Jacek Kaczmarski - Katyń

Live 1990

[@zbikuzbiku9903]

Zawsze mam dreszcze, gdy słucham tego tekstu, muzyki, pianina.... Spoczywajcie z Bogiem..🐱🐱🐱🐱🐱🐱🐱

[@wzwiedzionykutacz]

Mocne. Ja pamiętam. Daj Boże żeby po mnie pamiętali.

[@dobrawodazoteciekawostki8161]

Jacek Kaczmarki stracil dwoje dzieci przez aborcje zony oraz dwoje wnukow przez aborcje corki. kzbin.info/www/bejne/nqOkfaGngphgidU

[@Damianlisiewicz5486]

Będą pamiętać

[@barteks.2423]

Pamiętam.

[@geraltzrivi7032]

@@dobrawodazoteciekawostki8161 Zawsze

[@jozefstyczynski9170]

rozmanek lepiej taki niż jakiegoś komucha. Bądź co bądź korwin jaki jest wszyscy wiemy ale mówi prawdę, czego wszystkie socjalisci i większość plebsu się boi

[@Krzychu14sas]

Mam 25 lat, dopiero teraz poznałem twórczość pana Kaczmarskiego. Żałuje że dopiero teraz. Utwór niesamowity, daje wiele do myślenia na przyszłość.

[@atosiskierka6967]

Ja poznałem Jego twórczość dawno i straszliwie żałuje, że nie obejrzałem go na żywo. Wybitny Artysta. Super, że ktoś wciąż go odkrywa.

[@pawelpilot9303]

Ja dopiero około roku temu w wieku 15 lat i raz żałuję, że tak późno. Ale lepiej późno, niż wcale. Pozdrawiam

[@Mateuszox1]

Ja mam 30 Lat i dopiero teraz to odkryłem, lepiej późno niż wcale. Bóg dał nam takiego artystę jakim był P. Kaczmarski, niestety nie ma go wśród nas. Zostawił po sobie wielkie dzieła. Niechaj spoczywa na wieki.

[@majaa1994]

Brawo!

[@justynkalandrynka4418]

Jesteśmy w tym samym wieku, i tak samo uważam(o sobie oczywiście), pieśń niesamowicie glęboka, dająca dużo do myślenia ...

[@katebush2623]

Dziś 19 rocznica śmierci Jacka. I jego Katyń jest tym z którym kojarzy mi się ta nazwa i ta data. Spoczywaj w pokoju Jacku, kocham cię Mistrzu.

[@marekas9308]

Niech Mu ziemi lekką będzie

[@michakaszuba5811]

Można się poryczeć... dziś nie ma już takich Artystów. Nie mam pojęcia co we łbach ma te 29 osób które dały "łapki w dół"

[@rl945]

Te 29 osòb które dały łapki w dòł: Putin, Ławrow, Pieskow, Zacharowa, Kisielow, Skabiejewa, maż Skabjejewej, Sołowjow, Żyrynowski, Aksjonow, Dugin, i 18 wnuków funkcjonariuszy NKWD.

[@tomasztomaszewski6130]

@@rl945 tyussk, budka, czarzasty, żukowska itd.

[@leanykakamilka2755]

"Oto świat bez śmierci, świat śmierci bez mordu, świat mordu bez rozkazu, rozkazu bez głosu, świat głosu bez ciała i ciała bez Boga, świat Boga bez imienia, imienia bez losu". Piękno.

[@wojciechladny1806]

Jako krewny człowieka, którego nazwisko znajduje się na liście katyńskiej odbieram szczególnie ten utwór...

[@bartoszrebelski8571]

ja też...

[@nellus4993]

​@@bartoszrebelski8571 I ja również. Co prawda, mój przodek cudem ocalał z transportu do Katynia (a właściwie, to do Charkowa w tym samym celu), ale wielu z jego towarzyszy broni już nie. Złapany przez Sowietów nad Niemnem po kampanii wrześniowej.

[@bartoszrebelski8571]

@@nellus4993 mój pradziadek wrócił do Baranowicz po rozwiązaniu Armii Modlin w której służył w kampanii wrześniowej. Tam został aresztowany przez NKWD i trafił do Kozielska. Zginął w Katyniu. Prababcia z córkami trafiły w kwietniu 1940 roku na zesłanie do Kazachstanu.

[@tomekpi1184]

​​@@bartoszrebelski8571 Brat mej Babci był zmobilizowany we wrześniu 1939 w Baranowiczach.. Ten sam los.. 29 lat.. student Politechniki Warszawskiej... Może się znali? Jerzy Stąporek...

[@agnieszkabacmaga-kazimiers4252]

​@@nellus4993 q

[@atosiskierka6967]

Ten spokojny pogrzebowy głos i to zimne zdecydowane spojrzenie Pana Jacka. Ja pier... Miazga!!!! W szkołach to puszczać!

[@michnikuremek]

W szkołach będzie LGBT, a nie Katyń......

[@jakub_h2687]

@@michnikuremek Kaczmarski myślisz, że nie znał osób ze społeczności LGBT? haha, to ty nie wiesz jacy są artyści

[@hubertkaczor7535]

@@michnikuremek No nie zesraj sie obrońco polskosci ,tak się składa ze w wielu szkołach puszczają.

[@jasam1059]

@@hubertkaczor7535 A czemu ma nie bronić polskości to twoim zdaniem czego ma bronić .Ty czego bronisz jeśli wogóle jest dla Ciebie jakaś świętość którą litościwie raczył byś bronić.

[@hubertkaczor7535]

@@jasam1059 przeczytaj komentarz osoby nad Tobą i zobaczysz o co mi chodzi.

[@nilf743]

"Kto nie szanuje i nie ceni swojej przeszłości, ten nie jest godzien szacunku, teraźniejszości ani prawa do przyszłości."

[@ved3046]

Józef Piłsudski

[@jurass76]

@@ved3046 w sumie to nie są jego słowa...jego brzmiały inaczej

[@beasnoil3139]

yyy co mają powiedzieć recydywiści i wnuki takich nazistów xd?

[@robertkoroscik8416]

ss s też mają powody do dumy jeśli o to co chodzi

[@Kuba-mj1ku]

@@jurass76 na terenie gminy na temat

[@Nevermindd87]

Z szacunku do ofiar tej zbrodni i Polskiej historii, póki żyje nigdy nie zapomne Katyń 1940 r.

[@paulinaczaplicka1060]

Zawsze mam ciarki, gdy tego słucham. I łzy w oczach.

[@krzysztofkrzysztof2931]

Pamiętajmy o tym" o pewnym brzasku w katynskim lasku strzelali do NAS sowieci" . KOCHAM TEN UTWÓR I POZDRAWIAM WSZYSTKICH KOCHAJĄCYCH POLSKĘ.

[@Kserkses13]

Nigdy nie możemy zapomnieć zbrodni i zbrodniarzy...

[@imuncomfortablebye2820]

Ciśnie się do światła niby warstwy skóry Tłok patrzących twarzy spod ruszonej darni Spoglądają jedna znad drugiej - do góry Ale nie ma ruin. To nie gród wymarły... Raz odkryte - krzyczą zatęchłymi usty Lecą sobie przez ręce wypróchniałe w środku W rów, co nigdy więcej nie będzie już pusty Ale nie ma krzyży. To nie groby przodków... Sprzączki i guziki z orzełkiem ze rdzy Po miskach czerepów - robaków gonitwy Zgniłe zdjęcia, pamiątki, mapy miast i wsi Ale nie ma broni. To nie pole bitwy... Może wszyscy byli na to samo chorzy? Te same nad karkiem okrągłe urazy Przez które do ziemi dar odpłynął Boży Ale nie ma znaków, że to grób zarazy... Jeszcze rosną drzewa, które to widziały Jeszcze ziemia pamięta kształt buta, smak krwi Niebo zna język, w którym komendy padały Nim padły wystrzały, którymi wciąż brzmi Ale to świadkowie żywi - więc stronniczy Zresztą, by ich słuchać - trzeba wejść do zony Na milczenie tych świadków może pan ich liczyć Pan powietrza i ziemi i drzew uwięzionych Oto świat bez śmierci. Świat śmierci bez mordu. Świat mordu bez rozkazu, rozkazu bez głosu. Świat głosu bez ciała i ciała bez Boga. Świat Boga bez imienia, imienia - bez losu. Jest tylko jedna taka świata strona Gdzie coś, co nie istnieje - wciąż o pomstę woła Gdzie już śmiechem nawet mogiła nie czczona Dół nieominięty - dla orła sokoła... "O pewnym brzasku w katyńskim lasku Strzelali do nas Sowieci..."

[@Kserkses13]

Katyń zawsze pamiętamy...

[@krzysztofdus6045]

Brakuje takich artystow dzisiaj :( Wsod tego chlamu dzisiejszych czasow to jest perła!

[@jaroslawkwiatkowski6253]

Jeśli nie znasz aktualnie nowej muzyki i ich wykonawców to nie mów ogólnikami i ich nie obrażaj. Ten artysta, jak każdy inny był jedyny w swoim rodzaju i zawsze każdego będzie brakować. Jednak posłuchaj choćby Marka Dyjaka czy Stanisławy Celińskiej to może zmienisz zdanie.

[@TheMattKrk]

Pamiętam 🕯

[@PejzazBlogspot]

[*] W 10 rocznicę śmierci poety i barda.

[@roksanaagata8169]

Dziś 13 kwietnia, Dzień Pamięci Ofiar Zbrodni Katyńskiej. Pamietamy !

[@1916Legiafull]

łzy same cisną się do oczu

[@KaroMac2]

Mam dylemat. Przy łapce w górę jest słówko "fajne". Jak fajnym może być utwór smutny i budzący ciarki na całym ciele? Ten utwór ominął "fajne" i ruszył dalej ku kategorii "pokarm dla duszy". Jak zresztą wiele tworów Kaczmarskiego.

[@grazyna5893]

Pokarm , nauka historii , pamięć i. UCZYC SIE Z HISTORI PRAWDY .

[@OkimeOlvx]

My great-grandfather died in Katyn, some ancestors of mine lived in eastern Poland (now it's Ukraine I think) my grandfather was always talking about russian crimes in occupied Poland and how they took his father when he was young, but he died in 2007. He was the last family member who could speak Polish. Idk why but my mother only speaks a few Polish words, probably because my grandma wasn't Polish and back then children would spend most of their childhood with the mother. Well at least my grandpa stayed in the west after 1945, so he didn't have to live in communist post-war Poland.

[@krzywy924]

Where do you live?

[@Patisson_1]

I can't even imagine how your grandfather must have felt when those beasts came. There is a feature film telling this story, and every time, the tears flow on their own. In the Katyń forest, the russians murdered those people who could have lifted this country off its knees after the war.

[@patriota1978]

My grandfather spent 5 years in the German concentration camp Dachau and Gusen-Mathausen. He survived and returned to Poland, where he married his brother's widow. He died in 1978. Throughout his life he repeated that a Russian is worse than a German.

[@mariachrzan2976]

@@patriota1978 No, banderowcy -jjjews and German!

[@Herszt111]

Końcówka dla mnie jest najlepiej zaśpiewana, tak jakby lekko a o tak poważnych rzeczach....

[@pawelbu4587]

Jacku słuchamy Cię do dziś !!!

[@eve2503]

Kiedy słucham Jacka Kaczmarskiego zastanawiam się skąd się wziął i kto wbrew wszystkim prawidłom ośmielił się go zabrać. Taki artysta rodzi się raz na dziesiątki milionów.

[@arkr5754]

Bil żonę i dzieci

[@ziomek5536]

Zgadzam sie z taba.. skad mozna brac taką głębokość tekstów,potocznym jezykim....

[@Venomus658]

Dzięki za tę wersję, pianino dużo bardziej pasuje niż syntezator.

[@ewa353]

Takie prawdziwe i zapisane w historii.

[@Carlly12345]

Nic dodać, nic ująć.

[@tomaszpolska7588]

God bless you. Thanks for the song!!!

[@joweg5866]

Mój Boże... Od pierwszych sekund łzy.

[@andrzejczarski8410]

Jeśli chcemy krytykować Pana Jacka jakim był człowiekiem , spójrzmy na biografie naszych wieszczów...Nikt nie jest idealny. Nic mu to z jego geniuszu. Świeć Panie nad jego duszą......

[@grazyna5893]

Lepiej sadźmy się sami ,nie będziemy sądzeni ✡️✝️☝️❤️‍🔥🙏🧎‍♂️

[@Konrad161]

mam jedno pytanie.. czemu tak dużo osób o tym zapomina? (nie wspomne o młodych). Czy w dzisiejszych czasach liczy się jedynie pieniądz? Gdzie patriotyzm? Gdzie umiłowanie do własnej ojczyzny. Gdzie się podział nasz Patriotyzm. Patriotyzm , którego nam wiele krajów zazdrości. Zamiast być wrogiem Polak- Polakowi, dbajmy przynajmniej o rodzinę, o tych których kochamy... Daj Boże, mój Kochany...

[@nracryz8231]

O Czym? O Katyniu? Nie sposób zapomnieć tyle Ci o tym przypominają plakatami w szkołach, apelami na rocznicę i lekcjami historii

[@ziomek5536]

Ja pamietam,my musimy pamiętać,trzeba zrobić wszystko zeby nasi potomkowie pamietali....

[@marcinkobrzynski646]

Ta nieoczywistość która powinna być oczywistością. Chapeau bas

[@Sargath666]

Kocham Cię Pradziadku.

[@bartoszrebelski8571]

Dzisiaj, 5.05.2018 jest 78 rocznica śmierci mojego pradziadka z rąk oprawców z NKWD w tym przeklętym lesie...

[@botanic300]

Przecież tego haniebnego czynu dokonano w kwietniu, a nie w maju... 🤬!

[@damianprzepiora9395]

Tam wszystko mogło sie wydarzyć, te miejsca to dzisiaj ukrywają tejemnice o których sie nigdy już nie dowiemy

[@bartoszrebelski8571]

@@botanic300 kwiecień-maj. Doczytaj proszę.

[@rl-rc7kb]

Pokój Jego Duszy

[@Kserkses13]

Katyń for ever Polish memory...

[@epitojatek]

Guziki ze rdzy.

[@felicjakryspin4216]

Spoczywaj w pokoju Jacku. Spoczywajcie w pokoju polegli w Katyniu ❤

[@naturalny145kg4]

ja też patrze na katyń codziennie to grób mojego dziada łzy same uciekają w ziemie

[@andbarw640]

Panie Jacku. Szacunek

[@-droid-5773]

Piękne

[@tomaszmalarczyk6408]

SILA I HONOR

[@hannatusk3720]

Szkoda że nie ma ich z nami zginęli dla ojczyzny to nie powinno się wydarzyć szkoda mi ich rodzin

[@wwaassyylleekk1]

pikne...

[@DanutaBoron-wm1ju]

Gdyby moja Ciocia żyła to by płakała.Jej mąż został wywieziony a ona nie wie gdzie był oficerem córki i syn nie żyją .Do tej pory pamiet jak mówiła o tej tragedii 🇵🇱❤️‍🩹

[@bujak3331]

Oj historyjio bez rozkazu ,jedna strona

[@kolegazmokotowa]

pozdrawiam wszystkich

[@damianem1913]

Poeta przez duze P

[@robertkoroscik8416]

Wielkie

[@jacek610]

Nie zapomnimy!

[@KrzysiekWawrytko]

Kanon Lektur! Panie i Panowie - to powinno znajdować się w kanonie lektur polskich szkół. Urzędnicy do roboty!

[@ksufler]

dlatego ja korzystam z angielskiej wersji youtube, gdzie mam napisane "like", co znaczy po prostu "lubię".. a piosenkę tę bardzo lubię, więc nie mam dylematu przy klikaniu :D pozdrawiam!

[@smiesznystudentsgsp6798]

Teraz cała trójka, może się spotkać...

[@huberychalimoniuk2335]

Gdzie?

[@AllinWhenPlaying]

@@huberychalimoniuk2335 Na kartach historii

[@rapanuja03]

@@huberychalimoniuk2335 tam,w co jak widać wątpisz..

[@marcorohr9511]

Ja pisalam na domach w Lublinie " Katyn pomscimy" 1979/ 1980/1981. Nikogo nie obchodzilo. A teraz jest moja Polska tylko Swieta Maryja, nie przyjacielska, nie ludzka, nie moja.

[@jolantapakonska3710]

Też jestem krewną młodego człowieka,który był rozstrzelany przez sowietów w Charkowie.. .skóra cierpnie i natasta gniew,kiedy słucham tej ballady/pieśni.

[@lucekkalafiorek342]

4:08 a wszystko to można było opisac w jednym zdaniu..

[@Tertulion1]

aż dreszcze przechodzą ;p

[@zarzadcanieruchomoscizielo4475]

Suicide Squad Neverwinter wiem

[@melonananas5577]

Płacz to za mało...

[@danielnowakowski601]

My Bydgoszczanie potrafimy rozwiazac miasto..

[@kamilooopendolino5593]

Zbliża się kolejna rocznica Wielgoludy

[@ewanowicki1297]

🎀🏅♥️

[@mlodystudent]

pan Jacek jest kurde wariatem

[@zofiatabot9661]

+mlodystudent na wzajem! !!!!!

[@stankuniakJan]

Nie pamiętasz tamtych czasów, więc zamilcz.

[@mlodystudent]

+mlodystudent oho odezwali się obroncy moralności "pani Zofia - kociara" i "pan Jan - podziwiający widoki pola" wezcie sobie ludzie na wstrzymanie jak nie wiecie co autor ma na myśli to się nie wypowiadajcie, tak sobie możesz mowic do swoich zapyziałych dzieci Panie Janie, widze nie rozumiesz obecnych czasów, wiec nie odzywaj się jak nie jesteś pytany i nie masz nic ciekawego do powiedzenia, ja jak nie wiem o czym mowa to sie nie odzywam

[@stankuniakJan]

Błądzisz jak dziecko w gęstej mgle.

[@bourbon5983]

Ostatni wers ma siłę by łamać kości i obyczaje.

[@danielnowakowski601]

ja stane zawsze

[@werkfilm]

Dziadek tam zginął

[@maksymilian8103]

Współczucia. [*]

[@SmiemWierzyc]

"Wciąż o pomstę woła" - wysłuchana jest to prośba. Bardzo wielu uwikłanych w tą zbrodnię popełniło samobójstwo. Czy ktoś pomógł czy nie, to już szczegół. Więc nawiązanie, "bez Boga" czy "bezimiennego Boga" nietrafne. Pan Bóg nierychliwy, ale sprawiedliwy.

[@kaludzio]

olawa

[@korova96]

Co masz na myśli? Skoro o czymś się zapomina, to przypomnij, albo rozwiń temat, bo to dosyć ciekawe.

[@Kserkses13]

For ever GPU crime...

[@Kserkses13]

22 thousand Polish officers executed by Soviet secret police in 1940!!!

[@jaqooo]

Mam propozycję. Po drodze na koncert Peji zainwestuj w słownik... Jeśli chcesz - słuchaj muzyki jaką lubisz, ale nie oceniaj tej, której nie słuchasz i na której się nie znasz. Ja nie wypowiadam się o muzyce Peji, więc po co Ty wypowiadasz się o muzyce Jacka Kaczmarskiego?...

[@ziemniak5864]

można gdzieś znaleźć do tego nuty na gitarę?

[@kerembarbaros9575]

Fucking amazing!

[@POLSKA_OJCZYZNA]

*PRECZ CHAMIE!!!*

[@michuWAWAREM]

884 ucz sie historii i lecz się .....

[@sebastiandobrzynski1889]

Dlaczego tylko Katyń a gdzie jest Wołyń? ach szkoda niewygodny politycznie szkoda

[@jaqooo]

Kto śmiał głosować na nie?!?

[@gunia7]

Jakieś kurwy, bo inaczej nie da się ich nazwać.

[@Kammar90]

Peja słuchał Kaczmarskiego, czego dowodem jest jego cover utworu Kaczmarskiego "Pijak". Twój idol uznałby Cię za debila. Bo widzisz, ogółem gatunek poezji śpiewanej może Ci się nie podobać. Ale wielkości Jacka Kaczmarskiego nie powinieneś podważać.

[@annazachura9325]

Kocham Jego tworczosc.

[@mariuszkulawik6490]

Kim, a raczej czym, żeby coś takiego zrobić.

[@44ZOFIA]

Wyć się chce !!!!

[@j.k8139]

[*]

[@botanic300]

To, co robił Kaczmarski na polu artystycznym, zasługuje na szacunek i pamięć kolejnych pokoleń - oby koszmar wojny, stalinizmu i lat 80tych nigdy do nas nie wróciła... ale oburza mnie przesadne stawianie go na piedestale, niczym naszych XIX - wiecznych wieszczów i to, jak był bardzo zakłamaną szmatą (pisał i śpiewał o wolności, o totalitaryzmie oraz kraju ciemiężonym przez radzieckie wpływy, a prywatnie miał w 4 literach swoich najbliższych, zwłaszcza córkę... ja tam wierzę w jej słowa)! ✌,😠

[@grazyna5893]

CO TY możesz wiedzieć o JACKU jak MOZESZ to osądzać, oceniać. Od 11 roku tworzył ,sam POWIEDZIAL 1 wiersz się zachował. ..Gdyby ludzie byli ZYLI nie wyprzedzać BOZY SYN JEZUS CHRYSTUS NIE MUSIAŁBY UMIERAC za nas ludzi.

[@kuba567g]

Nie karm trolla.

[@marekhorodyski]

Ej, Leon - w 1 wś nie było Polski, a co dopiero polskiej armii.

[@grazyna5893]

BYLA W SERCACH ŻYCIU POLAKOW .

[@johnsnowkumar359]

The Soviet armies advancing westwards in about 1944 towards formerly Nazi occupied.. The Soviet armies advancing westwards in about 1944 towards formerly Nazi occupied Katyn forests noticed two men in dirty Soviet army uniform trying to hide among men in Nazi army uniform of prison guards, and the duo were trying to avoid the advancing Soviet armies: they were trying to escape: Both claimed to be German nationals in halting German with an accent and but had no dog tags or identification papers, unlike the German prison guards. The two tried to retreat and hide among the Nazi guards (who were wearing somewhat cleaner German army uniforms) who seemed to know them well. Germans in Nazi uniform were of Nazi guards of Axis POW prison camps of the general area about 100 miles from Katyn. One man in dirty Soviet uniform had a name, and was Mr. Blokhin. When arrested, both men falsely claimed to be German nationals, adding that they committed no crimes in the past few months and years at the Axis run POW prison camp. This statement made the Soviet officials very suspicious. The Germans even seemed to be their buddies. The Germans just corroborated the stories narrated by the two men in dirty Soviet uniforms. The German prison guards just told Soviet interrogators that if the two former Soviet prisoners of war had indeed confessed they had recently shot only 100 Polish officers, in Axis run POW prison camps, that must be true. Further, if all of the 100 executed Poles survived, that must be true too, agreed the German former prison guards 100 miles from Katyn or so. They tried to run away with Nazi guards and German soldiers, who were wearing somewhat cleaner Nazi uniforms. The two men in Soviet army uniform were arrested. The two arrested Soviet soldiers were white guys and pretended to be German nationals to the interrogating Soviet army officials, which had just arrested the two along with the Nazi soldiers and Nazi prison guards. When interrogated by slightly more educated Soviet political officers of the Soviet army asked the duo to name any two German provinces, such as Bavaria and Bohemia. The Soviet duo arrested near Katyn forests who were pretending to be Germans could not name a single German province such as Bavaria. More investigations and interrogations followed, and this was by Soviet investigators::: Based on their questionings and limited forensic tests with magnifying glasses: what the duo did during ww2 period of Axis occupation of the Katyn forests was likely massacre of 1000 prisoners, despite the Soviet ex-soldiers claims to have shot just 100 Poles each, who they say, all survived. The duo along with the third man who committed suicide were likely to have killed just about 1000 Polish prisoners, based on bullet holes on skulls of victims. More likely, the three men killed about 1000 Polish officers and fellow prisoners in this Nazi controlled POW prison camp about 100 miles from Katyn. They decided that Nazi border guards killed 15000 Polish officers. Two or three Soviet ex prisoners of war killed 1000 Polish ex officers:: The rest of the skeletons were likely Soviet nationals and likely ethnic Russian Nazi victims of nazi battles, as some men were wearing white sweaters, the investigators decided. Border Polish guards of recent times tell young visitors from Russia coming to buy Polish sausages, "You are no longer welcome, based on some allegations. During ww2, Some Polish prisoners of war living as inmates in a Nazi POW prison camp with three POW's of Soviet national origin were supposedly killed by either Germans or Soviets. We cannot raise a hue and cry against Germans because we got five provinces from Germans as war reparations after ww2. When we gained land with houses from Germany, the beauty of the average Polish houses increased. " Soviets say the date of Massacre was March 5th 1942. Some people of German origin say the date of massacre was march 5, 1941. Others say the day of massacre was March 5th 1942. What is the order number for a Katyn massacre? While Hitler issued very large number of verbal orders ("I am ordering the burning and destruction of Paris. Is Paris burning yet? " is an example of Hitler's , Stalin only issued signed orders. Stalin never issued unsigned orders, never oral orders. There is no order number for a Katyn massacre. Either three Soviet soldiers or many German officers had killed the 15,000 Polish prisoners of war, as claimed by the Soviet prisoners of war under German control, who were soldiers and the Germans killed the Polish officers. The pistols and handguns used in the killing of surrendered Polish military officers were the Walther P38, a standard issue of officers of the Third Reich and Nazi military officers. The investigations were by Soviet investigators who overran the Katyn forests which the Soviets wrested back from Nazi invaders. soviet investigators :: They concluded that the killings were by three executioners: this was the conclusion of the investigating Soviet officers during ww2. They concluded that exactly three pistols were used, by looking up the forensics of the case and in looking up the bullet fragments. The Soviet investigators blamed three Nazi mad soldiers of of the Third Reich: The investigators claimed three Germans had likely killed the Polish officers in the Katyn Forests during ww2, by using Walther P38 handguns (pistols). As there are no witnesses it is more likely that the three soldiers were of Soviet national origin. Actually, very likely (there were no witnesses who could corroborate) three fellow prisoners of war in the POW camp mostly inhabited by Polish POW had forcibly made Soviet soldiers to shot the 15,000 Polish officers in the Katyn forests, most likely. Actually, three mad Soviet soldiers were rounded up and interviewed: they said they were prisoners along with the Polish army, and they said that , under duress from Nazi military officers in the Nazi confinement area in Russia they had just shot about 100 Polish officers each for a grand total of three hundred Polish officers killed by the three Soviet prison camp run and managed by Nazi Germany under Hitler. This was because the Nazi Germans had coerced the three Soviet soldiers to shoot down 100 Polish fellow prisoners each. Turns out, the threesome Soviet prisoners in the Nazi prison camp actually may have killed 1000 Poles, as only 1000 bullet fragments of Walther P38 pistols were extracted out of skulls of uncovered dead soldiers in Katyn. Earlier the two Soviet soldiers said they German officers had given the three Soviet men just three Walther P38 pistols and Nazi officers of the Nazi run prison camp ordered them to shoot 100 Polish officers, if they want to survive the current war (ww2). The executions was re-assigned to German prison guards, right after the third prison guard committed suicide. The name of one of thr three Red army soldiers trying to hide with the Nazi prison guards, and pretending to be a German national, was Mr. Blockhin. He claimed he just shot 100 Polish officers by firing at an angle from victims, and that all of the 100 Poles survived his shots with the German Walther P38 gun in the Nazi controlled prison camp, with German officers watching.

[@zinneagutz1497]

Do you know about the young children who were taken from Poland by the Germans, possibly for adoption, during the war?

[@szader]

Naucz się pisać dziecko. A twój peja szanował i słuchał Jacka , dokładnie kawałek 'Pijak' , Wilku WDZ nawijał "Jacek Kaczmarski śpiewał obława obława a teraz ścigaja za to że masz grama"

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[@user-nq4tv4wq5w]

Катынь...... ,что там было, кто это сделал....? Господь судья. А нашим детям и внукам жить дальше. Аминь...

[@johnsnowkumar359]

After ww1, America refused to join the League of Nations. Soviet Union refused to sign key elements of the League of Nations, such as decent treatment and feeding and housing of enemy prisoners of war, thereby ensuring the demise of the League of Nations. Just about a decade after ww1 though, the Soviet Union re-aligned it's budgets and expenditure so that future enemy prisoners of war in Soviet POW prisons had sufficient food for the most part. Soviets took initiatives to ensure future enemy prisons of war were nearly always housed acceptably and took steps to enable that it's armed forces were capable of feeding future foreign prisoners of war sufficiently, if required. When 2.5 million Soviet military personnel surrendered to Nazi Germany and it's Axis allies during the initial weeks of Operation Barbarossa (Original name Operation Fritz), the Nazi Germany as a government (not Germans as a people) were not ready to feed these Soviet prisoners of war. Most people had expected Stalin the leader of the Soviet Union to surrender and it's demise as a war machine. So, what does it mean to be a prisoners of war? Meaning: You may be starved to death. After 2.5 million Soviet soldiers had surrendered and were put behind barbed wires, Nazi prison guards on the other side of barbed wire open field POW prisons for a few weeks used to toss a few buns of bread to tens of thousands of hungry Soviets prisoners of war housed in open fields behind barbed wire fences (in group photos / video of the 2.5 million prisoners of war) in one video picture shot by a Nazi German soldier, as seen in youtube videos. So, if you are a new prisoner of war anywhere, you may not be fed ANY FOOD at all after about 1 week in captivity if you as an enemy soldier surrender to Nazi armies. This can happen especially if you are part of a group of 2.5 million surrendering prisoners of war which surrendered to the German Nazi forces and axis armies within a few weeks of start of invasion, as planned under Operation BARBAROSSA (Operation Fritz was the original name). Nazi Germany had already promised to use food stock of Nazi Germany to also feed the Axis armies of Fascist Italy and the Army of Romanian army. So, Nazi Germany had to also feed possibly another one million Romanian soldiers, day after day, So, Nazi Germany fed Romanians and Italian armies for months and years right after start of the invasion process. To be fair: Nazi Germany did have enough Nazi food to feed an army: Their own Nazi army, Luftwaffe and other Nazi military personnel. After Nazi Germany started feeding the additional Romanian army and Italian Fascist armies daily, there was no food left to feed 2.5 million new Soviet prisoners of war. When 2.5 million Soviet military personnel surrendered in the initial weeks of Invasion, Nazi Germany was already reeling/: they were feeding French prisoners of war too, and many others who could retaliate much more severely against Germany if their prisoners of war were starved to death by Nazi Germany. * This can also happen today. If Angela Merkelr as leader of Nazi Germany in 1942 had the choice to feed only one group of prisoners of war from an American army or a large group Soviet prisoners of war*** She would likely first feed the American prisoners of war full meals and then, feed the left overs to the Soviet prisoners of war, likely. Nazis had earlier thought and contemplated on starving to death the Polish prisoners of war in other Nazi prison of war camps housing Polish prisoners of war. But the prospects of retaliation by other Catholic nations may be swift and relentless, and so the Nazi Germans decided to move some of the the Polish armies of prisoners of war further east , well into the soviet Union. Polish prisoners were ones that they had fed for a whole year prior to Operation Barbarossa. Nazi Germans guarding Polish prisoners of war also waited it out for opportunities to kill huge groups of Polish prisoners of war, and these Poles under the right circumstances were to be starved to death also by Nazi prison guards, if the opportunity to starve came up. Nazi prison guards of Polish prisoners of war kept waiting for an opportunity to kill the Polish prisoners, likely by starving them to death. .. . To decrease the number of mouths to feed out of 2.5 new Soviet million prisoners of war, Nazi officers initially asked prison guards to shoot down about 17,000 political officers among the 2.5 million prisoners of war. That left 2.433 million mouths to feed in the form of Soviet prisoners of war. After ww1, the Kaiser's Germany of ww1 was imposed a penalty and fine of 80 million dollars by America, soon after the war came to an end with armistice day, in a war situation that we would call a tie today. Ever since this penalty of 80 billion dollars was imposed, Germany was always respectful of America, and started treating American prisoners of war with kid gloves, always feeding them: Nazi Germany was afraid America under Roosevelt may impose another 80 billion dollars in penalties on Nazi Germany after world war 2. So the solution was to feed Americans regular meals. German leaders ,like Hitler had seen enough American cowboy movies to be wary of American governments, and so American prisoners were never staved to death by Nazi Germany. Before 1944, the surviving prisoners of war of the Nazi armies and Axis armies which surrendered in Stalingrad two years earlier were hungry by midnight after a light dinner at 6 pm. More or less from January 1st 1945 onwards, the prisoners of war of Axis armies in most Soviet POW prison camps were given extra blankets, and were flooded with more food on a daily basis, couple of cans of Spam like Soviet manufactured boiled ham a week, and were promised regular good food and clean hygienic prison clothing by commandants of prison guards. Axis Prisoners of war asked: "New years day is over. This prison camp party should be over. WHY are we being served so much food, cans, and blankets every day even after New years day of 1945? Prison commandant: "Comrade prisoners, We are headed for Germany and Romania. We need your cooperation and goodwill. We have brand new equipment to destroy Nazi land mines on our way to Nazi Germany."

[@johnsnowkumar359]

The two Soviet prisoners of war found by advancing Soviet troops being transferred westwards from the far east of the Soviet Union = Soviet armies advancing westwards found two Soviet prisoners hiding with Nazi prison guards about 100 miles from Katyn in 1944. The logic was, the Soviet prisoners of war should have gladly escaped from the Nazi POW prison guards. The duo claimed that mostly German prison guards and three Nazi German officers killed Poles in Katyn forests on March 5th, 1942. Plus , they were three (a trio) not just a duo. Only one prisoner of war of Soviet national origin was forced by Nazi prison guards to shoot and kill 100 Polish prisoners when ordered to fire a Walther P38 pistol at prisoners of Polish national origin at the Nazi POW prison camp. Blockhin and the other Soviet prisoner say they never ever killed any Polish prisoners of war of Polish origin when ordered by German POW prison guards to shoot 100 Polish prisoners each. The two prisoners in Nazi prisons living as fellow inmates to the Polish officers claimed to have not aimed German guns directly at about 100 Polish fellow prisoners as per German officers orders, thereby saving lives. The Soviet duo further claimed that they were not murderers as all 100 Polish prisoners survived without so much as a single drop of blood, two Soviets claimed, and that they were assigned to shoot at by coercion. They told Soviet interrogators they were afraid of persecution by allied soldiers as they had fired about 100 bullets towards Polish prisoners, as per orders from German officers in the Axis POW camp. The two claimed that three Soviet prisoners of war had just been ordered to kill Poles, but they did not shoot to kill, both claimed. The two Soviet prisoner in to Nazi prison camp meant to house most Poles. the duo claim that after shooting the 100th Pole without killing any Polish prisoner, who was a fellow prisoner, the third Soviet soldier committed suicide. The three Soviet prisoners were hyuuriedly sent back to inmate baracks of the Nazi operated prison on March 5th 1942, both Soviet prisoners claim. After the third Soviet prisoner was sent back to the prisoner barracks, the execution by three German officer and about 50 Nazi prison guards started in earnest, some time around March 5th 1942, as claimed by former poisoners of war Mr. Blockhim, one of the three Soviet prisoners forced by Nazi officers to execute just a few of the 16000 Polish prisoners. The purpose of the Nazi propaganda was to destroy the alliance between Soviet Union of the west. The Soviet armies advancing westwards in about 1944 towards formerly Nazi occupied Katyn forests noticed two men in dirty Soviet army uniform trying to hide among men in Nazi army uniform of prison guards: they were trying to escape: Both claimed to be German nationals in halting German with an accent and had no dog tags or identification papers, unlike the German prison guards. they tried to retreat and hide among the Nazi guards (who were wearing somewhat cleaner German army uniforms) who seemed to know them well. Germans in Nazi uniform were of Nazi guards of Axis POW prison camps of the general area about 100 miles from Katyn. One man in dirty Soviet uniform had a name, and was Mr. Blokhin. When arrested, both men falsely claimed to be German nationals, adding that they committed no crimes in the past few months. The Germans even seemed to be their buddies. The Germans just corroborated the stories narrated by the two men in dirty Soviet uniforms. The German prson guards just told interrogators that if the two former Soviet prisoners of war had indeed said they had recently shot only 100 Polish officers, that must be true. Further, if all of the 100 executed Poles survived, that must be true too. They tried to run away with Nazi guards and German soldiers, who were wearing somewhat cleaner Nazi uniforms. The two men in Soviet army uniform were arrested. The two arrested Soviet soldiers were white guys and pretended to be German nationals to the interrogating Soviet army officials, which had just arrested the two along with the Nazi soldiers and Nazi prison guards. When interrogated by slightly more educated Soviet political officers of the Soviet army, the Soviet duo near Katyn forests who were pretending to be Germans could not name a single German province such as Bavaria. More investigations and interrogations followed, and this was by Soviet investigators::: Based on their questionings and limited forensic tests with magnifying glasses: what the duo did during ww2 period of Axis occupation of the Katyn forests was likely massacre of 1000 prisoners, despite the Soviet ex-soldiers claims to have shot just 100 Poles each, who they say, all survived. The duo along with the third man who committed suicide were likely to have killed just about 1000 Polish prisoners, based on bullet holes on skulls of victims. More likely, the three men killed about 1000 Polish officers and fellow prisoners in this Nazi controlled POW prison camp about 100 miles from Katyn. They decided that Nazi border guards killed 15000 Polish officers. Two or three Soviet ex prisoners of war killed 1000 Polish ex officers:: The rest of the skeletons were likely Soviet nationals and likely ethnic Russian Nazi victims of nazi battles, as some men were wearing white sweaters, the investigators decided. Border Polish guards of recent times tell young visitors from Russia coming to buy Polish sausages, "You are no longer welcome, based on some allegations. During ww2, Some Polish prisoners of war living as inmates in a Nazi POW prison camp with three POW's of Soviet national origin were supposedly killed by either Germans or Soviets. We cannot raise a hue and cry against Germans because we got five provinces from Germans as war reparations after ww2. When we gained land with houses from Germany, the beauty of the average Polish houses increased. " The two Soviets say the date of Massacre was March 5th 1942, as the two were right there as fellow inmates to the 16000 Polish officers. Both spoke broken German they learnt from the German prison guards in the POW prison camp 100 mils from Katyn forests. Some people of German origin say the date of massacre was march 5, 1941. Others say the day of massacre was March 5th 1942. What is the order number for a Katyn massacre? While Hitler issued very large number of verbal orders ("I am ordering the burning and destruction of Paris. Is Paris burning yet? " is an example of Hitler's , Stalin only issued signed orders. Stalin never issued unsigned orders, never oral orders. There is no order number for a Katyn massacre. Either three Soviet soldiers or many German officers had killed the 15,000 Polish prisoners of war, as claimed by the Soviet prisoners of war under German control, who were soldiers and the Germans killed the Polish officers. The pistols and handguns used in the killing of surrendered Polish military officers were the Walther P38, a standard issue of officers of the Third Reich and Nazi military officers. The investigations were by Soviet investigators who overran the Katyn forests which the Soviets wrested back from Nazi invaders. soviet investigators :: They concluded that the killings were by three executioners: this was the conclusion of the investigating Soviet officers during ww2. They concluded that exactly three pistols were used, by looking up the forensics of the case and in looking up the bullet fragments. The Soviet investigators blamed three Nazi mad soldiers of of the Third Reich: The investigators claimed three Germans had likely killed the Polish officers in the Katyn Forests during ww2, by using Walther P38 handguns (pistols). As there are no witnesses it is more likely that the three soldiers were of Soviet national origin. Actually, very likely (there were no witnesses who could corroborate) three fellow prisoners of war in the POW camp mostly inhabited by Polish POW had forcibly made Soviet soldiers to shot the 15,000 Polish officers in the Katyn forests, most likely. Actually, three mad Soviet soldiers were rounded up and interviewed: they said they were prisoners along with the Polish army, and they said that , under duress from Nazi military officers in the Nazi confinement area in Russia they had just shot about 100 Polish officers each for a grand total of three hundred Polish officers killed by the three Soviet prison camp run and managed by Nazi Germany under Hitler. This was because the Nazi Germans had coerced the three Soviet soldiers to shoot down 100 Polish fellow prisoners each. Turns out, the threesome Soviet prisoners in the Nazi prison camp actually may have killed 1000 Poles, as only 1000 bullet fragments of Walther P38 pistols were extracted out of skulls of uncovered dead soldiers in Katyn. He and the other Soviet prisoner of war both claim innocence (third Soviet prisoner committed suicide when asked to shoot his 101st Polish fellow prisoner. The surviving duo out of the trio ordered by Nazi officers said that the two Soviet prisoners fired the German guns away from Polish prisoners of war, just to graze the hair of the Polish officers. Gun was given by the German officers and Nazi prison guards standing right behind, who were coercing them, both claimed. They were relieved by German prison guards only after the third Soviet prisoner committed suicide, both claimed. They claimed that the dead Soviet soldier was the bad among the three as the dead man just before committing suicide had shot P38 pistols to kill 100 Polish prisoners of war in the Nazi run prison on March 5th 1942, unlike the surviving duo including Blockhin. The duo claimed that the dead Soviet prisoner of war under duress from Nazi German prison guards and Nazi military officers killed 100 Poles, while the surviving duo did NOT kill a single Polish officer.

[@zinneagutz1497]

Do you know about the young children who were taken from Poland by the Germans, possibly for adoption, during the war?

[@johnsnowkumar359]

The Poles of today are highly intelligent. Before ww2, they were different. If any neighborhood or town had a mixed population of Germans and Poles, the Poles would keep producing more babies until the Poles end up acquiring that city with a mixed population. eg. Danzig. After ww1, America refused to join the League of Nations. Soviet Union refused to sign key elements of the League of Nations, such as decent treatment and feeding and housing of enemy prisoners of war, thereby ensuring the demise of the League of Nations. Just about a decade after ww1 though, the Soviet Union re-aligned it's budgets and expenditure so that future enemy prisoners of war in Soviet POW prisons had sufficient food for the most part. Soviets took initiatives to ensure future enemy prisons of war were nearly always housed acceptably and took steps to enable that it's armed forces were capable of feeding future foreign prisoners of war sufficiently, if required. When 2.5 million Soviet military personnel surrendered to Nazi Germany and it's Axis allies during the initial weeks of Operation Barbarossa (Original name Operation Fritz), the Nazi Germany as a government (not Germans as a people) were not ready to feed these Soviet prisoners of war. Most people had expected Stalin the leader of the Soviet Union to surrender and it's demise as a war machine. So, what does it mean to be a prisoners of war? Meaning: You may be starved to death. After 2.5 million Soviet soldiers had surrendered and were put behind barbed wires, Nazi prison guards on the other side of barbed wire open field POW prisons for a few weeks used to toss a few buns of bread to tens of thousands of hungry Soviets prisoners of war housed in open fields behind barbed wire fences (in group photos / video of the 2.5 million prisoners of war) in one video picture shot by a Nazi German soldier, as seen in youtube videos. So, if you are a new prisoner of war anywhere, you may not be fed ANY FOOD at all after about 1 week in captivity if you as an enemy soldier surrender to Nazi armies. This can happen especially if you are part of a group of 2.5 million surrendering prisoners of war which surrendered to the German Nazi forces and axis armies within a few weeks of start of invasion, as planned under Operation BARBAROSSA (Operation Fritz was the original name). Nazi Germany had already promised to use food stock of Nazi Germany to also feed the Axis armies of Fascist Italy and the Army of Romanian army. So, Nazi Germany had to also feed possibly another one million Romanian soldiers, day after day, So, Nazi Germany fed Romanians and Italian armies for months and years right after start of the invasion process. To be fair: Nazi Germany did have enough Nazi food to feed an army: Their own Nazi army, Luftwaffe and other Nazi military personnel. After Nazi Germany started feeding the additional Romanian army and Italian Fascist armies daily, there was no food left to feed 2.5 million new Soviet prisoners of war. When 2.5 million Soviet military personnel surrendered in the initial weeks of Invasion, Nazi Germany was already reeling/: they were feeding French prisoners of war too, and many others who could retaliate much more severely against Germany if their prisoners of war were starved to death by Nazi Germany. * This can also happen today. If Angela Merkelr as leader of Nazi Germany in 1942 had the choice to feed only one group of prisoners of war from an American army or a large group Soviet prisoners of war*** She would likely first feed the American prisoners of war full meals and then, feed the left overs to the Soviet prisoners of war, likely. Nazis had earlier thought and contemplated on starving to death the Polish prisoners of war in other Nazi prison of war camps housing Polish prisoners of war. But the prospects of retaliation by other Catholic nations may be swift and relentless, and so the Nazi Germans decided to move some of the the Polish armies of prisoners of war further east , well into the soviet Union. Most were moved by Nazi geman troops to a province called Smolensk. Polish prisoners were ones that the Nazis had fed for a whole year prior to Operation Barbarossa, and the Nazi prison guards wanted to get rid of this Polish POW burden. Nazi Germans guarding Polish prisoners of war also waited it out for opportunities to kill huge groups of Polish prisoners of war, and these Poles under the right circumstances were to be starved to death also by Nazi prison guards, if the opportunity to starve came up. Nazi prison guards of Polish prisoners of war kept waiting for an opportunity to kill the Polish prisoners, likely by starving them to death. .. . To decrease the number of mouths to feed out of 2.5 new Soviet million prisoners of war, Nazi officers initially asked prison guards to shoot down about 17,000 political officers among the 2.5 million prisoners of war. That left 2.433 million mouths to feed in the form of Soviet prisoners of war. After ww1, the Kaiser's Germany of ww1 was imposed a penalty and fine of 80 million dollars by America, soon after the war came to an end with armistice day, in a war situation that we would call a tie today. Ever since this penalty of 80 billion dollars was imposed, Germany was always respectful of America, and started treating American prisoners of war with kid gloves, always feeding them: Nazi Germany was afraid America under Roosevelt may impose another 80 billion dollars in penalties on Nazi Germany after world war 2. So the solution was to feed Americans regular meals. German leaders ,like Hitler had seen enough American cowboy movies to be wary of American governments, and so American prisoners were never staved to death by Nazi Germany. Before 1944, the surviving prisoners of war of the Nazi armies and Axis armies which surrendered in Stalingrad two years earlier were hungry by midnight after a light dinner at 6 pm. More or less from January 1st 1945 onwards, the prisoners of war of Axis armies in most Soviet POW prison camps were given extra blankets, and were flooded with more food on a daily basis, couple of cans of Spam like Soviet manufactured boiled ham a week, and were promised regular good food and clean hygienic prison clothing by commandants of prison guards. Axis Prisoners of war asked: "New years day is over. This prison camp party should be over. WHY are we being served so much food, cans, and blankets every day even after New years day of 1945? Prison commandant: "Comrade prisoners, We are headed for Germany and Romania. We need your cooperation and goodwill. We have brand new equipment to destroy Nazi land mines on our way to Nazi Germany."

[@marekhorodyski]

Co sowieci robili w Borach Tucholskich ?

[@MrFan74]

Za to Cię zabili Jacku

[@alicjaukasiak9827]

MrFan74 Zabił go rak.

[@dobrawodazoteciekawostki8161]

Jacek Kaczmarki stracil dwoje dzieci przez aborcje zony oraz dwoje wnukow przez aborcje corki. kzbin.info/www/bejne/nqOkfaGngphgidU

[@harvest3166]

Czyli nie stracił w sumie dzieci tylko płody

[@Pejafanable]

na przykład k***a ja bo nie moge sluhać tych smentów ide na koncert Peji a nie do opery bo sluham normalnej muzy

[@kaiserfranciszek8838]

Ta też jest normalna, ta jest wspanialsza, bardziej podniosła, prawdziwa i poważna

[@kaiserfranciszek8838]

A i naucz się pisać po polsku bo nie wróże Polsce świetlanej przeszłości z takim pokoleniem

[@petersydow4002]

jestes idiota

[@884Leon]

A może tak o tym co spowodowalo katyń. Co polska armia zrobiła ruskim w borach tucholskich do dziś nikt o tym głośno nie mówi

[@pawekuczynski6350]

Szkoda że mistrz o Wołyniu nie zdążył napisać bo w porównaniu z tym co się tam działo strzał w głowe jest niczym

[@hanskloss5755]

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[@hanskloss5755]

14.04.22 trollik ru.

[@PanKsiadzPedofilita-mv1eq]

Katyń to tragiczny i brutalny koniec sanacyjnej polityki. Niestety Beck, Rydz-Śmigły i inni Dyzmowie w porównaniu do psychopaty Stalina to byli intelektualne zera.