MEGA MYTHIC+ CHANGES | Season 2 Brings a TON of QoL to Mythic+

[@uniqueflowsnake]

looks like bro lives inside a resident evil level

[@Konrusade]

you made my day XD

[@Johnnybgood8]

Lmao😂

[@terryfunk1728]

Looks cozy though!

[@chiefputty]

I think that if the vault rewards for a +12 goes to a 2/6 myth item (maybe 4/6 hero end of dungeon), we have a W all around. (and change the +7 vault reward to a 3/6 hero to calm my OCD). Also, of note is that the base level for M0 has gone up 25%, which makes the 2-9 keys numerically harder than they are now, but I think with the affix changes, that will even out.

[@thunder9236]

We still need the stones to be solved. I dont want 3 different crests and a base stone currency to upgrade everything. Its beyond annoying. Also, we need better gearing or bad kuck protection. BFA had the best loot from m+ because 3/5 got loot.

[@timh694]

I like the changes might actually make it a dps check season.

[@Wolverines9999]

Now I’ll get rid of valorstones. They are really not needed just another time sink.

[@pjerald]

This, and also I don't think there is a need for sub-veteran gear to have an upgrade track at all

[@friedrichz6058]

The baseline of mythic dungeons also increased by 25% after this change, making low keys harder, not easier. Update: after BLZ announced that they have fixed the HP scaling issue. I have tested again, and the hp actually increased again by a lot. I give up figuring out the real scaling in S2 until more adjustments😅😅

[@destroyer51_]

not really do

[@friedrichz6058]

@@destroyer51_ For example, +2 CM, the 1st boss Aldryr`s hp increased from 188M to 229M, in the first pack in +2 rookery, Koratite`s HP increased from 50,2M to 61.2M. Low keys are definitely harder after this change

[@destroyer51_]

@@friedrichz6058 ok, but still is not that much of a change to say Harder

[@friedrichz6058]

​@@destroyer51_ With this change, new +2 will be harder than old +3. 3>2, ez math

[@destroyer51_]

@@friedrichz6058 hp increase didnt mean harder tbh but if oyu think so welcome mate

[@Ennar]

W changes. Exactly what people asked for.

[@Squanchy3384]

Yo what's the platter profile he is using? Can anyone answer, Izen? went to to your weakauras page but it isn't there

[@SupremoMancoSama]

it also sounds like m0 will be giving champion gear PER BOSS, that is how i understood it.. made it sound like every boss it's a guarantee drop

[@Ecliptor.]

well, every boss in a dungeon drops gear, just not for every single player

[@SupremoMancoSama]

@@Ecliptor. that is the same as now, they make it sound like everybody will receive a piece of loot, which i really hope as lockout is per week nothing like get you started to m+ like champion gear.

[@ecesfungky6344]

ok

[@Ecliptor.]

There's no way in hell i'll do 3x t11 delves for 21 gilded crests per week lmao. T11 delves are complete CBT.

[@mhmdhsnlo]

it would be so much better if you done all 14 your 15 keys would not dep so you could try again and again i dont get it why does it matter it wont dep my 14 while i have done all 14s and dont need to time them again. also if do the math they made 10s of S2 harder than 11s of S1 by adding 25% to m0

[@scotthill2567]

By pushing M+ and making the gear, crests, etc. easier to get in M+ you will kill raiding. Essentially if you're not doing M+ you aren't going to be geared enough for raiding. If you can get the gear and the upgrades why bother herding cats to recruit, manage, and gear twenty people for raid.

[@D2Mephisto]

cry more

[@steiige]

Sounds like they should make mythic raid 10 man then :)

[@jdavid_sz]

Not really. A lot of guilds extend the raid lockout for progress so they already have to do m+ for gear either way

[@cat-vv9xb]

Making M+ easier actually helps mythic raiding. People stopped raid logging in low ilvl gear when M+ was nerfed around the middle of the tier, because M+ was actually at a decent difficulty for them to do to get mythic gear.

[@TheRabbit68]

Still feels like too little and too late especially because they knew that season 1 was shit from beta but pushed through everything just to look like saviors when they change everything. Nothing would have changed without players just saying screw this and playing other games. I really don't think the changes are drastic enough or the game is enjoyable enough to win back the players tbqh. With how long Season 1 was unplayable people realized, "I don't miss this game at all.".

[@Jaredius]

They could’ve released like this, but they release garbage on purpose and pretend “fix” incrementally in place of new content to keep people engaged….doesn’t work for many. I’m on break until S2.

[@HardtoReach]

Cool story, bro.

[@Theparadoxd7]

Depletion should just be 100% removed, why gatekeep it behind 12's.....absolutely no use to 99% of the playerbase or alts.

[@Buntijr]

Imagine you’re a dps and you join someone’s key as a pug. If you don’t live up to their standards in the first pull, they decide to kick you until they find a dps that does meet their standard, and they are out nothing besides two minutes on the first pull.

[@Theparadoxd7]

@@Buntijr Great, system working as intended. Why does the shitter need carried? If you don't like it list your own key. Edit: In your/current version the shitter bricks the key and everyone loses. In the non deplete system the key gets done or a good attempt at it is made once everyone is of similar skill.

[@dr3armer]

​@@Theparadoxd7 people get kicked for the most insane reasons in timewalking already. I think this is a good change

[@Theparadoxd7]

@ Okay you're all looking at this wrong, if more people are less picky then you have more oppertunity to get into groups, it's then up to you to know the dungeon/key to stay in it. So if you don't like this you're simply saying you know you shouldn't be in this content and you're just being carried and are afraid you will be cut when this comes around.

[@Buntijr]

@@Theparadoxd7 First, keys not depleting still doesn’t stop people from bricking keys; it would just allow the key holder (and group lead) to hold four other people hostage out of fear of being unilaterally kicked for whatever reason the group lead desires. At least currently, the key holder/group lead is punished for being a prick by everyone leaving and their key getting depleted, leaving four people able to hold a key group hostage instead of five. Not great, but 4 is less than five. Second, people love f’ing up their own keys. At non-push levels, it currently feels to me much more likely the person who started the group is the worst player in the group; they’re trading a good dungeon for a “carry” by the other players. They deserve to have some skin in the game of it being completed in a timely fashion. Additionally, the increase in the number of group leads who’ll waste other players’ time by being so heavy that the group has no hope of timing it, either intentionally or just by virtue of their skill and comfort. The latter won’t likely change much, but, boy, can’t wait to see the group lead afk’ers who just need their eight 10’s for the week at any completion. Play the first 10 minutes to get everyone invested and then they just F off, afk, play a game on their second monitor, and/or otherwise waste time because their time is four times more important than anyone else’s. Finally, if you’re such a good gamer who has never made a mistake in the first pull of any dungeon, this doesn’t need to worry about getting kicked by the All-smitey Group Leads… why are you worried about what’s happening at less than 12’s? People pug them successfully rn in s1 pretty readily, and they’ll be easier in s2. Certainly someone who never makes a mechanical mistake and knows their class as well as you imply you do doesn’t need to worry about lowly 11’s of your own- you’ll have your unbrickable 12 key. You write like you have a bit of a Napoleon complex. Kindly, go out and touch grass or just pound sand if you’re going to so blatantly insult or disregard the folks responding to your comment.

[@D2Mephisto]

M+ is back on the menu for season 2. Yay

[@FrankEnbeahn-je1zq]

still no vault catch up for myth track items making alts completely impossible without raiding, still no topend rewards for anyone that doesn't play a full 5man. Just a pile of irrelevant changes for bottom of the barrel players who stick below +10s for 6 months

[@destroyer51_]

except for the Mythic raid the blizzard is slowly making the game too easy, take away the deplate from the 12 beautiful, but the whole thing of crest and gear definitely all too easy

[@swiftyfun88]

get a job and u wont have time 10 hours to play everyday :)

[@destroyer51_]

@@swiftyfun88 i already dont play 10 hours a day, maybe 2 at max so, still that its way to easy amd its my opnion if you are so frustrated that have to find the job exscuse Fine ^^

[@cat-vv9xb]

@@destroyer51_ So push higher since you are an internet badass.

[@destroyer51_]

@@cat-vv9xb 2 comment of the night whitout logic, did you think before type are you just follow your anger?

[@destroyer51_]

@ and tbh, all that anger just for saying my opinion, geez your life isnt going well ?