Jackson Coosa FD vs Native Slayer Propel Overviews - Pedal Drive Fishing Kayaks

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Kayak Hacks Fishing

Kayak Hacks Fishing

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@KayakhacksFishing
@KayakhacksFishing 6 жыл бұрын
More kayak reviews at: kzbin.info/aero/PL8egn41J7Go8Az2TP08DhoESCsAmdACVE
@MrDoItAll91
@MrDoItAll91 2 жыл бұрын
I love the Jackson Coosa FD, perfect setup. I know this video’s a few years old but I think I’ll be going with a Jackson Coosa as my 2022 Tournament Setup
@KayakhacksFishing
@KayakhacksFishing 2 жыл бұрын
I have had the FD since 2018 and still love it. It is perfect for my shallow water environment.
@jasonhanson22
@jasonhanson22 6 жыл бұрын
Just based on this video alone, I like the features of the Jackson. Would love to see how these compare to a Hobie. Great video.
@KayakhacksFishing
@KayakhacksFishing 6 жыл бұрын
My friend Alieux is going to do a video with me that adds the Hobie and Predator to the mix.
@fredfable5655
@fredfable5655 6 жыл бұрын
I agree with jason compare with a Hobie...
@flybywire1022
@flybywire1022 6 жыл бұрын
My vote is for the Jackson. More versatile drive system that has the detent...which anyone fishing the salt flats knows it’s not if but when you hit something with the drive. But I also like the fact that it comes with a few more extras. Not to mention the extra width adds just a little more stability when standing. And lastly the ability to tighten the rear bungie anchors without tools is a plus.
@KayakhacksFishing
@KayakhacksFishing 6 жыл бұрын
That is my perspective as well although I am keeping an open mind as I go through the process of making this investment.
@MudDuckFishing
@MudDuckFishing 6 жыл бұрын
I have the Coosa FD and couldn't be happier. It really shines in the marsh and shallow water but also moves is pretty quick with the medium setting. I'm going to test the aggressive faster setting at some point.
@KayakhacksFishing
@KayakhacksFishing 6 жыл бұрын
I would love to hear your perspective on the fast setting. I am looking forward to doing a test drive on the Coosa.
@SOFishing
@SOFishing 6 жыл бұрын
Great video and a lot of good info. But for the money you can get the Hobie Outback for about the same price as the Native. Before you make your decision check out the Hobie kayaks they are awesome and like someone else said you can flutter the peddles so you can go in really shallow water or push 1 peddle forward and the fins below the yak comes up and lays flat against the bottom of your yak so then you can paddle through very shallow water if you would like. You can stand up in the Outback but the PA is better for standing.
@KayakhacksFishing
@KayakhacksFishing 6 жыл бұрын
got many recommendations on the Hobie! Thanks for the vote! I'll keep track of the recommendations... this will be a tough decision!
@Edge1775
@Edge1775 6 жыл бұрын
I just did this today and went back and forth for a few hours and decided Jackson and I couldn't be happier. you can actually beach the Jackson and not have to pull the drive at all. the wider width gives it better stability as well
@KayakhacksFishing
@KayakhacksFishing 6 жыл бұрын
I really like it so far. I think it was the best choice for me.
@larrysharp4333
@larrysharp4333 6 жыл бұрын
I have only fished a Jackson kayak and have had a very good experience with my paddle Cuda 14. It is not easy to stand in at 33” and leaves me trying to sit every time I stand. So width seems to matter for standability. My friend has a native 10 to cut down on weight and has to take out the drive for everything. Carrying is awefully heavy. Good luck with a 13’. Best of luck on your correct decision for you.
@KayakhacksFishing
@KayakhacksFishing 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the vote! I'll keep track of the recommendations... this will be a tough decision!
@jlcashen
@jlcashen 6 жыл бұрын
I've been a Jackson fan ever since I got into kayak fishing. They get my vote.
@KayakhacksFishing
@KayakhacksFishing 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the vote! I'll keep track of the recommendations... this will be a tough decision!
@stevekistler8970
@stevekistler8970 6 жыл бұрын
I don't think you can go wrong either way, but the Jackson is the one I would get. The drive system is the reason. It keeps all the drive parts above the waterline and has the detent position that allows it to run in 6 inches of water. Both of those are important on the salt water flats.
@KayakhacksFishing
@KayakhacksFishing 6 жыл бұрын
That 6 inches is compelling. I do most of my fishing in tidal water that gets really shallow.
@dalesmith336
@dalesmith336 6 жыл бұрын
That’s a really hard choice with either one of those. Because of price and weight, I went with the perception pilot. Saw that in the background in video. Good luck, you will love pedal drive.
@KayakhacksFishing
@KayakhacksFishing 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the vote! I'll keep track of the recommendations... this will be a tough decision!
@davidmagnuson1428
@davidmagnuson1428 6 жыл бұрын
Steve, you have to try both before you decide, that being said I tried both this spring (the FD was one of the prototypes). My size was the deciding factor in finally ordering my Old Town Predator PDL (6'5" 290lb.). I loved everything about the FD except that my size 14 feet would have heel slap on the kayak deck every time I pedaled using the balls of my feet on the pedals. The FD is a definite game changer in shallow water (flats - hint, hint :). Good luck, I know you'll love whichever one you buy.
@KayakhacksFishing
@KayakhacksFishing 6 жыл бұрын
You make a great point about sizing the kayak to match the angler. I am looking at other options along with these two.
@fredfable5655
@fredfable5655 6 жыл бұрын
They are "Both" beautiful... But I recommend you (or everybody) to check and compare the pedal system against the hobie drive system. Because for old people (or not so young people) pedal system in sit position is not as good as it looks (Back pain). Is NOT like riding a bicycle (body reacts different) ...and the native system is bulky while fishing. Check how your body mechanics respond to both systems (pedals Vs Hobie Drive) before making a decision. Happy 2018!! Fred.
@fredfable5655
@fredfable5655 6 жыл бұрын
And...If you fish in very shallow water with grass the propellers become uselesss...By the way...how you remove the vegetation from this jackson propeller? In my opinion you should try the hobie system also...is better in shallow and grassy waters...but mainly is all about how your body mechanics react to pedal Vs Push legs... I wish you the best choice....is not that easy. LOL.. consider the opinion of same age and phisical aptitude people, youngsters have no problems at all....they need to waste energy, but we don't!! LOL...
@KayakhacksFishing
@KayakhacksFishing 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the thoughtful advice. I'll check the hobie.
@erock4950
@erock4950 6 жыл бұрын
Out of these 2 I like the Jackson. I like the versatility of the prop levels on the Jackson especially in those shallow water drum spots! I like not having peddle systems when drum fishing but get it if you want to get in the big water and troll for kings or other deeper water expeditions I can see the advantages. Will be looking forward to watching how you mod out whatever you pick! Good luck in your decision! Keep the vids coming!
@KayakhacksFishing
@KayakhacksFishing 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks! This is a hard decision and I will look at some of the other options being recommended. That retractable prop is a really nice feature.
@Dasato123
@Dasato123 6 жыл бұрын
You should look at the Slayer LT as well. Its 40 lbs. lighter and cheaper than the Coosa. From the kayak review vids I have watched, how easy the yak is to transport and get from your vehicle to the water is as important as it's performance on the water. Also ask yourself how do they compare to your current kayak in various ways. Will the new kayak you choose solve the old ones shortcomings? Will it create new problems?
@KayakhacksFishing
@KayakhacksFishing 6 жыл бұрын
Very good points! I need to make a list of the pros/cons!
@OrangeCountySUPFISHING
@OrangeCountySUPFISHING 6 жыл бұрын
Steve you need a video with you doing a demo on the boats. Also you will be doing a great injustice to yourself if you don't put the wilderness system Radar 115 and 135 into your consideration. The flex pod is a game changer! and 45 years from now when you start to finally feel old you can pop in the motorized helix drive to propel the boat for you!
@KayakhacksFishing
@KayakhacksFishing 6 жыл бұрын
I need to look at the 135 - thanks!
@sorinvarzaru7430
@sorinvarzaru7430 6 жыл бұрын
I have the Slayer 10. The rudder on slayer is terrible, so I would budget $250 for an upgrade to the Berkeley one. When you run aground, taking the propeller out of the water is more difficult then it looks, because you have to align the prop with the hole, and that prop really turns fast when you move the pedal. If you catch the fishing line with the prop, it's a massive PITA to get it untangled, especially if you use braided line. After having the yak for 2 years, I would at least try a hobie on the water to see if I like their propulsion system better. But I do love the ease of reversing (without pulling any levers).
@KayakhacksFishing
@KayakhacksFishing 6 жыл бұрын
I'll try the hobie!
@johnstrand2247
@johnstrand2247 6 жыл бұрын
Agree wholeheartedly. The rudder system is the Achilles Heel on the Native. I have the Slayer 10 and the Titan and they put the same flimsy cable system in the heavy Titan and in rough water, the cable snaps in a few hours. Ridiculous! Both kayaks cut the cable at the set screw in the handle, same place every time. Does the Berkley use a whole different cable system?
@adamfink8990
@adamfink8990 6 жыл бұрын
Just got a compass from Great Outdoor works awesome. Took it out to Masonboro jetty a few weeks ago. Way better than paddling.
@KayakhacksFishing
@KayakhacksFishing 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the vote! I'll keep track of the recommendations... this will be a tough decision!
@sadday101
@sadday101 6 жыл бұрын
I like the operation of the Hobie drive as opposed to the bicycle style of the other kayaks. Additionally, the Hobie system can be “flutter” pedaled in much shallower water.
@KayakhacksFishing
@KayakhacksFishing 6 жыл бұрын
I'll add a vote for the Hobie! I need to check them out as well.
@FishOnKayakAnglers
@FishOnKayakAnglers 6 жыл бұрын
As a owner of the both the Jackson Cuda 14 and Jackson Big Tuna I would strongly recommend Jackson Kayaks to anyone. Nothing against Native at all just a personal preference. Great customer service, great kayaks that are pretty much ready to go out and fish with all the accessories they come with.
@KayakhacksFishing
@KayakhacksFishing 6 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate the advice coming from a current user of their products! Thanks
@MrJimmyAbbott
@MrJimmyAbbott 6 жыл бұрын
I would choose the Jackson for the adjustable peddle drive system plus all the other extras it comes with.
@KayakhacksFishing
@KayakhacksFishing 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the vote! I'll keep track of the recommendations... this will be a tough decision!
@genelamb4427
@genelamb4427 6 жыл бұрын
Between the 2 I would definitely recommend the Jackson. You might want to checkout the Hobie Compass. Fast, light, and cheaper.
@KayakhacksFishing
@KayakhacksFishing 6 жыл бұрын
I will. A lot of people are recommending it
@noviceflyfisher6287
@noviceflyfisher6287 6 жыл бұрын
Check out the Native Slayer Propel LT. It only comes in at 60 lbs bare bone, light enough to car top solo. If you're interested in a kayak that is light, pedal driven and easy to transport, this is the ticket. I'm done with hauling heavy yaks around.
@mulletman2m
@mulletman2m 6 жыл бұрын
I own a slayer propel 13 and it is a good fishing yak, but has a terrible turn radius. I even put a boondox rudder on. If you fish you really will love the propeller yaks over the Hobie just for the reverse factor. Hobies are nice but river fishing in slow current and wind you need instant reverse or you have to constantly anchor. My advice would be to test drive them. Also from what i have seen on YT the NativeTitan seems kinda nice. Last thing is whatever you get put a boonedox landing gear on it and get a trailer ( it makes loading and unloading so much easier. Good luck.
@KayakhacksFishing
@KayakhacksFishing 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for those candid comments. If I get the slayer, I will invest in the rudder as well. Your point on the Hobie is one of the things that concerns me about them as well. Boonedox wheels are on the list!
@NCKFA
@NCKFA 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent job by all. Education by Chris, Humor by host and best looking by Fin.
@KayakhacksFishing
@KayakhacksFishing 6 жыл бұрын
I never knew NCKFA had a channel! I attend the meetings here in Wilmington. I added the channel to my sub list.
@msybthrm
@msybthrm 6 жыл бұрын
Tough decision indeed! Both are sweet but I would go with the Native as it appears simpler to use and as a bonus it’s slightly easier on the all important budget.
@KayakhacksFishing
@KayakhacksFishing 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the vote! I'll keep track of the recommendations... this will be a tough decision!
@markyaldua1202
@markyaldua1202 6 жыл бұрын
As far as the speed difference goes for the FD, your host forgot to mention that the pitch can be adjusted which will give you more speed but you also have to put in more effort. I'd go with the Coosa FD.
@KayakhacksFishing
@KayakhacksFishing 6 жыл бұрын
I wish I could test drive the higher pitch to see what the difference in effort or speed is. I'll have to make the decision based on the shipped pitch/speed.
@markyaldua1202
@markyaldua1202 6 жыл бұрын
Kayak Hacks Fishing the Coosa and Cruise FD's are shipped with the medium pitch set. You will have to change it yourself to the aggressive pitch but I can tell you, there is a difference in speeds. Good luck with your purchase.
@KayakhacksFishing
@KayakhacksFishing 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Tough decision
@DLoh2o1
@DLoh2o1 6 жыл бұрын
When will you be making the decision? I'm looking at both as well as the Hobie Outback and Wilderness Radar 135
@KayakhacksFishing
@KayakhacksFishing 6 жыл бұрын
Probably in the next month. I am taking my time since I can't fish again until March.
@fishermann2776
@fishermann2776 6 жыл бұрын
Definitely the Coosa. From everything I've seen the drive is superior and all the mechanical parts are above the water line. Very stable kayak.
@KayakhacksFishing
@KayakhacksFishing 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the vote! I'll keep track of the recommendations... this will be a tough decision!
@justinthompson7969
@justinthompson7969 6 жыл бұрын
I have a slayer and love it. Plus it has two built in cupholders.
@justinthompson7969
@justinthompson7969 6 жыл бұрын
But for $3000 I would go with a Hobie
@KayakhacksFishing
@KayakhacksFishing 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the vote! You guys are making this hard for me!
@mike333h
@mike333h 6 жыл бұрын
I have had the Slayer Propel 13 for about tow years and I love it. I got my wife the Hobie Outback w/reverse and I still would much rather have the slayer. That Coosa is very nice but I have not tried one. My Slayer held up very nicely down at Hammocks Beach with a strong incoming tide and a harsh cross wind. Both are very nice fishing platforms but the weight of the Coosa is a slight down fall. Those 20something pounds don’t seem like much on paper but in real life you have to think about how to carry it and how awkward it will be wherever you grab it. I have the Boondox landing gear for mine and it is a God send. But from the video I saw of your’s yesterday on positioning the anchor cleat didn’t you already make up your mind? lol. Either way you go will be great. Looking fwd to future videos.
@KayakhacksFishing
@KayakhacksFishing 6 жыл бұрын
Good point on the weight. I am concerned about that and need to investigate the boonedox as an option. The cleat video was done in my old Native Ultimate. I sold it last week, so have to get a new boat!
@barneyewing2664
@barneyewing2664 6 жыл бұрын
For standing & fly casting, the Jackson deck looks a little cleaner. For what it's worth, I'd paddle (or pedal) both before I made a final decision. The cost is what keeps me in my 10+ year old Tarpon 120.
@KayakhacksFishing
@KayakhacksFishing 6 жыл бұрын
Good point on the fly fishing
@paprman
@paprman 6 жыл бұрын
Go with the Jackson. I owned a Native 12 propel with the same drive for 3 years. I found it a pain to raise and clean when there were weeds on the prop. I've owned an Old Town Predator PDL for a year and I'm happy with it. I do like the Jackson propel system. It's the best available I believe. For that reason, I would go with the Jackson if I was replacing my Predator PDL.
@KayakhacksFishing
@KayakhacksFishing 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the insight from somebody own has a propel!
@williamcaldwell748
@williamcaldwell748 6 жыл бұрын
Jackson is the one I would prefer due to the better drive system and better off the line. You pick what you think is best for you. Anyways great Yak comparison video 👍 and Tight Lines 🎣
@KayakhacksFishing
@KayakhacksFishing 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the vote! I'll keep track of the recommendations... this will be a tough decision!
@williamcaldwell748
@williamcaldwell748 6 жыл бұрын
Kayak Hacks Fishing Your very correct on the decision because they are both great Yak's. Thanks for the reply and good luck with your pick and I'll be watching to see what you come up with and future videos of you in it. Happy New Year also.
@critStock
@critStock 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great video. I learned a lot. I don't have much experience or expertise to add to this conversation. But knowing myself, I would personally go for the Jackson, since I am sure I would destroy the drive on the Native by forgetting to raise it before hitting the beach, probably the second time out. I'm the guy they had in mind when they coined the term "foolproof." This innovation by Jackson could be what finally pushes me over the line to buy a pedal-drive model.
@KayakhacksFishing
@KayakhacksFishing 6 жыл бұрын
lol! Foolproof. I think that's me as well!
@ethanspruiell2722
@ethanspruiell2722 6 жыл бұрын
Another great video Steve And I'm digging the feature length film as we'll
@KayakhacksFishing
@KayakhacksFishing 6 жыл бұрын
I could not find a way to shorten the comparison. I will do two videos from this ... one on each... for those that are only interested in one model
@jeffjackson5331
@jeffjackson5331 6 жыл бұрын
I like the Jackson personally. I don’t own one but i would love to buy a Jackson BigRig some day. I like the Jackson pedal drive system due it size, ease of pedal removal and the prop protection system. Seems like you get more band for your buck than you do with the Native. Thats my opinion.
@fredfable5655
@fredfable5655 6 жыл бұрын
That is because your name is Jackson...LOL. I really don't know if sea grass can be removed easily from that tiny hole in the jackson, you must put your hand underwater pull a bunch of seaweed you can't see (because the uncomfortable position) I feel is not suitable for everybody's needs. It must be tested on the field first.
@jeffjackson5331
@jeffjackson5331 6 жыл бұрын
Fred Fable actually thats strictly coincidental with names. I personally could careless what the name is on the side of the yak. As stated before, its all about the features and functionality. I don’t fish any were that has that heavy of under water vegetation so i would need to worry about the prop getting gummed up. Bottom line is that its personal preference.
@fredfable5655
@fredfable5655 6 жыл бұрын
Oh is a lovely kayak, Indeed. However I don't see any advantage in this propeller system design. Any line you run over with the propeller,(and that happens often) will put you out, in the middle of nowhere, I don't see a reallistic solution, ...probably you will need to get ashore disassemble the kayak, remove the propeller in order to clean the nylon mess and keep going. Some places are crowded with loose lines, be aware; Don't forget your paddles they will be essentials in order to come back... Besides that I think is a beautifull kayak. Fred.
@jeffjackson5331
@jeffjackson5331 6 жыл бұрын
Fred Fable i will stick with my cheap sit in yak and paddle power because i can’t afford a Jackson any how lol.
@fredfable5655
@fredfable5655 6 жыл бұрын
Paddle power!!! Beer Fuel!!! LOL.
@T-Hull
@T-Hull 5 жыл бұрын
Where would be the best place to store a small cooler with drinks and sandwiches if I have a large insulated fish bag and basket with my fishing bait boxes in the storage area behind the seat?
@KayakhacksFishing
@KayakhacksFishing 5 жыл бұрын
If you have one of those coolers that is crushable or just use a dollar store insulated bag, it could fit in the front hatch.
@wilmartin4686
@wilmartin4686 6 жыл бұрын
I would go with the coosa Great vid. Thanks. Good luck with whichever one you choose.
@KayakhacksFishing
@KayakhacksFishing 6 жыл бұрын
It is a tough decision
@reyesrolando1964
@reyesrolando1964 4 жыл бұрын
How do you like that Jackson Coosa FD thinking about buying one but I fish really shallow
@KayakhacksFishing
@KayakhacksFishing 4 жыл бұрын
See my reply to your other comment. Here is the link to the Coosa playlist I created. I would buy it again. kzbin.info/aero/PL8egn41J7Go9Ee6CXo4q1-C6Lpps0TI8z
@hmholland71
@hmholland71 6 жыл бұрын
Slayer is where it's at! Great comparison video
@KayakhacksFishing
@KayakhacksFishing 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the vote! I'll keep track of the recommendations... this will be a tough decision!
@ronkilpatrick5106
@ronkilpatrick5106 6 жыл бұрын
First, I would turn the peddles and see how much noise they make. But I do think the Jackson is the better. But if I was getting a new one...Old Town PDL would be the way I go.
@KayakhacksFishing
@KayakhacksFishing 6 жыл бұрын
Got it! I'll look at that one as well! Thanks for the vote! I'll keep track of the recommendations... this will be a tough decision!
@rodneyhanbaum697
@rodneyhanbaum697 6 жыл бұрын
Does the native Slayer have a paddle park like the Jackson? Those things are handier than a pocket on a shirt!! What about stability? I'm leaning towards the Jackson, do to width and ease of standing, I really don't think the Xtra foot is going to make that much difference..Those would be my criteria for purchase, stability while standing/ and ease of standing., Along with the paddle park..man those things are handy!!!..I don't think you could go wrong with either!!! Scratch ur head, pull ur wallet out and go for it!!!! Good luck! Can't wait to see which you choose!!!
@KayakhacksFishing
@KayakhacksFishing 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the vote! I'll keep track of the recommendations... this will be a tough decision!
@mccray44
@mccray44 6 жыл бұрын
Based on this great video I would go with the Cosa. I love my Hobie Outback though, I don't have the reverse drive but sometimes I wish I did.
@KayakhacksFishing
@KayakhacksFishing 6 жыл бұрын
I'll put your vote down for the Hobie. I need to look at them closely.
@brianmccabe1302
@brianmccabe1302 6 жыл бұрын
The FD has a lot more bells and whistles and overall a better design but I fear when you get your fishing line, stringer or anchor rope tangled in it it might be harder if not impossible to get out while you are on the water. The nice thing about the native is you can rotate it all the way out and untangle it.
@KayakhacksFishing
@KayakhacksFishing 6 жыл бұрын
That is true... thanks for making that point.
@redroofretriever
@redroofretriever 6 жыл бұрын
Either of these would be a great item for your next "Giveaway". Thanks for being soooo generous to your fans Steve. ( :
@Lloydmurph
@Lloydmurph 6 жыл бұрын
I was wondering which kayak you settled on.
@KayakhacksFishing
@KayakhacksFishing 6 жыл бұрын
I have not made a decision yet - I am still collecting opinions and information.
@ZombieDancer
@ZombieDancer 6 жыл бұрын
Great video! I like the Jackson and the adjustable prop
@KayakhacksFishing
@KayakhacksFishing 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the vote! I'll keep track of the recommendations... this will be a tough decision!
@insaf_
@insaf_ 6 жыл бұрын
I'd go with an fd. Love the features and the drive is much more versatile.
@KayakhacksFishing
@KayakhacksFishing 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the vote! I'll keep track of the recommendations... this will be a tough decision!
@insaf_
@insaf_ 6 жыл бұрын
Kayak Hacks Fishing great stuff as always, hope you get the right one. Have you ever come across the jackson big tuna? It's a paddle tandem, looks like a ton of fun also.
@KayakhacksFishing
@KayakhacksFishing 6 жыл бұрын
I saw that one, but think it is just too big. I like the fact it has two seats like my Native Ultimate, but I think I need a pedal drive to extend my range.
@k9kayaks
@k9kayaks 6 жыл бұрын
Great reviews I wish Chris already had Kayak Reviews on his Store You Tube Channel
@KayakhacksFishing
@KayakhacksFishing 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Appreciate it!
@darkomen42
@darkomen42 6 жыл бұрын
I was in there last week picking Chris's brain, and was looking forward to the cook off tonight but the weather screwed that up. The prices just get me, I can't swing that. I'm going to buy a new yak this spring, I'm looking at paddle not pedal though. After looking around pretty extensively I can't find a paddle boat that's got a better value that the Vibe Sea Ghost, the 13 gets the weight limit up where I need it and gives good balance for standing. Chris was concerned it was a Chinese boat but it turns out they're manufactured in Australia and the design people are in Kennesaw GA. Do you know of any other good options around $900?
@fredfable5655
@fredfable5655 6 жыл бұрын
I totally agree with you, is the most verstile kayak (paddle not pedal) on the market, by far. Best price/performance.
@KayakhacksFishing
@KayakhacksFishing 6 жыл бұрын
Did you consider a used kayak? My Native was used from Chris and it was pretty inexpensive.
@brianmowers307
@brianmowers307 6 жыл бұрын
Great comparison! Just don't let your buddy Adventure Steve know you're looking at something other that a Hobie...he might pull your card again. I like both boats, but I found a deal on a demo Perception Pilot that I couldn't pass up. Whichever way you go, I'm sure you'll be happy!
@myadventureoutdoors
@myadventureoutdoors 6 жыл бұрын
I've already had a man to man? (hmmmmm) talk with hime before I even got 6 minutes into the video. This may require a face-to-face meeting Brian to set him straight.
@KayakhacksFishing
@KayakhacksFishing 6 жыл бұрын
Yep... I was stood at attention and sent to my room....
@mckmh07167
@mckmh07167 6 жыл бұрын
I would go with the Jackson. But you can by them both and I’ll use one!! Good luck, I can’t wait to get a pedal kayak. Great video I am going to head down to Wilmington very soon, I’m just up in Fayetteville.
@KayakhacksFishing
@KayakhacksFishing 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the vote! I'll keep track of the recommendations... this will be a tough decision!
@mckmh07167
@mckmh07167 6 жыл бұрын
Kayak Hacks Fishing the only thin I don’t like about the Jackson is it only has two scuppers, other than that either way you go I am sure you will be happy. Good luck!
@parksmuscletruckgarage1073
@parksmuscletruckgarage1073 6 жыл бұрын
If I were you I would get the Jackson yak because it looks more comfortable!!
@KayakhacksFishing
@KayakhacksFishing 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the vote! I'll keep track of the recommendations... this will be a tough decision!
@sundawg5251
@sundawg5251 6 жыл бұрын
I can’t believe you’re not considering a Hobie PA 12 or PA 14. Any reason?
@KayakhacksFishing
@KayakhacksFishing 6 жыл бұрын
I will look at them, but feel that too much of the cost is the brand name.
@sundawg5251
@sundawg5251 6 жыл бұрын
Kayak Hacks Fishing they have a completely different propel system. Worth a compare.
@universshitter
@universshitter 6 жыл бұрын
Hobie is for milk cows lol
@RKClements
@RKClements 6 жыл бұрын
The drive system on the Jackson looks a lot more versatile! Plus they are made in Sparta, Tennessee (my state ;) ) Probably going to stick with my 2015 Ascend FS12T. Unless, of course, your planning another giveaway! Great video!
@KayakhacksFishing
@KayakhacksFishing 6 жыл бұрын
I really am taking a close look at the depth of the drive for shallow water. I know hobies can work in around 8 inches or so, but I do not want to pay for the name.
@bcp5296d
@bcp5296d 2 жыл бұрын
What accounts for 20 pounds more weight on the coosa fd w/o drive vs hd?
@KayakhacksFishing
@KayakhacksFishing 2 жыл бұрын
The HD is not as wide and not as long. I bet that is most of it.
@kayakengineer
@kayakengineer 6 жыл бұрын
I would go with the Native. Here's why: 1) weighs less (2) longer and narrower (better in windy conditions) (3) bigger tank well (4) you probably don't need more rod holders, do you? Why pay for them? (5) Cheaper! This all coming from a guy who loves Jackson, go figure. Try the Jackson Cruise FD (only about $2000 and comes with same FD system as the Coosa). The new Hobie Compass is also only about $2000 and has great reviews. I typically buy the kayak that is easier to carry and travel with. I'm getting old also. Good Luck.
@fredfable5655
@fredfable5655 6 жыл бұрын
Ok, if you are getting old like me...consider "not to pedal like a bicycle" from the seat position, rather test the pull-push action from the hobie drive system. Is a tottaly different thing. You may pay a little extra but you save a lot in pain relievers medicine. However both kayaks are beautiful. Greetings. Fred.
@KayakhacksFishing
@KayakhacksFishing 6 жыл бұрын
Great points! Thanks for making the decision hard!! lol
@universshitter
@universshitter 6 жыл бұрын
Compass hasn't reverse . Who would buy a car w/o reverse now a day ?? same for yak pedal . Hobie should have up the price 200 more and add the mirage 180 . The cruise FD weightless would be a good choice .
@KayakhacksFishing
@KayakhacksFishing 6 жыл бұрын
Even with the implementation of the reverse with the cable, I think that will push me to the Coosa
@jcook8191
@jcook8191 6 жыл бұрын
Check out old town PDL also!
@KayakhacksFishing
@KayakhacksFishing 6 жыл бұрын
Will do
@larrywilliams1756
@larrywilliams1756 6 жыл бұрын
I would get the Jackson . I’ve got a hobie pa14 it a heavy yak but I love it . But if I was going to get another I would get the Jackson
@larrywilliams1756
@larrywilliams1756 6 жыл бұрын
And I like how u can go in shallow water with drive on the Jackson
@KayakhacksFishing
@KayakhacksFishing 6 жыл бұрын
That is pretty compelling to me. The ability to move into shallow... and even drag the boat if needed... without removing the drive.
@larrywilliams1756
@larrywilliams1756 6 жыл бұрын
Kayak Hacks Fishing one thing I love about the hobie mirage dive is that the fins tuck up under the boat in shallow water .
@KayakhacksFishing
@KayakhacksFishing 6 жыл бұрын
Good point!
@code1outdoors311
@code1outdoors311 6 жыл бұрын
Go with the Native! Jackson is nice but not enough scupper plugs.
@KayakhacksFishing
@KayakhacksFishing 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the vote! I'll keep track of the recommendations... this will be a tough decision!
@MudDuckFishing
@MudDuckFishing 6 жыл бұрын
Code 1 Outdoors it has 6 scuppers on deck. And also the hatches are way better on the Coosa, no water gets in like in the Native. I spray mine down and soak it and not one drop of water in the hull. Also I do saltwater fishing so I get the waves that splash onto the hatch and I haven’t seen a drop of water yet inside. The cheap bungee on the Native imo is not enough force to keep water out.
@redroofretriever
@redroofretriever 6 жыл бұрын
Jackson, by far, but I am a bit biased to them.
@KayakhacksFishing
@KayakhacksFishing 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the vote! I'll keep track of the recommendations... this will be a tough decision!
@kayakfishing360uk7
@kayakfishing360uk7 6 жыл бұрын
Great vid. Can't wait for giveaway!
@KayakhacksFishing
@KayakhacksFishing 6 жыл бұрын
lol!
@CMonsta
@CMonsta 6 жыл бұрын
I’m a Jackson guy. But I don’t see how you could go wrong either way
@KayakhacksFishing
@KayakhacksFishing 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the vote! I'll keep track of the recommendations... this will be a tough decision!
@soflokayaker688
@soflokayaker688 6 жыл бұрын
One question why is he wearing a pfd in the shop?
@KayakhacksFishing
@KayakhacksFishing 6 жыл бұрын
Just for fun. Chris ha a great sense of humor
@dalaohu2010
@dalaohu2010 6 жыл бұрын
what about jackson cruiser fd 12'?
@KayakhacksFishing
@KayakhacksFishing 6 жыл бұрын
I wanted the wider platform for more stability. The cruise is less expensive and it was in my initial mix for consideration.
@floydaltonmiller
@floydaltonmiller 6 жыл бұрын
Just watching the video I think that the Cooda is the better choice.
@KayakhacksFishing
@KayakhacksFishing 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the vote! I'll keep track of the recommendations... this will be a tough decision!
@jbbrosfishing7084
@jbbrosfishing7084 6 жыл бұрын
Get the Jackson
@KayakhacksFishing
@KayakhacksFishing 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the vote! I'll keep track of the recommendations... this will be a tough decision!
@williamcarroll8179
@williamcarroll8179 6 жыл бұрын
I hope your next video is that your giving one of these kayak away to a luck viewer!
@KayakhacksFishing
@KayakhacksFishing 6 жыл бұрын
lol
@ncfishboy
@ncfishboy 6 жыл бұрын
Why only one?
@KayakhacksFishing
@KayakhacksFishing 6 жыл бұрын
lol! I do not want to get the hairy eyeball look from my wife!!
@BigCountry12486
@BigCountry12486 5 жыл бұрын
Haven't seen any footage of you actually testing either of them on the water. Never go based off what someone tells you is better. Get a real feel for them on your own instead of just looking at them in a store!
@KayakhacksFishing
@KayakhacksFishing 5 жыл бұрын
I agree. No footage shot during the test, but plenty later of the Coosa I bought. I have a season end video on it where I discuss the 19 positives and 11 negatives folks should be aware of.
@clintonhesson1918
@clintonhesson1918 6 жыл бұрын
I would go with the Jackson, problem is your going to have to come up with about 3000 dollar store hacks in 2018 to afford it.
@KayakhacksFishing
@KayakhacksFishing 6 жыл бұрын
lol!
@jazztoad54
@jazztoad54 6 жыл бұрын
Get a Hobie !
@fredfable5655
@fredfable5655 6 жыл бұрын
Steave...30:13 I don' laugh so much since the "Benny Hill Show" !!!! you made history....LOL.
@KayakhacksFishing
@KayakhacksFishing 6 жыл бұрын
Glad you picked up on the attempt at humor!
@fredfable5655
@fredfable5655 6 жыл бұрын
Man, I'm coming back twice a day to go to 30:13 as a therapy... This is sooo Hilarious!!! Is your best gag of all times!!
@KayakhacksFishing
@KayakhacksFishing 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@Fgalvezpool
@Fgalvezpool 6 жыл бұрын
Native, far more experience with propel drive, those drives are tough
@KayakhacksFishing
@KayakhacksFishing 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the vote! I'll keep track of the recommendations... this will be a tough decision!
@michaelgonzalez8863
@michaelgonzalez8863 6 жыл бұрын
Native is lighter so I say native. But you should test on water before you spend that much
@KayakhacksFishing
@KayakhacksFishing 6 жыл бұрын
Yes!
@rayg3074
@rayg3074 6 жыл бұрын
a hobie is lighter mirage sport at 61 pds... unfitted..
@xOPER8Rx
@xOPER8Rx 6 жыл бұрын
Go with..... neither! I would go with the big daddy- the Native Titan. That boat is so big you can catch blue whales. And it can time travel!
@KayakhacksFishing
@KayakhacksFishing 6 жыл бұрын
Way to big!! lol
@claya85
@claya85 6 жыл бұрын
Get the Coosa FD.....You won't be sorry.
@KayakhacksFishing
@KayakhacksFishing 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the vote! I'll keep track of the recommendations... this will be a tough decision!
@sadday101
@sadday101 6 жыл бұрын
I, too, looked at both theses kayaks, as well as the Hobie Outback. Hobie’s drive system is much better than either of these. Sometimes you do get what you pay for!! At least look at the Hobie.
@doncook3690
@doncook3690 6 жыл бұрын
Sad Day why do you believe the hobie drive is better? I can’t see it being better with auto reverse while hooking that big one and pull it up into the cavity of the boat. My biggest reasons to prefer the Jackson
@KayakhacksFishing
@KayakhacksFishing 6 жыл бұрын
I will!
@fredfable5655
@fredfable5655 6 жыл бұрын
Well, is a total different perspective on Pedaling on a seat Vs Pushing forward your leg. Believe me...when you are not young your legs respond different, pushing is way easier to me. Second, fishing flats with grass...the hobbie drive is absolutely beyond an above. easier removing the little seaweed it could get, or simply moving the kayak along pushing the pedal half way in very shallow waters...the propeller becomes a ball of seaweed, and don't even think what happens when you cross an abandoned fishing line...BIRD NEST!! in the fins of the "H drive" rarely happens. This is only about the basic "mechanics"...
@KayakhacksFishing
@KayakhacksFishing 6 жыл бұрын
Great points!
@rayg3074
@rayg3074 6 жыл бұрын
get a hobie
@KayakhacksFishing
@KayakhacksFishing 6 жыл бұрын
Another good option.
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