American Reacts to Why "Bad" Coffee Took Over The USA

[@IWrocker]

What is The World's BEST Cup of Coffee!?!?!?

[@eggyyoke1072]

In my opinion, the kind that doesn't have coffee in it. I may be Australian but I personally prefer tea.

[@tammy2281]

Dutch Bros!!!!!!!

[@livertic]

A Melbourne flat white

[@sgtwiggles292]

Must say both USA and Canada have bad coffeel but USA is MUCH worse! Amount of times we had to throw away the coffee because of how bad it was. Tasts like a teaspoon of coffee mixed with 1L of water! Also starbucks is incredibly overrated. Here in NZ gas station coffee is sooo much better and half the price

[@MaxRockatansky17]

All depends, some baristas burn the hell out of it and it becomes so burnt and bitter. So I find it's hit and miss.

[@KingofthePinball]

I have been to high end Dutch coffee 'manufacturer' Blanche Dael in the city of Maastricht. What they told me is that Starbucks is literally the worst coffee you can drink in the Netherlands. The beans are of the cheapest kind and they are roasted way too long, so drinking them without loads of milk or sugar is not even a possibility. The owner of Blanche Dael let me taste some of their coffee and oh boy that tasted great, and I don't even like coffee! They told me: if you need to add a lot of stuff to make it taste nice, the coffee on its own is very bad. I completely agree!

[@janedwards6726]

I had forgotten how good Dutch coffee is.

[@RexAlfieLee]

Worst in Australia too. This is the real reason they failed here. Even Macka's coffee is much better quality but not even at a level of good.

[@Rottnwoman]

It's the worst coffee ANYWHERE.

[@despayre3914]

Hahaha calling what Starbucks serves coffee is like calling a politician honest. 🤣

[@anthony6044]

@@RexAlfieLee &/ 7/11 coffee is better than Starbucks actually for a cheap cuppa 7/11 is good value and tastes better than you think that the price would determine

[@leanne1977]

I'm Australian and i visited a friend who lives in New Jersey a few years ago now. He used to brew me a pot of coffee every morning knowing how much i love coffee. Ughhh... the worst coffee I've ever had. Burnt, strong and bitter and the after taste was nasty. I even tried the coffee in the cafes and restaurants and it was all similar. I couldn't wait to get home to just get a decent cup of coffee. But of course my American friends just tell me that i don't know what a decent cup of coffee is as a response .. i just stay quiet and let them believe that.

[@Sneddz1]

American coffee, from what my friends have told me after visiting, is burnt and bitter with an emphasis on "hot" somehow meaning good. I had starbucks once and it landed in the bin after the 2nd sip. My Sister lives in San Fran and hasnt found a good coffee in the year she has been there. She buys beans from Aus and makes her own. Good coffee is an experience.

[@johne6479]

you did exactly what i did mate, saw a starbucks for the first time, thought why not, tried something recommended by staff . .1 sip and bleh, dropped it in the bin on the way to the nearest cafe for a "real" coffee from a real Barista who takes pride in their work lol

[@carlclifford64]

I have only had Starbucks once, in Vancouver. I ordered a Macchiato. It had caramel syrup in it. I thought that I had been poisoned.

[@Sneddz1]

@@johne6479 Just tasted burnt/bland. There was no soul.

[@timothyduggan2263]

You're spot on re temperature. Good coffee should not be boiling hot. It scalds the coffee and ruins the flavour, as well as potentially the inside of your mouth if you drink it without realising!

[@thatowensbloke]

send her to Peets Coffee in Marina district. closest we could get to coffee from home (Aussie). really good 👍

[@freelanceopportunist559]

As an Australian whose travelled to the US numerous times, and cried looking for a decent coffee (which never happened), I'm going to go ahead and call out these "experts" as referring to low/medium/and high grade coffee from what's available in the US only. They're Americans after all, and that tells me they don't know what they're on about.

[@conm87]

If you’re travelling to NYC, I recommend Little Collins - great coffee. Cafe run by two Melbourne gents.

[@mcveighc75]

@@conm87 Are they associated with the Little Collins cafes in the Melbourne CBD and Notting Hill (Melbourne suburb)?

[@LastAphelion]

@@conm87 Suited, too is run by an Aussie, my god they have some choice gear in there, and a small top selection of US and international beans. Nomad, Apollon's Gold, Little Wolf, Regalia, Sey etc

[@Alex.The.Lionnnnn]

Lmao😂😂😂

[@tukicat1399]

I used to have a cafe, and an American lady told me she did not realise how bad American coffee was until she went back home for a holiday.. was so glad to come back and get a decent cup.. I took my niece to Tokyo and she wanted a Starbucks.. did not finish it!! I think like any craft, small business owners who take pride in their product will deliver.. whether its the US, Australia or Worldwide

[@OLICIT]

I tried coffee in various cities throughout the USA, including highly rated specialty coffee shop in San Francisco in a hipster part of town and the difference with theirs and the rest was it wasn’t as sugary, however very weak tasting, bland and watery. It wasn’t till I arrived in New York (Manhattan) and found Bluestone Coffee a chain owned and run by Aussies throughout the city that I finally had a decent (Australian style) coffee. I feel the specialists are missing the point that the way the milk is heated, steamed and added is also important, which is such a big part of the various types of coffees popular throughout Australia.

[@susanjw7763]

I am hoping they are still there as I am heading to NYC next year.

[@ITubeTooInc]

"I feel the specialists are missing the point that the way the milk is heated, steamed and added is also important, which is such a big part of the various types of coffees popular throughout Australia." They missed the point that good coffee should not have milk in it.

[@Mrdinomist]

Personally Nestle bad coffee is so ingrained in my life so i prefer it to some good coffee. And this is coming from someone from Europe so i feel big margin of Europeans also drink bad coffee.

[@marcusfranconium3392]

In europe we call american coffee coloured water , The netherlands for example have a brand of coffee that has been around since 1753 Douwe Egberts ( D.E) . Starbucks owned if for a brief time to get more dutch in to their stores and failed as every one makes their own coffee and every company has their own D.E coffee machines . And remind you that the dutch owned the regions that produced coffee and moved plants around the world to get the best blends. Starbuck not coffee. Italians persians , austrians , former ottoman empire , greek all created the best coffee for centuries,

[@Suprahampton]

My partner drinks Douwe Egberts instant, i'm a tea drinker but her coffee has a nice smell from the jar

[@Sydneysider1310]

The Italians & Greeks brought their coffee blends and cafe culture to Australia during their mass migration post WW2. Not a surprise why Starbucks never got off the ground down here and had to close most of their stores. It's lolly water, sickeningly sweet and tasteless.

[@marcusfranconium3392]

@@Sydneysider1310 And with one of the primary sources of coffee producers just to the north Indonesia you have a great source of high quality beans, as well.

[@beaconeersofthesevenmaps3467]

In Italy we call it dirty water

[@adambrock3932]

In Australia we call American coffee acid

[@flash_69]

I'm watching from Brisbane, Australia. Our country has some of the best coffee in the world. Funny thing is, we source most of it from everywhere around the world. I work for a coffee roastery and we distrubute fresh coffee all around the country. I get to try blended coffees and flavoursome single origin coffees from around the world. It's the best job for a coffee lover like me.

[@fridaytax]

Can recommend a grower on the Sunshine Coast ( they are at Landsborough) if you want local!

[@shellshell942]

I'm in Melbourne, not a huge coffee drinker but I can tell good coffee from bad just by the smell. I used to catch the train home from work and sit next to a woman who 1 day a week would have a bag of fresh roasted coffee beans and the carriage smelled delicious the whole way home 😆

[@Kev_Newman]

A really good coffee machine is a big part of making a tasty cup. Here in southern Sydney there are many local cafes which make great coffee, but you generally notice the best tasting ones come from the big, fancy machines which cost thousands of dollars. Those who buy such machines for their business also tend to buy the best quality coffee beans. Combination of good beans in a good machine and made by an expert barista gives the best cup of coffee.

[@neumanmachine3781]

The thing is with the local roasters/baristas over in the States is that they are probably catching up on the point Australian local roasters/baristas were at 35-40 years ago. The ‘third wave’ they refer to in the video happened in Oz decades ago, so when Starbucks showed up here the Australian palate had moved well past what they were offering.

[@ariadnepyanfar1048]

The third wave happened in Australia just after WW2 when we fortunately got a heap of Italian, Greek and Turkish refugees.

[@neumanmachine3781]

@@ariadnepyanfar1048 it still took about 40 years for it to spread through the country. As a kid growing up in Brisbane in the 70’s and 80’s coffee shops were pretty rare outside the city and inner suburbs. Most people still drank tea. Brisbane received much smaller numbers of migrants from Mediterranean countries than the other Australian state capitals, so it took a lot longer for the cafe scene to take off. It wasn’t until the coffee club started spreading into the suburbs in the early ‘90’s that it started to accelerate. Once you left SEQ, the rest of the state was still mostly a coffee desert until the last 20 years or so.

[@kimnovak8985]

The best coffee doesn’t come from the chains. It’s those hole in the wall cafes . They tend to care about making and using the best coffee. As an Aussie I have to admit this morning desperately wanting coffee but it was too early for my usual hole in the wall coffee. I had to start at 5 am and the only coffee I could get was Starbucks. Literally it triggered me. I battled through it but didn’t enjoy it but I was desperate for a fluffy coffee heart starter - as I call it. The bitter taste lingered for hours - even drinking water couldn’t get rid of the bitterness. That company definitely knows how to spoil coffee.

[@jessbellis9510]

I wish we banned Starbucks and other chains that are trying to take over Australian shops. Taco Bell, Dunkin Donuts and all of that shit is just gross and doesn't belong here. I don't want Australia to be America Down Under.

[@michaelstevenson2517]

Next time you're stuck like that, just go to 7/11. They are dirt cheap, and it's just one of those automatic machines that grinds and brews. Better than Starbucks, while still not great, but you've only wasted a buck.

[@paulmichaelfreedman8334]

Buy yourself a coffee grinder, a single cup filter holder and some beans of your choice. If you can't get it from your regular hole in the wall, make it yourself. It takes all off a couple minutes to make. I'll admit it's touch to make a cup of BLACK coffee that has a good taste. Any smidge of bitterness explodes right into your mouth with coffee. There's only a handful of coffee brands that actually slides down your throat like silk all the way without a bitter aftertaste. I personal prefer a strong cappuccino because that tastes OK even if the coffee is less good.

[@buchinsku]

@@paulmichaelfreedman8334 I am going to disagree with your suggestion of a single cup drip filter. Espresso coffee is worlds apart from drip filter, even with the same source coffee, there is much to the method. I mean, when pressed and at work or something, I'll drink draino if it had caffeine in it, but drip does not come close to espresso. Even a single cup french press would do better coffee than a single cup drip.

[@xxillicitxx]

Better off having an iced coffee from the servo at that point

[@thatowensbloke]

when us Aussies say "American coffee is garbage", id expect most of us are referring to the dripolator/percolator coffee that is more traditionally found in diners and such. espresso style coffee is what most Aussies are used to these days. i found some excellent espresso in SanFran, but the further east i went, the more common the dripolator unlimited refill swill was. interesting video anyway my dude. love your work.

[@Rottnwoman]

We are Aussies and drink drip filter by choice. American coffee is garbage to us too - suspect that they buy their beans from the roasters' floor sweepings.

[@thatowensbloke]

@@Rottnwoman agreed! dripolator coffee is not bad, provided it hasn't been sitting on the hotplate for hours 🤣

[@andrew_koala2974]

I found the same - In LACA - SFCA - even in San Jose it is not difficult to find Espresso - I was never able to find it anywhere in NJ nor in NYC - In fact when I last visited my daughter in Manhattan NYC - I bought her a small'ish Espresso machine and some VITTORIA and LAVAZZA Coffee + a Coffee grinder - I don't want to go there and drink what is essentially dirty water passed off as coffee - It's borderline fraud. Unfortunately the Banksters are passing off DEBT instruments as money - and it is legal for them to do so - but not for anyone else. Good luck ow-win as they say in Wales.

[@fredvictor752]

As one of the most prized arabica coffees in the world here in Espirito Santo(Brazil), the difference between massive industrialized coffee and the one we bought direct from small farms in the countryside is simply huge. You don't see the need for any addition(milk, sugar, etc...) and the drink is much better tasting comparing the one we bought in supermarkets.

[@cgkennedy]

Sounds like yours is much better than what the USA uses for the drip filters. That tastes like burnt, watery rubbish. I use whole beans that I grind myself. Lavazza is a good one I get in Melbourne, Australia and I use a small barista machine by Sunbeam, which I think is an Australian electronics brand.

[@howellsmithbrad]

Best coffee is in Australia. And I've drunk coffee in over 50 countries. There are documentaries on Australian coffee and that it is the best in the world. It came about with the second generations of people who immigrated from Italy to Australia. Fun fact... McCafe started in Australia and is properly made by a trained barista. Other countries use automatic machines. There is no way you can get filter coffee in Australia. I have never had a better coffee outside of Australia. Even our 7-11 coffees are better than OS.

[@davidlittle7182]

Agree. Lived there for 3 years and still miss the coffee since I returned to Europe 15 years ago

[@niteowl1156]

..Americans Don't know what a "Barista'' is...???...Its a fully trained person who is an expert in making a variety of 20+x Styles of Coffee from a variety of roasted coffee beans....just saying...Yes! French/Italitan & Australian Barista's are the Best in the world!!!!....

[@the1stoldman]

AS a Kiwi from Wellington I would disagree, and would state that once again you Aussies are claiming something perfected/originated in NZ as your own =P

[@stefanavic6630]

@@the1stoldman We will never stop until we have claimed everything good from Kiwi and shipped Rusty Crow back for a refund :)

[@Kunar21]

@@the1stoldman You are dreaming mate

[@seanhickling7340]

I love coffee. I was in the US for quite a while and basically had to give up coffee because it was all so bitter. I just couldn't understand especially as the majority make their own. Here in the UK we have instant coffees that aren't as bad. Starbucks is dreadful. On another subject; what the hell is that black mark in the middle of the screen? I was convinced it must be on my phone 😂

[@marggie4129]

Me too, about the black mark😂

[@mementomori7825]

It's his "blue screen" showing.

[@BlaTaN]

@@mementomori7825 blue screens are so 1980's ..... its green these days ( for a good reason ;) ) 🤪

[@CK8smallville]

Me too, I kept trying to swat the fly away from my screen!!🤣🤣

[@susanjw7763]

I thought it was my phone as well until the video stopped.

[@oblivininja1796]

If anyone is in Tailem Bend South Australia get a coffee from "Little Local Co." Thats my coffee shop

[@erose1710]

I'm a big fan of the Arabica bean and have found that it really depends on the Barista because a bad one can wreck even the best coffee beans.

[@velvetandchester]

I heard somewhere a long time ago that the USA uses milk powder in their coffee where in Australia and I would guess NZ we produce fresh milk dedicated to coffee. I also think the water quality plays a part in exceptional coffee. Then there are the baristasand the beans and the roasters they all play a part.

[@anserbauer309]

I agree, water quality is paramount. I grew up drinking only rainwater (I still don't have mains water) and find the smell and taste of 'town mains-water' very intrusive in any drink. In some places the taste is so overpowering when the water is treated, I can't enjoy a cup of tea or coffee at all and stick to bottled soda water.

[@Ron-uq2hg]

The coffee Whitening powder in the US isn’t even made from milk it made from edible oils and then sometimes flavoured.

[@Twenty_Six_Hundred]

Aussie coffee is the best i have had. The Italian immigrants perfected it here and set it as the standard. It really is that good.

[@juliemcleay1964]

Hi Ian I'm an Aussie that has travel America. I find that the coffee is very bitter over there. I have a great ☕️ shop nearby me. Also what makes a bad ☕️ that they burn the beans that happen a lot with Maccas ☕️. To be a good barista you need to drink coffee and taste what you are making

[@Niki91-HR]

As an European I always have Italy in my mind when it comes to coffee. We Croats are neighbours by sea with Italy and close in some aspects and our coffee culture is pretty similar and I LOOOVE IT. Tbh I knew some stuff about Australia, also because I have relatives there but I never knew that they have the best coffee. Also Starbucks would never work in Croatia. I tried it once in Germany and that had nothing to do with coffee. US American coffee in Europe is known as coloured water xD I will say though, if a barista is bad even the best beans will taste horrible. And I had one or two of these even here in Croatia.

[@matteoruzzon]

I’m from Italy and I agree with all you said. Italian coffe is the best in the world, even the public coffee machine had better coffee than most of the world. Our Mokka coffee is pure macig. I would tell everyone to try Italian coffee because is the best, especially in the south Italy.

[@andrew_koala2974]

All the best to my friends and everyone in SPLIT💅

[@joaquimrequio212]

@@matteoruzzon In Portugal, coffee is also an art, as in Italy. Portugal and Italy are the only true espresso experts in the world.

[@endurojimmy3109]

@@matteoruzzon I totally agree, I'm from the UK and I always buy Italian coffee beans (usually Lavazza Rosso). I have travelled a fair bit, and other than South America I haven't had a good cup of coffee outside of Europe. I prefer a small and strong cup of coffee not like the big buckets of weak coffee they serve in the US.

[@ariadnepyanfar1048]

Australia fortunately received a large amount of Italian, Greek and Turkish refugees just after WW2, and they taught us about coffee culture. The Italians were especially influential, being the largest visible group in the restaurant and cafe business after the war.

[@BradGryphonn]

I have my own grinder and espresso machine and have had for many years. However, on the rare occasion that I buy a coffee, I've found that even the 7/11 coffee over here isn't too bad. I've only ever bought coffee in a specialist cafe a couple of times and decided not to again because I realised exactly how crappy my homebrew was in comparison. Mine is great if I don't have good coffee to compare it to.

[@dylanmonaghan3342]

They attempted to open a Starbucks in Adelaide, Australia but it closed down because we value little private owned Cafes and good coffee haha

[@ryankincade]

Same thing happened in Hobart!

[@Niki91-HR]

Starbucks wont work here in Croatia either. I think they planned to open it in our capital Zagreb but we Croats love our little cafes and it is just a way of life that Starbucks cant beat.

[@bastiwen]

In Switzerland Starbucks only works in big cities with lots of tourists. I Lausanne, the only people you'll see at Starbucks are 15yo girls (and less now that Bubble tea has arrived here in recent years) or tourists, mainly Americans.

[@RobB-vz2vo]

I've tasted coffee in the U.S. & Canada and can confirm that North Americans don't know what they are missing out on. The only coffee that was on par with what we can get in Aus was from a café in New York run by a couple of Aussies. Here's the skinny on why Aussie coffee went from tasting like sh1t to tasting like it should. Post WW2 we had a large migration of people from Europe. They tasted our coffee and said 'Aussie coffee tastes like sh1t!!!!". They then set about importing the expresso machines and organising quality beans. It was initially done to satisfy their fellow countryman's desire for good coffee. It then spread throughout the country when everyone tasted what coffee should be. A very important point that was missed in this video was the importance of quality training for baristas. An untrained person cannot deliver a palatable coffee even from the very best coffee beans.

[@tp84102]

Hey man, I'm from Portugal living in Warsaw, Poland and when I moved here almost 3 years ago, the first thing I noticed was how bad the coffee here is, and expensive too. I mean, in Portugal we drink coffee in a similar way to Italy, espresso is the rule to almost everyone, and almost everywhere you can find a joint with an espresso machine and decent quality coffee. On the other side in Poland the coffee is served in a more "American" way... Latte, huge sized coffee cups, and it doesn't taste good. Kind of like dirty water after washing potatoes, acidic taste and terribly expensive. An espresso in Portugal won't cost more than 1€ and that's pushing, while in Warsaw the same will cost you the equivalent to 2,5 / 3€, but the worst coffee I had was in the Netherlands...

[@henkvandervossen6616]

As dutch, I would disagree. Instant coffee of any brand are the worst, followed by Starbuckd. Overpriced and not really drinkable

[@awmperry]

Starbucks tried to establish themselves in Sweden, but they never really got a foothold. As things stand they’ve got about three locations in the whole country - Sweden has such a long history with coffee, so Starbucks had an uphill battle.

[@Spacenight-pm5uq]

As European i lived in many EU Countries. I really dont know where u can get the best coffe but man...... Sitting on a Plaza in Florence (Itali), enjoying a fresh cup of espresso and watching the world passing by while my world just stop to spin for a minute, was just amazing. P.S. I really looking forward to try Australian Coffee

[@franceskrahe6261]

We spent six weeks in Italy and Aussie espresso is as good as Italy.

[@Spacenight-pm5uq]

@@franceskrahe6261 Well, hope i can spend some days in Australia....maybe next year

[@alfa155corse]

@@franceskrahe6261 ...sure aussie coffie is good but you don't have the Plaza ;-)

[@franceskrahe6261]

@@alfa155corse We really loved Italy, hope to travel there again one day.

[@angelruiz4992]

I'd never exchange anything related with eating or drinking if the choices would be to choose between a Mediterranean country or anything anywhere where they speak English 😜

[@chrisellis3797]

I spent way too much time trying to wipe that black spot off the centre of the video before I realised your back ground had bled into it🤣🤣

[@josiehudson4143]

same

[@evanflynn4680]

Australian coffee: We probably have some of the best coffee, but we got our coffee culture from Italy. We do have tastes that they don't - Italians love espresso, Australians prefer things like flat whites and cappuccino, sometimes even mochaccino for those with a sweet tooth. Makes for more varied tastes, but most of our cafes pride themselves on making the best coffee they consistently can.

[@acrescapes]

Others said it too but hands down Aussies know coffee. I was not born in Australia but have been to a few countries and can definitely say that in general, coffee in Australia is on another level. Iwrocker... speaking of Aussie things. Please react to "I am Australian" from the seekers. I mailed, left comments and will continue until you react ha ha

[@solreaver83]

he doesnt do music

[@acrescapes]

@@solreaver83 Reacted to "I still call Australia home" Anyway, why would you not, greatest Aussie song in my opinion and something I think he and others will appreciate.

[@grandmothergoose]

I second this. I suspect if we had another referendum about the Australian National Anthem an d "I am Australian" by the Seekers was on the list of options, it would become our National Anthem by a huge majority vote. Ian might be concerned about copyright infringement, but if he pauses regularly as he always does with videos to critique and comment about it, it doesn't breach copyright because some law about criticism (which sounds negative but there is such as thing as positive criticism.)

[@acrescapes]

I am now a proud Aussie and love our national anthem. I love the coffee culture, nature, the lifestyle, Ian's videos ... gosh waay to much to mention. I don't like Vegemite that much ha ha but "I am Australian" from the Seekers.... Someone once said it so well and I use their words. If I had to describe everything to someone that knew nothing about Australia in 5 minutes, I would play them this song. It describes so much more than what the words say and has a deeper meaning. The one thing that stands out about it so much is how it makes you feel, that sense of belonging and mateship. How Aussies embrace other people, cultures and welcome them with open arms. I just love this country so much and think many will appreciate his reaction. I follow other channels too and almost all have reacted to it so maybe he does not have to be that concerned. She'll be right mate, react to it ha ha

[@ianhodgson221]

What I've found interesting in the talk about the likes of Starbucks etc is that they say you have a selection of coffee available, but it is only one blend of beans. Yet if you ask for tea they will give you a choice of tea (in bags) of Assam, Darjeeling, Kenyan, English Breakfast, Earl Grey etc (OK may be not the top growths) from reputable tea blenders. Whereas coffee in most places is one blend. At home I use Ethiopian Sidamo, Kenyan Peaberry, Monsoon Malalbar, and other single beans I can get, even where possible from single estate. OK I'm a bit of a coffee snob, but I do this with tea as well. And to be honest I don't have any expectations in many places regarding coffee. I remember watching a barista at a well known chain in the UK going into meltdown. All I wanted was a white coffee whilst waiting at in airport departures, and he couldn't get his head around that fact. He said we can do any coffee you want.. my response was "Can I have a cup of Jamaican Blue Mountain, medium roast please" He just went into total meltdown as he had no idea what I was talking about!

[@DrJRaven]

Being an Australian, and having visited the US a number of times the place where I really enjoyed the coffee was Denny’s. Their coffee was filtered, nut put through a coffer destroyer machine that masquerades as a espresso machine. Like what Starbucks use.

[@MrAzzure96]

From Portugal, that kind of coffee is what we call "grandma coffee". The kind of coffee made in a old fashion pré-expresso machines..Its good mas its not a expresso coffee. Ìn Portugal drinking coffee is like smoking....When smoking was a wide spread habit.

[@mickd8188]

There is no right or wrong answer here... you like what you like, it is that simple. Cheers mate 👍

[@ramiromaia592]

It's surprising with the amount of Italian migration to the US that the coffee hasn't kept up with other countries

[@rommulasforthewin]

so I'm an Australian that has worked in the coffee industry for 15+ years and I can give you some fun facts. so the best coffee machines come from milan Italy (lamazocca) in 2016 Australia bought the second most amount of machines from lamazocca after America but America only bought some 300+ more than Australia per year for the population size that crazy. Australia has a commercial coffee machine for 1 per 400 people or less. the next fact is Australia buys more high grade beans after Norway and Japan at the auctions so we simply have more of the better beans.

[@Rubytuesday1569]

I think the introduction of espresso by Italian immigrants to Australia during the 1950's certainly set up the coffee culture we enjoy today. It's all about quality and the art of the barista. ☮️

[@hyemibo395]

I thought the Italian immigrants came in the mid 1800's....

[@mbwyatt1978]

Melbourne, Australia has a strong coffee legacy (that is also spread and been embraced throughout the country) built off the back of post war European influx of Greek, Italian, Turk, Lebanese and Middle Eastern cultures who are embraced and celebrated to this day. To this day Melbourne has a strong Italian culture and the largest Greek population outside of Greece.

[@davidareeves]

Melbourne here. I grew up with Italians, Greeks, Turks, Lebos, and Arabs in generic circle. So each has their own way of making "coffee", but it's an experience. My father, being an aussie stuck to the old instant *cough* chicpowder dust * cough* YUK. From these friends and families, I learnt which is which and you can have a mood type for coffee as well. If I was down and struggling in the morning, I'd head off the the local Italian bistro and grab a short double to start my day in overdrive. The others after for an arvo break, after work, lunch, or at night for a relaxed scene with some friends after dinner. Branch out, and as I found out, each style has it's own flair and memories.

[@AndyViant]

In Italian circles you don't drink the same coffee all day - there are cultural rules of when you should drink certain types of coffee. Other cultures it is different. But at least the advantage of the Italian way is it encourages you to try different things.

[@cnqaus]

It mostly comes from the post WW2 Greek & Italian migration in Australia. Tea was the thing back then, lost it's flavour without dumping it in to the harbour, lol. Have a Zaraffas franchise just around the corner. The coffee is brilliant, but the traffic issues they cause..... Thank goodness it's walking distance.

[@zephyrmj]

Australia has excellent coffee, Melbourne in particular. I went to North America and it tasted like water. By the way, the so called 'cream' is what we call milk!

[@Rottnwoman]

"Creamer" is just more American bullshit!

[@alyciasmith1964]

When people say American coffee, most people MEAN American chain coffee in the US (Macdonald's, Starbucks, etc). This is obviously not fair to small coffee shops but the same thing happens with some Australian cheeses, wines, beers and sweets.

[@Rottnwoman]

American "specialty" coffee is still garbage. The more it costs the worse it is.

[@alyciasmith1964]

@@Rottnwoman I probably wouldn't know due to Australia's strict import rules and the fact I haven't been there yet.

[@littleannie390]

I like a medium strength coffee that is not too bitter. I haven’t been there for quite a few years but I remember the issue I had with coffee in the US was the highly chlorinated water. I am from the UK and the coffee quality here varies quite a lot and there are both good and bad options. I like the coffee in Italy but I usually find the coffee in France to be too strong and bitter for me. At the end of the day it is down to personal taste.

[@tubekulose]

I'm from Vienna, Austria, and have to say our coffees are some of the best in the world. When I was a kid my mum told me about my parents' trip to the US. She said American coffee tastes like watered orange juice someone dropped a coffee bean in. I won't mention what she told me about the food but she was absolutly shocked.

[@OzBloke]

Travelled America a couple of times and couldn’t believe how bad the coffee was 🤮

[@philash824]

The only time I’ve been in a Starbucks is to ask when the coffee shop next door opened

[@davidlittle7182]

I’m watching in Sweden. They drink A LOT of coffee here but it’s only the small trendy places that serve anything decent. And a latte in Stockholm costs about $4.25

[@L3MechaBuilders]

I m from Belgium, in 2019 i went to Portland for my company. One morning me and my coworker stopped at a Starbucks to grab a cup of coffee. The staff really looked at us strangely when we asked for normal plain black coffee :)

[@Rottnwoman]

Because of how undrinkable it is! I swaer it could peel the enamel off my teeth!

[@mogoala]

I live in Bratislava, capital of Slovakia. We found a really cozy and cheap coffee shop owned by an Italian. A friendly hipster guy. 90 cents for a delicious cup of espresso is something I haven't seen anywhere else. Those watery coffees for 1,50 had put me in perspective of how bad it can get. It's all about exploring the right places. Also, I would say that europeans are overall pretty good with coffee. Not saying the best.

[@RipsawEV_2]

I love ur thumbnails dude 😂, u look soo innocent and look totally bamboozled by the confusion 😂. Thanks for a good laugh just over the thumbnail 🤣

[@kevo6190]

Market Lane Coffee in Melbourne! The blends and barista skills are excellent and definitely my favorite in Victoria Australia at the moment but it's a close race in Melbourne!

[@FredPilcher]

Anyone who can't stand Starbucks clearly has good taste. Re "with the right advertising you can sell anything" - Starbucks proves your point. As does Johnny Walker whisky.

[@adamslaney5638]

I remember when Starbucks was here in Australia, it was the worst coffee ever. I don't even know how they got away with selling it as it tasted like mud water. Didn't even come close to Australia's standards lol

[@Rottnwoman]

In our case they got away with it for only a few days. They were on the ground floor of our building but we soon learned to ealk on by!

[@AUmarcus]

It's still here.

[@thanussongprasart2568]

From my experience, actually South Korea has a very good cup coffee. The machineries involve in making coffee(roaster, grinder, etc.) are more accessible in terms of variety and pricing. However, it is very niche. In regards to the individual cafe/ coffee shops in the US, I’m sure there are decent places if you look hard enough. That being said, it’s more due to the general public that willing to accept mediocre coffee and result in overall lower coffee standards. He sums it up very well at @13:10 that people dont focus on the elements that make a good coffee (aroma, crema, acidity, body, aftertaste, etc) but rather try to make it ‘drinkable’ in their dictionary by add wrong proportion & temperature of milk, add cream and sugar, which degrade/interrupt the quality of the coffee in the process. Here in Australia, if you are not living in the outbacks, you almost are guaranteed to have access to a decent cup of coffee within walking distance. But that because the general public acknowledges what constitute a good cup of coffee. We just don’t put up to a bad coffee. We bin a bad one right away if the second or third sip doesn’t work, because we know the next cafe will be able to provide a good cup. The cafe cannot be slacking or they will never get a customer.

[@stevehercules7372]

The most enjoyable coffee I drink is the one I make at home. From grinding my own beans locally grown in Nth Qld Daintree area to the brewing and milk frothing. Must be good because ever since I started doing this I have friends dropping by more often for a cuppa.

[@A_nony_mous]

I LOVE Daintree Coffee, it's just about the only one I can drink black without sugar and I have a very, very "sweet tooth".

[@MrReallogs]

Got a coffee roaster less than a kilometre away from my house, 15 or so different beans called simply beans. Coffee is superb :)

[@ryankincade]

I’ve had coffee in over 12 countries around the world and the best coffee is in Australia, hands down. People care about their coffee in Australia and the baristas take massive pride in their work.

[@michaelstevenson2517]

Australia has the best coffee. One of the reasons is our milk is world class too.

[@ronprichard6145]

New Zealand has great coffee - now. There are many specialty roasters around the country. I did read there are Kiwi Cafes in New York and in London. At home I use a Bialetti. Not quite up with the cafe product, but better than any of the other alternatives I've tried.

[@craigice9635]

Visiting New Zealand some time ago made me fall in love with coffee.

[@rasmuswi]

Hello from Sweden! Sweden and Finland used to have the highest per capita coffee consumption in the world (Sweden has now been overtaken by a few neighboring countries, but Finland retains the lead) and, not very surprisingly, also has the highest quality coffee in the world. Noone in Sweden or Finland advertises that their coffee is 100 % Arabica, because nearly all coffee is, except for some beans that are meant for Espresso. Even the cheap shit in low price stores is usually 100 % Arabica. It also means that Swedish coffee tends to be on the expensive side. The typical Swedish coffee is drip coffee brewed in a brewer that uses paper filters, nearly all Swedes have one at home. I typically drink my coffee with no milk or sugar, but that's mostly a matter of taste. I LOVE my Moccamaster Clubline brewer, the coffee it makes is soo good, and it's built like a tank and is still going strong after at least 15 years.

[@judileeming1589]

Someone used the word “subjective” and they are correct. I love that you can get good coffee everywhere in Australia at around AU$4-$5 a cup, but you can also get good coffee all over the World. I haven’t been to South America but I am sure you will be able to get good coffee there. The only place I have had bad coffee was during my trip to Asia, but maybe that was just bad luck. Anyway I have had good coffee in the USA, the Middle East and Europe, including the UK.

[@paulmichaelfreedman8334]

I used to drink senseo pads. Then I tried a cup of freshly ground coffee from a Jura machine. I immediately dumped the senseo machine in the trashcan and bought an automatic grinder/maker. I've had my DeLonghi for over 8 years now. My favorite coffee brand is Illy. Oh and the milk is just as important when making such variations.

[@avanap8096]

I drink my coffee in Oz and NZ with milk (and a little sugar in Oz) But in Italy and Greece super happy with an espresso. Gave up in the states unless I had a massive night out, when I shouldn't have.

[@neilgayleard3842]

A lot of American coffee has added chicory which changes the taste.

[@Wienerblutable]

Well in Austria the coffee is pretty good and pretty well known. It’s mostly Italian roasted

[@andrewwhite1065]

A weekend workmate in Perth used to eat instant coffee out of the jar with a spoon, and around 6 was his usual. You could see his Iris contract and expand after the first couple. Could drink a few beers most nights at a number of the locals while at Uni, never studied and mostly scored HD's in every subject. Anyway back to coffee. He only had Nescafe's Blend 43 which is a cheap commercial brand here. Personally i drink Lavazza - Espresso instant, from Italy.... almost creamy & very smooth.

[@yannikavadas1490]

Bloke , You do that stuff with Milo. Did the workmate suffer from any brain spills down the line ?

[@macca777]

Nescafe's Blend 43 is my favorite too. I tend to have it mixed with a bit of H2O and sugar personally, though lol 😀

[@mariahewitt9787]

@@macca777 Nescafe Gold is much better. If you must drink instant.

[@nswinoz3302]

Wrong, “International Roast” is the worst instant coffee.

[@Toobeegort]

Starbucks came to Australia about 20 years ago and set up about 110 stores, in less than 6 months all but 4 were closed and 2 of them are in the airports of Melbourne and Sydney, for Americans, the other 2 are in the citys of Melbourne and Sydney no one in the suburbs wanted anything to do with them, they have started to sell capsule coffee in super markets but not very popular.

[@aidanm5578]

I'm an aussie and I used to enjoy instant coffee. But ever since I was older and had cafe coffee (even the franchises.. hello Dome) - I can't turn back. Just tastes like creamy, burnt, acid water to me.

[@ald00I]

american tourists prefering starbucks over a good café is my villain origin story

[@andregon4366]

I've seen American coffee that in my country would be called tea. I could see through it. 9:28 Yeah, that's tea.

[@georgedeconto9599]

I'm from Brazil, and once I met an American couple here, that regularly visited the country. They told me that whenever they came they would pack their bags with coffee on their way to US. Then I asked which one they bought, and they always got the same regular, off the shelf brand, that we can find in any supermarket here. That was a bit surprising to me.

[@aussiegirl1166]

When we were in Melbourne we tried a starbucks place, I didnt finish the coffee, it was awful, a friend had a iced coffee and it was so sugary sweet so again it wasnt finished. Yes we are lucky in Australia that we have a good coffee selection. In saying that though I dont like bitter coffees and I have found a few of those where I live now. I rarely buy coffee when I go out, so for me I cant really say which is the best around here, but I know is better than starbucks :)

[@MichalStangl]

As a European I think you are right. In every civilized country, it is no longer a big problem to make good coffee. I've traveled a lot and I've only been to Starbucks once when we planned a trip to Barcelona on 9/11/2013 wrong. We arrived at the place, soldiers everywhere and a lot of people, they were protesting for the disconnection of Catalonia and everything else was closed 😀 they made a 400km long human chain, maybe the longest in history, over 2,000,000 people. Anyway, I've never heard that Australians should have the best coffee. In Europe it is said about Italians. But I firmly believe that the best will be in the place where the best plantations are located, Ethiopia, Kenya, Colombia, Peru, Costa Rica, Brazil.

[@ryan_r849]

I live in Melbourne (Aus, not Florida) - obviously we have a great coffee culture. I think a good is all in the way it's made.... no matter how good the beans, if you burn it, it's gonna be awful and bitter. Espresso/percolator produce the best coffee. If you take the same grind, and put it through a dripolator or plunger, it's gonna be completely different and watery compared to espresso/percolated.

[@ernstkonig6808]

you may be right, but espresso has nothing to do with australia, espresso come from italy

[@ryan_r849]

@@ernstkonig6808 Ummm, yeah, we know that and never suggested it was Aus. I'm talking referring to the method.... Same as wok cooking versus fry pan... The espresso method is widely adopted in Aus coffee culture, but percolated is also great

[@donna6592]

@@ernstkonig6808 Espresso coffee is very popular in Australia, introduced here by Italian immigrants. We never claim that espresso is actually Australian.

[@pike59pike59]

Visited America Several times. American coffee is dishwasher

[@Nebs1]

When I first went to USA I was use to drinking instant coffee and McDonalds and 7/11 Coffee in Australia. So I thought American Starbucks was all good. Then by the time I went to the USA for the second time I was use to drinking coffee from good Australian cafes, I could no longer drink Starbucks. I even hit up some small local cafes in American that had good rating online and even they were not great. Better than Starbucks, but still not what I was use to. The best coffee I ever had in USA was in Honolulu and the cafe owner was Australian.

[@Rottnwoman]

And I bet the coffee was Kona?

[@Nebs1]

@@Rottnwoman The Australian style cafe was called something like Bill's in Waikiki

[@louisestevenson5102]

Taste of different roasted coffee beans mmm mmm. Smells throughout the arcades way less bitter you can drink with no sugar and its delishious

[@MyFamilyFoodGarden]

I will admit I have bias as an Australian. Without doubt Australian coffee is without equal. In saying that I have been to a number of overseas speciality Roasters and had great coffee. None of which came from chain coffee shops. The difference here in Australia is that almost all coffee shops and restaurants (inc. chain restaurants) sell high quality barista made coffee (funnily enough so does my local Barber). As an additional insight, in relation to a prior video, this is why in Australia we find it absurd to expect free coffee refills when dining out.

[@A_nony_mous]

McDonalds, back in the early 1990s, had unlimited refills of coffee with breakfast, it was the only part of their breakfast that was even remotely healthy but was worth it's weight in gold if you happened to be travelling for work.

[@MyFamilyFoodGarden]

@@A_nony_mous I remember it was free coffee for the driver when I was younger but that seemed to disappear with the introduction of McCafe

[@karnihiggins835]

I agree with, you can’t judge an entire countries coffee unless you’ve been there and tried various coffee providers. Here in Australia we do have some pretty yuk coffee too. I don’t like Gloria Jeans coffee and Bean Squeeze, which are 2 popular coffees providers here in oz. I prefer smaller coffee shops that take time sourcing their coffee.

[@danielintheantipodes6741]

I had Starbucks coffee here once. Never again. It was like lightly coffee flavoured milk. Awful! I have not been to the USA, so I cannot compare coffee in Australia and the USA. If it is worse than starbucks it is foul. I buy their ceramic tumblers. Nothing else! Regardless of the country, war does tend to change our habits. World Wars I & II changed everything nearly everywhere. And it does seem illogical to give no credit to smaller coffee sellers! I am sure there is great coffee in the USA if you know where to look.

[@damionkostrz789]

You should come down under to south Australia ill take you for a coffee

[@danielintheantipodes6741]

@@damionkostrz789 👍😃

[@CHDunham123]

Best coffee is from my Italian made DeLonghi barista machine with Italian coffee beans. I'm from the UK so shout out to our euro neighbours who really know their stuff when it comes to coffee 🇮🇹 🇬🇧 ☕️ As a side note reading the comments I really want to try the Aussie coffee now!!!

[@neilgriffin1860]

having been a tourist driver most Anericans ask for a coffee as they beleive NZ coffee bis the best

[@Max_Flashheart]

Even bad NZ coffee is good

[@Rottnwoman]

Because they have travelled to so many countries? 😂😂😂😂

[@illogicalstuff6099]

In India, my favorite is Cappuccino from McDonalds without sugar. I know a lot of you may not agree but that is the taste I am accustomed to :)

[@gregmullins6927]

Starbucks rating of medium would rate as low in Australia and Europe,the best tasting coffee is from independent cafe's like you said Ian,Starbucks like Krispy Kreme and other Corporate US food chains are just garbage and the sooner Americans reject them the better.

[@craigwhite3815]

I'm from Melbourne, I believe we have the best coffee due to the simple demand from our city. We're not just excessive coffe drinkers but we demand the various types and are very picky on quality.

[@Zandain]

So much bad coffee out there! 🤮 an Italian espresso or a Jamacian Blue Mountain for me, plz - and coffee, for coffee's sake without ALL the extras!! Danes, most often prefer perculated coffee. We have always had pretty good coffee, except after WW2 when we had coffee substitute, which was awful 🤮 I think, that is why Europe as a whole, enjoys a well made, aromatic cup of coffee. We have always had the small local coffee shops...franchises only arrived here, in the 80-90s and they have never been good 😮 - question: are US citizens the best to judge coffee? Really? hello from Denmark 🌸🌱

[@Ronny_van_Gerwen]

Starbucks and coffee are normally never in the same sentence

[@briandp9535]

When you talk about marketing, it instantly made me think of a fact fiend video on how bacon and eggs became a breakfast food. And the marketing man responsible for it.

[@Alfadrottning86]

No Starbucks here in this country - so i cannot compare to this big corporate coffee idea. My coffee taste is not very good though. I prefer very strong (bitter) coffee, black - probably the nightmare of real coffee connoisseurs

[@susanjw7763]

Had Starbucks here in Sydney - 1 huge mistake!

[@PhotogNT]

Lucky you no Starbucks absolute bonus.

[@brucecumming8803]

I'm a coffee addict living in Sydney Australia. At home I drink plunger made black coffee with no sugar made with quality beans that I grind. When out I drink flat-white coffee and always ask for an extra shot. When Starbucks came to Sydney I gave them a try and the first flat-white tasted like they had forgotten to put in any coffee. The next time a tried them I asked for a couple of extra shots and it still had no kick to it (they must use very low quality coffee beans). It is true that we are blessed to have plenty of great coffee shops available in Australia.

[@terry9325]

First time I when’t to America I was looking forward to a good cup of coffee and Hershey chocolate bar which I heard so much about ,the coffee gave me belly ache and the Hershey bar was to disgusting to eat ,the coffee I was drinking I’m not sure but I think it was called Red Mountain,all of the other food was great , except the bread which was some how sweet to the taste.

[@mementomori7825]

They add sugar (high fructose corn syrup), lots and lots of it. It's not bread, it's confectionary.

[@Nicole-no1kn]

When we went to the USA I was warned about the coffee and took my own. It was just instant coffee, only to realize the hotels on the east coast don't supply an electric jug..... Nothing in the rooms not even a fridge, once we got to the west coast the rooms were more like an Aussie hotel mini fridge, kettle and toaster.. Top tip from my elderly aunt if the coffee is bitter add some salt🧂it works!

[@IanDarley]

(from the UK) We have basically the same choices as you with the franchises, but IMO Starbucks is the worst. You have to go to an inidie for a good coffee. Tom Scott did a great video about coffee a couple of months ago, he was a coffee hater all of his life until he sat down with an expert with some specialty brews and he was instantly converted. It was very interesting as the expert had him try various bean varieties and kept changing them based on his responses until they found the one that he loved.

[@zooloo73]

James Hoffmann makes excellent coffee at Square Mile. I've bought some here in Norway, unfortunately after adding shipping, taxes and import fees the cost is twice the price of the coffee. Good thing we have a ton of local roasteries of great quality.

[@Kent.]

From Sweden... Coffee from Starbucks and other chains suck here to. The best coffee is what i make myself starting with grinding the fresh high quality beans before i drink my coffee. And it shall be black with nothing more than coffee beans and water. Sugar destroys the taste.

[@danhodson7187]

Here in the UK we have a chain called Costa. I really like their coffee. I don't know what "grade" it is, or if these two guys would consider it good, but I enjoy it. I definitely don't like Starbucks though!

[@chriscollins550]

Costa is not a good coffee. Go buy some bean's yourself and grind them you will taste the difference. Most bad coffee are coverd up with flavours like vanilla and so on.

[@terry9325]

@@chriscollins550 another bad coffee is from M&S cafeteria you could see the bottom of the cup through it ,we went to the trouble and phoned them to complain ,they just gave us the usual bullshit that they use only the best coffee beans ,it as got a bit better lately so I’m told ,but I still won’t drink it 😖😝

[@leithbelbin1438]

Costa is also throughout Asia ..reminds me of SB

[@grabedigger]

Dude hahahha you already have subscribers in Portugal even! xD Rally brought me here and i've stayed for the other stuff!

[@redeye19987]

There is good coffee in the states nowadays. As you mentioned Ian, there are more cafes and specialty coffee houses popping up. I have been to the states a few times over the past 20 years and it has improved significantly. Don't get me wrong though, there is still a majority of bad coffee served including artificial creamer, flavourings and sweeteners. The smaller places have a focus on good quality product that more people are now willing to pay for, the bad places are about low cost and volume.

[@SilentShadow]

i live in the UK and a lot of coffee is brewed at too high a temperature, if I am making coffee at home I use a cafetiere or French press, i put 2 heaped desert spoons of ground coffe in and the a little bit of cold water, before adding the boiled water from the kettle. this stops the coffee from being burnt. as far as blends dont know much about all that, but i usually go for ristretto coffee because i like a strong coffee, then i let is steep or soak for a few minutes before pressing the coffee