Jack Goodhue reacts to winning another Super Rugby title | Aotearoa Rugby Pod

[@JimmyKip]

Actually one more thing, now that pre-season is almost done and we'll soon be in to the top flight with the NPC, cheers for the all your work producing the pod, best Rugby Pod going, by miles!

[@connorsmith5924]

Special guest star was pretty good actually not gonna lie

[@davidpeters3857]

Great,I’m so happy for you,any other nuggets of wisdom?

[@nakedref8997]

I second that, great yarn

[@dominicnz]

I third that! Watching this from overseas, couldn’t stop smiling at this true kiwi - the mullety locks, the jerseys obsession, the great Wallabies call, his job 🐸…

[@connorsmith5924]

@@dominicnz I reckon he shouldn't be a regular!

[@dominicnz]

@@connorsmith5924 shurely you mean "should" ;)

[@stevenbissett]

Liam did well on the show i thought. Congratulations on winning the competition.

[@seanoconnell9233]

Another excellent show guys!! I'm a kiwi-expat based in Japan (been home for close to 30 years now). My full-time gig is a uni professor (multicultural/intercultural communication field) where I'm also the director of rugby for the uni club team in Nagoya, Aichi (home of TOYOTA VERBLITZ). During the RWC 2019, I took a research sabbatical and worked as the team liaison officer for Scotland till Japan put an end us moving forward..ah well. I'd be really interested to hear from Bryn about his first season in Japan, especially regarding the ins and outs of settling into life and playing rugby in Japan. I think it'd be really interesting for viewers as well as any players looking to come over here (and I'd say the numbers will only increase in the future) in terms of the communication style differences, cultural eye-openers etc. If you ever have time on the show to reflect on Bryn's insights, it'd be really interesting to listen to. Keep up the good work fellas. Always an awesome show to watch!!

[@mikescudder4621]

I´ve heard Bryn and others talk about Japan quite a bit. Seems to me that with such a large group of expats\team mates, its very easy for the players to live in bubbles... but it would be interesting. Your Japanese must be pretty good mate, 30 years!!

[@dominicnz]

As a Tokyo-based kiwi expat, first - pretty jealous about your gig! And secondly I agree - would love to hear Brynner’s Japan/rugby insights

[@seanoconnell9233]

@@dominicnz yeah, the RWC2019 experience is something I will treasure forever. Such a full-on, intense time, but it was a real eye-opener in terms of what it takes to get the guys onto the field and all that goes on in prep behind the scenes. Like you say, getting Bryn's reflections on his first year here would be insightful to say the least.

[@seanoconnell9233]

@@mikescudder4621 yeah most of the clubs have a great team of support staff!! You can go the bubble approach or blend it with a bit of going native here. Yeah, I get by mate…used to be a full time interpreter/translator b4 uni work.

[@joshuaditoka6051]

Guest star Liam was pretty cool to listen too. Congrats on winning the tipping comp as well.

[@PJSO]

Awesome bloke winning the tipping comp and love the questions for him too. That Abs grey jersey was awesome. Don't back down for your jersey love Ross!

[@liamireland8915]

I had to skip over some of the Crusaders stuff but man I did enjoy the tipping comp winner. Clever man and quite handsome as well I must say 😉. Thanks for having me team, great show as always.

[@Cheeseoncrackas]

Haha, well done on the tipping comp mate. Thought you spoke pretty well, too. Might have to find myself one of those late 90's retro rugby shirts as well 😀

[@rogue_luko]

Bro you're a natural on screen - could've sworn you were a regular panellist on the show; perhaps ditch the frog studies for tv & media studies :)

[@avi8ordude]

Legend 🍻

[@davidpeters3857]

Excellent craic Liam,such a natural mate

[@nzcoops_au]

Thanks for the pod this season lads. A hurting but not bitter Chiefs fan here, a couple of questions/thoughts. I keep hearing "the Chiefs discipline cost them", as a sort of 'rationale' behind the Crusaders winning. A technical question, do penalties that are given but are not paid get included in the game's penalty count? A follow-up (which might make that clearer). ALB goes off, 14 v 15, Chiefs first good attack into the Crusaders half. 16:46 pen adv Goodhue not rolling away, 17:05 new pen adv Taylor (?) hands in the ruck, 17:25 pen blown Taylor not supporting weight. A huge surge from the comps most explosive offence, smothered by infringements. Perhaps including these not blown penalties (if they aren't already counted, I'm not sure) makes the penalty count more balanced? But more importantly, no talking to the captain? This was not week 1, these were not rookies. Three penalties in 40 seconds on the try line in the 78th minute would have a man in the bin. This had a bigger impact on the game than the missed forward pass IMO. Your thoughts? This is where the ARs/TMO need to support the on-field more, I know the on-field is trying to own the game ahead of WC rankings etc, but to what end.

[@Love1Monster]

28:21 watching it live I thought the Crusaders got away with a huge amount of flopping, sealing off, whatever it’s called now, when they had possession. It wasn’t penalised at all. Presume it’s still illegal.

[@HakatimeRugby]

Liam with the big calls! Well done brother. Get him a regular slot boys.

[@patkuruvakadua4657]

Thanks for the awesome super rugby cover. hopefully it will continue to the WC.including test matches prior to the wc From a crusaders fan in Fiji.

[@JimmyKip]

Agree with your thoughts on the refereeing, particularly James' point that refereeing is a team. The one problem I have is that we keep making moves to defer to the person in the middle even when they (and the ARs) have missed something obvious. The TMO is not allowed to call that forward pass, because a try wasn't scored within x phases of it happening. But the TMO is allowed to review the lineout offside purely because a try was scored. The distinction to me is too arbitrary and we need to allow the TMO to get involved and accept that with high def TV in our living rooms we will sometimes have a better view than the people on the field and use that technology to get the right decisions. That doesn't mean 2 minutes of slow motions and a committee; we should empower the TMO to make the call and have the on field referees accept it. Sometimes the balance will be wrong and they will get too involved, sometimes the TMO might make a mistake as well, but a forward pass like that is an easy thing to get right, Rugby just has decided that they won't allow the refereeing team to try.

[@timhayward6833]

Yes couldn’t agree more, this looks so inconsistent to most viewers along with the endless very technical penalties at the breakdown. For a whole season where the Chiefs win two over the Crusaders and clearly top the league, to then lose the Championship on back of a couple of dodgy or inconsistent calls doesn’t feel right. I like the overseas football model where the league is home and away to everyone, no playoffs. Then separate cups are used for playoff competitions. The way we have a short season that mixes these two things is messy and allows these situations.

[@JimmyKip]

@@timhayward6833 Please don't misconstrue what i'm saying; I think its pretty clear that the Chiefs lost because they weren't able to adapt to the referee and minimise their penalty count. And remember some of those penalties aren't even referee interpretation problems - eg high tackles, one of which was (post judiciary) incorrectly given yellow instead of red. The forward pass was pivotal, and it could have swung the game, but all teams know that the way Rugby is refereed you'll have a call or two like that go against you in a game, that's something you can't control. What the Chiefs should have been able to control was their activities around the breakdown, they just didn't get it right.

[@JimmyKip]

@@timhayward6833 Oh I love the league / cup idea on paper, but the truth is we're pretty close to the red line on the number of games that's safe to play as it is, there's just not really a feasible way to play the number of rugby games required to make that work.

[@timhayward6833]

@@JimmyKip Yep in that game you are right, the Chiefs largely shot themselves in the foot but...were still in it and those calls might've made a difference. So let the TMO adjudicate at any time. Over the three games the Chiefs were clearly better and that ends up counting for nothing, which feels crap which leads to the crowd frustration which is probably leading to people losing interest in the game. Also that every season the competition changes format, what teams are in it etc.

[@davidpeters3857]

Excellent content as always

[@michaelstevens1004]

Chiefs supporters reminds me of the bulls supporters just admit you lost and stop complaining about the ref because the chiefs should had a red card

[@k.o.t.h]

Why aren't the ref n officials being held more accountable for their decisions esp. in such a crucial game. Seems like their errors are brushed aside n all is forgiven by just a half-hearted admittence to their mistakes. Not condoning the threats they received but that is a direct result of their actions when they were so heavily penalizing offences but let a blatent forward pass go which led to a try which was the difference in the end. If players are penalized for every mistake they make on the field then the officials should be held accountable for theirs as well, esp. with the tmo and technological assistance they have at their disposal now. Them not being held to the same standard is why they receive such abuse. Similar to the corrupt judging in boxing, their mistakes rob the players of the results of their hard work, sweat n blood throughout the whole season.

[@mikescudder4621]

If we hold them accountable there won't be any refs left! Rugby is too complex... but a glaring forward pass like that was unacceptable, and that responsibility was probably more on the AR's than it was Ben but he's the one who cops it.

[@fatcraze216]

We need to see them in the Heineken Cup, adding an NZ Squad and a Aussie squad would be crazy awesome!

[@ChrisPerkins-i7h]

To the ref This final was edge of the seat till the last minute, the card's and penalties didn't stop the contest great job thanks for running further than all other player's and working harder to know the rules God bless refs

[@mikescudder4621]

Didn't stop the contest only because the Chiefs are a great side, but it did decide the game in the end.

[@ChrisPerkins-i7h]

@mikescudder4621 yes the chief's wouldn't stop foul play wouldn't listen to the ref wouldn't keep within the rules . Basically they didn't want to win , they just wanted to show that they are stronger and bigger. Check out the chief's try from the set peice a good forward pass on the 22 before emonie scores

[@andrewwebb3002]

How many tackles did Moanga miss? Stevenson should be an all black!

[@Marius_vanderLubbe]

Notice just before Cane was carded how Whitelock pushed him back to wait til he passed. Fucking brilliant.

[@avi8ordude]

First thing I noticed. He’s simply not respected as a leader.

[@mikescudder4621]

@@avi8ordude Rubbish, thats about players getting under each others skin. Cane wouldn´t have even noticed Sam because he was engaged with the ref.

[@davidpeters3857]

@@avi8ordudeKeep looking for your brain cells

[@Marius_vanderLubbe]

@@mikescudder4621 That's what I typed, avi.

[@ChrisPerkins-i7h]

Sam cane isn't a leader but was an excellent player and still can out tackle anyone I wish foster would actually let players use their skill in the position they are good at instead of rotate them every game and put half the team in wrong positions

[@robertmiller2173]

Ben Smith is the Best Full Back All Black in my life time and I am 68, Christian Cullen was next best!

[@patkuruvakadua4657]

I think Ben smith is the multi position back ever and he doesn't disappoint.

[@Damudean]

Cullen is my favorite Ab of all time. I didn’t really see much of Ben Smith

[@Badmansband]

Agreed

[@good_fats]

Couldn't agree more

[@michaelstk2817]

Reiko is a winger. His first instinct is to tuck the ball under one arm and go for the gap. 99% of his passes are offloads due to defences isolating him from his wingers or he dies with the ball. Defensively he relies on his speed rather than reading the situation. I’m not hating on him as I do see his potential as a world class midfielder but I think he has to change his mindset from me to we. Ben’s refereeing is exactly what you will get at the World Cup. If AB’s are not accurate and disciplined at the breakdown they will get carded off the field. Not to mention NZ’s desire to still tackle upright. ALB’s tackle will be instant red card at the World Cup.

[@mikescudder4621]

Ben wasn´t consistent. There was a passage of play, 1st half, where Crusaders gave away 4-5 penalties in a row, 3 in the same phase of play inside their 22 (only 1 of these penalties were blown because he gave advantage), Ben didn´t even give a warning. 1 minute later down the other end of the field, the first penalty resulted in a yellow card as the Chiefs had already been warned. Don´t even mention that forward pass so influential on the game! I don´t think Ben was terrible but basic reffing errors are still a blight on the game.

[@mikescudder4621]

At least it wasn´t Nic Berry in the final.

[@k.o.t.h]

Great analysis n povs from all including JG. Congrats to the saders n their legacy cemented, but imo the chiefs were the better side. They dominated the collision upfront n at the breakdown but as said, their discipline n yellows cost them the game.

[@markwairepo2871]

Thanks to Ben OKeefe....

[@simonmackle4323]

That Grey AllBlack jersey was terrible.. AB's should only be in Black ... or White when they need to .. Liam you did real well mate and good call about the Wallabies being the dark horse at the Cup - it just might be a little soon for them..

[@AcaciaSands]

Would like to see ABS focus on Defense, disapline, breakdown, low penalty count against us, creating high penalty count for us.

[@matgbx]

Lineout mauls need to be addressed though. They heavily favor the attacking team, and the fact that the team with the ball can rotate the maul and have half the pack peel off and essentially shepherd the ball carrier over the line is ridiculous

[@nehlogan]

Did Foster mispeak (because it didn't sound like it) or is just trying to cover up ?! Also interested in the comments re Reiko as every other analyst raises concerns particularly with his defence.

[@tcr4507]

It’s weird because rieko didn’t seem to fire many shots this season either side of the ball. Having said that, he made 3 absurdly good try saving tackles last year in the Irish series and end of year tour. Maybe the blues just don’t know how to get the best out of him at 13.

[@stealthpakfa]

Foster didn’t misspeak. He is changing the story after getting called out. Reiko isn’t a 13. His effectiveness is significantly diminished playing him at 13.

[@joep7584]

Fudge the Crusaders!!! 🤬🤬🤬

[@mickser101]

Still crying😢😢😢

[@michaelstevens1004]

You were your worst enemies and you should have got a red card that's a red card in world cup

[@alansmith7158]

ABs starting Bench Newell 1 de Groot Taukei'aho 2 Taylor Williams 3 Lomax Whitelock 4 Retallick Frizell 5 Barrett Roigard 6 Finau McKenzie 7 Savea McLeod 8 Jacobson 9 Smith 10 Mounga 11 Leicester 12 Barrett J 13 Ioane 14 Narawa 15 Jordan

[@TheWolfandreptile]

Not starting Whitelock is absolutely insane

[@alansmith7158]

@@TheWolfandreptile Only on the bench for the first game

[@TheWolfandreptile]

@@alansmith7158 you still start him, bring Barrett on early in the second half if you want to limit Whitelocks minutes.

[@mikescudder4621]

I had a real nice retro Warriors jersey that i sold on trademe about 15 years ago.... that was a mistake.

[@timhayward6833]

This rugby format of a round robin league followed by playoffs is rubbish. The Chiefs were clearly the League winners and beat the Crusaders twice but then lose the whole Championship due to a couple of key moments in the final. League and Playoffs are different things and should not be mixed as the mature football leagues overseas show us. If you are going to do this then the TMO needs to be allowed to intervene at any time.

[@tongsupavit]

🎉

[@avi8ordude]

10:30 answer just a nod of the head and move on?

[@TC-sm8rc]

Jack goodwho? Did he get selected in abs sqaud?

[@richardscanlan3419]

no.

[@TC-sm8rc]

@@richardscanlan3419 in my opinion he has so much potential but hasnt taken things to another level, he is a crusader though and razor will be coach next year so perhaps he will throw him a lifeline

[@ChrisPerkins-i7h]

It's not the most skilled players that win games its not talent it's right decisions its communication and its keeping to the rules Crusaders do not have the beat players but they have the best rugby information on winning

[@swisscloud4309]

@@TC-sm8rche’s going overseas so he won’t be eligible unless they change the eligibility rules

[@samterangi9990]

@@TC-sm8rc Jack was named in the all blacks XV so he's not completely out of the mix for this year. Tough to take things to another level when you have a run of injuries like Jack has had.

[@YallNotWhite_YourPINK]

The most overrated all black midfielder ever 😂

[@alansmith7158]

Are you talking about ALB

[@nimblegoat]

Maybe Henrys nephew Toeava ( a better outside back ) or our slowest SBW - who needed to be instructed by new ABs still in defense and where to stand . Goodhue is solid in defense - and pretty solid around

[@kevinmckay1955]

Again not a balanced view of the refs decisions. Between the forward pass and the Crusaders try the Chiefs cleared their line. But no comment on Jacobsen steal off Jordan at 21mins when his knees were clearly on ground prior. The Chiefs then score at 22 mins. That’s just rugby. Commentary needs to be more even handed about refs. The niggle in this case is because the Chiefs lost.

[@solethesis]

I just watched that, as soon as Jacobson hit he was in control of the ball.