J.J. Abrams Wrote Spider-Man (Kinda)! | Spider-Man: Bloodline

[@daltonweakly]

The only good version of the “I love this family” trope is when one of the TMNT says “I love being a turtle”

[@camerondalton1495]

I still remember the promotion for the announcement of the book. Marvel had a countdown that started from four and everyone thought it had to do with Rami's Spider-Man 4. When it was revealed what it actually was you could feel the excitement deflate like a balloon. It was hilarious. 😂

[@Martin_TheCollector]

I'm forever grateful that Sal talks about stories I'll never bother wasting my time or "cheeze" on. Bless him and everyone else for being so entertaining!

[@spdrwrtr]

Ethan you said it perfectly when discussing this book "that is a bad idea".

[@ItsOver9000Productions]

I remember when they started a count down for this book with a just a "webbed number 4" and on the same day Alex Ross posted concept art from the original Spider-Man movie and everyone and their mom JUMPED THE GUN confirming that it was a Spider-Man 4 announcement. EDIT: Lol he literally explains after i typed my comment. my bad!

[@decentdullahan6899]

49:59 I'm sure if the Abrams thought of that, they'd add in another pointless retcon twist of "I sent an operative to ransack the Parker home, but he was surprised and shot Ben Parker!" Makes about as much sense as the spider twist.

[@PanicChain767]

Woah theyre depicting spidey as married to mj? Thats wild. >Minutes later Oh thats why ...Couldnt even resist the bridge callback huh

[@calvinjluther]

I've been staring non-stop at MJ's broken finger this whole video. It's... fascinating...

[@calvinjluther]

I try to look down at the couch but my gaze keeps drifting upwarda

[@Mattkeyz1]

I loved Sal's slowburn of ignoring the dialogue until he explodes into a rant about one of the most annoying tropes in storytelling I felt that in my bones

[@bigoistin9125]

I love the arguing over ideals and pragmatism in the comic book/entertainment industry. How Ethan has good points and Ben has good points and Sal voices a mediated view just for him to cap it off with, "But the comic _does_ suck."

[@huttmuttbutt]

Yeah it was really interesting, to listen to, I overall agree with Ben even though Ethan has really good points, but that's just my opinion.

[@AkiDave]

“Shut the fuck up dash” had me wheezing!

[@returded1504]

I can feel the self insertion from Abrams Jr.

[@sollyswolly1623]

This felt like the Abrams were working through some things...

[@TupocalypseShakur]

It's like the movie After Earth, where Jaden Smith plays a teenager trying to live up to his legendary dad's (who is played by Will Smith) legacy and failing to impress him

[@theisaacwilliamson]

Every couple of months I BINGE these guys. It’s a fun time for me 😂

[@chrismennell1606]

Good to see that Henry takes after his dad in the "it doesn't make sense at all but it's gonna look really cool" department.

[@princeparker8797]

33:10 Sal: so cadeverus blows up oscorp.. Ethan: WHY?? Fam when I tell you I cried laughing 😂😂😂

[@KenByrneNL]

Sal is hilariously animated during this ep. I loved how Ethan’s breakdown of why the plot doesn’t work

[@travispagan3824]

JJ IS COMING

[@thedukeofchutney468]

This sounds like a threat.

[@EduardoHernandez-sv1zo]

Tarantino actually wrote a Django/Zorro comic with someone back in the mid 2010s, highly recommended reading material 😎✊

[@Grievousish]

I didn't even know this book finished. I saw the first couple issues release and then it disappeared like the answer to a JJ mystery box

[@fun2building]

The last two issues got delayed a few times so that's part of why it vanished for a while

[@lexofpower2822]

What’s so funny is I was just thinking about this book yesterday. I was at work and I just randomly thought “what had ever happened to the JJ Abrams Spider-Man book?”. Great video guys.

[@MtnRangeLivingRoom]

I have no idea how why you would want to hire JJ Abrams to write anything after the last Star Wars. Dudes a bit of a hack.

[@devilsadvocateproductions4978]

That Vaseline job that Ben said was from a South Park episode. The Korn Halloween Special. Fantastic pull. ❤️

[@benhramiak8781]

The history of this book is more interesting than the book itself.

[@dariooben9]

Listen kids, if you have a job because your dad's name is in blue in Wikipedia... that's fine. Stephen King's son is a good writer. Uma Thurman and Ethan Hawke's daughter is a really good actress. But if you're really bad at it, and you put zero effort on it, and you waste everyone's time... you 100% deserve to be made fun of. Or, at least, your work.

[@robertcorr6971]

Next you've got to do the Quinten Tarantino paired Matt Wagner Zorro/ Django crossover.

[@christopherpoff4117]

I should wait until further into the video to comment maybe but just the introduction of this being the Abramses literally mystery boxing THEMSELVES as the reveal? It's the Inception of what goes wrong with Abrams being involved in any project, LOL

[@christopherochoavanegas5200]

you make my day every time i watch your videos

[@superjlk_9538]

I’m so glad you brought up the Spider-Man 4 thing

[@gareckthetailor9918]

bought a copy after watchin this lol

[@flywheelshyster]

Lol 😆 you guys bring the laughs edit: wowsa i was just laughing at the intro. jeez Louise

[@MareoYapp]

Funny moments 4:15 10:20 25:00 27:40 51:00 53:50

[@doctorwhy6366]

That exposition… l listened to that exposition. There goes three years sobriety.

[@georgemckay7795]

Picked up first issue. Saw they killed Mary Jane. Had One More Day flashback. Put issue down and cried in the shower.

[@tristanmaldonado670]

I read the first 2 issues of JJ and Harry Abrams Spider-Man series, and I thought it was pretty good. Haven't read the other 3 issues, but planning to get the trade later

[@bigfest6498]

I love how nepotism brought us this book and they write about kids that hate their parents. Oh the irony.

[@azureheart2846]

1:02:53 I have to be honest. This is on brand Spider-Man dialogue. It’s not that weird to other things Spider-Man has said. Like the time he expressed how cheerful he was about not having one of his students die when he was acting as a substitute teacher at the X-Men school.

[@hapokas112]

Nice episode.👍🏻

[@chancylvania]

And at the end of the count down you get… ABRAMS IS COMING!

[@sergioruiz733]

Iron Man reminds me of "The Dude" in this book lol.

[@jacksonashworth150]

Can we all agree just to not let JJ Abrams touch the things we love anymore.... He wasn't even that good of a director let alone writer to begin with...

[@MrCeratix]

I think JJ mixed some pages with his Star Wars script looking at some of the names in this Book

[@GetUpGetUpGetUp]

I actually kinda like this Tony Stark but I think I'm just a sucker for that sort of self destructive character.

[@DCPatrol]

I heard this was bad. Was never going to read it. This is worse than bad. So bad I almost feel like turning this off. I hold on, only for Comic Pop. Save... ...us... ...all.

[@seanarro]

So they took the Parker Spider blood plot from TASM 2? Great!

[@manuelrosas5889]

It was funny and hilarious how they were poking at the art and the plot holes in the comic book and also all be want patiently for The Beta Ray Bill 2021 comic book run can’t what for it going to be Funny and exciting like all was

[@SpiderFansArt2006]

I never really liked this book much....or the new star wars movies , makes you wonder if it's jj Abrams that I don't like😁

[@nickyt.2157]

At least this Cadaver(ous) isn’t a stupid Batman villain obsessed with death. He’s not as hilarious as that Cadaver, though.

[@at9648]

Thank you for saving me some money.

[@jonsmith9838]

wait is spiderman healing factor good enough to grow another arm

[@spdrwrtr]

If anyone wants that "promotion" video from the Abrams and Marvel, here it is: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bIjWpo15mseDers

[@ninja1man4u]

Man this book...it's pretty lame

[@ThorneIdentity]

i'm with ethan.

[@tjjordan4207]

I do not consider JJ Abrams to be a good writer. His whole 'mystery box' philosophy doesn't work when he doesn't even know the answers to any of the mysteries he sets up. I'll admit, he does make entertaining films and tv shows, but he always comes up short.

[@punchtothegut]

22:22 in regards to naming fay by her last name first, she's Asian and in Japanese culture they go by last name first, and then first name

[@comicpop]

And how do you explain that in the American classroom, the American teacher imposed that rule on the Japanese student?

[@digdugdoggy]

​@@comicpop goated response, you're living my dream

[@reallysourpinecone]

Wait, so Cadaverous has the same motivation of wanting Spider-Man’s blood that Harry Osborn had in The Amazing Spider-Man 2 AND they do that stupid thing of Peter’s parents making the spider that would go on to give him powers?

[@eduardoflores1503]

Thanks, I thought I was the only one who notesed the similarities. Bet JJ's son only saw the movies and figured that's how it went in the comics.

[@codystork3008]

@@eduardoflores1503 that might actually be on J.J. Alex Kurtman who wrote the amazing spiderman 2 worked with Abrams on the show Fringe among other things so both Abrams probably saw it.

[@MrEnKaye]

These Hollywood types never learn 😅

[@commanderspyder5432]

It's arguably way worse than the movie though IMO. People actually care about Harry Osborn as a character lol

[@halfmettlealchemist8076]

“Somehow, Green Goblin returned” - Spider-Man, Spider-Man Bloodlines: The Rise of Sky-Parker

[@TupocalypseShakur]

Shouldn't Moon Knight be the one to say that?

[@tjjordan4207]

That's pretty much Ultimate Green Goblin in a nutshell.

[@seanrutherford728]

@@tjjordan4207 Literally.

[@Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Mustache]

1:02:39 That's it. That's this entire book. I also want to call attention to this thing I like that's been happening a lot recently where Ethan will just drop an F Bomb out of pure frustration for something not happening in the plot of a story after he suggests something that logically should have happened.

[@comixproviderftw_02]

Remember when Marvel on social media posted the number “4” and people got excited and thought it was Spider-Man 4. Like people thought they were gonna do a comic adaptation of the Spider-Man 4 script? Good times…

[@JD-iu6rv]

Yeah I was really hoping that’s what it was. I was so disappointed

[@loudtaste1046]

Who starts from 4 ?

[@Dusty_B]

@@loudtaste1046 It's almost like they wanted to mislead people to get them talking 🤔

[@yuranft9740]

Also at the same time Alex Ross posted his work which was Raimi’s spiderman

[@loudtaste1046]

@@yuranft9740 wow 🤦🏻

[@tommykelso3592]

Ethan:“Mr fantastically not in this universe” Sal:”he is in this universe” Ethan:”Fuck!”

[@KingArthur39]

The twitter drama this announcement sparked was way more entertaining than the comic itself

[@architeuthis3476]

I have no doubt that being Stephen King's son made it easier for Joe Hill to get a job writing comics. However, in all the years he's written comics, I can't think of a single example of Joe Hill putting his dad's name on the cover of one of his books. I think he just trusted that his stories are good enough to stand on their own.

[@kyshowman6847]

Didn’t even know he was King’s son until far later.

[@caliph95]

Joe Hill being an actual good writer helps

[@architeuthis3476]

@@caliph95 This is true!

[@architeuthis3476]

@@kyshowman6847 Even Stephen King didn't want to coast by on his name power alone. That's one of the reasons he was writing under the pen name Richard Bachman for a while. I'm sure that taught Joe Hill that being established as a writer isn't enough, yoo have to actually do the work

[@CharZy-y8v]

@@architeuthis3476 Unlike JJ and Henry Abrams😂

[@jclombardi8471]

So basically this book is just Spider-Girl minus everything that made Spider-Girl great. Gotcha.

[@Sicod79]

With one arm comes no responsibility. The message of this book.

[@kissdatip85]

🤣

[@sollyswolly1623]

Well that's why they do the 12 year time skip so that Peter can go through unexplained character changes and Henry Abrams doesn't have to do any research

[@seankensing]

🤣👏🤣

[@cozen_kevalas]

Yo big props to whoever put in that JJ Lens Flare(TM) transforming into a Back Issues title card in pretentious movie font. Comicpop rocks! I love this show.

[@JinX_11199]

Not to sound like a dick, but this book really goes to show that Henry should improve on his writing before trying to write for someone as big as Spider-Man. Ugh, Nepotism blows

[@ZB3003]

To be fair about the Spider-Man 4 thing Raimi wasn't happy with any of the scripts and couldn't figure out a good enough script in time for Sony.

[@passarovoador6662]

Yeah and it was only the early draft

[@davidspring4003]

And he probably stopped trying after he was forced to write Venom

[@priceyyeti4058]

This book really does feel like someone wrote it never reading comics in their life yet ironically trying to imitate an MCU movie and ultimately failing at both.

[@MiseryBrick]

This feels like one of those 90's/early 2000's screenplays that some director that knows barely anything about comics wrote. Except instead of going off of what's in the public consciousness, they grabbed all their info on the characters from a Marvel Universe Handbook page. Also, I remember reading the first issue and thinking it was a worse rendition of the ideas that were present in Spider-Girl. Seems like I wasn't wrong after all. Great episode guys!

[@judahgregory1030]

I think you presuming they did any research on the characters for this book is giving them too much credit.

[@sollyswolly1623]

It felt like recycled movie knowledge, especially the whole ridiculous backstory to the villain and Peter's parents

[@alexandredesbiens-brassard9109]

So, JJ Abrams Superman script from the late 90s/early 2000 (Superman: Flyby, IIRC), in which Krypton had not blown up?

[@MiseryBrick]

@@judahgregory1030 Fair, but I use the handbook thing only because I know most casual fans aren't familiar with Mary and Richard Parker being SHIELD Agents. That's the only reference to continuity in this whole thing

[@judahgregory1030]

@@MiseryBrick alright, fair, that is a bit of a point for them that they knew that.

[@1337snake888]

LMAO glad to have a comicpop episode of this book. I remember when this came out I said "there's no way I'm reading this" but I was still curious about it

[@TheMelMan]

x2

[@roozorret1221]

So, WAIT... Was this whole story an allegory about how JJ Abrams is an absentee dad who's always off shooting movies? And how Henry Abrams loves his mom more?

[@smhfirebruh5630]

So who's Cadaverous in this situation then? George Lucas?

[@dn22pkkdd476]

​@@smhfirebruh5630 ...... how did you know?....😧

[@toqkaizogou1636]

So this story has Peter's teen kid becoming a Spider-Hero, and Peter lost a limb. Sounds familiar... The Abrams way seems to just be: Step 1: Look at existing story in franchise. Step 2: Copy it, but shitter. Same with the overly complex parents blood involved in the spider. That's ASM2.

[@DazzlingMrScratch]

I remember hearing Tarantino wanted to make a Luke Cage film with Laurence Fishburne in the role, but ended up not even wanting to do it after his comic book friends told him to cast Wesley Snipes instead.

[@nickolasramirez]

I do not associate JJ with the kind of unique directorial voice that could create must read, interesting comic books.

[@harlonmoxie6528]

I love when it’s clear Sal has no respect for the book or the people who made it.

[@kiko1935]

I was wondering why RLM kept showing footage of Abrams saying "we've been working on a spider-man comic" in one of their videos, knowing the back story makes it all the more hilarious now

[@PurpleColonel]

Pointing out "That Guy in Abrams' movies" sent me down a rabbit hole. His name is Greg Grunberg and he didn't appear in Cloverfield, but DID appear in Cloverfield Paradox. He also played "Bad Robots Head of Security" in the Simpsons.

[@Joeuphonium_mk._2]

and he's in Mission Imposible 3, another Abram's production

[@littlekinginc124]

The sheer disdain Sal has about this book is amazing. No comical levels of anger, just sheer disappointment.

[@TupocalypseShakur]

1:21 to be fair I used to think Zach Snyder wrote Court of Owls till I learnt it was actually Scott Snyder. Man was I embarrassed

[@ryan.craig816]

Imagine if Henry Abrams was a fan of Comic Pop and then this drops 🤣

[@seanberrodin801]

Please, that would require Henry Abrams to Be a fan of comics. We all know that’s a pipe dream

[@HOTD108_]

@@seanberrodin801 A person who likes comics, working in the comic book industry? Not in a million years!

[@megaultradamn]

@@HOTD108_ Not in THIS economy

[@MrZsasz25]

Surprised they did this one. Would have guessed, they would concentrate on Batman for the next couple of weeks.

[@jacksonwayneputnam1599]

That JJ announcement was the funniest/saddest thing ever.

[@smugalice6206]

Was it “Somehow, Palpatine returned”?

[@sollyswolly1623]

This comic has striking parallels to the unused ideas for Amazing Spider-Man 3, even down to Peter's origin with his parents, miracle dead-no-more serum, and Gwen-I-mean-Mary-Jane coming back as a spider person

[@nikcantsnipe]

This episode is going to be hilarious. When I saw it on Twitter being announced, I thought it was some early April Fool's joke. Can't wait to see the guys suffer through this... "Story".

[@TevyaSmolka]

oh yeah that JJ Abrams Spider-Man comic I completely forgot that thing even existed because the story itself wasn't great in my opinion.

[@mttylerdurden9]

47:29 wasn't that one of the plot points from the Amazing Spiderman 2?

[@Iwoply]

I got to 17:30 & that was my breaking point. Thank god this is ComicPop & Back Issues so actual enjoyment will come from whatever this is. Aunt May outlives MJ... edit: yep. wtf

[@comicpop]

Hang in there.

[@Iwoply]

@@comicpop I just finished the ep and wow. Thanks to all of you for making this travesty entertaining. it's crazy that its a real book.

[@Depthcharge2030]

The worst part about this book is the behind the scenes snafu by not immediately addressing the announcement as a comic book. A lot of people thought they were finally making a Spider-Man 4

[@comicpop]

It was intentional.

[@ItsOver9000Productions]

I forgot how similar this story is to Renew Your Vows and that horror comic where Peter has a son whos a mutant. Also Ethans "Fuck" after Mr Fantastic is confirmed to be in this universe was hilarious. It was like the wind was kicked out of him.

[@halfmettlealchemist8076]

Renew Your Vows was such a good story compared to this

[@Yoshimitsu4prez]

Calling the girl “Ito Faye” would make sense if they were in Japan 😂 or… the teacher was japanese. Like, any possible context besides nothing

[@Yoshimitsu4prez]

Lol also really appreciated the reference to one of the GOAT Simpsons Halloween bits. “You’re living in the attic, here’s your bucket of fish heads”

[@pay7232]

All I remember about this book is how angry fans were with the disappointing promotion and when the final issue came out everyone commented on how they had forgotten about it.

[@theplopthickens]

OK... So jj Abraham's son wrote a story about a dad that's never there and he hates him and his dad gave him power he doesn't know what to do with...

[@emperorg9910]

Remember seeing this book in the store and seeing jj's name and thinking fuck this.

[@gabrielbrito2120]

The whole “name thing” with Ito might be reference to the fact that in Japan people say the surname first and the forename second, so Ito would be her last name but it would be said first? Seeing how wannabe manga the rest of the book is, this feels like a random tidbit that Abram’s son knew that he wanted to drop for the “street cred”.

[@loki_l_1380]

After star wars tbh I really dont want JJ Abrams to go anywhere near Superman.

[@chrisdaily2077]

*insert JJ Abrams ruining franchises joke*

[@comixproviderftw_02]

*ruining

[@chrisdaily2077]

@@comixproviderftw_02 Well dang it.

[@nottom3309]

I remember when this was announced. I also remember at some point it was compared to DC hiring Stephan King's son, Joe Hill, to do a line of horror comics for DC. I think the Abrams comic got more attention but the Joe Hill comics got more praise.

[@Bryan-gy2zu]

To Joe Hill's credit he goes by a different last name in his writing to avoid that connection/nepotism. And his comic work has been good

[@langleymneely]

My favorite moment? “Thats Necrophilius!” Lmao!🤣

[@elijahbowers1]

Renew your vows is way better than this.

[@OctopusPalmTree]

Another great entry in the BLOODLINES series