Battlefield still has no competition...

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jackfrags

jackfrags

15 күн бұрын

Battlefield doesn't have many alternatives or direct competitors but why and for how much longer? Let's play the excellent Battlefield 5 and discuss. Leave a LIKE and a comment, thanks for watching.

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@illbeback2YT
@illbeback2YT 13 күн бұрын
Still mourning. BF3 and BF4 were the golden days.
@carlosthemandalor3650
@carlosthemandalor3650 13 күн бұрын
Bf1 is goat all day long
@thxmasge
@thxmasge 13 күн бұрын
@@carlosthemandalor3650not in my book tbh
@OnyxSilas
@OnyxSilas 13 күн бұрын
Bf1 bro. You forgot mfin BF1
@zachbruner481
@zachbruner481 13 күн бұрын
Bf3 will always be number 1
@crimelord90
@crimelord90 13 күн бұрын
Bf4 100% for me. I want my AEK baby
@InternetShark
@InternetShark 13 күн бұрын
I'm surprised Jack didn't bring up World War 3. Its a failure, but it attempted to do battlefield
@aboveaveragebayleaf9216
@aboveaveragebayleaf9216 13 күн бұрын
It was fun, but honestly a hassle to update with the peer to peer system. It tended to be pretty slow
@xmesaj2
@xmesaj2 13 күн бұрын
Wasted potential due to it's lack of identity. First they charged money for purchasing the beta, then after a year they made it free and yet again they are reworking it because they don't have idea what direction the game should be going, for the 3rd time or more... lost all hopes, too much crap - bugs, dead matchmaking, poor performance. Not even worth mentioning anymore when you got game like Battlebit around
@edyslavico3761
@edyslavico3761 13 күн бұрын
I played it and the game itself is good. Gunplay, vehicles, maps, everything. What killed it is poor management, marketing and that idiotic third party launcher.
@R-SXX
@R-SXX 13 күн бұрын
​@@edyslavico3761farm51 even sold the ip and game, I dont even know if farm is doing anything right now, hopefully the studio wont shut down
@haroldadams3951
@haroldadams3951 13 күн бұрын
What ever happened to BattleBit? I remember all the BF content creators drooling over that game for a few months and then the hype just went quiet…
@JUmayNOT
@JUmayNOT 13 күн бұрын
The fact that Jack can have such a detailed one-sided conversation while playing at such a level of concentration is astounding.
@Peanutbutterbutnotjelly
@Peanutbutterbutnotjelly 13 күн бұрын
It’s called easy plays
@trashpanda003
@trashpanda003 13 күн бұрын
He's been playing games for ages im sure its second nature now
@jamessutton2126
@jamessutton2126 13 күн бұрын
I think he's doing a voiceover and just pretending he is commentating live. The gameplay often cuts while he continues exactly what he was saying. Sorry to ruin the illusion.
@JUmayNOT
@JUmayNOT 13 күн бұрын
@@jamessutton2126 Very true, he could also be cutting in his actual game play voice over in between his explanations.
@dontplay9937
@dontplay9937 13 күн бұрын
@@jamessutton2126that’s the thing that separates good and bad players us good players can have a conversation with ease and still do better than you while focusing on
@gregorypegory1781
@gregorypegory1781 13 күн бұрын
Im an old guy, I remember BF2 special forces, night vsion, grappling hooks! Remember Bad company 2? The destruction! BF3 tank battles! Thanks for sharing.
@nnehila
@nnehila 13 күн бұрын
Yea that expansion blew my mind when it came out!
@marcbrockhoff
@marcbrockhoff 13 күн бұрын
@@nnehila What a nostalgia
@Olterior
@Olterior 12 күн бұрын
BF2 was a lifetime ago. It was no BS battlefield. Then BC2 destruction was just wow. Yeah we lost some features, but BF3 and BF4 brought some of it back. But by BF3 DICE started releasing broken messy games, that get fixed 2 years post launch just in time for DICE to abandon the game. Like BF2042 is just getting good now, and they are abandoning it. Go back and play BF5 now. Game is great. On release it was a mess. Same with BF1. People praise BF5 now, but on release it was a mess.
@ittapupu7406
@ittapupu7406 12 күн бұрын
@@Olterior BF1 was most certainly not a mess on release, it worked right out of box on both console and pc. They rest of what you said though, 100% agree.
@montanaslin5740
@montanaslin5740 12 күн бұрын
Yeah dude we are old too
@keithsmith7503
@keithsmith7503 13 күн бұрын
There is nothing like bf1! Visuals, real experimental rifles, the soundtracks, that over the top satisfactory headshot sound. Such a lovely game!
@chrisjohn7933
@chrisjohn7933 12 күн бұрын
Agreed mate. And they also went into historical detail regarding regiments, weapons and armory used. It was awesome.
@michaelrains64295
@michaelrains64295 12 күн бұрын
The last competent BF title.
@goufr3540
@goufr3540 11 күн бұрын
That was the last great BF game. Although as it is now, much like with COD. Both games have just fallen so far behind everything else lately that its probably time to retire them.
@silent_fungus
@silent_fungus 10 күн бұрын
I play BF1 almost everyday.
@keithsmith7503
@keithsmith7503 10 күн бұрын
@@silent_fungus have a hard time finding a game on pc on the weekday. Weekends I have better luck. Make sure to jump back in when a tubow hypes it up again.
@ohnaww
@ohnaww 13 күн бұрын
The first Homefront’s multiplayer had some Battlefield elements to it. Man, I miss it.
@isken6593
@isken6593 13 күн бұрын
And the shooting felt very unique compared to the classic shooters at the time. It was weird but also satisfying 😅 good times
@smokierandall2531
@smokierandall2531 13 күн бұрын
😢
@BrilliantBenGaming
@BrilliantBenGaming 13 күн бұрын
I remember immediately returning my copy to buy BF3 and play that with my friends because no one wanted to play Homefront. I did enjoy the multiplayer beta
@samtheman2144
@samtheman2144 13 күн бұрын
Underrated multiplayer. I loved the battle point system. Getting the attack helicopter was sick
@ConnSoIo
@ConnSoIo 13 күн бұрын
This game is so forgotten about
@AuryIris
@AuryIris 13 күн бұрын
Battlefield V has some really beautiful, colorful, inspiring graphics. So many different interesting maps, you can find many great detailes, it's almost a pity for it to be no longer existent, because it's just an Artwork. The gameplay is important and very well done, but also the historic feeling, the music, the sounds of explosions, planes, soldiers and even flies are so well done. You have not only soldiers but also vehicles, tanks, plaines, stationary weapons, so many to chose from. Gorgeous maps such as the Pacific, Provence, Arres, Rotterdam... It is also a great beginner game. At first, players are just in awe. For example, I have never played in my life a game with a controller or a what would you call a "serious" game till I was 23 yo, then I started playing Battlefield V. My bf introduced me to the "gaming" world. It was my first game, I practiced, I enjoyed it so much as a newcomer, I then played other games like COD, and now I am back still playing BFV 6 years later. It is calming, it is fun, I can go full playing sweaty or just chilling on the maps, I meet the same players on my servers in Europe, it comforts me, it is not too toxic, it amuses me so much, I love it.
@jordondeannon5501
@jordondeannon5501 13 күн бұрын
Wholesome. Also true!
@Khofax
@Khofax 13 күн бұрын
If you haven’t played it yet BF1 is also more than worth it and delivers an even greater cinematic experience than BFV in my opinion. Anyhow enjoy
@AuryIris
@AuryIris 13 күн бұрын
@@Khofax I have and I love it! Thank you none the less! I can’t and won’t choose which is better, I enjoy wholeheartedly both games, depwnding on the mood. Battlefield 1 is really awesome
@ZIZOUPINDIS
@ZIZOUPINDIS 12 күн бұрын
You play on Xbox ?
@haynes966
@haynes966 12 күн бұрын
yeah bfv is very vibrant and pretty where as bf1 I feel captures war better as the lighting and colors are more grim and dark, both look very good though
@lynxproductions
@lynxproductions 13 күн бұрын
Battlebit was the closest one in my opinion.
@AoGbeverage16
@AoGbeverage16 13 күн бұрын
Still waiting for it to hit consoles.. Has so much potential
@lpk822
@lpk822 13 күн бұрын
yeah agreed, real shame it died tho
@GuitarooMan93
@GuitarooMan93 13 күн бұрын
Except for immersion
@RichSmithson
@RichSmithson 13 күн бұрын
@@lpk822the devs killed it. Wouldn’t listen to feedback and ideas the fan base had were shut down constantly by that 1 dev who thought he knew better.
@SHOOTER3258
@SHOOTER3258 13 күн бұрын
What happen to that game?
@TYSL
@TYSL 13 күн бұрын
I hated Battlefield 1942 for such a longtime when it came out. It was ruining our Friday nights post-work MP sesh. Wolfenstien was still fresh at that point, with a healthy player base, delivering that Q3-paced shooter gameplay (but with the MP40 instead of the Railgun). But. Everyone wanted to play this Battlefield-thing, which looked sluggish in comparison. And why did it need vehicles? “That’s not what a shooter is all about…”. Then one evening I bit the bullet and stepped up to try it: instant fan for life. When you switch off a game on your machine but you can’t switch it off in your head; that’s the mark of a very special title. How many of us have gone to bed (as it’s getting light outside) still replaying moments from that evenings BF session. When BF works it’s lightning in a bottle.
@llllllllllllllllllllllIlI
@llllllllllllllllllllllIlI 13 күн бұрын
TLDR
@simple_simon
@simple_simon 12 күн бұрын
Enemy territory is one of my favourite games ever played. "firing for effect!"
@a0000a1234
@a0000a1234 12 күн бұрын
@@llllllllllllllllllllllIlI😂
@nicholasfaber9695
@nicholasfaber9695 12 күн бұрын
@@llllllllllllllllllllllIlIwasnt even that long bro
@Shortay1325
@Shortay1325 12 күн бұрын
This was me with BF2. I made really good friends with a group of guys on BF2 back in 2009. We still talk regularly to this day and some of us have met each other in person. We would all stay up super late during the summer off school playing BF2 and various BF2 mods like Sandbox. Those were the days! Good times.
@yakamoa177
@yakamoa177 13 күн бұрын
Surprised no ones done a Warhammer 40k BF type game. That would be awesome
@benjaminmajor5144
@benjaminmajor5144 13 күн бұрын
THANK YOU, I've been saying this on BF videos for ages a HD remake of BATTLEFIELD VIETNAM or BATTLEFIELD 40K glad I'm not the only one
@Fhyrne
@Fhyrne 13 күн бұрын
Waaaaaagh!
@llllllllllllllllllllllIlI
@llllllllllllllllllllllIlI 13 күн бұрын
No it wouldn't be
@Fhyrne
@Fhyrne 13 күн бұрын
​@@llllllllllllllllllllllIlI heretic
@llllllllllllllllllllllIlI
@llllllllllllllllllllllIlI 13 күн бұрын
Battlefield Vietnam would be a good remake.
@LDacic
@LDacic 13 күн бұрын
Jack casually carrying his entire team while chatting with us. Brilliant. Tbf, the game running that smooth on those settings does help. Cheers
@dongyschlontong-ck5xg
@dongyschlontong-ck5xg 12 күн бұрын
It's edited to look that way. He does a voiceover.
@kaustie
@kaustie 12 күн бұрын
@@dongyschlontong-ck5xg It's not voiceover bro, there are many parts of the video that he talks about the gameplay itself
@AcerProRokerInc
@AcerProRokerInc 11 күн бұрын
It's a voice over 😂 "It's not because he talks about gameplay" 🤦🤦🤦🤦
@kaustie
@kaustie 11 күн бұрын
@@AcerProRokerInc gameplay itself, talking about what he was doing at the moment and the reactions he had 😮‍💨
@CitizenKang
@CitizenKang 13 күн бұрын
LOL right before you destroyed the statue, I thought to myself "He should try to destroy that statue."
@jackfrags
@jackfrags 13 күн бұрын
mission success!
@alexmeyburgh9668
@alexmeyburgh9668 13 күн бұрын
From South Africa, loving BFV. Unfortunately it's always 120ms for me to play on Singapore servers 😢. Loving it more than 2042 right now! Love the content Jack!
@NerdisticTouch
@NerdisticTouch 10 күн бұрын
BROOOOOOOO!!!!!! i still jump on from time to time on Bf1 and i play EU servers ... no one plays on the SA ones ...
@kaz_araya7960
@kaz_araya7960 6 күн бұрын
I play on SG servers and I'm in Malaysia (right next to SG) and it's dead. I waited in an empty lobby for 15 minutes and only one guy joined, who then Immediately left. Man i wish this game was so much more popular in Asia
@JackOfBlackPhoenix
@JackOfBlackPhoenix 13 күн бұрын
BattleBit and World War 3 were the closest, shame their potential was killed by their own devs (then again, pretty much same happened with Battlefield itself)
@5at5una
@5at5una 13 күн бұрын
yeah WW3 got the feeling of BF4 with BF5 movement style and squad call in.. just no destruction but they just cant get the server and player on it
@Olterior
@Olterior 12 күн бұрын
@@5at5una Whilst the destruction is super cool, I think at the moment the tech just can't provide us large scale destruction without compromising on gameplay. If they were to do a 24/32 player BF game like they did BC2 I think the quality of gameplay would be better and destruction could be turned up. With 64+ players it's better to have no destruction and use those resources in making sure the netcode is solid.
@abstractminds1433
@abstractminds1433 13 күн бұрын
It's crazy just how long BF5 has stayed relevant! What a great game.
@NRobbi42
@NRobbi42 13 күн бұрын
Definitely overhated when it came out, and it only got better. Apparently people think "overhated" = great
@badass6300
@badass6300 13 күн бұрын
@@NRobbi42 Not overhated at launch, it came out broken and unfinished, while trying to change history. Now it's great.
@beyahoyo
@beyahoyo 13 күн бұрын
I'm on bfv a couple hours every day still love it
@aapferb694
@aapferb694 13 күн бұрын
​@@badass6300 "Trying to change history" lol found one
@vhscopyofseinfeld
@vhscopyofseinfeld 13 күн бұрын
@@NRobbi42what?? It was a disaster for years
@petariliev110
@petariliev110 9 күн бұрын
BF5 needs 2 Eastern Front maps, what an underlooked game
@Nomadic2b34u-bt4zs
@Nomadic2b34u-bt4zs 13 күн бұрын
Give us the CTE back with map editor. If dice can't be bothered to make maps, the community will, I'd like to see a procedurally generated city map too.
@TheoriginalBMT
@TheoriginalBMT 12 күн бұрын
It's a missed opportunity for DICE to not have a map editor. It allows a community to engage and enhance.
@Seanmmvi
@Seanmmvi 13 күн бұрын
BFV has been excellent... I haven't left it. I would pay $100 for a 10 map expansion pack for BFV - along with new weapons and vehicles.
@skalmanidealman
@skalmanidealman 13 күн бұрын
Yes that would be so fun! Don't even need new weapons just new maps. Would be easy money for EA
@TheAAminat
@TheAAminat 13 күн бұрын
same !!!!
@leviwinkelmann9110
@leviwinkelmann9110 13 күн бұрын
that would be a dream
@SB-in8rw
@SB-in8rw 13 күн бұрын
Same but for BF 1
@IsraelSocial
@IsraelSocial 12 күн бұрын
I wish bf5 had 120+ players and delete the limits on conquer! Is so annoying when you die after cross the line
@ywsx6489
@ywsx6489 13 күн бұрын
I was there Jack... 3000 years ago when BF1942 released... i was immediately hooked. i loved being just a normal soldier in a big battle.
@bgorley
@bgorley 13 күн бұрын
There’s nothing better. It’s hands down my favorite game franchise for all the reasons you listed. The immersion, the variety maps, vehicles, aircrafts, ships, boats, watercraft, class load-outs, the music, the game play, the gun play, the necessary team play, and last but not least the destruction. Seeing the next best version of such a game on a modern engine could take the top spot in FPS gaming for the next decade if done right.
@_.JohnWick._
@_.JohnWick._ 12 күн бұрын
@satis4
@satis4 11 күн бұрын
Try squad, if u dont mind realism
@YodaGoat44
@YodaGoat44 13 күн бұрын
Imagine Dice spending a year making updates for all their old games. Maps, weapons, classes, etc
@truthseeker9454
@truthseeker9454 13 күн бұрын
I'll wager it would win back many disaffected players.
@connorbranscombe6819
@connorbranscombe6819 13 күн бұрын
@@truthseeker9454genuinely doubt it, although I’d like to see it, but given the vitriol in this community most would probably find an excuse to get mad about it.
@michaelrains64295
@michaelrains64295 12 күн бұрын
I’d pay for BF1 dlc. Nothing will make me play any newer BF games.
@truthseeker9454
@truthseeker9454 10 күн бұрын
@@connorbranscombe6819 I hear you. It's sad, really. I played games like MOHAA, SH and BT many years ago. Those were some of the best times I've ever had online. Those games had bugs and were vulnerable to cheats, but the player community banded together to laugh about the bugs and ban the cheaters. These more modern games have stunning graphics and some amazing features, but it seems players complain about *everything.* It's either too much this or not enough that. I'd honestly hate to have the job of trying to please them. I just know I'm done with chasing specs and always having to buy more expensive hardware to play the latest games. I think there are a lot of others who feel that way, too -- hence the large number of players still playing BF 1 and BF V. I'm among them. I'd pay for new content for those games as long as my computer can run them; I think others might as well. Peace, brother!
@whogg0521
@whogg0521 13 күн бұрын
I love battlefield, even with its flaws, since BC2 and watching your vids, Level cap, etc. I love the immersion, even when not playing well. Side note..I will never NOT be amazed how you play so well and do commentary at the same time.
@fmoll8748
@fmoll8748 12 күн бұрын
nice video. as a nowadays very casual gamer, i don't have the insights into the more detailed gameplay mechanics or history of a game. quite interesting to hear an "experienced" view on modern gaming and thoughts on why the industry is how it is atm.
@josenorberto9787
@josenorberto9787 13 күн бұрын
I think there is no "competition" because the market is already filled with BF itself, people don't feel the need to play something that is almost BF but is not BF. Jack mentioned many examples of games that have incorporated the BF style of gameplay with their own "thing": oh this is Star Wars BF; oh this is Roblox BF; oh this is milsim BF, etc. Even the spot for "World War I/II BF" is filled (very well btw) by BF itself. To this day (even with BF2042) EA still does the BF formula well enough to make it relevant. Maybe if in the next iterations of BF EA and Dice keep making mistakes, someone else will make a decent game that looks basically exactly like the BF that we know today and then we'll have real competition for BF's spot in the market.
@Olterior
@Olterior 12 күн бұрын
Also with how often they release new games, graphically the 2/3 most recent games almost always look almost as good as the most recent game. Case and point BF1, BF5 and BF2042 look very similar graphically. So If I want my BF fix in a WW2 setting or WW1 setting, I already have Battlefield games with decent populations to play with. Problem is that most BF players are arcade shooter players first, so stuff like Squad are too different from core gameplay of BF. Same reason why COD and Counter-strike are both FPS shooters, but have wildly different playerbases. I hate what EA has done with DICE and Battlefield, but it works for them. Each BF gets bad reviews on launch, then they work on fixing the game, then EA tells them to go make new game yesterday.
@rokker333
@rokker333 12 күн бұрын
I agree. And I am saying for a long time now, the BF crowd seems to die out. I guess younger players are no longer that much attracted to BF mechanics. That hurts sales and revenue compared to other AAA games. And it is a shame. BF evolved 25 years ago and back then there was at least a few similar games. E.g. Enemy Territory (RTCW ET). I played this about till 2005 and switched then to BF BC2.
@TGFGamesta
@TGFGamesta 12 күн бұрын
This is a really good point well made. However, to play devils advocate for a minute - Healthy competition is how this specific genre will flourish. If one company/dev has the monopoly, you will see lack of effort because no one is even in the same league. It is like playing Poker with yourself lol. My view is that a big dev needs to go into direct competition with them to stop EA getting complacent. I also think that they have over complicated the mechanics for the past 2, trying to concentrate on visuals over everything else. This is just my view though, for what it is worth. I am yearning for a battlefield with gunplay & vehicles from BF4, map design from BF3 and visuals from BF1. No specialists, no 2 clips before going to an ammo dump (That's what engineers are for), no bugs at launch & just a fun sandbox game.
@evanhansen2354
@evanhansen2354 13 күн бұрын
I think it does not have a ton of competition is because it has a grip on a lot of the fans of the genre with the whole combined arms thing. They also do it relatively well. This is complete speculation, but I think that they don't want to try because they think they will fail? I do think that Battle.bit did the gameplay justice though!
@neonicecube908
@neonicecube908 12 күн бұрын
Rising Storm 2 has alot of things that make bf games great, it does have large maps, squads, classes and helicopters too.
@pain7958
@pain7958 13 күн бұрын
Enlisted is another alternative as long as you count the bots for it's large scale warfare. It's only 10v10, but each player can have 9 controllable soldiers each.
@edyslavico3761
@edyslavico3761 13 күн бұрын
Unfortunately the grind is comically long. It's a worse version than war thunder and that's saying something.
@Shortay1325
@Shortay1325 12 күн бұрын
I gave Enlisted a chance and it was quite fun. However, I was getting sick of the huge grind feeling. As soon as you thought you were going somewhere, you had to start grinding from scratch yet again with another side. I do have to say it is a fun take where you can control a squad online. Just so dang grindy.
@ScottDincorn
@ScottDincorn 13 күн бұрын
Damn, what an amazing map you were playing on. It has so many different vibes and settings and flows really nice. Wild how good this game still looks 🤯
@CitizenKang
@CitizenKang 13 күн бұрын
I finally deleted BF2042 from my PS5. The new map is uninspired. I'm re-downloading BFV now.
@KontrolStyle
@KontrolStyle 12 күн бұрын
sad to see you go, have fun bfv o7
@Reynoldz182
@Reynoldz182 10 күн бұрын
That's exactly what I did. I BF1 and BF5 are still kickin.
@dhruvster10
@dhruvster10 5 күн бұрын
Smart choice. 2042 is a disgrace to the franchise
@homepie6046
@homepie6046 13 күн бұрын
Good to see you back, Jack.
@cornejonando
@cornejonando 12 күн бұрын
The Harry Potter under the stairs reference is great, Jack. That's why I watch your content, you always have a reference to popular culture. In my opinion the commentary you do is underrated. Keep it coming I'm all for it.
@Eeveefall
@Eeveefall 13 күн бұрын
I think the simple reason Battlefield doesn't get any competition is because it doesn't make enough money as hero shooters or simpler shooter games. Most FPS games seem to have a heavy emphasis on lootboxes and cosmetics and make a stupid amount of money of them, while being more simple to make gameplay wise (Overwatch, Valorant, COD, etc.) Theres a lot going on in a BF game so I figure its hard to design servers that handle it all, especially given the graphical fidelity. I imagine that's why Battlebit can do it with 200+ players. And tbh, I feel like if another big publisher tried it, it would be too much of a risk since they would try to keep costs low and still manage to be worse than older BFs. Maybe, idk
@KontrolStyle
@KontrolStyle 12 күн бұрын
You nailed it, "too much risk" vs how much money it costs to make vs how much money they HAVE to make. cheers
@roguesquadron6963
@roguesquadron6963 12 күн бұрын
It’s amazing how nonchalantly you can decimate a team whilst talking about games and such. Gg’s!
@motiv8j
@motiv8j 13 күн бұрын
I love bf5. It was the best squad game with your mates, without the sweat of sbmm. Sniping and tank busting was so much fun. I’m a console player and it looks like Helldivers has that same squad/mates feel?
@Devinn504
@Devinn504 9 күн бұрын
Nah bf3/bf4
@diesel581
@diesel581 11 күн бұрын
Love the video as always! Still wish you showed the ending K/D. :( Since you're amazing as always it'd be like 50-5. Haha
@kevingenthe2629
@kevingenthe2629 13 күн бұрын
You mentioned Quake and Unreal Tournament towards the end, and I've been wondering recently about what happened to the arena shooter genre, as I never really got to experience it and feel like I would really enjoy those kinds of games. I'd love to hear your thoughts on that topic as well.
@SceneArtisan
@SceneArtisan 13 күн бұрын
Imagine the return of arena shooters! Boo yaa!
@joshallen-hallam2838
@joshallen-hallam2838 13 күн бұрын
I still love Halo for example but one thing jack didn't touch so much on and off subject slightly is sandbox arena shooters. Man they're so fun and I miss the old school unreal tournament / quake / halo madness. Nonetheless BF is still king
@TheoriginalBMT
@TheoriginalBMT 12 күн бұрын
He had talked about it in a video. Not sure which one. I would consider Halo a modern version of an arena shooter. But it is very different than quake and unreal with pacing
@KontrolStyle
@KontrolStyle 12 күн бұрын
the 30 year olds want 5v5 cs like, or war like shooters they can't handle the quake shooters. It's just my take, they get bored of the die/respawn/die type game play but can do that if they are drinking water / food in a dayz type game -- weird huh? arena shooters are dead and most of us 'boomers' are sad about it, but what can you do? gotta just join the newer type of gamer and deal with it (hence why i forced myself to learn bf2042 / bb / cod (the horror) type games.
@jesse76th96
@jesse76th96 12 күн бұрын
Lawbreakers happened
@dadavinci
@dadavinci 13 күн бұрын
We need a full scale Battlebits...or atleast a console port. A series like Hell Let Loose can thrive in different timelines because they have a solid foundation as is. But that's committing to a more sim-shooter type game.
@daylightdies7194
@daylightdies7194 13 күн бұрын
The only thing I have against that is pc would then be ignored and no consideration to how any changes would impact pc players like nerfs and things
@Drewww71
@Drewww71 12 күн бұрын
Didn't hear a word you said :) Was enthralled in your game play! I wish I could be that good.
@nnehila
@nnehila 13 күн бұрын
Been playing so much battlebit... Really looking forward to their big update coming soon
@GS-vb3zn
@GS-vb3zn 13 күн бұрын
2042 has competition because it’s pretty mid. But, yah, BFV (and BF1) have no equal.
@snarl3027
@snarl3027 13 күн бұрын
You’re 100% right! BF4 was the best game ever made.
@StoneCorazon
@StoneCorazon 13 күн бұрын
yeah but it really doesnt
@fxthePunisher
@fxthePunisher 13 күн бұрын
Where??
@solid5502
@solid5502 13 күн бұрын
Mid?
@jesse76th96
@jesse76th96 12 күн бұрын
@@snarl3027 BF3 was better overall, BF4 had the better mechanics but worse maps
@shgdrums
@shgdrums 12 күн бұрын
I would Love Jack's PC set up his videos always look sooooooo crisp an clean! Definitely one of my favourite content creator's 👌
@snowball7829
@snowball7829 12 күн бұрын
Special type of guys can stroll around, taking on squads alone, while chatting about whats on their mind in a hectic game like Battlefield. Im so glad I found this video, I did not know about a lot of these other games like Battlefield
@whiskeyjuliet
@whiskeyjuliet 13 күн бұрын
It was tried at one point with the game Frontlines: Fuel of War and I don't think most people ever even heard of it and this was 2008 right between 2142 and BC2. 🤷‍♂
@benrockwell1503
@benrockwell1503 13 күн бұрын
I was in the Beta for that game. It had potential but was kind of stillborn. It was released in a very basic state and pretty much abandoned as the studio that made it (Kaos) moved on to Homefront. As a side note, many of the developers at Kaos previously worked on the Desert Combat mode for 1942 that inspired BF2.
@TheoriginalBMT
@TheoriginalBMT 12 күн бұрын
It was interesting. Underwhelming at times, but I still played it a bunch.
@Tailored_Creations
@Tailored_Creations 13 күн бұрын
Anyone remember M.A.G ? Either 128 or 256 multiplayer maps back in ps3 days.
@Retrofire-47
@Retrofire-47 13 күн бұрын
Yup! loved it like so many great games, forsaken by time
@Dragonfury3000
@Dragonfury3000 13 күн бұрын
Shame it never got a follow up
@lagfx9
@lagfx9 13 күн бұрын
Oh man flying the apache in Desert Combat was very hard in 1942, but extremely satisfying. modding for Battlefield back then was great.
@nedfo72
@nedfo72 13 күн бұрын
I would put ww3 in the list, but still isn't the same for sure
@christopherstone4336
@christopherstone4336 12 күн бұрын
WW3 will never get off the ground. Devs really kinda fucked it on its launch sadly. They should have moved it to console when it had the hype.
@evandierker2272
@evandierker2272 13 күн бұрын
Play Easy red 2! In all honesty the vibe is more similar to OG battlefront, and the graphics arent great, but the game is fantastic. And the kid making it has made massive strides in the time ive had the game. Theres been several free dlc with tons of maps.
@corndogfilms
@corndogfilms 13 күн бұрын
I was thinking the same thing got the game on xbox and have been having an absolute blast hope more people check it out
@PtJones
@PtJones 12 күн бұрын
Was about to mention this title until I saw your comment. Def something to checkout. Basically a budget-friendly bf game with full crossplay support!
@FryCook87
@FryCook87 11 күн бұрын
that game is fucking terrible
@corndogfilms
@corndogfilms 11 күн бұрын
@@FryCook87 who hurt you man
@FryCook87
@FryCook87 11 күн бұрын
@@corndogfilms im being serious i played the thing with a friend and it was unbearable
@Squalldim
@Squalldim 13 күн бұрын
I remember one game when I was a kid : Wolfenstein enemy territory. It was pure joy to play it. Very similar to the rush mode, more objectives turned game, but with classes and so on
@Wushiemufu
@Wushiemufu 13 күн бұрын
Great question, I think it comes down to development difficulty and time investment getting all the features working together in a combined arms focused game. Like the flying just does not feel quite right in 2042 vs bf4 and everyone noticed. When all the features don't mesh well it really breaks the immersion. It is rare for a single game dev studio to have the engine experience to iterate all those different features with destruction and an engine capable of handling all the vehicle mechanics/physics. It is like 3 games in one but each game is harder to make because it has to work with all the others. I imagine being the project manager for such a team would be very difficult to say the least, whatever the case I hope more great combined arms games with destruction come out and I would love to see new dev teams try to create games like this.
@connornorton3552
@connornorton3552 13 күн бұрын
Enlisted is among the list of games like battlefield
@christianrasmussen6759
@christianrasmussen6759 13 күн бұрын
love that game
@WhatsUp-fe8jc
@WhatsUp-fe8jc 13 күн бұрын
🗑️
@wololo10
@wololo10 13 күн бұрын
There's battlebit, proximity chat is so much fun
@raptonsoul2557
@raptonsoul2557 13 күн бұрын
Sad that it’s basically dead outside of North America
@Dragonfury3000
@Dragonfury3000 13 күн бұрын
It needs a console release
@Swaguley
@Swaguley 13 күн бұрын
Dude I agree. I think if the next Battlefield incorporates the gunplay, proximity chat, and other features from Battlebit, it could be very successful.
@JesusGarcia-re7dw
@JesusGarcia-re7dw 13 күн бұрын
I love that project reality got a shout out. Still play it till this day and still one of the most cinematic and co-operative experience I have ever had.
@onEmEmbErstudios
@onEmEmbErstudios 4 күн бұрын
Hello Jack, long fan, love your contents! How's the hacker problem in BFV and BF4? I want to jump back to BFV but I heard there're so many hackers
@vondoomgaming1224
@vondoomgaming1224 13 күн бұрын
WW3 was a good battlefield style game, until they released it on Free-2-Play, changing the movement, sound (which was |EPIC) and gunplay, also the colur palette was enlivened which ruined the bleak atmosphere
@nedfo72
@nedfo72 13 күн бұрын
Yup, game had potential, but ultimately fell pretty flat
@swancman
@swancman 13 күн бұрын
Hell Let Loose is my go to game. Haven't touched a Battlefield game in the last two years.
@solid5502
@solid5502 13 күн бұрын
That game is amazing
@Dragonfury3000
@Dragonfury3000 13 күн бұрын
I think that game is best for those that already played a ton of BF. I rather have a more casual game like cod or bf just to chill tbh
@indiana_bones5583
@indiana_bones5583 11 күн бұрын
Haven’t played any other shooter after I picked up HLL
@rpb1310
@rpb1310 12 күн бұрын
Nothing has come close to them early planetside 2 years. Some insane battles to be a part of that i will always remember.
@cowcrapper
@cowcrapper 13 күн бұрын
You ever try Starsiege Tribes back in the day? there's a new one that's supposed to come out or is already out?
@B-U-T-C-H-E-R
@B-U-T-C-H-E-R 13 күн бұрын
BFV was way underrated. I never understood the hate, i loved it the whole time,it has the best movement of all battlefield games, and its better than any COD in the last couple handfuls of years
@MrDelgado559
@MrDelgado559 13 күн бұрын
Because of the woke propaganda BS with there being female soldiers in WW2
@fxthePunisher
@fxthePunisher 13 күн бұрын
It came after bf1 people were sick from ww and it had many issues they wanted to put woke propaganda in it but then they fixed it and abandoned it to develop battleshit 2042 Angel does it again
@fxthePunisher
@fxthePunisher 13 күн бұрын
I really have enjoyed it too specially the Fliegerfaust to ruin a pilots day 😂
@benrockwell1503
@benrockwell1503 13 күн бұрын
It's a pretty good game now, but people were frustrated with how the live service aspects of the game rolled out. There was very little content and the devs kept rebalancing things, creating massive swings in how the game played. Then Dice pulled the plug out very quickly just as the game started to find its footing.
@B-U-T-C-H-E-R
@B-U-T-C-H-E-R 12 күн бұрын
@@benrockwell1503 I remember they made one big balance pass, and then reverted it. I didn't remember too much after
@tomwest1382
@tomwest1382 13 күн бұрын
Hell Let Loose is the go to ‘Battlefield’ style game right now. The best battlefield moments are from squad play, and HLL amplifies that on a large scale
@ATGbandit
@ATGbandit 13 күн бұрын
I love HLL. But it's not a BF competitor due to the fact that it's more of a Mil Sim. Completely different feels.
@Am_Yisrael_Chai_7
@Am_Yisrael_Chai_7 11 күн бұрын
Not even close to BfV
@Malabaz001
@Malabaz001 13 күн бұрын
Hey Jack gerat vid mate keep it up!
@8lue17
@8lue17 13 күн бұрын
I play this game so much that I always crave a new set of maps. I wish it had more content. I agree with Jack, there's just nothing as good as this
@stylintylin77
@stylintylin77 13 күн бұрын
Battlebit is my vote. The graphics dont mean too much if ur still having fun
@christopherhendren117
@christopherhendren117 13 күн бұрын
Battlefield: GI Joe, cell-shaded graphics, Joes VS Cobras.
@FelipeRubens
@FelipeRubens 13 күн бұрын
I believe the hardest thing to do in games like this is making a large scaled map and making it balanced for the players. Also, having a lot of players together, with explosions and all, is hard to optimize on certain hardwares.
@afyyy9086
@afyyy9086 12 күн бұрын
i wanted to get bf2042 but i don't have a good pc to run bfv smooth even so i thought i will just wait maybe i will upgrade my pc and then try them to have good experience Games like battlefield are hard to find i still play Bf4 bf1 and hardlines sometimes not bfv alot cuz pc lag but i am excited to see how the next bf game be i hope its bf4 and 3 combined be a dream come true also i love watching your videos your game looks really good and all those graphics and then + whatever you talk about i like hearing so its really good i enjoy it alot
@snaggyak
@snaggyak 13 күн бұрын
BV5 one of the greatest Battlefield games
@Greaseball_gamer
@Greaseball_gamer 13 күн бұрын
Battlebit is a better battlefield ?
@VictorBE
@VictorBE 13 күн бұрын
Nahhh
@sanderdegroot6227
@sanderdegroot6227 12 күн бұрын
This game was awesome, still sort of is - want to go back to it. This map in particular (coming from Rotterdam) was such a treasure
@wilson2kmax
@wilson2kmax 12 күн бұрын
Hi Jack, In response to your question/video. In my opinion I feel Dice have such a great game engine and have been using and upgrading it for a very long time. I don't feel any other game engine could produce anything near the same experience. Ultimately I believe its the engine they use. Love your content thankyou for taking time to create. 👍
@Shargon25
@Shargon25 13 күн бұрын
I LOVE YOU JACK! PLEASE MARRY ME!!! 💍
@legendrogue237
@legendrogue237 13 күн бұрын
HOW DARE YOU.......I'll be his second wife
@yaraelpoof7242
@yaraelpoof7242 13 күн бұрын
Another problem is that a large number of games you mentioned are pc exclusive so there are even more limited options on console
@BleedingUranium
@BleedingUranium 12 күн бұрын
In addition to being an excellent commentary, the gameplay itself here is such a perfect showcase of Battlefield being Battlefield. :)
@garywright4510
@garywright4510 12 күн бұрын
I don't think the finals gets enough love for exactly what it is. However I take your point that a domination style game mode would be sick though, just tricky imagining how weapons and classes can be balanced within the main game modes. Maybe 4 teams of 5 fighting over 3 objectives would work
@taldavis119
@taldavis119 13 күн бұрын
This video had the same vibes as the guy who makes the train video, just instead of running around looking at trains you’re just mowing people down 😂
@RunninBearPoo
@RunninBearPoo 12 күн бұрын
1942 and bf3 and bf4 were so fun and kept me engaged
@TonyGunz916
@TonyGunz916 13 күн бұрын
How are you finding matches? I can never find a match in this game. Haven’t tried in a few months, but I’ve tried multiple times.
@Darthstevo05
@Darthstevo05 10 күн бұрын
Jack u should play bf4 soon! Been loving playing it again.
@KosherBeycon
@KosherBeycon 13 күн бұрын
I believe that in today's society, many individuals have developed a lack of patience and a desire for quick solutions. This, when combined with economic pressures and investor expectations, can create a negative situation. Rather than rushing to complete tasks, it is important to take the time to do things properly and thoroughly, instead of settling for a half-hearted attempt. Sometimes, the simplest solutions are the best. I mean, they don't need to reinvent the wheel, just take some proper time with it. That's my thoughts on it :). Thanks for the great content :)
@lucasceccattolcc
@lucasceccattolcc 13 күн бұрын
red orchestra 2 heroes of stalingrad is a good game, one of my favorites, a shame it isnt as popular as these other games
@ZakSkis
@ZakSkis 13 күн бұрын
First time long time, love this kind of content would love to see more gaming discussions/ramblings Jack, cheers 🫡
@xBestAlex
@xBestAlex 9 күн бұрын
I doubted bf1 at first but it was golden🔥🔥. I still love bf3&4
@Tomofdahook17
@Tomofdahook17 13 күн бұрын
You should try 2042 Rapid Strike. It removes the specialist gadgets and the guns feels a lot more balanced. It’s only against bots (though up to 68 players can join) but it’s so much fun!
@Koyague
@Koyague 13 күн бұрын
I’m just happy I was playing in the good ole times bf3,bf4 and bf1
@DanielKlauw
@DanielKlauw 8 күн бұрын
I mean there is the Arma Franchise. King of the hill back in the day was somewhat close with combined arms and was able to do 100+ people per match. not the same feel though with levellution or the overall pace of battlefield but i do have alot of good memories of being a transport pilot and flying into the AO while dodging enemy fire
@HelveticaBold1
@HelveticaBold1 12 күн бұрын
Is there RT reflections on Jack's gun? I expect a major upgrade to Frostbite for the next game.
@Justincrediblebrah
@Justincrediblebrah 12 күн бұрын
check out Delta Force: Black Hawk Down, released 2003 and i still play it, the gameplay mechanics are insane for an old game with bullet drop/distance, classes and its multiplayer.
@Keggler
@Keggler 13 күн бұрын
I'm surprised there hasn't been a GI Joe or Transformers game similar to battlefield. both feel like they'd be able to cover the variety and provide unique experiences
@Yee20234
@Yee20234 8 күн бұрын
Its sad that no one mentions Isonzo. I had so many experiences there that i think many people would describe as "battlefield-moments" and i still play it regularly.
@hardsleaz3954
@hardsleaz3954 12 күн бұрын
Would love to see you play some more battlebit when the new update drops Jack
@ninety851
@ninety851 13 күн бұрын
One game that is slept on is Polygon its free and its Battlefield/Call of duty mix and you can customize weapons and such. And there is maps from BF and other games. give it a try its fun
@jeremyxm6587
@jeremyxm6587 13 күн бұрын
The biggest things that are hard to replicate has to be the visual fidelity combined with the destruction capabilities. Most indie games were based on engines that don't handle destruction very well like Unity. Dice definitely has proprietary systems that handled destruction very well up until 2042. That and a lot of developers want to try and set themselves apart from Battlefield. Red Orchestra 2 was pretty close minus the destruction elements and tried to balance arcade and milsim. I keep hoping with the voxel based advancements that Dice might take more advantage of more dynamic destruction. Destructible environments are super hard to simulate and optimize with the polygons they create. I used to try to make maps for Halflife 2: Deathmatch back in the day and that on it's own wasn't the easiest to optimize. That and the war eras to focus on have been done so much that it's hard to create interest and excitement these days, which has been a problem for a while. Trying to touch a more modern era and compete with BF3 and BF4 would be an extremely hard sell comparison wise.
@YoungBottleCap
@YoungBottleCap 13 күн бұрын
the thing about like hell let loose and squad is that is def more hardcore. and sure theres vehicles but they REQUIRE teamwork. not really amphibious or air combat tho
@Shazbot277
@Shazbot277 12 күн бұрын
Desert Combat Mod!!, I think I was one of the last people to continue playing that mod
@fataldreams2
@fataldreams2 10 күн бұрын
I still play BF1. Just the WW I emersion is unreal to this day
@GhostSlayer81
@GhostSlayer81 13 күн бұрын
People tried to kill this franchise just to let make them get better. Instead, the next battlefield flows more and more .. Battlefield has a huge engine, and Dice must reach to its limits so it can get near the recent COD and other tactical FPS Games that emphasize realism . But I really doubt it because Battlefield has this kinda limited as teamplay game more then rush lone wolf like COD..
@pguerrero1770
@pguerrero1770 13 күн бұрын
Get it Jack! You a beast at BV5, its the TTK
@Stalyn40
@Stalyn40 13 күн бұрын
Great vid, I think they should remaster BF 2142 using a modern graphics engine .
@HeyManNiceShotx
@HeyManNiceShotx 12 күн бұрын
Battlefield 5 really turned it around. Watching Jack play, it reminds me of how fun it was. The gunplay was so tight, maybe the best in the series.
@jacobconnell7191
@jacobconnell7191 10 күн бұрын
5:38 this is exactly why I love the fortification system in this game. Jack wants to quickly cross the street and get to safety, but the barbed wire is up which gives a sniper time to shoot at him. Now there’s a new problem to solve
@biosdilt1399
@biosdilt1399 13 күн бұрын
The Finals is super promising, sadly I don't think it would be able to handle servers with 32 players for now, but I definitely think that it will be successful as the base the game is built on is super strong.
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