J Reid Meloy and Donald Carveth on The Mind of the Psychopath

[@arthurhallstein3144]

This is the best of the best discussions on psychopathy.

[@georgegeysen6499]

Heard him speak on two occasions. His conceptualization of psychopathy is the best. No others.

[@muller5520]

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[@PrenticeIpanemia]

Psycopathy and psyxhological languge is horse shit. It attempts to alienate the relateability of people. Not understand. Because its an emotional disorder, and can only be understood if psychologists understand their own emotion, which they do not😂 hence the need to form linguistic axioms to describe emotion. Its not that deep, the brain. 'Dominate his objects' what a fool unware of the forms behind the rubbish that hes spewing... they want to differentiate themselves through this horse shit intellect that is in-AFFECTIVE. 'The grandiose self structure' 'otto kurnberg' this guy that idea very valid. Fools. Super effective communication. It changes nothing of emotion but stimulates the intellectualisation of forms within them that they are unaware of.

[@LeftHandLady]

This was a highly informative! Excellent lector and lectoror.

[@MonteNegroMCMLXXXV]

Excellent content and presentation. Thank you, Reid. Your insights help me greatly in my research.

[@ali-es2ye]

Great talk. Thank you!

[@hhazard4748]

This explains so much for me!

[@alexisz.4578]

Dr. Meloy is brilliant. If any of you get a chance to attend his trainings, go!! I went twice lol

[@luciatilyard2827]

Rather a great talk!

[@msdemena]

Why is John Cleese so serious all of a sudden?

[@lisaa.4667]

LOL! I thought he looked familiar!

[@gerrynightingale9045]

*I realized many years ago that I'm a 'living definition' of a 'Psychopath'...and yet I cannot even remotely imagine being 'cured' or being 'someone else' even though I intensely dislike being 'Me'* ( *In fact...I've done so much to 'sabotage' my own life since I was in my late teens it's both 'stunning and remarkable' to me in the same instant...a life devoid of 'normal' social discourse and yet immensely rich in knowledge from books, and in some areas I've managed to surpass some of the books, something I found shocking and 'delightsome' for at least some weeks of thinking* ) *At 65 I realize that I have only a handful of years left to me...and I find it very comforting to know with certainty that all of my 'lifetime companions' die with me...my endless longing for the woman I love...my bitter regrets of my lack of achievements...my loneliness for 'normality' will finally all vanish* *The 'part of me that thinks' cares nothing for any of my 'feelings'...it wants only to 'Know all that can be Known' and then extrapolate conclusions from whatever knowledge I have...for instance, if I were swimming in salt-water and saw a shark headed for me, the'part of me that thinks' would be attempting to analyze the gradient of water temperatures/causations of wave-actions/ the osmolality of salt-water on human skin and it's degradation values pro-rated to exposure- duration/why does the water-column in which I'm 'floating' seem to possess greater resistance to foot movements and lesser to my hands despite having almost the same surface area available to create the 'push' of kinesis in a liquid...and at the same instant plotting-out "How-to attack the creature coming for me?" in a manner that will 'drive it off/damage it/or kill it' that will leave me with minimal damage...and still at the same moment, I'll be remembering when my older sister and I loved each other, and how I idolized her for protecting me from bullies and our mother whenever she could...all those things would be occurring so swiftly that light would seem a 'snail in the Arctic' in terms of relative-speeds* *"Real Life' seems somehow distant to me, as-if the 'real me' were somehow not involved in it...from a clinical perspective that would be a 'dis-association from external reality' and yet I'm ALWAYS aware of external reality, awake or asleep...even the slightest change in 'back-ground sounds' or a change in air-pressure will wake me instantly, wary and ready for some unknown attack (I sleep with many weapons close at hand...a heavy meat-cleaver always a reach away...this I believe is what evolved from being dragged from bed by my mother at any hour to beat me for some wrong done that day or months in past) and I'm incapable of 'shutting it off'...I could be in a stupor, and still react instantly* *I cannot ever enjoy being in a Bar/Nightclub/Party and so on...because I'm fearful of any possible confrontation with others...and some drunken lout won't realize what I'm capable of in an 'eye- blink' of time* (although now that I think on it...I've never been invited to a 'Party')

[@MrDoritoO]

I’m a 22 year old, and I’m trying to understand my mind, myself, and thought process. Which is why I was watching this video. When I read your comment a light sparked and I giggled with disbelief as much of what you described applies almost perfectly to me and my life. I’m tired of this never ending process. A mind that doesn’t stop and just when I think I’ve figured it out or understand it, I realize I don’t. I don’t consider myself “bad” but I also am very aware of me and my surroundings. I analyze everything and everyone. And I see not a lot of people understand this when trying to explain. (This along a lot more thoughts and impulses etc.) I’d like to think there is a way to control it or “fix” it. I doubt you’ll even see this but your words made me think a lot. As you were watching this and self analyzing yourself and your life. You’re not the only one.

[@gerrynightingale9045]

@@MrDoritoO *I never meant to insinuate that 'I am unique'...far from it! There are many like me, though most of 'us' by our own natures are not that aware of others of 'our kind' simply because of a usual reclusive nature* *DON'T even bother trying to 'analyse yourself' because it will avail you nothing in terms of 'can I change myself?' and will serve only to frustrate you...'OCD's can be controlled (so I have read from others) with some light ingestion of 'weed' used at a level that you feel comfortable with* *The best thing you can do at your age is to FIND YOUR PASSION in life and pursue it with every means you have within your grasp...it's really the only aspect of life you have real control over is what you want to do in terms of realizing a goal* *If 'Art' is what you find pleasing...then try your best to create what gives you a sense of accomplishment...and that applies to any discipline worthy of your efforts* *It's important that you realize that whatever happened in my life was (with some exceptions) ALL of my own doing! I cannot fault others for my actions or the lack of them...my single greatest regret in life was my apathy toward myself...I 'coasted' for so many years of doing nothing more than either working to 'make a buck' or reading all that I could lay hand to over so many topics I've lost track of them now...I WASTED MY LIFE by being a mere 'observer' of myself and the World around me and have found that all my actions did nothing more than create a form of 'self-perpetuating inertia' that brought me neither happiness nor any sense of accomplishment...I was 'at my best' when I worked as an 'EMT' aboard an ambulance, something worthy of my skills ...yet I allowed the poor pay-scales (at that time) to influence me into apathy regarding this discipline...I felt I was being 'fucked-over' by employers and I allowed that to become such an issue that it caused me to quit doing it altogether...I sank into apathy thereafter and just drifted from one 'low-end' job to another for years* *The single-most important thing to note here is that I 'sabotaged' myself! I allowed my emotions to fixate on only one perception (money) and used that to throw-away years of education and effort on my part...instead of increasing my licensed skill levels to achieve a more desirable pay-scale, I FLUSHED IT ALL AWAY when I could have easily put more time into education and made a considerable increase in pay-scale*

[@cindyfarmer1619]

I understand you and my heart goes out to your suffering .You are not to blame for what happened to you at all Christ understands what humans can't and you might be able to make one understand but not care one either does are dont . CARE SO MUCH. PEACE TO YOUR SOUL I LOVE YOU AND ALL HURTING PEOPLE. 🙏⛪

[@gerrynightingale9045]

@@trailwindz7833 *No, the feelings of 'fear' are present in all 'true psychopaths'* *I can and have lived in social-settings all of my life, and yet I'm rarely an actual participant in any sort of social discourse* *I can, under the right circumstances, 'over-ride' my fears of many things in order to achieve a goal* *You are thinking of people who have become so 'internalized' they no longer respond to 'outside' stimulus in terms of 'thinking'...they have no 'Fear' because they are not aware of dangers nor wants or desires, physical or mental*

[@diannerussell4849]

Wow, I thought I had heard the best of the best on psychopathy, this one is good.😎

[@Spectre2434]

Fantastic

[@denisesimpson591]

Excellent, and from two different clinical perspectives! Other highly recommended books which might whet your fascination with these social parasites: the classic psychoanalytic masterwork from 1941: The Mask of Sanity, by Dr. Hervey Cleckley. Without Conscience: The Disturbing World of The Psychopaths Among Us, by Dr. Robert B. Hare, which centers on the etiology of criminal psychopathy in prisoners The Sociopath Next Door by Dr. Martha Stout (2002). Snakes In Suits: When Psychopaths Go To Work (2006), by Dr. Robert B. Hare and Paul Babiak The Psychopath Whisperer (2015), by Dr. Kent Kiehl And any works by Dr. James Fallon, a neuroscientist, who accidentally discovered-- through scientific imaging--that his brain likely contained the psychological and physiological components of psychopathy--particularly governing emotional and impulse dyscontrol, lack of primal attachment, lack of empathy, etc.

[@Soaptivated]

Denise ~ Also "How To Spot a Dangerous Man" and "Women Who Love Psychopaths," by Sandra L. Brown, though she is not a psychiatrist. Her work as a clinician focuses on the targets of psychopaths, and the study of the traits such females present. She's here on YT and her website is saferelationships.com. Another insightful book is "Dangerous Personalities," by retired FBI Special agent, Joe Navarro, who was also a criminal profiler, forensics expert and counterterrorist. He also wrote a good book called, "What Every BODY Is Saying" reading body language. He's here, too. His website is jnforensics.com. I became the target for a Psycho. I am not fascinated by blood-sucking vampires, parasitic leeches, mosquitos or ticks. I'm pressing criminal fraud charges and not looking forward to the High Conflict courtroom drama, drama, drama, and smear campaign. He's vengeful, sadistic, and near the end I determined he was sexually abused by his own father in the back seat of a car - the only place he said he felt claustrophobic. Unwanted by his mother, he didn't like to be touched, and was not a cuddly type, indicative of Reactive Attachment Disorder. If not genetic, that's where Psychopathy starts - no oxytocin transfer from mother to infant, thus no empathy, thus unable to love anyone but himself and a couple of select blood kin. I saw the reptilian stare 4 times, and I understand why he always had furtive eyes each time he'd get out of the car or walk out of the house. I'm not his first target. He hates both men and women, and with all the bits of info he'd impulsively spit out over time, I finally came to the conclusion he was a pedophile. Fascinating? No. Terrifying? Absolutely. I was traumatized and now suffer from PTSD. Never had I gotten that close to a person so troubled, though now that I've studied all the 10 Personality Disorders, I can look back in my history and say I've crossed paths with several, both male and female. I just didn't know what was wrong with them at the time. What a lesson this has been. Watch a video called "TALK ABOUT IT ***Trigger Warning*** (Full Documentary)." The sexual abuse of little boys is the reason most pedophiles become that way. It's also how Islamic Jihadist suicide bombers are made. Raping a young boy repeatedly fills them with rage, not allowed to express their pain and suffering, according to culture expectations. Then promise these males 72 virgins - virgins - when the get to "paradise." So what was done to them, they can supposedly do in their life hereafter to virgins. Any wonder suicide becomes an inviting escape from their life of misery here? No. Also, do a browser search for PBS The Dancing Boys of Afghanistan. Such a tragedy. Government stats say 1 in 3 females and 1 in 6 males are sexually molested before the age of 18. But the mental health experts say the number for boys is likely 1 in 5, given they're less likely to report it, having the stigma, shame and sense of powerless attached to it. I'm going to assume you know Donald Trump has Narcissistic Personality Disorder.

[@aprilthetwentyfirst482]

@@Soaptivated Thank you for sharing your experience, information and thoughts with us 🌿 May I say that I only disagree 100 percent with the 'theory' of pedocriminals having been victims in their past --- on basis of my own life. This is such a lie many predators like to tell & utilize as some 'excuse' ...when and if they ever get caught! Alas, some shrinks fall into that trap.

[@Scorned405]

Denise Simpson The Sociopath Next Door is a good book

[@alexisz.4578]

Dr. Meloy has written extensively on this topic too. I believe he has published some books as well.

[@jokusekovaan]

Can someone translate this into English? I lost it at object-orientedness.

[@danbaron2561]

Wow, I never knew how emotionally underdeveloped and distorted psychopaths are. I can see that no one could talk them out of it in a million years. What a disaster!

[@ivannichols715]

When I first heard the term primal transference it was used to describe someone almost imitating the person they fear the most. There was also an example given in regards to the term that suggested an Indian wearing the skin of an animal who could kill them. When I was doing my reading on psychopathy and the characteristics that would suggest one may have suffered from the biological brain activity that lead to having that diagnosis I noticed there were several men in prison for various crimes who would frequently mention resentments towards their mother and would bring up the rape fantasy even if the mother was loving and protecting of her son. I believe that wanting to defile your own mother goes back to primal transference in the sense that those fantasies are based on the need to take the place of the person they may fear the most or even in some cases be envious of as well. Because fear has been a common theme in this discussion I believe that if a true psychopath exhibited fear it may be on account of envy or feeling threatened by another person. If this person does live in a two parent home, which is rare in itself, the person they fear/ feel threatened by the most is the father. I'm fairly positive there are other factors that contribute to wanting to act out on this phenomenon but by doing my own research and coming to this conclusion it made so much sense to me.

[@mentalitydesignvideo]

// if the mother was loving and protecting of her son and how would you know that?

[@PrenticeIpanemia]

Wow great comment super insightful and transformative idealization that helps me understand emotional damage

[@taylorjohnson4943]

For a second bill Mayer was reading this 😎

[@davidwilkie9551]

One might deduce from the disproportionate reactions to improvement to AI, the dispassionate analyst of data, that this kind of projected "Psychopathic" perceptions is very threatening to those behind masks of presenting normalcy. This analysis of actual behaviour is representative of why every stage of child development has to be constantly reviewed, revised and reintegrated, ie the elemental e-Pi-i sync-duration Fusion-Fission Function drives the Universal-Neurological reciprocation-recirculation circumstances of all information In-form-ation.

[@damace3838]

I wonder what Tim Masters thinks of this?

[@karentonks7581]

The psychopath that shot 9 people on the eye..my thoughts were that it meant..an eye for an eye rather than the concept given.

[@alvinromo]

I'm here because of the Selena case.

[@ravenrisby]

Why is his head so dan red

[@brandonmcalpin9228]

He must’ve been drinking 😂

[@graceditchfield123]

Just run...

[@christinehaigh9807]

Predatory violence..

[@24kGoldenRocket]

Prey Animals, herbivores, generally have eyes that are set on the sides of their face. Look at cattle, sheep, antelope, doves, rabbit.,etc. They are easily seen as prey animals. Predatory Animals, carnivores, have eyes that are set deep and toward the center of their face. Cats (Lions, Tigers and and your Meow meow), Dogs(Wolves, Coyotes, and FIDO), Owls, Hawks, etc. have eyes that face forward. Humans are omnivorous predatory pack animals. So look at your house cat as he dominates his prey and toys with it, before killing it. He does need need to as his bowl is full of Cat Food. If a human does it we call that psychopathic. When a cat does it we call it nature. What do you expect? Civilization is just a thin veneer. Some people will just react more to instinctive impulses than others. And as predatory pack animals people will follow the most predatory of all, the psychopath, as their lack of fear, lack of concern, and thrill seeking behavior appeals to the lowest common denominator, the reptilian brain, is attractive to those who are restricted by social constricts. and seek freedom from the shackles of civilization. Yeah. I hate being human. I want to leave this shell behind and to transcend to a higher level. This one sucks. Can you leave it behind?

[@aprilthetwentyfirst482]

@@24kGoldenRocket well, I'm afraid your point emerges from an utter simplification & generalization, thus sounding rather like some kind of... propaganda 🤔 Nevertheless have a good day 🌿

[@24kGoldenRocket]

@@aprilthetwentyfirst482 You write that my point emerges from simplification and generalization? I agree with simplification as the principle of Occam's Razor does apply. The simplest of explanations is generally...yes...generally the best explanation. That principle is applied in the formal sciences. And that is how I view the world...as an objective and empirical scientist. As for generalization? Yes. Again i wrote my response without using the words "all" or "none" as I am certain that there are some exceptions. While there are few exceptions, some do exist. But most people lack insight, refusing to be introspective. I fear that includes you, too, since my post motivated a response of denial. Propaganda? I can back my propositions with empirical evidence, that which is observable in the Animal Kingdom. Learn about the Natural Sciences and then get back to me.

[@christinagray6591]

"Mass murder is a very rare event" laughs in 2019

[@ravenrisby]

I must b one

[@ThievesInTheTreasureRoom]

Shut up

[@ssolx5527]

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