £10.000 A month wages. They using a lot of old ex uk heavy haulage units over there. Pulling that weight through a dessert at 50c. the trucks are just about coping with it. just.

[@srfurley]

We have been moving big things for a long time. Try to find a film by British Transport Films called Dodging the Column. It was made in the 1950s I think and shows a distillation column being transported to a refinery in Scotland from Southern England. There was once an accident where a transformer being transported by road was hit by a train on a level crossing.

[@whitecompany18]

And to think there's heavier stones in the pyramids 😳

[@davidburton5335]

Heavier than 14lbs?

[@gar6446]

The granite block in the Kings chamber is around 80 tons. This is maybe double that. But to be fair the granite is elevated which is kinda mindblowing for around 4000 years ago.

[@phillipkey9829]

My Farther was involved in haulage for most of his life after serving throughout ww2. Just as a side observation the landing craft in the end still shots is a at the D-Day museum at Portsmouth. You can see it on google earth if you are interested. Just a little connection with Britain and the USA on June 6 1944. Portsmouth will host a major event to remember the 80th anniversary of this most famous battle and those who fought in it.

[@e94lda35]

Funfact: the Front and Rear Section of the this giant red Trailer can move indepentantly. The Truck on Front just provides generated, compressd Air for lifting and more Power to pull.

[@leebaker8524]

That is polegate at the start, I live a couple miles from there

[@richardhunt1384]

1:42 It's a Sköda Fabia, looks a base spec possible.

[@adamrichardson4110]

The daf and the man are automatics but they have 3 different settings on the gear box so when there pulling heavy loads they can put it in turtle mode and I think the man has about 1000 horsepower

[@edwardwoodstock]

Normal stuff for Allelys.Those trailers are amazing.

[@deanwebb1362]

That lorry is not on its own. You got the lead unit and then you got a push Truck. I'm the trucking front of that. Can also connect to increase pulling and horsepower. Especially for hills. As we do have a lot of them in Britain. Lol 😊😊

[@DIDCOTTWIST]

Seen a video of a Wind Turbine Blade going through a small village

[@mallockracer]

Hey man , you just have to react to this, the Ken Miles cup 2024 at Goodwood, 30 1960's mk1 Ford Mustangs racing at full speed. It's a stampede!!!

[@wesbos9929]

This MAN has a V8. They go up to 680 hp. The difference Between the German V8's and Swedish V8's is the power range. MAN and Mercedes Benz got their torque available from 600 rpm.

[@liamstrange4939]

And the driver of the multi steer was sat in the back in a cab

[@felixalbion]

I live about 40 miles from a large UK port so large loads being moved by road are not that unusual here. Often they are moved by night to lessen the traffic disruption. The last large load to pass through this area was about 450 tons and was spread between 3 loads.

[@NorthEastCoins]

That lead DAF was an IVECO 😏👍

[@brianstevenson9967]

On these jobs there are 2 reserve trucks, one on the lead and one at the rear this is in case of a failure of the pulling trucks in front or the pusher trucks on the rear. Because of disruption on roads there is no time for a repair so reserve truck takes place of failed truck.

[@MrSarcasm101]

Not a science, just skill!

[@paulbromley6687]

I would put money on there being a German person dealing with the overall project. I may be wrong but Helmut or Eric will be being technical and efficient somewhere.

[@jonscott8843]

The reason for the low curbe you mentioned is that the whole island was removed prior to the load coming through

[@gazshearing5020]

I use to make these transformers they are lifted and the the trucks with 2 200ton cranes

[@one.of.two1969]

Hi, my grandfather used to be an hgv driver in 1938 until he stopped when he was 75 years old and my dad untill he stopped at 65 years old but I can't driver a hgv as I have a medical condition I would like to have bin a hgv driver as I use to go on the road with my dad and grandfather like your video keep up with the good work

[@RatchetMonkey]

What fascinates me is how they jack up and move entire houses in the US to a new plot. Maybe you could do a video on that?

[@angharaddenby3389]

That is relatively easy seeing as the houses do not have foundations the way UK houses do. They just sit on the land so ot quite easy to 'jack' them up.

[@RatchetMonkey]

@@angharaddenby3389 I wouldn't say easy myself. I've seen entire brick buildings moved with concrete foundations. Look it up, not talking about houses made from sticks.

[@200milesaway6]

"very big" - oh don't sweet-talk me with your technical language ❤❤❤

[@Stannington]

The haulage firm is pronounced Al-Leh-Leez I think. This is not haulage video, but I think you may enjoy just that same. It's a dash cam drive through part of the Peak District National Park which is about 15 miles West of where I live in the UK. It's great motorcycle country too and is always packed with people at the weekend, particularly when it's sunny. It's mainly moorland above 200 metres sea level (656 feet) and it's dotted with little villages here and there. Most of the trees only grow in very sheltered areas and tend to be pines and Hawthorns. Not my video. kzbin.info/www/bejne/m2jaeZuwh8qKprM

[@TheHeavyduck]

I believe it was close to 500 tones

[@mothmagic1]

I think Allely's must be one of the last companies still doing ultra heavy haulage. I haven't seen them around Oxfordshire for a good few years.

[@patrickcannell2258]

Another British one is Ale Heavy Life. They operate in a few parts of the world.

[@ginvr]

That load was over 300 tonnes and is over 70 metres long

[@charlestaylor3027]

A friend of mine was laying on his couch one night smoking a not entirely legal cigarette and at 10 at night there was a police inspector and constable at his door. The inspector explained a large load was coming through in the middle of the night and could he move his car. He explained he was not legal to drive as he had been drinking. So the police constable offered to move it and return the keys. The constable moved it to a side street and at 3 AM a huge transformer on a massive truck squeezed down his road.

[@gdfggggg]

That would be the logical conclusion

[@paulbromley6687]

Remember our police don’t have the powers that US police have they are generally unarmed, and have to strongly request urge or appeal to the public because they are citizens in uniform with limited police powers they can’t order anyone to do anything, they try it on at times but it depends upon consent. That’s why the people here are quite close to the manoeuvring of the vehicles.

[@derektaylor6389]

it is a manual truck

[@pauldrabble6219]

Check out the ALE Trojans now Mammoet

[@EastSussex999]

This actually happened not far at all from me

[@-R-884]

Skoda is a 7-11 version of vw :)

[@jarrodhofmann3219]

Stgo 3 is for 100+ tonnes

[@douglassayers9109]

The tyres always look like that on tight turn

[@hausmaster9801]

The load is over 600tns

[@willemh3319]

mainland EUROPE AND UK ARE CENTURIES APART

[@richardparker56]

In my youth I did a lot of work for Allelys. Nothing this crazy, but helped with his projects. Maurice Allely also had a great collection of vintage tractors. RIP Maurice Allely. 🙏👍 I’m happy his business is still going strong. 👍👍😁

[@rogerreed905]

I did what he did and checked out Alley's history and how it all started . . Pretty cool . .

[@sudazima]

is that huge red dolly made by allelys or is a mammoet? the little hut on the trucks is that electrical power for the wheels?

[@iainjones5002]

@@sudazima The trailer you refer to is made by Goldhofer, usually one of the regular Girder trailers that Allelys use for very heavy loads like this. The little hut as you describe it actually is for an operator to steer the multiple axles using hydraulics.

[@sudazima]

@@iainjones5002 interesting, not what i expected thx.

[@101steel4]

It's in England, and pretty standard size for roads designed centuries before the invention of cars.

[@intermixhector2902]

love you

[@grannit1980]

"most British cars have steering wheels". Basil Fawlty

[@stuborn-complaining-german]

That MAN truck is the biggest standard heavy duty type MAN builds (except for special mod builds...). It has two steered front axles and two double axles in the back. The regular transmission type for regular big trucks are not "automatic", but fully automated manual transmissions with 12 to 16 gears. This heavy duty truck has a manual 12 speed transmission, but with an additional torque converter in between to allow for superslow driving and manouvering under load like that. That "tower" behind the cab contains sevaral additional air pressure tanks, a big radiator to cool down all the heat from the torque converter and also engine, a big coolant tank, hydraulics and fuel tank (since it has so many wheels there is no room anywhere else...). The frame is reinforced so the torque doesn't twist it. "Goldhofer" as it says on the trailer, is a company that specializes in the manufacture of trailers and purpose made heavy load transport equipment. Almost every time you see a rig like that it's by Goldhofer...

[@seifenraspel2382]

The other big brand for this kind of equipment is "SCHEUERLE", both companies have similar products for special needs. Here they use "Heavy-Duty Modules" and a a girder bridge that it can be quickly and easily converted into a vessel bridge.

[@IWrocker]

Great information thank You 👍😎

[@intermixhector2902]

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[@intermixhector2902]

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[@intermixhector2902]

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[@MichaelCoIIins]

Hey Ian, fyi, the transformer is only the "little" grey box in the middle of the two red arms. The red arms are only load bearing and pivots points for the steering

[@IWrocker]

Oh wow lol thanks for the info 😎🎉

[@scammellman831]

One is a Saturable reactor which was built to a 30 year old design and the other is a Transformer , both built by GE Transformers ,,Stafford . UK the Sat reactor was 150 ton and the Transformer was 195 ton

[@daverutherford6401]

There is a video on a 255 tonne monster being driven through UK streets which is awesome to watch, i myself was in the RCT (Royal Corps of Transport) British army, we had the Antar tank transporter monsters for which we transported Chieftan tanks we could carry up to 100 tons GVW .

[@akyhne]

I live in Denmark, where high curbs are also the norm. But Denmark is also a world leader in wind turbine production. So especially, over the last 30 years, many intersections have been rebuilt, especially around all the factories that make these wind turbines and blades, so that transportation of these giants is much easier. Curbs have been lowered and many roundabouts have an asphalt drive-through with gates that are usually closed, but opened, during heavy, long transports. I lived close to one of these factories for many years, and seeing these transports on the roads was pretty mesmerizing, when I was younger. Now, it's just the norm.

[@akyhne]

And the biggest transport, I've seen on the road (on video), was a transformer, if I remember correctly. It had a weight of 400 tonnes. It was a similar setup to the one in the video.

[@simonmeadows7961]

Not mountains in the background, but the South Downs chalk hills. The full South Downs Way is a 100 mile trail stretching from Winchester to Eastbourne. I've walked the whole lot. It's a wonderful place to be. Nearby is Lewes, which is the only place in England that has seen a fatal avalanche. The site is now occupied by a pub called The Snowdrop.

[@IWrocker]

That’s fascinating 🎉 thanks for clarifying 😎

[@DonaldFraser-c9v]

The drivers of these trucks are the best of the best in the business at what they do. You've reached the top of the driving skills mountain when you are moving these massive loads. I've a lot of admiration for their driving skills when I see them on the road

[@bloodkiss4491]

this transformator was 212 tons at this day

[@liamstrange4939]

The kerbs in the uk are generally small but they would of removed a bollard or a sign😊

[@jonathangoll2918]

This is not my part of the country, but I suspect the hills are the South Downs.

[@paulbromley6687]

I once was driving near Lincoln in England when I saw a massive mis shaped aircraft possibly a super transporter airbus aircraft it flies the wings for the largest aircraft to where they are fitted. It looks in flyable like a massive block unwieldy at low level.

[@sjbict]

AirBus use a plane that looks like a beluga whale

[@VEETEEARR]

I think you would enjoy watching this video of a WW2 British army training film called "Scammell Breakdown Tractor Using Simple 5 to 1 Pull." It shows how to recover and tank from a ditch using a Scammell recovery truck.

[@anthonybeaman]

Allelys is about 4 mile from my house, head office is in Studley, Warwickshire in the centre of England. They have to plan months in advance, and the low kerbs you mentioned would have involved dealing with the local Councils and getting railings and road signs removed where needed. Difficult to advise of pronunciation as English and American dialect differ but here it's something like AL-LE-LEYS

[@angharaddenby3389]

That is why British truck drivers (some of which are women) are among the best and most skilled, if not THE best, in the world to perform acts like that in such severely limited space.

[@BlameThande]

My step-granddad was a lorry driver for ICI for years, you are quite correct!

[@9.5.9.5]

Scandinavian truck drivers are the best

[@Crunch2327]

My old man drove bulk haulage artics for around 45yrs, grandfathered his licence (never took a test) mostly going farm to farm all over the southwest, down all our tight lanes, into small farms. He knew how to reverse. 😂

[@garyhinde1173]

Allelys move some of the biggest things in the UK. This transformer weighed 195 tons + the weight of the double framed carriers.

[@MatthewMcMaster]

Allelys are probably the best heavy haul company in the UK maybe Martrain as well

[@kevinmatthews2620]

you pronounced "allelys" name correctly the first time, the trailer axles are indeed all steerable , they use what is known as a "steersman" to adjust the railer axles height/steer on the fly, if you listen carefully you can hear the "donkey engine" in the background providing the power to the trailer controls

[@denissharp2471]

I did like your understanding of the problems of moving abnormal loads through the small towns of the UK, great narrative from you too, will definitely watch more of your content.

[@irreverend_]

According to a local newspaper "The two loads, weighing roughly 300 tonnes each, took a 41-mile trip from Shoreham Port to the National Grid substation in Ninfield, near Bexhill". So that's a 300 tonne load in the video

[@liamstrange4939]

I’m not an expert but I think it is geared or stick shift

[@b101uk9]

a lot of the heavy haulage trucks are often manual although newer ones may be automated, one thing they do tend to have in common on MAN and Mercedes Benz trucks is a turbo-clutch or WSK etc, this is a combined friction plate clutch and torque converter, so you can use a torque converter for starting and shunting, they switch to manual gears once moving for greater economy and power, if you want to see an example of a turbo clutch, look up the Voith turbo retarder clutch (VIAB) [kzbin.info?search_query=voith+turbo+retarder+clutch]

[@Naanhanyrazzu]

The question itself can only be answered for trucks up to around 350 tonnes. Everything above that is special conversions and then the customer decides what they prefer. I seem to remember a non-road-legal tractor at a German shipyard that had to pull ship engines up to 500 tons, with 32 half-step manual transmissions, and a gear ratio that only allowed around 40 - 45 kmh. I imagine it will be super stressful, but the owner wanted it that way.

[@b101uk9]

@@Naanhanyrazzu well look at it this way, the MAN and Mercedes Benz trucks can operate up to 400 tonnes GTW each in parts of the world like South America on-road, though in Europe they are limited to 250 tonnes on-road each, so for each multiple of 250t there needs to be 1 truck, so a 500t load needs at least 2 trucks on the public road (on private property they can operate at significantly high loads each well above 500t), if we are talking away from the public road, then context come into play, if your looking at a dockyard they they will probably be Alison automatics with pure torque converter as they are not covering distance (if they don't go for the SPMT option which is hydrostatic drive and docks have shifted towards), if you are talking about oilfield in the middle east then for example the 500 tonne and 1000 tonne Titan just use the same engine and driveline as the Mercedes Benz trucks 250T truck, just coupled to lower ratio transfer box will lower ratio heavy axles, so they still use turbo-clutch combination, though they are tailor made to the customer spec. so if the customer wants an Alison they can, but a 6-speed Alison (just a torque converter) offers no advantage over a 12 or 16-speed that is manual or automated AND has a turbo-clutch (torque converter and plate clutch) that has more than twice the gear steps. at one time the Alison units were the only real options at the heavy end of things, but with turbo-clutch combination things have been moving towards them.

[@Naanhanyrazzu]

@@b101uk9 I am only aware of a limit of 250 t in Europe in direct connection with bridges. It is not uncommon for freight weighing more than 500 tons to be on the road. For me it wasn't about which type of gearbox made sense, but rather about the fact that after a certain weight the general offer simply stops and that there are customers who also make decisions that are far from logical. The shipyard example should make this clear, because yodeling up and down 32 gears to get to a speed of 40 would simply be too stupid for me personally, which supports your assessment of an automated solution.

[@b101uk9]

@@Naanhanyrazzu re-read what I said, in Europe on the road for each multiple of 250t requires a truck, thus a load of 250t to 500t requires a minimum of 2 trucks, a load of 500t to 750t requires a minimum of 3 trucks, etc etc, so a load of 775t GVW for example needs 4 trucks connected to it, but in South America that same load could be pulled by just 2 trucks on the road. - my comment had NOTHING to do with the maximum weight of the indivisible load that could be moved, just the minimum amount of trucks based on weight of the load and the "trailer" upon which it sits in terms of GVW. as for the port example, when pulling 500t or 1000t in a port your overall speed is irrelevant, you are not going to be doing 40km/h unless your empty in a port, and if your empty the amount of gears you have above X number is irrelevant, as being empty you will skip gears (also keep in mind 32 gears is just a standard 16-speed gearbox coupled to a 2-speed [high and low range] transfer box as you would find on most AWD trucks or even 4x4 like land rover or G-wagon etc), even a large port or shipyard is a small place relatively speaking which is why slow SPMT have taken over trucks in shipyard etc sectors, because they can with enough of them move tens of thousands of tonne modals operated from a single remote control.

[@huwsalway4099]

And the big advantage of the turbo retarder clutch is that reappeared hill starts are possible where as it’s to be avoided at all costs on anything else. It’s happened to me where I was in a Merc with 150t machine on where we were forced to stop on a steep climb as a lorry came around the corner on a site unexpectedly. No problem restarting but does need the driver to know how it works to get the best from it. Brilliant system especially issues on older ones are now resolved and modified

[@liamstrange4939]

Have you seen any of the diesel brothers they have some unbelievable vehicles heavy d and diesel Dave

[@jim-bob-outdoors]

How strange is that, I was working in that very street today. 😮😮👍👍

[@fozzie221]

When going around tight turns ect a separate person steers the dolly's and can also raise and lower the suspension using air bags to allow the load to go over obstacles such as the kerb